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My online slots videos (plus UK AWPs)

ChopleyIOM said:
Dual slot play, Red Hot Win Spin and Berrini's Fortune.

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I don't know if you mentioned it or spotted it, but in the free games if you get an extra spin and one of the 2+ scatters is the Red Hot symbol on reel 5, then it guarantees the next spin will be a winning one with the symbol you are on.
EDIT - Ah, yes you did mention it just after I posted this....

P.S. there was a player at bwin who got a huge win on this, over 3k x IIRC.

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ChopleyIOM said:
Was just about do post I do mention that during that one of the features when it happens :)

Is there any info anywhere as to the max pay on this?
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Yes, we did have the data sheet somewhere for when it was being developed, I'll see what it says. Obviously I can't plaster the full thing in public, but I can try and get the cogent facts most players would look for.

EDIT - There isn't one specified, as each individual 5OAK win is random and has its own odds which differ in the base game, mini-feature and main feature. So the multiplier you can achieve has no cap, and neither does the win but you would need an incredibly lucky run of events to say build up to a 3x multiplier and land say 54 or 81 ways of the 7 in one of the spins. But it's possible. I know in testing it produced wins of several thousand x stake, but cannot give a specific maximum. There's no built-in limit though.
@ChopleyIOM Your RTP is split (rounded up) 35% base game, 16% Reels of Fire and 46% Win Spin Feature.
Your overall hit rate is approx. 1/4 base game, 1/35 Reels of Fire and 1/120 Win Spin Feature so around 1/4 overall. :)
 
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Whenever I watch your videos, I get this type pop up on the side, these were my type of machines :D





I can't still remember the reels now, and probably haven't played one properly for 35+ years, watching those videos when he was getting a nudge I could instantly say how many he needed, before he did. Struggle to remember what I did last month, but can remember how many reel stops the grape is from the JPM on the first reel of a slot I first played almost 40 years ago!
 
ChopleyIOM said:
A bit of hacking to discover if Win Series even exists or not.....

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Have you ever considered that the RTP switches could have something to do with it? I know club machines on the old MPU3 or 4 would bar some features according to the setting, so on the top 88% for example, the 'Bar Steppa' wasn't possible, but the cash pots would always come out at about 80 quid on the 150 j/p version. if you set the pay-out switches below 80%, then you could get the stoppa features including skill reel for j/p BUT your cashpot would then always rise to 150 and not drop at 80. I know £5 j/p conversions with low RTP's (due to the lower 5 or 10p stakes) would ALWAYS prevent the 4-£5 gambles. I wonder if you guys have checked the that the win series is barred on ALL possible RTP settings?

The above is one massive reason why AWP's and club machines were in my view illegal and deceptive - never mind the rigged hi-lo, the fact the machines displayed features on the glass that on some RTP settings were IMPOSSIBLE to get put them in breach of numerous consumer and advertising/trades descriptions laws.

I still believe to this day that the UK allowing compensated and misleading club/AWP slots, almost unique in the civilized world, is and was the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on a country's citizens. And we had the hopeless BACTA who made petty rules while perpetuating the whole scam for decades.
 
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The stuff you mention there definitely happened in all sorts of various ways dunover, but in the case of Indiana Jones I honestly don't think it's the culprit. (As for compensated machines in general, they are a uniquely strange UK creation, on the one hand they have given rise to some of the most creative, skilful and challenging gambling games ever made, but on the other hand they've been vulnerable to all sorts of corruption, manipulation, trickery and general malfeasance.)

Over at a couple of dedicated fruit machine emulation forums, and indeed in comments left on my previous videos about Indiana Jones, not one single person has ever reported managing to land the Win Series feature on the machine, across all kinds of stake/prize settings, and a multitude of percentage settings. (Including from people who have owned the real machine for years, and state they have never managed to collect the feature.)

It looks like JPM coded the feature in but just didn't leave in any viable mechanism for it to be awarded, but by hacking the RAM location for the hi/lo reel, we did at least prove it exists and the machine can award it, and knows what to do with it, if you can survive the required number of ambushes.

EDIT- Plus I played this machine A LOT back in the day for real, and have thrashed it in the emulator over the years too, I've never had Win Series.
 
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ChopleyIOM said:
The stuff you mention there definitely happened in all sorts of various ways dunover, but in the case of Indiana Jones I honestly don't think it's the culprit. (As for compensated machines in general, they are a uniquely strange UK creation, on the one hand they have given rise to some of the most creative, skilful and challenging gambling games ever made, but on the other hand they've been vulnerable to all sorts of corruption, manipulation, trickery and general malfeasance.)

Over at a couple of dedicated fruit machine emulation forums, and indeed in comments left on my previous videos about Indiana Jones, not one single person has ever reported managing to land the Win Series feature on the machine, across all kinds of stake/prize settings, and a multitude of percentage settings. (Including from people who have owned the real machine for years, and state they have never managed to collect the feature.)

It looks like JPM coded the feature in but just didn't leave in any viable mechanism for it to be awarded, but by hacking the RAM location for the hi/lo reel, we did at least prove it exists and the machine can award it, and knows what to do with it, if you can survive the required number of ambushes.
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Even BLK4000? He was and is the lord of the fruit machine, a messiah if you will.
Buddy love is god
 
Unfortunately all the juicy code is kept server-side when it comes to online slots, pulling reel strips and stuff like that is generally as good as it gets from the client. Although IIRC we had the Finsoft-Spielo scandal at Betfred a few years ago (got myself a temporary ban from here for that :) ) when there was enough information client side to show that the demo version of the game was talking to a different (cheating) server to get its results and then switched to the proper (house edge) version of the game when you went into real play.

If any online slot source code ever gets out into the wild, that'll be an interesting dissection episode for sure, especially when it comes to stuff that's never been seen by a player but is alleged as being possible :)
 
Sad, sad loss. As well as the hard work for free he put in, he must've saved fortunes on behalf of AWP 'casualties' over the years who could get their buzz online at home instead of losing. I used the FME site I think about 15 years ago for a little while, IIRC correctly there was a 1k Thunderbirds there at the time which I had great fun forcing the JP from - eventually. RIP my unseen friend.
 
Thank you for your comments folks, and an update on this, because the story has ended up going in something of an uplifting direction, despite the sadness of Wizard's passing.

 
An emptiable UK Skill With Prizes game, we know of at least one person who was actually doing these in real life, which if you see what's entailed, is really quite impressive!

 
Everything that's right and wrong about compensated games, encapsulated perfectly in a single machine.

On the one hand this isn't a dirty 'cheat' style emptier, there's no corruption involved, and genuine player knowledge and skill are both required to consistently win out of the machine, making it highly entertaining and challenging to play.

On the other hand, a player of that skill level can leave behind a machine that is completely on its arse and will well and truly destroy whoever is unfortunate to come along and play it next.....



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From back in the days when Microgaming's 243-way stable of slots was considered pretty spicy and high volatility.....

Thunderstruck 2
Immortal Romance
The Finer Reels Of Life
Playboy

In quad-slot play in the soon to be killed off MG Viper download client.

 
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An in-depth look at two old UK AWPs on a £6 jackpot.

One machine in particular is very rare, cost hundreds of pounds for the guy to get hold of, and required a round trip of hundreds of miles! However, once obtained the ROMs and resources were made available for emulation.

 
Thanks psyman, I've not been doing as much content for the channel recently but if you have a look through the archives there's plenty of fruit machine stuff in there, and I've divided the channel up into four different playlists :)

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Some coverage of the latest RTP reductions.

Also a new slot I rather like, along with a decent paying feature I landed on it last week.

 
YES!!!! - This is the one I've been waiting for!

I made a small fortune from these back in the day, they easily kept me in spending money for at least 2 years, along with Lotta Luck another Barcrest.

I would love to have one of these machines at home.

Ps: About 18 years too late but you could comfortably go higher on '9' and lower on '4' and its rare it would lose ;) :p
 
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Jono777 said:
@ChopleyIOM - Try the '4' and ''9' on the emu and let me know if it works please?
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It hasn't behaved for me so far on those numbers, but I wasn't massively far from a factory reset on the machine when I made the video.

I've currently got autoplay lumping away at it to get it properly settled down and I'll have another go at it once it's had a few hundred quid through it.

Someone has left this comment on the video though :)

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Pretty much my experiences what they've posted

We 'perfected' the empty as we progressed.

To start we had hopper keys so could get an idea how close to the £125 full it was without even spending a single £1 or sometimes even ordering drinks

Travelled here, there and everywhere in search of these and in UK founds LOADS, Stafford, Shrewsbury and Chester being our main 'Gold Mines' lol. Once a week, usually after a weekend fill from what we referred to as the 'pay day addicts'

Watching your vid, I don't think it ever lost as much as your short sample, seriously, 4,5,6,7,8,9 would very rarely lose and after 5-6 JP's we also leart that 3 & 10 would do you, unless you now applied the reverse to those numbers also.

Another thing we found was to get rid of the change numbers as early as possible, having a '2' on one reel and say a '4' on another, we'd change the '4' most times it would drop a '1' for a no lose and quite often the '2' for the pair match.

I don't think many 'normal' players ever JP'ed these as the streak kicked in 7/10 after the 1st Jackpot.

Best I recall was one in a Weatherspoons which was really playing up, £15 in for a JP and taking the lot back to get the next one, all of a sudden it repeated and repeated and repeated, gosh knows how many times but it went totally empty and we even had a small IOU from there (which we've still not been to collect to this day :p)
 
Some excellent advice there Jono, it seems to go on a sliding scale of misery (from the machine's perspective!), whereby it'll start reversing on 4/9 and then on 3/10.

I've got mine 8% over percentage now after £1300 through from a factory reset, and can still consistently win on it. Once it's at 'minimum happiness' you're quite right, change numbers are largely a liability as it doesn't like you having them, so just get rid and try to get a PAIR BONUS or set up the hi/lo reels as you want them, and then reverse 3/10 as well as the mid numbers. 4/9 actually seem dodgier than 3/10 at this stage.

The best path is for the notes, using the NO-LOSE GAMBLE square to guarantee the last two notes, as five notes is the jackpot repeater.

Truly fascinating machine and so strange to see a compensated machine tie itself in knots like this one does.

Thanks for the extra tips!

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Thanks Jono I'll give that route a go :)

It seems to me that sometimes it's worth reversing on 3/10 and sometimes not, I know you said reverse of 3/10 'after 5 or 6 jackpots' but is there any way you can tell on the board if it'll reverse on a 3/10 or not, or is it just a case of taking a punt?

I'm definitely going to do a follow-on video for this machine thanks to your information here, the comments left on the video, and the chat a few of us had over at Desert Island Fruits (UK FME forums), and I really want to try and nail down what makes this machine tick for the video, because there's clearly more to it than I was aware of back in 2002 or so (and when I made the previous video!).
 
IMO the reversing of the 3/10 are more or less a "last resort"

I'd personally Hi-3 and Lo-10 as you normally would for 90% of the play.

More or less when you would be ready to leave the machine and you lose on 3/10 (or even 2/11) then I'd try one more board and this time reverse the 3/10.

To be fair in my experience reversing 3/10 was only viable when the machine was basically "on its arse" so we'd only ever do this once we were well up and the boards were taking longer.

Having had more time to reach the darkest depths of my aging memory, that session in the Weatherspoons where it repeated so many times is where it was showing "CL" (cash low) and I had a '3' which I felt was going to lose so I went low, got '1' which ensured the final jackpot which then led to that I.O.U I mentioned lol.

Mentioned the resurrections of this slot via your video to my mate who used to play them with me and he said this was one of if not the best empty we ever came across in almost 20 years!!!!
 
I wonder for you old fruit slotters, my mate has got the classic Indiana Jones machine.
But getting the streak on that seems almost impossible, is there any videos out there where someone has gotten the streak on the machine? I've found nothing.
 
CasinoNinja said:
I wonder for you old fruit slotters, my mate has got the classic Indiana Jones machine.
But getting the streak on that seems almost impossible, is there any videos out there where someone has gotten the streak on the machine? I've found nothing.
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Funny you should say that :)

TL : DW - No one has ever, ever, seen it in normal play, we ended up hacking values directly into the machine's RAM whilst it was running in the emulator to see if it had even been coded in.



 
New Rick & Morty slot recently released, not live at all casinos yet, I'm playing it at Unibet in this video.

Standard Blueprint style fare, but a decent theme and loads of features going on. Top win so far according to the built-in leaderboards is 1505x stake.

 
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A great old Maygay AWP is resurrected in the emulator, with the sound ROMs finally being found some 18 years after the technology the machine runs on was first emulated.

 

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