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Most bad hands in blackjack in a row!

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by rob3786, Aug 18, 2007.

    Aug 18, 2007
  1. rob3786

    rob3786 Dormant account

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    What is the most amount of bad hands you have had in blackjack in a row, which casino?
     
  2. Aug 19, 2007
  3. ThodorisK

    ThodorisK Most Annoying Forum Member of 2007

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    Those who cheat dont cheat that obvious (and easy to calculate the odds) way. They usually cheat by making you lose e.g. 3% more than the house edge. It is enough to wipe you out when you play a bonus or when the random number generator happend to produce winning streaks for you, so another program takes over and alters the outcomes. Or it may be in the program of the RNG itself.
     
  4. Aug 19, 2007
  5. ThodorisK

    ThodorisK Most Annoying Forum Member of 2007

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    And these losing streaks can and occur because of randomness, and they are bound to occur when you play many thousands of hands. So it is useless to observe this statistic. They only statistic you should observe is the money you lost over the total money wagered. And even then, you must have made many bets of about the same size to identify cheating... see for example my post here:http://www.casinomeister.com/forums...-betfair-voids-winnings-atp-tennis-match.html
     
  6. Aug 19, 2007
  7. loganberry

    loganberry Dormant account

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    Thodorisk,

    Why have you assumed that this post relates to casinos which cheat???

    I couldn't see that myself....just a request for the number of consecutive bad blackjack hands and the casino it occurred at. Which is a perfectly legimtate, non-sinister request...I think...:D
     
  8. Aug 19, 2007
  9. Amigo

    Amigo Dormant account

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    Sheffield
    I deposited 40 into a casino once. Flat bet 2 on pontoon and lost every hand till i went bust. Not sure exactly how many hands that was as i'm I probably doubled and split a few times
     
  10. Aug 19, 2007
  11. Mr_Zoidberg

    Mr_Zoidberg Dormant account PABrogue PABnononaccred PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
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    Location:
    The bar
    I lost 50GBP in 350 hands of 1GBP at VC Casino(chartwell). Anyone ever had positive variance at chartwell casino's?
     
  12. Aug 19, 2007
  13. blaqpoet

    blaqpoet Dormant account

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    Location:
    Johannesburg, South Africa
    I've never liked Chartwell casinos and I believe the software is rigged.

    Anyway, I've lost 14 hands in a row at Intercasino. I like Crypto software but that really pissed me off.
     
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2007
  14. Aug 19, 2007
  15. rob3786

    rob3786 Dormant account

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    Just been playing at bet365 had 10 winning hands in a row took some big gambles and they all paid off. Lets see how I get on.........

    Lost 12 in a row before drives me mad when its like this and that is with me playing a high performance game. I like to think that if I play the top of my game the casino will go bust but unfortunately didnt even get the option for this to happen the house was dealt 10's constantly I f*%\&** hate 10's.
     
  16. Aug 19, 2007
  17. ThodorisK

    ThodorisK Most Annoying Forum Member of 2007

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    Yes, you are right about VC and Chartwell. Check this out:
    http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/online-casinos/14540-vc-casino-fair-black-jack.html
    Why on earth are they now accredited at casinomeister?
    I am playing the monthly bonus at VC right now, and I am hesitating to continue. I will post the stats implying or prooving I was cheated soon in a thread, but there is no need. Read what happened to others.

    Yes, I knew this thread is not appropriate to discuss cheating. I will not continue it. I only explained why losing streaks (with no winning bets in between) are by themselves useless in identifiying cheating, as this could be the expected phenomenon which is bound to occur when many thousands of hands have been played. It is not irrelevant. When one has such streaks he immediatelly thinks whether he is being cheated.
     
  18. Aug 19, 2007
  19. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

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    Get a grip guys! He was only interested in seeing how many consecutive losses people have had while playing blackjack, not trying to call any casino out for cheating.
     
  20. Aug 20, 2007
  21. Zoozie

    Zoozie Ueber Meister CAG PABnonaccred

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    I have not played that much BJ the last 2 years though, but here are recent
    events:

    12 consecutive losses in BJ (Intercasino).

    Also:
    Dealer gets BJ 5 times in a row. I do not know how rare this is.
    4 times was with ace up and 1 time with face card. It was at Boss Media, but I am sure it is fair. Since I was playing 3 hands at a time, it really did hurt.

    Zoozie
     
  22. Aug 20, 2007
  23. Zoozie

    Zoozie Ueber Meister CAG PABnonaccred

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    Denmark
    And today:
    Losing 11 splits in a row on Wagerworks European single hand BJ. I am still breaking even by a few bets, but it is crazy dealer did not bust once. I fact these 9 splits are the only splits today.

    Edit:I was only 9 splits in a row and I won the next split! So the cycle stopped after 9.
     
  24. Aug 20, 2007
  25. aka23

    aka23 Dormant account

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    The chance of a single dealer BJ is 8/169 with infinite decks (and approximately the same with multi-deck in general). The chance of 5 BJs in a row is ~(8/169)^5 = 1 in 4.2 million . Or did you mean that the past 5 insurance bets were winners, but there were many other non-BJ hands in between? That's more reasonable and has a good chance of occurring when playing several thousand hands.
     
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2007
  26. Aug 20, 2007
  27. bpb

    bpb Banned User - repeated violations of rule 1.14 (tr PABnorogue PABnonaccred

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    12 consecutive losses treating pushes as non-events.

    Probably 6 or 7 in a row if you count pushes
     
  28. Aug 20, 2007
  29. Zoozie

    Zoozie Ueber Meister CAG PABnonaccred

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    Yup, that is what happened. Bu I think you have to replace ^5 by ^4 making it much smaller. But it was over a session and not from a defined starting point.
    You could say the first BJ was the starting point. And then it is only 1 to 25K

    It was Boss Media - first time I played it i years. I was rare, but I trust the software. I have taken 2 more bonuses since the last months and been ahead in all of them at the end. Maybe I even linked from your site AKA, since I was looking there when I found the bonus. It was at casino.net, but no money for you since I been farming them.

    I have not played much BJ for 3 years, but I still though it was quite remarkable.

    However I have seen way more insane stuff in the last 3 years playing VP almost every day. Maybe we should start a thread about VP :)

    It was signup bonus. 800 Euro deposit, 200 euro bonus. I ended at 1042 euro after even losing some trying their slots.
     
  30. Aug 20, 2007
  31. ThodorisK

    ThodorisK Most Annoying Forum Member of 2007

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    You trust boss media?
    :lolup:
    How much do you trust them?
     
  32. Aug 20, 2007
  33. aka23

    aka23 Dormant account

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    Regarding ^5 or ^4, it depends on how you define things. If you play 4.2 million hands (=^5), then you are expected to see 1 streak of 5 sequential BJs. If a BJ is drawn, then there is a 1 in 200,000 (=^4) chance of getting 4 more to complete the 5 in a row.

    I also did well at casino.net. I must have told the story more than a dozen times... I gained ~$1300 using incorrect BJ strategy, which was my first experience with online gambling. I continued playing there until I was bonus banned. The rest of my play fell near expectations.
     
  34. Aug 20, 2007
  35. ThodorisK

    ThodorisK Most Annoying Forum Member of 2007

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    I know I said too that the more the number the hands played the more the probability of meeting a large number of consecutive losses or wins. BUT THAT ASSUMING THAT the random number generators produce truly random sequences of outcomes. But it is impossible for a random number generator to produce absolutelly random sequences of outcomes. Why? Exactly this why is a discovery of mine that for the moment I will keep secret.
     
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2007
  36. Aug 21, 2007
  37. Zoozie

    Zoozie Ueber Meister CAG PABnonaccred

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    Very amazing streak then. I myself managed to get BJ on all 3 hands there - uploaded it in the winners screenshot thread. I played 12000 hands against there against dealers about 4000 hands.

    How many reload bonuses did you take before banned?
     
  38. Aug 21, 2007
  39. aka23

    aka23 Dormant account

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    I was bonus banned 2-3 months after I signed up. This may not be a typical result because of the size of my gain. The email I received is below:

    "Thank you for contacting Casino.net support.

    You haven't received any bonus since your account has been set as "Bonus abuser". For further information I would like to refer you to the manager. You can contact the manager at This email is not visible to you..

    If you have any further questions, don't hesitate to contact us again."
     
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