New Slot Announcement New 3Dice slot - 'DICE FUSION', 3Dice does Reactoonz

[KasinoKing]

lol...If you walk along the pavement and see a 500g medium-brown walnut whip-shaped dog turd and knowingly ignore it, then 10 paces further along see a 500g dark brown walnut whip-shaped dog turd with some sweetcorn embedded in it, would you pick it up in your hand because it looked different to the first turd?

I don't understand what your problem is - neither of them are bad games. I've had some amazing wins on Reactoonz
Yes, they look sort of medium variance but are actually pretty high variance in my opinion. (A bit TOO high for my liking - I can hardly bare to play Reactoonz any more)
OK, so you are VERY unlikely to get x1000+ but you can still get some very decent hits.

KK

 

[incrediblestuff]

I don't understand what your problem is - neither of them are bad games. I've had some amazing wins on Reactoonz
Yes, they look sort of medium variance but are actually pretty high variance in my opinion. (A bit TOO high for my liking - I can hardly bare to play Reactoonz any more)
OK, so you are VERY unlikely to get x1000+ but you can still get some very decent hits.

KK

Same for me! Still love the game in a way, but can hardly stand to play it these days.
And Dunover's prob is just being a grumpy 'ole sourpuss (j/k buddy i love ya)

I do get why a lot of people hate Reactoonz and the likes, though. The sense of riggedness and the teasing are strong in this one! Same for it's clones and 'nephews'.....

@1000x - Fun thing is, that holds less true for Dice Fusion @KasinoKing and it has already been chucking out several 3K+ hits since launch. Obviously, having a comparatively much smaller playerbase then say Reactoonz would have had on launch, and counting results over the years, i ask you how many 1000x + screenies and vid's have you even seen on that game up til now? And i'm saying that as a fan Which would mean that over this little test-phase, if you will, the Dice game already blasts the OG out of the park, in terms of delivering it's max potential/

Side note: Iirc - i even get you hooked on the predecessor back in the day, Energoonz, and i've played all those grid games that came before and after, with gusto, so to speak. I think i can count the 1000x's combined over all clones, nephews and the OG on one hand

Just saying, despite loving Reactoonz, i already feel this Fusion game outdoes the game it was obviously inspired by,- by a mile! The enhancements are better, the teases are less annoying (that's of course just a matter of taste ) the max win is more achievable, and overall it just feels and plays better, i.m.o.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I'll lob this in here rather than start another thread, throughout the Christmas/New Year period 3Dice run a load of extra promos, and they're really quite good. Your regular VIP bonuses are boosted a bit and may even end up with no WR. On top of that, any deposit in a 24 hour period enters you into the daily sweepstake draws (of which there are three), and if your name turns up on the SPINNY WHEEL OF PRIZES you get, well obviously, a prize.

(This in on top of a load of other stuff where they add achievement thingies into a variety of their slots whereby you also win cash for getting the most/least of a whole host of different events/results based on various parameters, longest winning streak, longest losing streak, most retriggers, highest consecutive number of free spins etc.)

Anyway, this is the first year my name has come in on one of the draws, and y'know, it's really pretty good, a £150 bonus award with a wagering requirement of..... zero.

This is why I stay playing at 3Dice, even when a new game of theirs like Dice Fusion pisses me off (you can see I'm just back playing Enchanted Spins in the background here), when was the last time a casino gave you a £150 bonus completely wager free? (i.e Withdrawable funds.)

I am still undecided as to whether or not I want to take on Dice Fusion again, even with the £150 of free money.....

 

[The Viking]

I'll lob this in here rather than start another thread, throughout the Christmas/New Year period 3Dice run a load of extra promos, and they're really quite good. Your regular VIP bonuses are boosted a bit and may even end up with no WR. On top of that, any deposit in a 24 hour period enters you into the daily sweepstake draws (of which there are three), and if your name turns up on the SPINNY WHEEL OF PRIZES you get, well obviously, a prize.

(This in on top of a load of other stuff where they add achievement thingies into a variety of their slots whereby you also win cash for getting the most/least of a whole host of different events/results based on various parameters, longest winning streak, longest losing streak, most retriggers, highest consecutive number of free spins etc.)

Anyway, this is the first year my name has come in on one of the draws, and y'know, it's really pretty good, a £150 bonus award with a wagering requirement of..... zero.

This is why I stay playing at 3Dice, even when a new game of theirs like Dice Fusion pisses me off (you can see I'm just back playing Enchanted Spins in the background here), when was the last time a casino gave you a £150 bonus completely wager free? (i.e Withdrawable funds.)

I am still undecided as to whether or not I want to take on Dice Fusion again, even with the £150 of free money.....

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Very nice
Remember about 3 years ago before they took all my deposit options away i won around 1000 bux in one of thos holiday random jackpots ?
Was playing Tut with about $2 bux left when one of thos scrolling reels pops up and landed on my name ?

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Even free money can't tempt me back to give Dice Fusion another try with real funds, so instead I've kept it lumping away in demo play with a 100x stop trigger, WHICH IT RARELY HITS. (For my actual real money play, I've returned to old favourites such as Enchanted Spins and Berrini's Fortune.)

It still hasn't done a 1000x or better win either, I just don't get the volatility profile/win distribution on this slot at all, unlike something such as Enchanted Spins, which can sort of go on 'streaks' if you catch it right and recover a surprising amount of damage with a nice cluster of mid-sized wins, Dice Fusion doesn't seem capable of it, once you get a few hundred times stake down, that's kind of it really, you almost certainly ain't recovering that position.

I'd be interested to know what the maximum win it's capable of is, 3Dice will obviously have the numbers, and in the past they've been forthcoming with them when I've asked. Maybe there are some monster hits in there to help account for the horrible balance draining it seems to do most of the time.

Anyway, at least it's only getting pretend money off me now

 

[ChopleyIOM]

So I've switched to real money play for the evening and fired up Gemini, 13 minutes in and it throws out 259x, I've had Dice Fusion running all day in fun money mode and it hasn't managed that.

I also hate the contrived sequences that Dice Fusion (Reactoonz) employs, you're obviously just watching computer generated sequences of results that have been picked out of a bag of RNG numbers, rather than an actual slot with, y'know, actual reels.

So yeah, not a fan, you can probably tell.

 

[rena35]

I got a nice 600 bucks on a 40 cent bet playing Dice Fusion. I lost a bit trying it when it first was released. I am not a big fan of it. I might give it a few spins but nothing more. I don't like Legion game at all but i have seen some nice wins. Way to go on the sweepstakes win. I tried to win it but found i deposited way more then it was worth. My luck has always been a one hit wonder . Everyones game play is differet so you never know .

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I am still lumping away at Dice Fusion in demo play mode. Still no 1000x win. I have done lots of spins on it in demo play. Lots.

You get $100 of free money when loading up a slot in demo play at 3Dice, so what usually happens is I load the slot up, and slowly lose the $100 on 20c spins. And then I do it again. And again. And again. Sometimes my balance goes up a bit to start with, but it always ends up at zero.

I have it set to a 100x stop trigger, and it very rarely hits that.

TBH if I'd had any idea that the pay profile on this game was so whack I'd never have even remotely chucked as much real money into it as I did.

Sometimes lessons need to be learned the hard way!

 

[dunover]

I am still lumping away at Dice Fusion in demo play mode. Still no 1000x win. I have done lots of spins on it in demo play. Lots.

You get $100 of free money when loading up a slot in demo play at 3Dice, so what usually happens is I load the slot up, and slowly lose the $100 on 20c spins. And then I do it again. And again. And again. Sometimes my balance goes up a bit to start with, but it always ends up at zero.

I have it set to a 100x stop trigger, and it very rarely hits that.

TBH if I'd had any idea that the pay profile on this game was so whack I'd never have even remotely chucked as much real money into it as I did.

Sometimes lessons need to be learned the hard way!

Seems like Gnatent must've designed the game...

 

[ChopleyIOM]

New high score!

867x so alas still not the fabled 1000x or better which I seek, and yes I am in demo play, I am not spending any more real money on this game.

Still, in fairness, this is with a starting balance of $100 and on 20c spins my balance has increased to $287. (This is probably about the best I've ever seen it play, it's hit a few other decent wins too this session.)

I've also realised that I completely hate these reaction/tumble style games from a fundamental design perspective, as you're clearly just watching pre-scripted sequences that play out based on what the RNG has picked out of a bag, so a 'lottery' style game like Jammin' Jars, basically.

I like games with proper reels, although I appreciate I am a bit of an old fuddy-duddy in that regard.

Now on the other hand, I really like Enchanted Spin's bonus round, even though I know I am watching a result that has already been generated server-side just play out, but unlike the contrived nonsense that Dice Fusion/Reactoonz shows you, at least with Enchanted Spins you're watching the results of a set of random picks.

 

[Kroffe]

New high score!

867x so alas still not the fabled 1000x or better which I seek, and yes I am in demo play, I am not spending any more real money on this game.

Still, in fairness, this is with a starting balance of $100 and on 20c spins my balance has increased to $287. (This is probably about the best I've ever seen it play, it's hit a few other decent wins too this session.)

I've also realised that I completely hate these reaction/tumble style games from a fundamental design perspective, as you're clearly just watching pre-scripted sequences that play out based on what the RNG has picked out of a bag, so a 'lottery' style game like Jammin' Jars, basically.

I like games with proper reels, although I appreciate I am a bit of an old fuddy-duddy in that regard.

Now on the other hand, I really like Enchanted Spin's bonus round, even though I know I am watching a result that has already been generated server-side just play out, but unlike the contrived nonsense that Dice Fusion/Reactoonz shows you, at least with Enchanted Spins you're watching the results of a set of random picks.

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Speaking of RNG, have you played 'Slay the spire'?
A pretty fun card game that is similar to Hearthstone in some ways.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

This is the other problem with this game, I'm surprised 3Dice copied it directly from Reactoonz (because it's really skanky), and it explains why it can be so miserable to play sometimes, unless you're hitting those big wins right up at the top end, there's really nothing else on the paytable to give you a balance boost or even a solid win.

Hitting the 750x is really hard, and even the next one down at 300x is pretty bloody rare. (It is possible to get multipliers on the wins but which ones can actually be multiplied? I don't know because we're looking at nonsense sound and light shows rather than proper reels, do they exist on the paytable? Who knows, who can tell? Can the 750x get a 2x multiplier? Flip a coin!)

Also there's some RTP missing here, as the original PnG version (at max RTP at least) was 96.4% or thereabouts, whereas 3Dice have knocked it down to 95.2%, so clearly some wins have been taken out of the results.

Overall this game has got one of those really weird PnG volatility profiles whereby the max wins aren't that big, but with such a dependence on those mid-biggish range wins that are rare, catch it on a downswing and it'll slowly dismantle as much money as you care to throw at it.

4/10 - would not Dice Fusion again with real money.

 

[goatwack]

Can't believe it. No, not Dice Fusion's shady returns, but the fact that we're witnessing the conscious uncoupling of Chopley and 3Dice in real-time!!

 

[KasinoKing]

I've also realised that I completely hate these reaction/tumble style games from a fundamental design perspective, as you're clearly just watching pre-scripted sequences that play out based on what the RNG has picked out of a bag, so a 'lottery' style game like Jammin' Jars, basically.

I like games with proper reels, although I appreciate I am a bit of an old fuddy-duddy in that regard.

I have come to suspect that ALL slots these days work on the "lottery-style" principle - basically they are all just scratchcards with very fancy graphics to reveal whatever size win got picked out of the hat.
Even slots like the good old MG 9-liners have probably been reprogrammed this way, when they were "upgraded" to HTML5

Jammin' Jams was just very sloppily done, which allowed the mechanics to be spotted fairly easily.

At the end of the day - does it REALLY make any difference?
I don't like to admit it, but NO it doesn't. The RTP is the RTP, no matter how exactly it is arrived at.

KK

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Can't believe it. No, not Dice Fusion's shady returns, but the fact that we're witnessing the conscious uncoupling of Chopley and 3Dice in real-time!!

I'll rebrand myself to GwynethIOM

In all seriousness though, I'm not uncritical of 3Dice and never have been, I just think they get a lot of stuff right when it comes to what you'd want from an online casino, and report my opinions on that basis. (And get accused of 'shilling' for my trouble.....)

I genuinely think they've dropped the ball with this game though, and don't really understand why they chose to clone this game as a new release.

(I could be completely wrong of course, perhaps it's doing banging numbers for them and everyone else who plays at 3Dice loves it!)

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I have come to suspect that ALL slots these days work on the "lottery-style" principle - basically they are all just scratchcards with very fancy graphics to reveal whatever size win got picked out of the hat.
Even slots like the good old MG 9-liners have probably been reprogrammed this way, when they were "upgraded" to HTML5

Jammin' Jams was just very sloppily done, which allowed the mechanics to be spotted fairly easily.

At the end of the day - does it REALLY make any difference?
I don't like to admit it, but NO it doesn't. The RTP is the RTP, no matter how exactly it is arrived at.

KK

For me KK, I think it does matter, because what these style of games represent is a total disconnect between the 'backend' and the 'frontend'. We had a big debate about Jammin' Jars back in 2018 and my problem with Reactoonz/Dice Fusion is kind of the same, it creates false expectation on the player's part, because the game shows you 'possibilities' that simply don't exist. I've seen some screens on Dice Fusion where in the Gargantoon round there was a monster pay on offer if it'd landed in the right place, but there's no randomness in where it's going to land, it's just a pre-scripted sequence playing out.

I appreciate this isn't unique either, Twin Spin (and Gemini does the same at 3Dice) famously makes it look like it can land five full reels of diamonds when it's doing the reel locks, but those who know the game, know it doesn't exist on the paytable.

I saw someone post a screenshot from Gemini in the chat at 3Dice last year, it was full strips of diamonds on 2-3-4-5 with a comment along the lines of 'So close, just needed reel 1 as well!' and other players commiserating with them, and I'm just thinking 'that's an impossible hit, it doesn't exist'.

This is why I tend to stick to older, simpler games, where I can see what's going on with the reels.

I do see your point though, you absolutely can take the line that as long as the original RNG call that kicks the sequence off is entirely random at all times, from the entire result set, then it doesn't ultimately make much difference. (Which in the strictest mathematical sense, is true!)

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Back in real money play, and it's a new high score that's fallen just short of my 1000x target - but I'll definitely settle for it!

I haven't deposited any money to play here, but I got my 21st of the month VIP bonus which is £25 of funds on a 15xWR, so £375 to wager from £25.

I figured since it was sort of free money, I'd lob it at Dice Fusion, not expecting great results, and yet with a mere £6.73p left in the tank, it did this.....

That's a nice potential landing zone for a Gargantoon.....

And it actually landed in the perfect spot!

Round finished at 944x stake.

So that makes finishing wagering on this pretty much a slam dunk, getting the remainder of £375 done from a balance of just shy of £200 is going to happen, but I've moved over to Enchanted Spins for that

Honestly, this doesn't change my opinion about Dice Fusion or any of my previous comments about it, I was only playing it this evening as I had bonus funds to do so with, but sure, I won't moan about a 944x stake win

 

[pokerdan]

Took me forever to win on it. But I finally got some big wins on Fusion. In that second picture I had a chance for an even bigger win. if the orb would have landed to left and connected the other 3dice symbols it would have been 3-4 more dice symbols I think.

 

[dave1888]

Anyway, your TLDR on this is 3Dice now have a dice-themed Reactoonz on their books with a better RTP than you're likely to find Reactoonz at these days.....

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Reactoonz is 96% for UK on the White hat group(casilando,reel island etc) I think it might be decent RTP on Sporting bet and Party too would need to check..

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Took me forever to win on it. But I finally got some big wins on Fusion. In that second picture I had a chance for an even bigger win. if the orb would have landed to left and connected the other 3dice symbols it would have been 3-4 more dice symbols I think.

So that first hit there appears to have breached the fabled 1000x win threshold, and indeed by quite some margin, coming in at 1548x!

Once you get to 15 3Dice symbols in a cluster it doesn't matter how many more are in it, you're at the maximum 750x at that point, the only thing that can make the win bigger is if you get a 2x2 of the 3Dice symbol somewhere in the cluster, which will double it, or a second 2x2 which will quadruple it. i.e. 750x, 1500x, or 3000x.

To get 1548x suggests you had a 2x2 of the 3Dice symbols as part of the big win, do you remember if that's what happened or not?

For example in this reaction here, the presence of the 2x2 block means it pays 600x (£60x2) in instead of 300x.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I have no idea how this happened, I have had this game running in demo play a lot. Like, A LOT.

Came back from a walk to the shops to find this, 3054x stake.

Alas it's demo play, but it shows it can hit big!

I'd love to understand what set of circumstances can actually lead to this sort of win - maybe @3Dice can help? (As the biggest single win according to the paytable is 750x for the top paying cluster, so there must have been multiple big reactions with multipliers going on.)

I don't suppose 3Dice log demo play so could replay the round?

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Oh for absolute flip's sake Chopley you numbnuts moomin.....

I've just realised you can click on the little arrows to look at the win history on the current round, oh well, that's long gone now for the win shown above!

Piffle!

 

[incrediblestuff]

Lol, i did note earlier that this one's 'max potential' at least seems to show up a ton - which is why i asked how often you, and anyone else here, have seena 1000x plus win on Reactoonz? Including you, there are at least 7 3Dice players that have hit the 3000x so far, which in comparison is 10000 times as much as Reactoonz delivered, i'm sure

Granted i'm sucking those numbers from Play'n GO out of my arse, but i think i'm spot on!
I don't even think the 3000x is max, but it's basically possible to hit that in one spin, if i undrstand it correctly, and in the bonus you could theoretically then get it on all three wild feature hits, plus the stuff leading up to it? Which would make a 10.000x possible?

Questionmarks instead of exclamation, since i'm not sure it's a one spin hit. If not, a 5000x would seem more on target, as max-ish win.
Obviously would love to find out whilst playing

I gave it a little break, because just as Reactoonz, it does my fckn head in with all the teases, and 20p is also a little over my preferred betsize ^.^
Hope you hit it in real mate!

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I landed a decent hit on Lycantropics, documented here - New 3Dice Slot - 'LYCANTROPICS' - Yes that is what they called it - Page 2 - Casinomeister Forum

Still got nearly all the wagering to do on the deposit, and I'm in a favourable position. So much against my better judgement, this bastard can have another crack of the whip.

COME ON BABY, EVERYTHING'S COMING UP CHOPLEY TONIGHT.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Well it clearly can't go wrong at this point, but the more I can finish with the better!

I do like having an old-fashioned WR to target.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Well it got me there but as you can see it didn't do a particularly impressive job! I came onto it with £342 (as per above screenshot) and by the time it'd done about £560 of wagering my balance had diminished by £184. This means if I'd come onto it without the chunky 908x win on Lycantropics burnishing my balance, I'd have bust out before even making the very modest 5xD+B WR on the bonus!

Stupid game.

So stupid I'll carry on playing it this evening and see if I can manage a bit of a turnaround on it. Grrrr.

(It's still a good result overall though. £158 of withdrawable funds from a £60 deposit with a £60 match on a bonus.)

Wouldn't say no to that 3054x win in real play instead of demo play.....

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Well that's 375x, not immense, but I'll take it.

I absolutely could stop playing at this point, wagering is cleared, but I'll just keep it rolling for this evening and see what transpires.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Well that's 375x, not immense, but I'll take it.

I absolutely could stop playing at this point, wagering is cleared, but I'll just keep it rolling for this evening and see what transpires.

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Yes, I can also stop playing whenever I want

 

[ChopleyIOM]

In fairness it rolled decently well yesterday evening, and after some three hours of solid autoplay I had a tenner more than I started with, so can't really complain.

Now that I know it can do 3000x plus, as evidenced by demo play, I want to replicate that with real funds

 

[Gavashy]

Gah! Here's a slightly frustrating board state. The 3Dice symbol is the top paying symbol (like the pink thingy on Reactoonz) and I got the bonus reaction that grabs a selection of symbols and turns them all the same. For a second I thought it'd make a 15+ cluster for 750x but somehow it managed to gimp itself as you can see here.

Easy to see how it could have easily managed to not be so twatty about it where I've marked with green crosses!

In fact it would have been 1500x, because I've got the 2x2 configuration which would have applied a 2x multiplier to the win.

Oh well, woulda coulda shoulda.

I think I'm going to properly dig in on this and just absolutely smack it to pieces until it either takes all my money or delivers a seriously big hit.

GAME ON!

(The balance you can see there is just what I'm playing with on my current VIP match offer, I've still got £500 in my Personal Safe.)

Chopley vs Dice Fusion - place your bets.....

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[Gavashy]

Keep up the good work on YouTube mate great entertainment, ?

 

[Mattue]

Thanks for the great review @ChopleyIOM

I've grinded out the whale bonus on this slot, so I feel I've played it quite a bit, and it's interesting how my experience has been completely different from yours, yet I can still relate to a lot of what you said.

I still can't tell if this slot is playing out a pre-picked sequence or is randomly generated. Usually, slots that follow a pattern can be predicted early on in the sequence as combinations line up that seem forced, but so many times on this slot, I've been convinced I'm on the winning pattern, only for it to then miss completely.

Overall, my prediction of it making it to the dice fusion is probably the same as the odds of reaching there, yet I still feel that there are times when patterns happen that seem forced.

It's become my favorite game at @3Dice as I maintained an RTP of over 110% for a good while, but I'm sure it's dropped a lot since then.

 

[Mattue]

It’s bad enough to go 1000 spins without a bonus on any given month, but I done it twice ?

Thing is, I had just started to grind the £300 Whale bonus after noticing I was at 76%, but this run means I lost more than that already and only moved up from 76% complete to 78%.

It could be a disaster trying to complete that bonus as I still need to make 5500 spins at £0.75 or more.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Crikey - Dice Fusion certainly isn't a slot I'd choose to try and grind out Whale with!

Your best bet is probably Conny & Blyde, 96.13% RTP and low volatility.

I used to have the occasional punt at Whale myself, but once the minimum spin value was increased to 75p I didn't bother. Yes they reduced the number of spins required to compensate for the change (so the overall WR was essentially unchanged), but it left you far more exposed to the vagaries of variance.

(Does Dice Fusion even have a bonus round in terms of spin count? I can't remember if it recognises the Gargantoon (sorry, Dice Fusion) round as a bonus or not, in terms of resetting the feature spin count.) <<<< EDIT - Yes it must do, as can be deduced from your screenshot.

 

[Mattue]

Crikey - Dice Fusion certainly isn't a slot I'd choose to try and grind out Whale with!

Your best bet is probably Conny & Blyde, 96.13% RTP and low volatility.

I used to have the occasional punt at Whale myself, but once the minimum spin value was increased to 75p I didn't bother. Yes they reduced the number of spins required to compensate for the change (so the overall WR was essentially unchanged), but it left you far more exposed to the vagaries of variance.

(Does Dice Fusion even have a bonus round in terms of spin count? I can't remember if it recognises the Gargantoon (sorry, Dice Fusion) round as a bonus or not, in terms of resetting the feature spin count.) <<<< EDIT - Yes it must do, as can be deduced from your screenshot.

Thanks for the tip! I was thinking about finding the lowest volatile slot and grinding the rest, so I'll try that one at the weekend

I do seem to hit the 750x on Dice often enough, but you need those 50x features to maintain a balance. Without any feature the RTP is so low in the base that your balance just falls. Although my 1500x win came in the base so it can do some crazy stuff without making it to the fusion.

 

[Mattue]

I deposited £50 to test how well Conny & Blyde would work for wagering, but after waiting 5 minutes for my deposit to come through, I was in a different place mentally and the first thing I done was load Dice Fusion again.

Glad I did now as it hit none stop features, then this

Now I'm grinding out the Whale bonus and should make it, turns out good ole Payola has been the best for me so far

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I deposited £50 to test how well Conny & Blyde would work for wagering, but after waiting 5 minutes for my deposit to come through, I was in a different place mentally and the first thing I done was load Dice Fusion again.

Glad I did now as it hit none stop features, then this

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Now I'm grinding out the Whale bonus and should make it, turns out good ole Payola has been the best for me so far

Nice hit, and a difficult one to get!

Payola is a good wagering slot, although ultimately it's got a lower RTP than Conny & Blyde, albeit not by much.

Wild Waves is a decent wagering slot too, and also has a solid top pay of 3000x if you can get the full screen of Hula Ladies in free spins. (I never have.)

One problem with Conny & Blyde is it's quite slow to play because it chucks in the bonus spins so often, so there's that to consider.

Funky Five is the highest RTP slot on the 3Dice books at 96.45%, and isn't crazy volatile either.

 

[Mattue]

Nice hit, and a difficult one to get!

Payola is a good wagering slot, although ultimately it's got a lower RTP than Conny & Blyde, albeit not by much.

Wild Waves is a decent wagering slot too, and also has a solid top pay of 3000x if you can get the full screen of Hula Ladies in free spins. (I never have.)

One problem with Conny & Blyde is it's quite slow to play because it chucks in the bonus spins so often, so there's that to consider.

Funky Five is the highest RTP slot on the 3Dice books at 96.45%, and isn't crazy volatile either.

Ended up losing it all trying to wager on the rinky-dinky low variance every-bonus-10x-finally-get-a-4-scatter-upgraded-bonus-only-for-it-to-pay-30x-slots…

Then I lost the £300 bonus, then rainy day funds, then another £300 in deposits before I stopped and asked myself wtf am I doing.

That whole experience of trying to wager has left me with this feeling of how stupid it is to play slots at all when you know the odds are against you and how you need to get lucky, just to not lose. You’re forever heading towards 0 and it’s just a matter of time before you get there and all winning does is delay the inevitable.

Towards the end I was glad Conny & Blyde was so slow and hitting shit bonuses because it was a disaster on every other slot and I think my highest hit after that big hit was 50x for 5 diamond.

 

[Gavashy]

It’s bad enough to go 1000 spins without a bonus on any given month, but I done it twice ?

Thing is, I had just started to grind the £300 Whale bonus after noticing I was at 76%, but this run means I lost more than that already and only moved up from 76% complete to 78%.

It could be a disaster trying to complete that bonus as I still need to make 5500 spins at £0.75 or more.

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Don't take a bonus then I've never cant do with being tied down to all that crap,deposit what you can afford it's all designed to keep you on there site I've fell for it once never again.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Ended up losing it all trying to wager on the rinky-dinky low variance every-bonus-10x-finally-get-a-4-scatter-upgraded-bonus-only-for-it-to-pay-30x-slots…

Then I lost the £300 bonus, then rainy day funds, then another £300 in deposits before I stopped and asked myself wtf am I doing.

That whole experience of trying to wager has left me with this feeling of how stupid it is to play slots at all when you know the odds are against you and how you need to get lucky, just to not lose. You’re forever heading towards 0 and it’s just a matter of time before you get there and all winning does is delay the inevitable.

Towards the end I was glad Conny & Blyde was so slow and hitting shit bonuses because it was a disaster on every other slot and I think my highest hit after that big hit was 50x for 5 diamond.

Ouch, never nice to bust out chasing a reward! The thing with Whale is you need to work out what it's likely to cost you on 'perfect' average luck (i.e. you get 95% of every spin back), allow for a run of bad luck on top of that, and then compare that with your bankroll and what Whale awards depending on your VIP level when you actually get there.

Whale is now 25,000 spins in a month at stakes of 75p or higher. If you achieve a perfect 95% each spin will 'cost' 3.75p (assuming 75p spins), multiply that by 25,000 and you're at £937.50p.

i.e. If you were starting on a fresh month and had done zero spins, you'd expect to lose nearly all of a bankroll of £1000 to complete Whale at 75p spins. (And remember, that assumes you manage 95% RTP).

For reference, this is what Whale used to look like, it was 75,000 spins to complete it but the only stipulation was that all lines must be played on a videoslot, so Squirrel Pike on 9p spins could get the job done. (And possibly even Funky Five on 5p as that's a five-liner). Certainly I did nearly all of it once on Squirrel Pike at 9p spins, which massively reduces the amount of wagering required, even with the 75,000 spin requirement.

I've got a little spreadsheet that works it out.

Here's new Whale with the 75p minimum spin:

And here's old Whale when 9p spins on Squirrel Pike counted:

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I've been lumping away at this a bit again recently, and remembered that the Zeitgeist page is a thing.

As you can see, this game basically tops out at 3000x, albeit with a few different ways of getting there. (Remember we're watching pre-scripted sequences in this game, so 3Dice have at least put a few different 'balls in the bag' that can deliver the ~3000x top pay.)

To hit 3000x it'll be the 15+ cluster of the 3Dice symbols with two 'doubling cubes' in there as that'll push the 750x base pay for this configuration out to 3000x. The slight variance in these top pays reported by the Zeitgeist page will be reflective of the fact that the sequences are a bit different.

I'd pondered earlier in this thread if two of the doubling cubes were possible with the 3Dice symbols, or if it were limited to one, (this would make the max pay 3000x or 1500x respectively), the fact that these 3000x wins are on the Zeitgeist tells us it can do it with two cubes, as that's the only way to hit this win, unless it does two lots of 1500x as part of the same sequence on a single play.

As for the game itself, it's lumpy but not insanely so, very PnG style volatility where there's a lot of RTP in those mid-sized and bigger wins that you can go on some pretty dry runs of not hitting, but it levels off in the end.

Anyway, I've put it on my 'long term goals' list at 3Dice, along with hitting five scatters on Berrini's Fortune, one of the single-liner progressives, and a few other things

 

[ChopleyIOM]

If you've ever followed my slots antics write-ups elsewhere on CM, or back on my old YT channel when I used to take on variously daft challenges (the 65xD+B bonus endeavour at Tropica where I did £122,000 of wagering over a weekend to beat an 'unbeatable' bonus being one of the most notable), you'll know I'm not adverse to digging my heels in and setting myself a slots target.

Now in some cases the scale of the undertaking is so completely depressing and tiresome that I'll make a judgement call to bail out, Lil Devil being the most recent that had me swear off BTG and indeed represented the last time I deposited at Videoslots (that's all documented over in the Lil Devil thread). So maybe BTG have done me a favour there.

Now that I'm back at 3Dice I've decided I'm going to play Dice Fusion until I've pulled one of the ~3000x balls out of the bag, we know these are in there because they're listed on the Zeitgeist page.

(And yes that is me who has four out of the top ten places on 'recent wins' because I've been hammering away at this game recently.)

So far it's not been going brilliantly, insofar as I haven't even managed to crack 1000x. But it does like to kick out wins in the 200x-750x(ish) range on a reasonably regular basis. 750x is your baseline win for a 15+ cluster of the top paying symbols, next one down is 300x but it does quite like to stick a doubling cube in with that one to make 600x, and down the paytable from there.

(If you go back to Page 1 of this thread, you can see that this game really is a Reactoonz clone, right down to an exact copy of the paytable.)

The good news (for me at least) is that I have the bankroll to take this on (following those splendid wins on Cleopatra's Conquest and The Joker) -

New(ish) 3Dice Slot - 'CLEOPATRA'S CONQUEST', chasing the scatters.... - Casinomeister Forum

The Endless Stupidity Of Chasing Progressives - Page 2 - Casinomeister Forum

As I suspect it might take a fair bit of camping out, just in the last ten days alone I've put about 52 hours into it. Some sessions I can finish with a balance above where I started, sometimes it'll be about even, others will be a bit more damaging. The game's RTP is 95.2% so solid but unspectacular, and its RTP distribution is pretty lumpy, as PnG tended to lean towards, and as Reactoonz famously was as well.

It's done a 768x this morning but as you can see, it's a blatant 'ball out of the bag' scenario because we know what we're watching here are pre-scripted sequences, you can see the board state here isn't very promising, but on one of the normal reactions (i.e. before the Gargantoon itself), the bonus reaction decides to kick out the perfect configuration of top paying 3Dice symbols and boom, just like that, 750x is added to the running total.

It's all a bit daft really, you could reduce the whole thing to the game just showing a number on screen in plain text, to represent the ball it's picked out of the bag, but whatever, I like the sound and light shows

Anyway, eventually, (hopefully.....), I'll be posting a screenshot of me hitting a 3000x win on it.....

 

[dunover]

If you've ever followed my slots antics write-ups elsewhere on CM, or back on my old YT channel when I used to take on variously daft challenges (the 65xD+B bonus endeavour at Tropica where I did £122,000 of wagering over a weekend to beat an 'unbeatable' bonus being one of the most notable), you'll know I'm not adverse to digging my heels in and setting myself a slots target.

Now in some cases the scale of the undertaking is so completely depressing and tiresome that I'll make a judgement call to bail out, Lil Devil being the most recent that had me swear off BTG and indeed represented the last time I deposited at Videoslots (that's all documented over in the Lil Devil thread). So maybe BTG have done me a favour there.

Now that I'm back at 3Dice I've decided I'm going to play Dice Fusion until I've pulled one of the ~3000x balls out of the bag, we know these are in there because they're listed on the Zeitgeist page.

(And yes that is me who has four out of the top ten places on 'recent wins' because I've been hammering away at this game recently.)

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So far it's not been going brilliantly, insofar as I haven't even managed to crack 1000x. But it does like to kick out wins in the 200x-750x(ish) range on a reasonably regular basis. 750x is your baseline win for a 15+ cluster of the top paying symbols, next one down is 300x but it does quite like to stick a doubling cube in with that one to make 600x, and down the paytable from there.

(If you go back to Page 1 of this thread, you can see that this game really is a Reactoonz clone, right down to an exact copy of the paytable.)

The good news (for me at least) is that I have the bankroll to take this on (following those splendid wins on Cleopatra's Conquest and The Joker) -

New(ish) 3Dice Slot - 'CLEOPATRA'S CONQUEST', chasing the scatters.... - Casinomeister Forum

The Endless Stupidity Of Chasing Progressives - Page 2 - Casinomeister Forum

As I suspect it might take a fair bit of camping out, just in the last ten days alone I've put about 52 hours into it. Some sessions I can finish with a balance above where I started, sometimes it'll be about even, others will be a bit more damaging. The game's RTP is 95.2% so solid but unspectacular, and its RTP distribution is pretty lumpy, as PnG tended to lean towards, and as Reactoonz famously was as well.

It's done a 768x this morning but as you can see, it's a blatant 'ball out of the bag' scenario because we know what we're watching here are pre-scripted sequences, you can see the board state here isn't very promising, but on one of the normal reactions (i.e. before the Gargantoon itself), the bonus reaction decides to kick out the perfect configuration of top paying 3Dice symbols and boom, just like that, 750x is added to the running total.

It's all a bit daft really, you could reduce the whole thing to the game just showing a number on screen in plain text, to represent the ball it's picked out of the bag, but whatever, I like the sound and light shows

Anyway, eventually, (hopefully.....), I'll be posting a screenshot of me hitting a 3000x win on it.....

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Well if it's any consolation 3Dice at least don't have the propensity of other developers to use themes and graphics that Enid Blyton would have considered infantile.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Well if it's any consolation 3Dice at least don't have the propensity of other developers to use themes and graphics that Enid Blyton would have considered infantile.

Yeah their Slotronomicon game doesn't piss about at all, severed hands, beating black hearts, even the main game screen is pretty dark and gruesome. All very occulty.

The soundscape is oppressive and sinister too.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Two 750x plus hits in a day - I'll take it!

You won't find a better landing spot for a Gargantoon than that, and it didn't disappoint.

827x total pay. Crikey I'm so glad I gave up on the suicide mission of camping out Lil Devil to a big pay. I'd probably still be at it now.

Anyway, I must carry on, 827x is nice but it isn't 3000x or better. I don't even remotely believe in the notion of a game having 'paid out' and not likely to pay out more (i.e. compensation), so I'll just keep lumping away at it.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

And there's the 'big win hat trick' for the day, this one coming in at 709x.

This is one of those that's on the build-up to the Gargantoon rather than the Gargantoon itself, I'd say the split is about 50/50 in that regard with where the big pays tend to come from.

You can see how it set this one up across two reactions with the second from top paying symbol (300x for a 15+ cluster), and it stuck the doubling cube in there for 600x.

The Gargantoon added a bit more on to make the 709x.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Let's have a look at some stats! I asked Anna for my latest lifetime stats report on Dice Fusion and they came back as follows.

Dice Fusion 82392 £0.20 95.10%

So after 82,392 spins I'm basically bang on the T-RTP of the game, which is 95.2%. My latest rich run on it will definitely have helped there, yesterday in particular I cleared the better part of £450 profit (!) on 20p spins.

We have two previous data points for this as well:

And also this one:

Dice Fusion Prog

50356

£0.20

91.60%

So after a really dreadful start, it's slowly levelled out towards T-RTP over a decently sized spin sample, which given we're not talking about a crazy volatile game here (it tops out at ~3000x), is what we'd expect to see.

And with that, I shall continue onwards in my search for that elusive 3000x hit.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I knew that hitting one of the ~3000x top prizes on this game would not be a trivial undertaking, but at this moment in time I'd settle for just topping 1000x, which is still a feat I have yet to achieve. (So far the best it's done is 944x.)

I've been putting in a 5-6 hour shift every evening, and been trying to get 12 hour shifts in on Saturday and Sunday, and when you're plugging away at a 95.2% RTP game that much, and simply getting T-RTP, that's like, going to cost money.

I'm not into needing 3000x just to get back to level pegging since I started on this quest territory (yet!), but it's heading in that direction. (The insanely good run I had last Sunday, clearing around £450 profit on 20p spins, has given a welcome cushion against the negative swings that were to follow.)

Anyway, today was looking like being a fairly bruising encounter until this landed, one of the 'standard' 750x wins for a top tier 15+ cluster, plus the extras, round came in at 793x.

As always with 3Dice there are bonuses to take some of the sting out of this, the regular VIP match offers as well as whatever else might appear in the cashier, earlier this week they did a 100% match up to £100 on 5xD+B WR for 'Thanksgiving' (some American thing I believe) so I took that of course, although TBH the wagering requirements were largely immaterial since I'm literally not stopping for anything except 3000x.

Who said any of this stuff had to make sense eh? LOL!

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Today's shift was 14h46m.

From memory the best win I had for the session was around the 625x mark.

Start balance:

End balance.

However as it's a new month all the monthly achievements have reset, so at my VIP rank I get £25 on a 1xWR for going over 500 spins without a feature, so you can add £25 back onto that end balance. (Sort of, if we're using impeccable gambler's logic.)

As an aside, Dice Fusion basically can't do Deadspin (that's 20 back-to-back spins without a win), that'll net me another £25 so I'll need to do that on something else, Enchanted Spins is a good one for that.

Dice Fusion does however contribute to Shark, (that's another £25), and that Shark counter also, handily, tells us exactly how many spins I did on Dice Fusion today as it's the only game I've played - 5749.

(It's quite a slow game to play because of all the reaction things going on.)

Anyway, I'll pick up the ~3000x quest tomorrow, I suppose.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I'm still lumping away at this thing. Hours melt into days and then into weeks, deposits melt into oblivion, bonuses are taken and lost, wagering is irrelevant, all that matters is the 3000x, the 3000x, eventually I will land the 3000x and it will all be worth it. I don't even care how much it costs.

I've also just finished a full playthrough of the incredibly good Midnight Suns, so I'm getting other stuff done as well.

Anyway, here's a setup I haven't seen before. The eventual win isn't that amazing, but it really does show what a confected nonsense these 'ball out of the bag' cluster style games are.

You can see the setup, the perfect single bonus reaction to land everything down into place, and then pay 200x off the result. This also went onto a Gargantoon bonus round.

The interesting thing here is it putting two of the doubling cubes in there, which makes 4x on a win with the top paying 3Dice symbols. My read on this game is that to do the 3000x, it can do this with a 15 or better cluster, that pays 750x, stick two of the cubes in there which multiplies it by 4x and makes your 3000x.

This one finished up at 366x.

I don't think I'll bother with this again once I've got the 3000x, since what you're seeing on screen is pretty much completely detached from the game itself, and the game can pretend it's capable of doing anything. See also, Jammin' Jars.

If I weren't such a stubborn numbskull I'd have given up already, but my predilection for stupid quests like this was handsomely rewarded when I won the progressive on The Joker, so now I think I can pull the same shit off again.

As for Dice Fusion/Reactoonz, I can only assume they got a computer to create all the sequences that represent the balls out of the bag, and I'm curious as to how they got the computer to put so many 'I'm going to be a total wanker' sequences in there, like when it gets the Gargantoon-ometer to 124 out of the 125 required for a Gargantoon.