NEW - 3Dice Slot Enchanted Spins

[X-Raided]

First off, let me state that I haven't been the biggest fan of the recently released 3Dice slots.
I've been mostly sticking to the games that I know well, like Payola, Industria and Fortune Falls.

I was one of the fortunate testers selected in their chat room to try out their upcoming slot game
called "Enchanted Spins".

Boy, let me tell you.. Wow! 3Dice has definitely stepped their game up literally, and created IMO
an instant classic.

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As you can see from the picture above, there are expanding wizard wilds that you can get in the
center of the reels like Wild Waves. There is also a "pick me" bonus round that will allow the player
to level up to three times with each time giving you a chance for a higher prize. Leveling up happens
when you find a key on the spin wheel. There's an old friend from another 3Dice game who makes a
cameo appearance.

The music is relaxing and calm and the slot is visually super-appealing. Polished. Also, when selecting
turbo mode, this bad boy spins really fast.. Fastest spinning slot on 3Dice from what I can see.

Can't wait to deposit some money and play this when it's fully released. Thank you 3Dice and of
course www.anglegaming.com for your innovative designing.

 

[Jasminebed]

Wow, you have really whetted my appetite.

Enzo has been very evasive about it, even about the theme, and I enjoy these kind of themes and it looks very pretty.

 

[bsilva028]

the slot does not appear me yet

 

[Jasminebed]

the slot does not appear me yet

X Raided was selected as one of the beta testers. They ask a few players to help them work out the bugs before it goes live for the whole casino.

Once a game is ready, there's usually a day or more of testing it in tourney mode before they have for real money play if it's like other game releases.

 

[nisosbar]

Thanks for the info - I made a suggestion that they should do some sort of sticky wild game, kind of like Dead or Alive, given how popular that type of game is on NetEnt.

 

[naththo]

Awesome! Good to see you have step up so far! Keep up with your effort you will get there slowly.

 

[X-Raided]

This slot is up and running at 3Dice. First impressions and screen shots would be nice!

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Still seems to be free money play only to me?

I was a beta-tester for this slot myself, it certainly has a fair lick of potential but I did make a few suggestions to Enzo as to stuff that IMO needed changing and/or tweaking before it went live.

The free play version in my 3Dice client seems to be the same version I tested about ten days ago, still unavailable in tourney or real play mode.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Enzo has uploaded a new version of this game to the 3Dice server, and I've just had a kick around with it in free money mode (the only mode it's available in at the moment).

A fair few changes and improvements have been made, and bonus round behaviour in particular now feels better IMO.

There are still a couple of glitches to iron out (my total win in the bonus round now shows as 'Undefined' with a maximum possible win of 'Nan'), but to me it looks like it's not far off ready for release.

It's shaping up to be an interesting addition to the 3Dice stable, and aesthetically it is a very pretty slot (it looks great and runs at a gorgeously slick 60FPS, unlike for example Girls With Guns which moves like a three-legged ant with a potato strapped to its back) - although I personally still have my doubts about the bonus round structure and its pays, but I'll leave that to the CM collective to make their own minds up on

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Now live at 3Dice in real money mode!

I've decided to chuck a £100 deposit at it, although my experience as a beta-tester tells me this is another high variance new release (and indeed it's been flagged as such in the games list) - as such, 20p spins it is.

 

[aceking123]

Now live at 3Dice in real money mode!

I've decided to chuck a £100 deposit at it, although my experience as a beta-tester tells me this is another high variance new release (and indeed it's been flagged as such in the games list) - as such, 20p spins it is.

just played it for first time around half hour ago hit the feature with four dragons very slick slot nicely done seems like theyve came up trumps with this one )

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I could do without the 'Nice Win' message for 5x stake and 'Very Nice Win' message for 10x stake (and there are more than that, all for under 50x stake as far as I can tell) - admittedly they're not in your face and fairly 'tastefully presented' at the bottom of the game screen, but they trigger far too low down the pays IMO. (This has been added in since the beta-test so is not something I fed back on. As a concept I think it's fine, but 5x stake is not a 'Nice Win' in my book.)

 

[Wild Reels]

so far so good, lots of great wins, and good pays from the feature, spinning at £1, 100 deposited

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Just managed 185x stake off the bonus round (three scatters trigger) but that was when I was within £10 of busting out on a £100 deposit at 20p spins

One aspect of this slot I really like is that it gives you a real-time indication of what your maximum possible win off the bonus is, as well as indicating which picks you want, what your pick history is, what picks are available, and which level of the three you're on.

Three scatters has a potential pay of 1050x stake, but you need to hit Upgrade > Upgrade to realise that pay, miss on the first pick and it drops down to 550x, miss on the second pick and it's basically all over.

Four scatters starts off at over 2000x stake maximum but again quickly drops down as you miss Upgrades, and five scatters allows the 'jackpot' combination of picks which IIRC Enzo told me was around 5000x stake (but again you'll need Upgrade > Upgrade and then the perfect combination of picks in level three).

I'm not sure what the maximum pay in the base game is, but with all three middle reels wild and the best combination of symbols it'll be around 600x stake I think.

One word of warning, this slot can and will go 200-300 spins at a time without a bonus round or hitting a 20x stop trigger, and if you get a three scatters bonus chances are it'll pay 16-40x.

Match your spin size to your bankroll accordingly - this is a high variance slot!

 

[aceking123]

well i did it totaly wrong then choppers i did not look at the pay table, i didnt look at anything at all, other than making my bet to 60p on my small deposit of 24 quid lol , i did make it to level three though) but thats the way i play at 3 dice sometimes small stakes sometimes i just fancy a game & dont bother what stakes within reason, its a fun casino i didnt make many deposits last month due to car breaking down ( wipping out neteller account ) so been wanting to play over the last few days.

didnt play very long but will add screen shot once ive found out how too )

 

[ChopleyIOM]

675x stake. (£135 off a 20p spin.)

Three scatters trigger, picked Upgrade > Upgrade > Cash Value > Cash Value > 5x

Could have been better cash values (as you can see in the screenshot below) but the progression sequence was perfect.

Max possible pay off three scatters is 1050x with the same sequence above but the top paying cash values, but I'll settle for 675x stake

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Bah!

First time I've got all three reels wild, and it blocks one stop on reel 1 with a scatter (dragon), one gets the top paying symbol (elf lady), and one gets a 9.

Nothing matching through to 5OAK, a disappointing 76x stake.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

A fine run (eventually) on this slot for me this evening, after a pretty horrible start!

Commenced with a straight £100 deposit (no bonus), and off I went with 20p spins in turbo mode.

I already had a good idea of how the game rolled from beta-testing it, which is why I chose 20p spins, despite it seeming like a very small stake relative to my bankroll. (As ever with high variance slots, you can go for glory with big spins relative to your bankroll, but the potential for a horribly quick bust out always puts me off such tactics, I want some playtime for my deposits!)

True to potential form it was a tawdry ride to start with, dropped right down to £10 from my £100 start point, with just two wins of around 50x stake as the high points, then it kicked out a 185x stake win which put me back in the game, held steady for a while and then got the 675x stake win screenshotted above.

Hit three 'three wilds' after that (one of which is screenshotted above, one is in the Winners Screenshots thread), but alas none of them were really substantial pays.

I did however end up in a position to withdraw just over £200 from my original £100 deposit, which as a doubling of my bankroll felt like a sensible place to call an end to the session (as much as I was minded to carry on ), so I made the withdrawal request.

Just over one hour later and the money is in my Neteller account (3Dice are routinely faster than 32Red on payouts these days in my experience.)

I'll definitely be returning to this slot in future, along with Arctic Adventure (which I also rather like). Scatterville Skunks however I can't ever see me playing for real money again, Kyoko's Quest maybe do one cycle of the bonus rounds once in a while.

This is most certainly a higher variance slot though, and needs to be treated as such, if you get 'involved' with it be prepared for dead patches of hundreds of spins, and many low paying bonus rounds, in the search of those very big paying rounds that are clearly on the paytable. (I know some folks move onto another slot after 100-200 spins if they don't think it's paying, which is a perfectly rational choice, whereas I will just dig in for thousands of spins......)

I look forward to seeing the screenshot from the person who hits the 'perfect picks' five scatters trigger, which I believe is around 5000x stake......

 

[incrediblestuff]

I look forward to seeing the screenshot from the person who hits the 'perfect picks' five scatters trigger, which I believe is around 5000x stake......

Iirc Enzo told me 3850 x bet was the top bonus

I like the slots theme, music and graphics and (seen the easter-eggs?) have yet to hit a bonus myself but i really dig
it so far. TBH there is not one slot in 3Dice i don't like in terms of creativity, graphs and sound, but this one is an instant favorite since i am such a fool for any fantasy related theme
Also the expanding wilds are adding to the fun factor, i like those a lot.

 

[zap987]

Looks to be 25xbet for 5 scatters then 2x100xbet + 2*75xbet (375 total) on the last week, and then x5 and x2 multipliers for a max win of 3750xbet.

Wouldn't surprise me if all picks on wheels have equal chance with the weighting just being in how many there are on each. If it is, the chance to get the max pay on 3 scatters would be 1/23760 when you hit the bonus unless I'm too tired and messed up the math.

 

[skiny]

Playing in tournament mode for the first time tonight. First try took me from 2500 to 500 and then got the three wilds and a decent bonus round. I went from 500 to about 4900 in about 5 minutes. Then from 4900 to zero about 10 minutes later.

Second try didn't hit any decent bonus rounds or 3 wild combinations so that went from 2500 to nothing pretty quick. My last run of about 300 spins without a bonus round finished me.

I don't really see anything I dislike about the game. I'm more of a free spin kind of guy for bonus rounds but I'll take anything if it pays well. I played it twice and managed to double my balance one of the two times. It's pretty streaky with the runs of dead spins which makes me lean more toward "very high" over just "high" variance but two sessions isn't really enough to decide for sure yet.

My RTP was in the mid 80s on the first session and the mid 70s on the second. That's actually not much different considering I doubled my starting balance on the first session and didn't even exceed it on the second. Another indication this might be slightly more than "high" variance by 3Dice standards.

The game looks great. I like how the animations are kept to a minimum. I don't mind a lot of fancy drawn out animations on a huge win but they take up too much time if they're played out on all the smaller wins. Anyone making slot games should keep in mind that after a few thousand spins the player has seen every animation more times than they'd care to remember. Personally, I'd like to be able to turn them off all together in Star Struck. I don't really like watching the same movie twice. Watching the same 30 second movie clip a few thousand times is slightly worse. The only way around it is to click the screen every time I hit something.

Has it been mentioned yet that the dragon is visiting from Medieval Moolah? I kept watching for the pig to land somewhere but no such luck. When I first saw it I thought they could have made a new dragon but then I thought why not? Walt Disney can move its characters from cartoon to cartoon. Why can't 3Dice move it's characters from slot to slot? Maybe some of those squirrels could show up in Artic Treasure wearing parkas. Or even better, the dinosaur from Fortune Falls could come out of nowhere and just eat that ninja chick so she'd stop throwing crap around when I'm trying to spin Kyoko.

If the variance came down a bit on this new slot I would say it's probably the best new slot to come out lately. Personally, I think it easily beats Scatterville Skunks and Kyoko's Quest. 20 lines is a nice round number too. 25 and 30 lines really shouldn't be necessary but 15 seems a bit low. My RTP seems a bit low but I haven't even had 2000 spins yet. Artic was the same but it eventually came back up before I stopped bothering to check.

All in all it's a nice game but I agree with Chopley. Low roll this game until you get a true feel for the variance. If you're playing more than 1 or 2% of your balance you'll more than likely be broke pretty quick.

 

[bvu2011]

Deposited 40 played for about 5 min (low rolled of course), balance got low switched games, still lost. Deposited 20 again, same results. However, I have deposited a substantial amount within the last 4 months, same results! Not happy, so my post/opinion may be a bit biased!
As far as the new game - great graphics.

AKA bvu2011

 

[nisosbar]

I agree with most of the comments here. Like the graphics, and I like the expanding wilds. It sounds like the wizard is saying, "Turquoise..." when he expands - or maybe that's just my active imagination.

 

[MaryJean]

Not Enchanted

I played $100.00 of "play" money and got one $3.00, one $4.50 and one $8.50, playing $2.00 spins. Added to that I got two dragons a couple of times for my money back, but other than that all was
zero---zero---zero----no bonus spins at all.

I'm glad it was fake money.

MaryJean

 

[ChopleyIOM]

If the variance came down a bit on this new slot I would say it's probably the best new slot to come out lately. Personally, I think it easily beats Scatterville Skunks and Kyoko's Quest. 20 lines is a nice round number too. 25 and 30 lines really shouldn't be necessary but 15 seems a bit low. My RTP seems a bit low but I haven't even had 2000 spins yet. Artic was the same but it eventually came back up before I stopped bothering to check.

All in all it's a nice game but I agree with Chopley. Low roll this game until you get a true feel for the variance. If you're playing more than 1 or 2% of your balance you'll more than likely be broke pretty quick.

Personally I would put this slot into the same variance category as Bruce Lee, by way of comparison if I take on Bruce Lee I'll play it at the minimum stake of one penny per two lines, which gives 30p per spin (it's a 60 line slot), and I'd consider a £100 bankroll pretty much a starter for ten even at those low spins. (Bruce can and will take £100 on 30p spins without kicking out anything significant, and then do it again for another £100.)

Enchanted Spins is the same sort of story IMO, obviously you can go in with spins of 1%2% of your bankroll if you want to take a big risk with the chance of a big reward, but it will take you apart without even coughing a bonus round if the mood takes it, let alone hitting a decent win - Payola this most definitely is not.

It makes a nice partner slot for Arctic Adventure, both of them are about hitting those rarer big pays than more regular small-medium sized pays, although my feeling is that Enchanted Spins is higher variance than Arctic Adventure.

I do think 3Dice need to revisit all their variance categories though, because to my mind Super Suits + (flagged up as 'very high' variance) is a far tamer beast than Enchanted Spins, which only warrants 'high'.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I played $100.00 of "play" money and got one $3.00, one $4.50 and one $8.50, playing $2.00 spins. Added to that I got two dragons a couple of times for my money back, but other than that all was
zero---zero---zero----no bonus spins at all.

I'm glad it was fake money.

MaryJean

Well you were playing a high variance slot with a stake of 2% of your bankroll, which is absolutely the recipe to either hit big quick or bust out spectacularly!

 

[MaryJean]

True

Well you were playing a high variance slot with a stake of 2% of your bankroll, which is absolutely the recipe to either hit big quick or bust out spectacularly!

That is true Chopley, but I wasn't trying for anything except testing the game. It was play money afterall.

Today, I tried it for a real $26.00 at $1.00 per spin. For the first 25 spins I got one at $1.20 one at .10
and 3 at even money(2 dragons), but then two spins later I got $10.00 and the 2 Wizards for $37.40 and a few spins later 2 Wizards for $96.00.

After that the whole game went back to zero until I got down to the next to last dollar and I finally got 3 dragons for a special game. Got to pick three stones for $17.00. Then back to zero.

It was fun while it lasted, but I don't think I will be staking my bankroll on it.

MaryJean

 

[blonde]

Artists did an awesome job with the graphics, audios and such, but as far as payouts and stuff I think I will pass. I am one of the biggest fans of 3dice, but...................... guess I will leave it at that.

 

[skiny]

Personally I would put this slot into the same variance category as Bruce Lee, by way of comparison if I take on Bruce Lee I'll play it at the minimum stake of one penny per two lines, which gives 30p per spin (it's a 60 line slot), and I'd consider a £100 bankroll pretty much a starter for ten even at those low spins. (Bruce can and will take £100 on 30p spins without kicking out anything significant, and then do it again for another £100.)

Enchanted Spins is the same sort of story IMO, obviously you can go in with spins of 1%2% of your bankroll if you want to take a big risk with the chance of a big reward, but it will take you apart without even coughing a bonus round if the mood takes it, let alone hitting a decent win - Payola this most definitely is not.

It makes a nice partner slot for Arctic Adventure, both of them are about hitting those rarer big pays than more regular small-medium sized pays, although my feeling is that Enchanted Spins is higher variance than Arctic Adventure.

I do think 3Dice need to revisit all their variance categories though, because to my mind Super Suits + (flagged up as 'very high' variance) is a far tamer beast than Enchanted Spins, which only warrants 'high'.

When I said 1% I was really thinking about the 20c minimum bet. If you had 20 bucks I wouldn't bet more than the 20c minimum. You start getting into the 2% when you get less than 20 bucks of course.

If you had a better starting balance like say 50 or 100 I think two coins per line might do ok but if your balance drops too quick you might want to drop it back to minimum. It's really hard to tell yet because I've only had about 1500 spins. Sometimes the first few times you play a game it's deceiving and the longer you play it starts getting better or worse. You just don't know until you get there. There are days when even Payola starts behaving like a high variance game but then the next day everything is back to normal.

I still say it's their best recently new game.

 

[BMWSTACK]

I am not sure how people make the determination that it is a bad paying game after its only been released for 1 day. We all know its gambling and the chances of winning are a lot lower than our chances of losing.

I have played it and yes indeed I have not accomplished a large win, but I also understand that I can not come up with any judgments about it being a high paying game or low paying game until I invest a lot more time, and money. Also whenever I do determine that, it may also just be opinion, or sometimes fact.

I do like the concept of the game, I like the expanding wilds, but I am not a fan of the bonus game. Bonus games that require you to pick for credits are not that exciting IMO.

 

[skiny]

I am not sure how people make the determination that it is a bad paying game after its only been released for 1 day. We all know its gambling and the chances of winning are a lot lower than our chances of losing.

I have played it and yes indeed I have not accomplished a large win, but I also understand that I can not come up with any judgments about it being a high paying game or low paying game until I invest a lot more time, and money. Also whenever I do determine that, it may also just be opinion, or sometimes fact.

I do like the concept of the game, I like the expanding wilds, but I am not a fan of the bonus game. Bonus games that require you to pick for credits are not that exciting IMO.

Any game is a high paying game if you hit the top paying prizes. My opinion is on the variance. Not the potential payout. I'm well over 2500 spins and in my opinion it's a pretty high variance game. I've had some nice wins in those 2500 spins. I've almost doubled my starting balance 2 out of 3 times playing in tournament mode with a 2500 dollar start. I haven't seen any 600x wins yet but I have seen 200x.

You never know what you're going to win until you spin no matter what game you play. Any game can break you or hand out a jackpot. You can tell however in one day how high the variance is likely to be unless the last 2000 spins is an oddity. In the last two days I've seen the game repeatedly jack my balance up to about 4 or 5k from under 2k in just a few spins and then hammer it back down to the original 2k or less with a string of dead spins and very low hits.

There's nothing wrong with this. It can do that all day long and still average over 90 or 95% RTP. It does seem like an indication of the variance, though. Medieval Moolah does the same thing. Moolah is not an unfair game and many people prefer it over the lower variance games. It's all a matter of play style and taste.

Complaining if you made a deposit and lost it playing this game after one day is kind of pointless. If you're playing slots much you should probably be used to that happening by now regardless of which game you chose to play. I think the variance of this game is a valid discussion though. I like the fact that 3Dice gives players an indication of the variance before they start to play a game. If you're starting with a low balance or starting with a high balance but want to play a large stake, knowing the variance is helpful when you chose which game to play. It might make the difference of whether or not you're broke 5 minutes later. I strongly disagreed with the "medium" label that Artic Treasure was given when it first came out but that's since been changed to "high." I'm still undecided about the variance of this new game though. I'm not sure if it's any higher than Moolah. I think it might be about the same.

 

[Jasminebed]

Well, I like the new game. I run a pokey computer, and game speed is great. I would like better a reel by reel in normal mode though, to add to the anticipation.

Graphics are great, and I like pick bonuses. I'm not sure but I wouldn't be surprised in what you pick does matter... after all, if they are distributed randomly, they should be able to do the math, no matter what you pick.

Really like that wizards on 2 and 4 expand reel 3 as well, plus it's pretty.

Did OK on it in real, nothing amazing, but I did have a few bonus rounds and one set of three expanding wilds (think is was two), which paid better than any of my bonus rounds. Balance up a few bucks after quite a bit of play after a dismal start.

But I've played it quite a bit in tourney, I think I was lucky. Not seen many monster hits even in tourney mode from other players.

But it's a game I'll be playing again for sure. I like that it lacks any kind of collector feature, which some recent releases have had.

 

[incrediblestuff]

Well, I like the new game. I run a pokey computer, and game speed is great. I would like better a reel by reel in normal mode though, to add to the anticipation.
Really like that wizards on 2 and 4 expand reel 3 as well, plus it's pretty.

forget to add that in my own post, indeed i would like a reel by reel drop in the normal mode to, or that they could implement a "slow" mode ^^

I never got why all those people nag @ Enzo for everything to go faster, i like my money to last longer, and also appreciate the slot graphics more when the spins are going at a "classic" speed.

And indeed those 2+4 makes 3 wild reels is great too!

 

[bvu2011]

I am not sure how people make the determination that it is a bad paying game after its only been released for 1 day. We all know its gambling and the chances of winning are a lot lower than our chances of losing.

I have played it and yes indeed I have not accomplished a large win, but I also understand that I can not come up with any judgments about it being a high paying game or low paying game until I invest a lot more time, and money. Also whenever I do determine that, it may also just be opinion, or sometimes fact.

I do like the concept of the game, I like the expanding wilds, but I am not a fan of the bonus game. Bonus games that require you to pick for credits are not that exciting IMO.

Well I am sorry for you Mr. Stack that you do no understand other peoples determinations, but I am not understanding yours either. Everyone is different and everyone will have their own opinion. I personally have made my call whether you like it or not lol. I will not continue to invest my time or money into this slot to come up with a determination that suits your claim to having an opinion lol. I have personally lost almost 8k at this casino and mostly within two months and when I did win ONCE (approx. $315) I paid off my rainyday cashed out $55, went back in the casino played and it never paid again, it just took it all back. Hence, when I deposited to play the new game, enchanted wins, and never even got 5min play time, I thought "RUN!!!" I feel like somewhat of a feeder?

AKA bvu2011

 

[bvu2011]

Well I am sorry for you Mr. Stack that you do no understand other peoples determinations, but I am not understanding yours either. Everyone is different and everyone will have their own opinion. I personally have made my call whether you like it or not lol. I will not continue to invest my time or money into this slot to come up with a determination that suits your claim to having an opinion lol. I have personally lost almost 8k at this casino and mostly within two months and when I did win ONCE (approx. $315) I paid off my rainyday cashed out $55, went back in the casino played and it never paid again, it just took it all back. Hence, when I deposited to play the new game, enchanted wins, and never even got 5min play time, I thought "RUN!!!" I feel like somewhat of a feeder?

AKA bvu2011

Wanted to place emphasis that i have deposited way more than what i posted above, the 8k. What i posted above is within five months of this year 2013, but lost most of it in 2 months.

 

[bigjohn]

It looks like a nice game, I can't say anything about the feature game though.

I hate to say it but I took almost 400 spins in real and did not get the 3 dragon feature.

Now I understand it's high variance but typically I start looking for my first feature after 70-80 spins. After 100 I start getting a little antsy. After 200 I start thinking there may be a problem here. When I get over 300 spins and still no feature I get a little...lets say displeased.

I'll probably try it again in the future but so far it seems kinda stubborn to me.

 

[X-Raided]

It looks like a nice game, I can't say anything about the feature game though.

I hate to say it but I took almost 400 spins in real and did not get the 3 dragon feature.

Now I understand it's high variance but typically I start looking for my first feature after 70-80 spins. After 100 I start getting a little antsy. After 200 I start thinking there may be a problem here. When I get over 300 spins and still no feature I get a little...lets say displeased.

I'll probably try it again in the future but so far it seems kinda stubborn to me.

Well put bigjohn. Now that I got a chance to play it for real, IMO one can lose his/her ass pretty
quickly playing Enchanted Spins without an ample bankroll..

Your elation upon getting 3 dragons and going into bonus can quickly turn into depression
when you don't find a key on the wheel and upgrade to the next screen. Your depression can
become temporary insanity after winning 10-12x stake from your previous bonus round and not
seeing 3 more dragons after 300+ spins as demonstrated in bigjohn's session.

 

[BMWSTACK]

Well I am sorry for you Mr. Stack that you do no understand other peoples determinations, but I am not understanding yours either. Everyone is different and everyone will have their own opinion. I personally have made my call whether you like it or not lol. I will not continue to invest my time or money into this slot to come up with a determination that suits your claim to having an opinion lol. I have personally lost almost 8k at this casino and mostly within two months and when I did win ONCE (approx. $315) I paid off my rainyday cashed out $55, went back in the casino played and it never paid again, it just took it all back. Hence, when I deposited to play the new game, enchanted wins, and never even got 5min play time, I thought "RUN!!!" I feel like somewhat of a feeder?

AKA bvu2011

My post is referencing determining payback(RTP), and it is a fact that an average RTP% cannot be determined on a low # of spins.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion of whether they like the game, have a bad feeling about the game and so on. This determination can be made on the first spin or maybe without even spinning.

Hopefully your bad luck ends soon.

 

[bvu2011]

My post is referencing determining payback(RTP), and it is a fact that an average RTP% cannot be determined on a low # of spins.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion of whether they like the game, have a bad feeling about the game and so on. This determination can be made on the first spin or maybe without even spinning.

Hopefully your bad luck ends soon.

okie dokie Mr. Stack....and thank you....Good luck be with you as well!

 

[LaHutti]

I must say that I'm surprised, that some of you "start thinking something's wrong" because you don't get a bonus round within 300 spins. It's almost like you don't understand how slots work at all.
many of MG' slots are supposed to hit a bonus round every 160 spins, on average. That absolutely doesn't mean, that every player has that experience. I've gone 800+ spins on Thunderstruck, without seeing a bonus round
Do you also think something's wrong, when you get 3-4-5 bonus rounds within 100 spins.?

My point is, that any individual players experience, in a limited number of spins, or even sessions, tells you nothing about the game as such. I thought every member here knew that already ?
It takes many many thousands of spins, to reach any conclusion...everything else is guesswork, and feeling.

 

[bvu2011]

I must say that I'm surprised, that some of you "start thinking something's wrong" because you don't get a bonus round within 300 spins. It's almost like you don't understand how slots work at all.
many of MG' slots are supposed to hit a bonus round every 160 spins, on average. That absolutely doesn't mean, that every player has that experience. I've gone 800+ spins on Thunderstruck, without seeing a bonus round
Do you also think something's wrong, when you get 3-4-5 bonus rounds within 100 spins.?

My point is, that any individual players experience, in a limited number of spins, or even sessions, tells you nothing about the game as such. I thought every member here knew that already ?
It takes many many thousands of spins, to reach any conclusion...everything else is guesswork, and feeling.

I don't think anythings wrong, in fact its quite normal LOL And you are absolutely correct, not every player has the same experience! Great acknowledgement..And in all honesty, yes i personally do think somethings wrong when i get 3-4-5 bonus rounds within 100 spins! That may be a red flag that i am finally winning something!

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I really like this slot (I left my balance in 3Dice overnight so I can play it again today ), but I can only re-iterate the point I made earlier in this thread, match your stake to your bankroll.

If you want some confidence that you've got a sufficient bankroll to see it out to a decent hit on the bonus round or a nice win with the wilds on the base game, I'd say that your absolute starting point should be a bankroll of 250x your stake. (So that'd be 20c spins on a $50 deposit.)

Personally I prefer more than that, and I go for a £100 deposit with 20p spins (500x my stake as a bankroll), which is the way I treat the higher variance WMS slots.

If you play the slot for any length of time you will hit dead patches of 200-300 spins without a feature or hitting a stop trigger of 20x stake - (20x stake or feature is generally my autoplay stop threshold on most softwares, including 3Dice) - I think I've nudged up towards 400 spins a couple of times without seeing either of those conditions met.

It's also worth remembering that the feature can't pay zero, your minimum win is 5x stake for the three scatters trigger, plus picks of 3x, 3x, and 4x, which means the absolute minimum pay the feature is capable of is 15x stake. (Off the top of my head you've got the likes of Super Jackpot Party, which is a low variance WMS slot with a pick-me bonus round, that can go 300+ spins without a feature and then pay as little as 1x stake.)

You will get nice runs too, I've hit the three wilds twice in about twenty spins on a couple of occasions, and you'll get lucky runs with the feature trigger as well as bad runs, that's the way random goes

Finally, don't get your hopes up for a four scatters trigger, I've had my best pay on the feature off a three scatters trigger (675x stake), and a four scatters trigger only gives one extra pick, which can easily leave you marooned on level 2. (I've not had a five-scatters trigger, so I can't say whether or not that's designed to always take you forward to level 3, I'd like to think it is!)

Overall I think this is a great slot (I binned off the WMS slots at Unibet last night just to play Enchanted Spins, which is high praise indeed), but you have to get your head around its variance and the way the pays are distributed on the paytable.

If you want to get accustomed to it without risking real money, play it in tourney mode or free spins mode, but rather than playing at crazy-ass spins, play it with what you'd imagine to be a real bankroll, and at stakes you'd actually play at.

The RTP of the slot is solid (over 95%), there's nothing 'wrong' with it, it's just a bit of a change of pace from many of 3Dice's offerings.

 

[bigjohn]

I must say that I'm surprised, that some of you "start thinking something's wrong" because you don't get a bonus round within 300 spins. It's almost like you don't understand how slots work at all.
many of MG' slots are supposed to hit a bonus round every 160 spins, on average. That absolutely doesn't mean, that every player has that experience. I've gone 800+ spins on Thunderstruck, without seeing a bonus round
Do you also think something's wrong, when you get 3-4-5 bonus rounds within 100 spins.?

My point is, that any individual players experience, in a limited number of spins, or even sessions, tells you nothing about the game as such. I thought every member here knew that already ?
It takes many many thousands of spins, to reach any conclusion...everything else is guesswork, and feeling.

I hear what you are saying and I have a pretty good understanding of how slots are supposed to work. I have been playing at casinos, online and B&M, for over 25 years. I play mostly video style slots because it gives me a little extra excitement when the feature comes up.

I think you have to remember the views expressed here are peoples opinions and not professional, mathematical, reviews of a given slot.

That being said, IMO, 400 spins without a feature seems excessive to me.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I hear what you are saying and I have a pretty good understanding of how slots are supposed to work. I have been playing at casinos, online and B&M, for over 25 years. I play mostly video style slots because it gives me a little extra excitement when the feature comes up.

I think you have to remember the views expressed here are peoples opinions and not professional, mathematical, reviews of a given slot.

That being said, IMO, 400 spins without a feature seems excessive to me.

It's not at all excessive for a high variance slot TBH, it's certainly pretty unlucky but 'excessive' is the wrong word. (Off the top of my head the worst I've gone for a bonus round is just over 700 spins on Wild Rockets, and that's only a medium variance slot.)

A slot can't cover all the bases and still make money for the casino, the pays on Enchanted Spins are weighted more towards medium-big wins (with a 3760x stake whopper on there), and that has to be 'paid for' with lower feature frequency and less small 'bankroll maintaining' wins which the likes of, for example, Payola is able to kick out all the time.

Also remember that the minimum pay on the bonus round is 15x stake, not much admittedly, but it does mean that it doesn't have the option of chucking a zero pay bonus round at you.

 

[KasinoKing]

Enchanted Spins is the same sort of story IMO, obviously you can go in with spins of 1%2% of your bankroll if you want to take a big risk with the chance of a big reward, but it will take you apart without even coughing a bonus round if the mood takes it, let alone hitting a decent win - Payola this most definitely is not.

Man, I REALLY wish I'd read this thread (and especially your observations) BEFORE I jumped in with real money play...
So far it has eaten through $100 twice in double quick time and NO bonus features
Early days I know, but it looks like this could be one of 3Dice's highest variance games ever...

KK

 

[weplant]

Great graphics...I made several deposits (50.00, 100.00, etc.), nothing, nada, zilch..I then played in fun mode (never do that) and within 30.00 spins (at 1.00 per spin), I hit 546.00!! Yikes..So I deposited real again..Guess what? nothing , nada, zilch..Hey, put that does not mean it won't hit big..Its called gambling...I put a lot in Moohlah and can go 20 or more deposits and hit nothing, then all of sudden, its hot.
I will try Enchanted again, as I said, love the graphics and I have faith

 

[Balthazar]

it has eaten through $100 twice in double quick time and NO bonus features

How much were you betting?

 

[mattsgame]

I don't mind it, it is just like you would expect from 3Dice and that is high variance.

I played it for a little bit with bets ranging from 40c - 60c and hit the wilds on 2-4 twice for around 100x bet and had the feature quite a few times and made it to the second chamber twice resulting in around 50x bet.

I like the graphics and don't mind the drop in reels as I am used to these on NetEnt games, USA players wouldn't be too used it I guess.

But as Chopley has stated I would not go in all gunz blazing and bet to your limit, it has the potential to hit big but also drain your balance in minutes.

Wish 3Dice would bring out some true Medium/Low variance slots were features are more frequent, as that's what players usually play for to keep them entertained.

Cheers
Matt

 

[Wild Reels]

its a game ive gone back to 3dice to play again, the first time i went in high betting £1 per spin with a £100 deposit, and had a great run, lots of bonus round and several 2 wilds turning the 3 columns (reel 2 +4) and got from 100 to around 450 in about half an hour, with several good wins, then hit a dry spell and withdrew 350

have been a bit more cautious since betting minimum and rode out the dead spins, sometimes regaining back up to my bankroll and leaving it, and yesterday getting to 175, ill be playing it again but betting fairly moderately on it in the future as ive seen both sides to it, but it has yet to eat my bankroll

 

[weesie]

I am beginning to think getting any decent win, on any slot or game for that matter at 3 Dice is like:

trying to squeeze a buffalo nickle until the buffalo poops.