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MonacoAces Bad Experience

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Anyone play here recently and suffered error messages while playing games? MicroGaming quickfire games seemed the worst, lagging and then timing out. Six hours of logging in/out and refreshing screens reminded me of SlotsMagic :lolup:

What made it worse was winning £1792 on a Immortal Romance bonus only to discover not logged in and was playing in demo mode. (don't you just hate that) :eek:

Our withdrawal has now hit a brick-wall due to a e-mail problem. Are they based in the UK? English seems to be the second language of the telephone support at weekends.
 
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No response to e-mails sent to them today and manager didn't call back. Now they have given me another customers personal/banking information and when trying to report the data breach 'I have to call back in a minute'

Strangely when asking the telephone representative what country he was in (as yet again first language clearly wasn't English) told 'I'm not allowed to tell you' - Brilliant!

These guys make a dodgy RTG casino look good.
 
I also was unimpressed by this casino.

Signed up, two deposits of $200 with a 100% match on each, so two sessions with $400 bankroll. Both gone in less than an hour betting conservatively.

$800 wagered in total on multiple games, hit ONE free games feature in total on Playboy at $1.80 stake on the x5 multiplier, returned a massive $2.80!!

Earlier on I started playing Lucky Witches, which after having no luck on any other slots, finally started to show some potential. Started getting some small wins, and suddenly, I start getting an error message and booted out of the game. Tried restarting it numerous times, cleared cookies etc, but continued to have the same issue after a few spins.

Funnily enough it was only happening on this slot, the only one I played that showed some winning potential. Contacted support who told me they fixed the issue and to try again. I did this late on in my session, only to then lose the lot on the slot and ultimately having the same error occur towards the end of play.

Really disappointed by the experience, and I have never burnt through two consecutive bankrolls of that size at lower stakes, that quickly, at any casino EVER! Sent a PM to the rep here, but have yet to get a response. Will update you once, or if, I do.
 
An update... the casino manager is now looking into the report of a data breach / irregular gameplay and logouts.

With the Isle of Man Gambling Supervision Commission made aware of the situation as well, hopefully a swift outcome :thumbsup:
 
See my post in the MonacoAces BBF thread. You can't even set a deposit limit via live chat, I was told by 'George' that they cannot place such a measure, even manually. There are absolutely no responsible gaming settings you can self-activate. I played 50 there and then permanently closed my account. NO site I've ever played has refused to impose a deposit limit if I choose to do so, if not available in the self-set format.
 
I also was unimpressed by this casino.

Signed up, two deposits of $200 with a 100% match on each, so two sessions with $400 bankroll. Both gone in less than an hour betting conservatively.

$800 wagered in total on multiple games, hit ONE free games feature in total on Playboy at $1.80 stake on the x5 multiplier, returned a massive $2.80!!

Earlier on I started playing Lucky Witches, which after having no luck on any other slots, finally started to show some potential. Started getting some small wins, and suddenly, I start getting an error message and booted out of the game. Tried restarting it numerous times, cleared cookies etc, but continued to have the same issue after a few spins.

Funnily enough it was only happening on this slot, the only one I played that showed some winning potential. Contacted support who told me they fixed the issue and to try again. I did this late on in my session, only to then lose the lot on the slot and ultimately having the same error occur towards the end of play.

Really disappointed by the experience, and I have never burnt through two consecutive bankrolls of that size at lower stakes, that quickly, at any casino EVER! Sent a PM to the rep here, but have yet to get a response. Will update you once, or if, I do.

With all due respect, winning/losing on random games is hardly a valid reason to complain about a casino. They don't have anything to do with how the games perform for you. If we only like casinos we win at, we'd like very few...
I did however change game from TSII to BDBA and like Nicola played a couple of spins and realized I was in 'fun' mode - yet I was still logged in on the main page! Same old stupid Quickfire lag before a winning spin.
 
Really scary you were given another customers banking details. You wouldn't want your own banking information given out to the wrong person. It's really the ultimate breach of trust. You'd hope to be notified if you were that customer.
 
I have loss much more at other casinos and not complained, trust me, lol. It was more the overall experience was poor, and the losing so quickly was an added bonus. My comments were more to outline that the only slot that showed potential was the one to constantly shut down with errors. This was to support the ops claim if anyone was experiencing the same thing. I also had to contact and wait a substantial time to have CS credit my bonuses which weren't done automatically on depositing. I also had a suspected very low rtp, which I know is out of their hands, but when I asked for this stat from CS, I'm now heading into day 4 without an answer. Imagine my concern was really important like having my banking details given out to a stranger! I'd hope a response from CS would be quicker.

When my rtp is obviously ultra low, and the only game continuously shutting down is the only one showing any positive signs during a losing streak, whether random coincidence or not, I'm going to throw out a complaint. Whether anyone actually cares or listens, is out of my control, lol.

I get what your saying, but just venting most the time, and it would seem MA is not on a great run overall at the moment considering the collective complaints.
 
I have loss much more at other casinos and not complained, trust me, lol. It was more the overall experience was poor, and the losing so quickly was an added bonus. My comments were more to outline that the only slot that showed potential was the one to constantly shut down with errors. This was to support the ops claim if anyone was experiencing the same thing. I also had to contact and wait a substantial time to have CS credit my bonuses which weren't done automatically on depositing. I also had a suspected very low rtp, which I know is out of their hands, but when I asked for this stat from CS, I'm now heading into day 4 without an answer. Imagine my concern was really important like having my banking details given out to a stranger! I'd hope a response from CS would be quicker.

When my rtp is obviously ultra low, and the only game continuously shutting down is the only one showing any positive signs during a losing streak, whether random coincidence or not, I'm going to throw out a complaint. Whether anyone actually cares or listens, is out of my control, lol.

I get what your saying, but just venting most the time, and it would seem MA is not on a great run overall at the moment considering the collective complaints.

Yes, I forgot to mention that I didn't get the SUB without going on chat and asking, common-sense it's either automatic OR preferably add-a-code yourself in the first deposit stage. I don't recommend the site at all.
 
No response to e-mails sent to them today and manager didn't call back. Now they have given me another customers personal/banking information and when trying to report the data breach 'I have to call back in a minute'

Strangely when asking the telephone representative what country he was in (as yet again first language clearly wasn't English) told 'I'm not allowed to tell you' - Brilliant!

These guys make a dodgy RTG casino look good.

Stupidity at it's finest. If a player was getting worried before, they are now certain they are playing at a dodgy outfit (even when they are not). Since the support has access to your data, this is a very important question, and it may even be against EU law to refuse to disclose in which country such sensitive data is being processed.

Speaking English badly is a dead giveaway to a UK customer that they are dealing with an offshore call centre, so the cat is already out of the bag with regards to location. When call centres refuse to say where they are based, it is usually seen as a warning sign that there might be something underhand going on. Normally, this is associated with the cold callers claiming to have records that show you are owed a specific sum from your bank due to a PPI misspelling, or asking you to take part in a fake survey from a company with a generic but fictitious name like "The British consumer awareness association" designed to trick the recipient into believing it to be a genuine survey. Usually, asking them questions like "how did you get this data" or "where are you based" has them running for cover, giving vague replies or saying they can't reveal the information. Keep asking and they will hang up, and sometimes even take you off their sucker list if you can appear to know too much about what they are really up to and are prepared to take the matter further.

In this case, I would guess that this call centre is somewhere in Eastern Europe, quite possibly in one of the new EU member states, so EU data laws would apply. They may not be fluent in English, but one would expect them to be fluent in data protection procedures, and not give out other people's data to callers.

They have managed to achieve accreditation, but lack of care and transparency by one member of CS staff can ruin it, leaving one player at least feeling that accreditation is not worth as much as it ought to be.
 
Finally got a response from both support and the MA rep.

Wow, where to start! Support confirmed what I thought, and my RTP was 49% over a total $800 balance and wagered.

The rep sent me a pm, which I can only describe as laughable and a little insulting. First he told me that it's just too hard to calculate the exact RTP for my session, although his support team already confirmed this. He then went into a long rant into the winning and losing customary speech, which I found very insulting after I explained to them prior, that I was familiar with playing and losing.

Then to top it off, he advised me that the technical department found no evidence of the technical difficulties I described, so basically calling me a liar, and it must have all been a figment of my imagination. This is after I spoke to live chat at the time of the errors, gave them the exact error message, and waited approximately 20 minutes before they advised me to try the game again as they're sure they fixed it. I did this, and the errors continued. So considering the rep found no evidence, his support team worked on, and supposedly fixed, an imaginary technical issue for 20 minutes? Another insulting revelation in my opinion.

Maybe we expect too much from some casinos because of the excellent service we get from some others on this site. However, the all round experience, coupled with the response from this mob, has equated to the worse experience I have ever had, and they will never see another cent from me, nor will I ever recommend them considering the alternatives out there. Account closed.

And to the rep, I'm well aware of how gambling works, and the concept of winning and losing. I wonder if you understand the concept of customer service, and approaching players with a certain level of respect? Maybe look to Leovegas for inspiration, as I loss just the same amount at their casino, yet I have no major complaints as there customer service is second to none, and they don't resort to implying the customer is nothing more than a sore loser and delusional.

Good luck, but you'll lose around 10 players from my network of friends, and judging by other complaints here, I'm sure many more to come. Respect is a two way street, and it would seem your car just stalled heading down a one way short cut. No guess as to who will now get my business.
 
I'm still waiting for a response to my letter of complaint sent in on Saturday. They have acknowledged receiving it and stated it has been passed to a manager.

Good luck with that, lol.

Hopefully by posting my concerns, the rep will treat yours much better, and with a higher level of due care. If my poor experience can help one person, I'll be happy.

Good luck. ;-)
 
Sent support a request to have my account closed.

Just received an email back stating my account is now closed 'permanently'.

Not that I would ever return anyway, but can they close your account 'permanently' for no reason if this is not specifically requested by the customer?

I was at no time rude or disrespectful to the support team I might add.

Definitely a one of a kind site, lol.
 
Finally got a response from both support and the MA rep.

Wow, where to start! Support confirmed what I thought, and my RTP was 49% over a total $800 balance and wagered.

The rep sent me a pm, which I can only describe as laughable and a little insulting. First he told me that it's just too hard to calculate the exact RTP for my session, although his support team already confirmed this. He then went into a long rant into the winning and losing customary speech, which I found very insulting after I explained to them prior, that I was familiar with playing and losing.

Then to top it off, he advised me that the technical department found no evidence of the technical difficulties I described, so basically calling me a liar, and it must have all been a figment of my imagination. This is after I spoke to live chat at the time of the errors, gave them the exact error message, and waited approximately 20 minutes before they advised me to try the game again as they're sure they fixed it. I did this, and the errors continued. So considering the rep found no evidence, his support team worked on, and supposedly fixed, an imaginary technical issue for 20 minutes? Another insulting revelation in my opinion.

Maybe we expect too much from some casinos because of the excellent service we get from some others on this site. However, the all round experience, coupled with the response from this mob, has equated to the worse experience I have ever had, and they will never see another cent from me, nor will I ever recommend them considering the alternatives out there. Account closed.

And to the rep, I'm well aware of how gambling works, and the concept of winning and losing. I wonder if you understand the concept of customer service, and approaching players with a certain level of respect? Maybe look to Leovegas for inspiration, as I loss just the same amount at their casino, yet I have no major complaints as there customer service is second to none, and they don't resort to implying the customer is nothing more than a sore loser and delusional.

Good luck, but you'll lose around 10 players from my network of friends, and judging by other complaints here, I'm sure many more to come. Respect is a two way street, and it would seem your car just stalled heading down a one way short cut. No guess as to who will now get my business.

Hi all,

I will definitely come back to all your posts but on this one I just have to respond ASAP. Well I have not called you a liar at any time but now I will have to. I am not sure what Casino you belong to and if this is your normal way of trying to destroy other brands or if you are just a sour player who lost his money.
I wonder if all has been so horrible why you made a second deposit ever? Why would you keep on playing at Monaco Aces, why would you not Cash out at the moment that all these Errors happened?
To be honest on all threads you will see that we have always accepted any kind of critics and we always improved were improvement was required but this is just a sad and sour player who lost his money and now is trying by asking me on PM to get some money back as he lost it all in short time. You PM me asking for money back but too twice our 100% Bonus. So after having given you 400$ you come and ask for more? What you want me to do? Gift you an other 200$. Well sorry, you will understand that we also have some limits.
All I can recommend you is stop playing at any Casino and safe your money as if you will shitstorm every Casino that won´t give you back any of your losses you will earlier or later be spotted on here.
We wish you all best,
MA
 
Hi all,

I will definitely come back to all your posts but on this one I just have to respond ASAP. Well I have not called you a liar at any time but now I will have to. I am not sure what Casino you belong to and if this is your normal way of trying to destroy other brands or if you are just a sour player who lost his money.
I wonder if all has been so horrible why you made a second deposit ever? Why would you keep on playing at Monaco Aces, why would you not Cash out at the moment that all these Errors happened?
To be honest on all threads you will see that we have always accepted any kind of critics and we always improved were improvement was required but this is just a sad and sour player who lost his money and now is trying by asking me on PM to get some money back as he lost it all in short time. You PM me asking for money back but too twice our 100% Bonus. So after having given you 400$ you come and ask for more? What you want me to do? Gift you an other 200$. Well sorry, you will understand that we also have some limits.
All I can recommend you is stop playing at any Casino and safe your money as if you will shitstorm every Casino that won´t give you back any of your losses you will earlier or later be spotted on here.
We wish you all best,
MA

Nice try MA. I'm not sour, and I lose hundreds per week at multiple casinos. I also have a great relationship with many reps here. Being a player's forum, I have a right to express my experiences, and I challenge you to prove anything I have said as being a lie. I didn't say you called me a liar, however, telling me you had no evidence that I experienced technical difficulties, when all you had to do was pull the live chat from that night, is essentially saying to me you don't believe I had these issues.

And to correct your other false accusation. I didn't pm you asking for my money back, and I can well afford the deposits I made with you. In fact after the terrible experience I had with you, I went to leovegas and videoslots and made over $300 worth of deposits at each. Hardly a man that needs to beg for his money back? My pm to you merely asked if you offer comp bonuses to players who have had a bad session with a low rtp. This is not an unusual practice, and most casinos are happy to comply. I also only asked you as your site states on the bonus page that you offer comp bonuses to losing players. Don't then try to make it sound like I begged you for money back that I couldn't afford to lose, when you have this information on your site, saying you offer comps. A simple no would suffice.

I don't work for any casino, and am strictly a high depositing player at a handful of favorites. Your behavior proves you don't need me to try to make your casino look bad. I also didn't tell these other disgruntled players to post their complaints.

I have a right to offer my opinion and experiences with you, as you have a right to defend yourself. But starting to make false claims and name calling, doesn't reflect well for you. Please feel free to post the pms, unedited, so we can see this so called begging I did. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Just read your comments again, and can't believe you have behaved in this manner as a rep! If I owned the casino you work at, you could expect some stern words in how to represent my business. Unbelievable!
 
I know you can have bad sessions at even the most popular casinos, but my experiences with playing unpopular casinos just have not been good. Yes this is tinfoil hat talk but Monaco is ranked over 1 million compared to say 32red at 6,000 and Guts ~50k. The ranking does give some indication of how may players there are and if there aren't many, call me crazy but I just don't see my having a high chance of winning if there are no funds to draw from. This is only from my personal experiences so who knows maybe some other players will be more lucky.
 
Nice try MA. I'm not sour, and I lose hundreds per week at multiple casinos. I also have a great relationship with many reps here. Being a player's forum, I have a right to express my experiences, and I challenge you to prove anything I have said as being a lie. I didn't say you called me a liar, however, telling me you had no evidence that I experienced technical difficulties, when all you had to do was pull the live chat from that night, is essentially saying to me you don't believe I had these issues.

And to correct your other false accusation. I didn't pm you asking for my money back, and I can well afford the deposits I made with you. In fact after the terrible experience I had with you, I went to leovegas and videoslots and made over $300 worth of deposits at each. Hardly a man that needs to beg for his money back? My pm to you merely asked if you offer comp bonuses to players who have had a bad session with a low rtp. This is not an unusual practice, and most casinos are happy to comply. I also only asked you as your site states on the bonus page that you offer comp bonuses to losing players. Don't then try to make it sound like I begged you for money back that I couldn't afford to lose, when you have this information on your site, saying you offer comps. A simple no would suffice.

I don't work for any casino, and am strictly a high depositing player at a handful of favorites. Your behavior proves you don't need me to try to make your casino look bad. I also didn't tell these other disgruntled players to post their complaints.

I have a right to offer my opinion and experiences with you, as you have a right to defend yourself. But starting to make false claims and name calling, doesn't reflect well for you. Please feel free to post the pms, unedited, so we can see this so called begging I did. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Just read your comments again, and can't believe you have behaved in this manner as a rep! If I owned the casino you work at, you could expect some stern words in how to represent my business. Unbelievable!

Azurri,
I fully respect your opinion and of course you have all the rights to expose your opinion in this Forum but it is the way how you lay out things.
As mentioned we wish you all the best at other Casinos.
MA
PS I doubt we have to be ashamed for anything we have hundreds of players every month who seem not to have any issues and are more then happy coming back again and again. Sorry if your experience has not been good at our site but I doubt on a business like this any Casino will have a 100% happy customer data base. We are trying very hard to listen to players experience and make changes where they are required so I doubt we really need to be ashamed.
 
Well now they can rank number 1 for the most bizarre rep interaction I have ever experienced, and the only negative rep experience I have had since joining this site, lol. Congrats MA.
 
Nice try MA. I'm not sour, and I lose hundreds per week at multiple casinos. I also have a great relationship with many reps here. Being a player's forum, I have a right to express my experiences, and I challenge you to prove anything I have said as being a lie. I didn't say you called me a liar, however, telling me you had no evidence that I experienced technical difficulties, when all you had to do was pull the live chat from that night, is essentially saying to me you don't believe I had these issues.

And to correct your other false accusation. I didn't pm you asking for my money back, and I can well afford the deposits I made with you. In fact after the terrible experience I had with you, I went to leovegas and videoslots and made over $300 worth of deposits at each. Hardly a man that needs to beg for his money back? My pm to you merely asked if you offer comp bonuses to players who have had a bad session with a low rtp. This is not an unusual practice, and most casinos are happy to comply. I also only asked you as your site states on the bonus page that you offer comp bonuses to losing players. Don't then try to make it sound like I begged you for money back that I couldn't afford to lose, when you have this information on your site, saying you offer comps. A simple no would suffice.

I don't work for any casino, and am strictly a high depositing player at a handful of favorites. Your behavior proves you don't need me to try to make your casino look bad. I also didn't tell these other disgruntled players to post their complaints.

I have a right to offer my opinion and experiences with you, as you have a right to defend yourself. But starting to make false claims and name calling, doesn't reflect well for you. Please feel free to post the pms, unedited, so we can see this so called begging I did. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Just read your comments again, and can't believe you have behaved in this manner as a rep! If I owned the casino you work at, you could expect some stern words in how to represent my business. Unbelievable!

It is clear that despite it being an IOM licenced casino based in the British Isles that those behind it, or at least CS and reps do not have English as a first language which is unique in my knowledge regarding IOM/Alderney/UKGC licensed sites.
This needs bearing in mind for those signing up there. And may explain the issues between Azzuri and the rep.
 
Azurri,
I fully respect your opinion and of course you have all the rights to expose your opinion in this Forum but it is the way how you lay out things.
As mentioned we wish you all the best at other Casinos.
MA
PS I doubt we have to be ashamed for anything we have hundreds of players every month who seem not to have any issues and are more then happy coming back again and again. Sorry if your experience has not been good at our site but I doubt on a business like this any Casino will have a 100% happy customer data base. We are trying very hard to listen to players experience and make changes were they are required so I doubt we really need to be ashamed.

I didn't say MA should be ashamed, I said you personally should be ashamed of your behavior as a representative of a casino. Your behavior has been a total contradiction to everything you just stated you stand for above. I stand by my comments, and politely agree to disagree with every word that comes out of your mouth from here on in. I am appalled and disgusted by your interaction, and can only hope you have a great salvage plan to retain customers after they see the behavior you have directed at me. Good luck, and good riddance.
 
It is clear that despite it being an IOM licenced casino based in the British Isles that those behind it, or at least CS and reps do not have English as a first language which is unique in my knowledge regarding IOM/Alderney/UKGC licensed sites.
This needs bearing in mind for those signing up there. And may explain the issues between Azzuri and the rep.
First I was totally surprised (reading this thread for the first time today) that they have MG games! :eek2:
I thought Monaco Aces was a Viaden only casino.
Viaden AFAIK is a Russian (or other similar eastern European country) based software provider, so my bet is the native language comes from that part of the world.

KK
 
First I was totally surprised (reading this thread for the first time today) that they have MG games! :eek2:
I thought Monaco Aces was a Viaden only casino.
Viaden AFAIK is a Russian (or other similar eastern European country) based software provider, so my bet is the native language comes from that part of the world.

KK

Thanks KK, do you think I should be concerned they have my credit card details, given the breach of confidentiality that Nicola experienced?
 
they have my debit card details but it has now expired! so no problems. I trust this site though so never had any worries.
when I asked when they were getting neteller, I was told if you want to use neteller, you will be waiting a long time, that's what the c/s said to me.
the only gripe I had here was no wr tracker, so it was pen and paper time lol. but I had no problems playing the games, and no problems with the site or c/s. I didn't do my 2nd deposit bonus only because of no wr tracker, couldn't be bothered with the pen and paper lark..
 
I think everyone needs to chill out a little here. What I understand is that there may have been some communication problems, and the resulting dissatisfaction - but no need to get aggressive.

@Azzuri - if someone can't confirm your findings/experience, it doesn't equate to them calling you a liar. That's a bit rich. My suggestion would be to not stress out so much. The casino rep here is German, and the casino has mostly been focused on the European market.

They have a relatively high score at CM (8.8) due to their licensing jurisdiction and payout times to include flushing.
https://www.casinomeister.com/accredited-casinos/

What concerns me in the thread is the report of their inability to provide deposit limits. They should have something like this in place - in fact the IOM jurisdiction requires this I'm pretty sure. If someone could detail this a bit more, I'd appreciate it.
 
I think everyone needs to chill out a little here. What I understand is that there may have been some communication problems, and the resulting dissatisfaction - but no need to get aggressive.

@Azzuri - if someone can't confirm your findings/experience, it doesn't equate to them calling you a liar. That's a bit rich. My suggestion would be to not stress out so much. The casino rep here is German, and the casino has mostly been focused on the European market.

They have a relatively high score at CM (8.8) due to their licensing jurisdiction and payout times to include flushing.
https://www.casinomeister.com/accredited-casinos/

What concerns me in the thread is the report of their inability to provide deposit limits. They should have something like this in place - in fact the IOM jurisdiction requires this I'm pretty sure. If someone could detail this a bit more, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks Brian,

in regards to the deposit limits we are working on it but as it is a big software programing change we can´t have it in place in just a week. We had critics earlier and we took note of them. the programers are working on it and I hope to be able to announce ASAP that we will have deposit limits. It is not as easy as just to say that somebody is only allowed to deposit 200€ per month but what happens is he wins 1000 cashes out and then he says I want to deposit a little more this month as I just won money and I am sure I will keep on winning. In this case I would have to say no, which is fine to me but with Viaden we had the case that we got blamed by a player of not allowing him to keep on playing meanwhile he was winning. so everything needs to be worked out fine, everything needs to be checked with the legislation and the programers need to include the feature into the software.
We are working on a manual option for the meantime but this also requires some time and might not be a safe way for a player.
Anyway I will be back announcing once the deposit limits are up and running.

PS there is a safety point once a player has deposited more then 3000 in one month, we do contact the player ask for his documentation and we do have to send these to the IOM Gambling commission as well as money laundering department. At this stage they check if a player appears as gambling addicted on their database and in case he does we will have to refund his money (the not lost money up to that time) or in case he has lost everything, we will have to block his account. I know 3000 is a lot of money but it is a reasonable point and a security that people do not lose their house with us in one single month.
 
Thanks Brian,

in regards to the deposit limits we are working on it but as it is a big software programing change we can´t have it in place in just a week. We had critics earlier and we took note of them. the programers are working on it and I hope to be able to announce ASAP that we will have deposit limits. It is not as easy as just to say that somebody is only allowed to deposit 200€ per month but what happens is he wins 1000 cashes out and then he says I want to deposit a little more this month as I just won money and I am sure I will keep on winning. In this case I would have to say no, which is fine to me but with Viaden we had the case that we got blamed by a player of not allowing him to keep on playing meanwhile he was winning. so everything needs to be worked out fine, everything needs to be checked with the legislation and the programers need to include the feature into the software.
We are working on a manual option for the meantime but this also requires some time and might not be a safe way for a player.
Anyway I will be back announcing once the deposit limits are up and running.

PS there is a safety point once a player has deposited more then 3000 in one month, we do contact the player ask for his documentation and we do have to send these to the IOM Gambling commission as well as money laundering department. At this stage they check if a player appears as gambling addicted on their database and in case he does we will have to refund his money (the not lost money up to that time) or in case he has lost everything, we will have to block his account. I know 3000 is a lot of money but it is a reasonable point and a security that people do not lose their house with us in one single month.

hi from where im sitting & main stream , i would of thought you could set up 24hour or 48 hours pending period for change of monthly set up as which alot can do this way they would have to contact you guys firstly & then it wouldnt be so heated either just in case they was on a tilt & like you said if they did have a large win then they could withdraw & if they wanted to play more as youve pointed out can do after time period )
 
I think everyone needs to chill out a little here. What I understand is that there may have been some communication problems, and the resulting dissatisfaction - but no need to get aggressive.

@Azzuri - if someone can't confirm your findings/experience, it doesn't equate to them calling you a liar. That's a bit rich. My suggestion would be to not stress out so much. The casino rep here is German, and the casino has mostly been focused on the European market.

They have a relatively high score at CM (8.8) due to their licensing jurisdiction and payout times to include flushing.
https://www.casinomeister.com/accredited-casinos/

What concerns me in the thread is the report of their inability to provide deposit limits. They should have something like this in place - in fact the IOM jurisdiction requires this I'm pretty sure. If someone could detail this a bit more, I'd appreciate it.

BTW Love the new avatar pic Bryan:p
 
Thanks Brian,

in regards to the deposit limits we are working on it but as it is a big software programing change we can´t have it in place in just a week. We had critics earlier and we took note of them. the programers are working on it and I hope to be able to announce ASAP that we will have deposit limits. It is not as easy as just to say that somebody is only allowed to deposit 200€ per month but what happens is he wins 1000 cashes out and then he says I want to deposit a little more this month as I just won money and I am sure I will keep on winning. In this case I would have to say no, which is fine to me but with Viaden we had the case that we got blamed by a player of not allowing him to keep on playing meanwhile he was winning. so everything needs to be worked out fine, everything needs to be checked with the legislation and the programers need to include the feature into the software. We are working on a manual option for the meantime but this also requires some time and might not be a safe way for a player.
Anyway I will be back announcing once the deposit limits are up and running.

PS there is a safety point once a player has deposited more then 3000 in one month, we do contact the player ask for his documentation and we do have to send these to the IOM Gambling commission as well as money laundering department. At this stage they check if a player appears as gambling addicted on their database and in case he does we will have to refund his money (the not lost money up to that time) or in case he has lost everything, we will have to block his account. I know 3000 is a lot of money but it is a reasonable point and a security that people do not lose their house with us in one single month.

Sorry, I don't buy that. In your example the player 'winning' and cashing out his 1,000 would simply either leave something in his account to play on with OR if the 1,000 is already cashed out then he can change his DL and wait for the 24hr. cool-off period to expire, or 72 hrs. or 7-days which tend to be the time-spans casinos use. If he can't wait 24hrs. then he's likely a compulsive gambler and wouldn't have cashed out the 1,000 anyway.

Effectively you are saying any player with no previous history with MA and a problem could join your site and spunk 3k before questions are asked - you could land in hot water with the IOM jurisdiction if that player lost and then claimed he couldn't stop as you provided no opportunity to limit his spending. You may find yourselves being forced to refund his losses, or censured for poor RG provision.

Personally I believe your accreditation should be suspended until satisfactory RG options are in place. Sorry, but this isn't good enough. :(
 
I think everyone needs to chill out a little here. What I understand is that there may have been some communication problems, and the resulting dissatisfaction - but no need to get aggressive.

@Azzuri - if someone can't confirm your findings/experience, it doesn't equate to them calling you a liar. That's a bit rich. My suggestion would be to not stress out so much. The casino rep here is German, and the casino has mostly been focused on the European market.

They have a relatively high score at CM (8.8) due to their licensing jurisdiction and payout times to include flushing.
https://www.casinomeister.com/accredited-casinos/

What concerns me in the thread is the report of their inability to provide deposit limits. They should have something like this in place - in fact the IOM jurisdiction requires this I'm pretty sure. If someone could detail this a bit more, I'd appreciate it.

Point taken Bryan. This will be my last post here, although I will add that Nicola's claims that another customers banking details were given to her, should also be a large cause for concern along with the deposit limit issue. My account has been 'permanently' closed anyway, leaving me no reason to comment further. ;)
 
Point taken Bryan. This will be my last post here, although I will add that Nicola's claims that another customers banking details were given to her, should also be a large cause for concern along with the deposit limit issue. My account has been 'permanently' closed anyway, leaving me no reason to comment further. ;)

So has mine. I won't go back, to be honest I just don't have a good feeling about the place.
 
I agree the deposit limit is a big deal and needs to be sorted ASAP.
Also I would like to hear more from MA rep regarding the error of Nicola getting someone else's banking details. Did the CS rep give her the details or was there the wrong persons details in my account area? I have never had a CS rep give me my own details so I was :what: when I read that. So I guess I would like an acknowledgement that procedures will be put in place to ensure that this will not happen again.

Anyway I did want to post on my experience with this casino. I deposited there today and overall I had a positive experience. I spoke to CS to ask for assistance and she was quite helpful and answered all my questions. I did have a few MG games with a few laggy spins an got the usual quickfire errors twice I think. I do like the casino layout. I didn't win but I did have about 3 hours entertainment. So overall it was good pleasant experience.
Also I wanted to say they have very clear and easy to follow T&C's which I do like. I will play there again in the future:)

So if the issue surrounding a player getting another players details in error is addressed and deposit limits are introduced I would give this casino a thumbs up.:)
 
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Im scared to talk now lol, No serious Im am not the best person to read about things, (you ever herad that saying in 1 ear out the other?) Well thats me,) I did read yestoday this thread, I been over again but cannot see some of the points? 1st of all were did the giving oters info come from? 2nd we all have a bad day but I would certainly no if paying with balance or (test) e no about about it,

I have tried reading threw the thread many times, Every person poke the finger at the bad peron but that person (site) is not bad,(not normally)Just some people experianse diff things, like if you signed up to a site and made a good bit of cash than it will be great site no problems, but as soon as lose abit of cash its rouge,

Please again do not kick me in the head :) as we all no there's some dodgy site there and thats what this site as done for us, if no 1 moaned or complain than 99% of sites would still do us in, Than if thats the case I do not think Brian could of afford that shave :)
 
Short update, as this thread has changed direction since I last looked/posted...

On Monday, a senior inspector at the Isle of Man Gambling Supervision Commission was made aware of both the data breach and the complete lack of responsible gaming at Monaco Aces which possibly breaches the conditions of their licence issued on the 27th May 2010. I have received confirmation that the complaint was received as will be looked into as soon as possible.

The casino themselves have still not responded to an written complaint sent on Saturday which detailed the security breach, gaming errors and the poor level of support. I genuinely hope they have secured (at my request) both gaming and account logs from the night in question, otherwise we may never know what happened or if any other personal information was released. For security, the debit card used to deposit has been cancelled.

Cannot comment further until the matter is fully investigated.
 
Im scared to talk now lol, No serious Im am not the best person to read about things, (you ever herad that saying in 1 ear out the other?) Well thats me,) I did read yestoday this thread, I been over again but cannot see some of the points? 1st of all were did the giving oters info come from? 2nd we all have a bad day but I would certainly no if paying with balance or (test) e no about about it,

I have tried reading threw the thread many times, Every person poke the finger at the bad peron but that person (site) is not bad,(not normally)Just some people experianse diff things, like if you signed up to a site and made a good bit of cash than it will be great site no problems, but as soon as lose abit of cash its rouge,

Please again do not kick me in the head :) as we all no there's some dodgy site there and thats what this site as done for us, if no 1 moaned or complain than 99% of sites would still do us in, Than if thats the case I do not think Brian could of afford that shave :)

I suggest you re-read the thread carefully Spintee, as suggesting any other member's complaints are purely based on losing is out of order and offensive. If you take this stance in rating casinos, then that's your prerogative, however real issues such as the one's mentioned here are serious, and need to be addressed. I haven't made 'a good bit of cash' at any casino for 6 months, yet I haven't come on here calling all those casinos I played at rogue, have I? Read threads a bit more carefully in the future perhaps.
 
I'm sorry, but I have to nip this in the bud right now. There has been some misinformation being spread here which I feel is damaging - especially if it turns out not to be true.

I have been told that there has not been any breach of security; at no stage did the casino send banking details to any account but only to the account's contact email.

The OP has a boyfriend who is trying to send his banking info from an email address besides his own. In other words, he doesn't have access to his registered email address - which is pretty odd in itself and I'm guessing is trying to use his girlfriend's email address to do this. Maybe Nicola can give us a bit more info on this..

I am hoping that Nicola is being forthright and honest with us. Holding back information that should have been given to us within the first post is not just uncool, it's deceptive.
 
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Cannot comment further until the matter is fully investigated.
I would suggest answering my concerns from the post above. Thanks!

I feel that I'm obligated to add that my main concern here is that the casino has the proper setup to combat problem gambling like deposit limits. I've been assured that this is being addressed - and there should be an answer to this by Friday. Until then, I'm suspending the casino's accreditation until this is set up.
 
I have been told that there has not been any breach of security; at no stage did the casino send banking details to any account but only to the account's contact email.

Some information has been withheld from this thread due to the nature of the complaint but no personal data was SENT to our e-mail but address - because of the constant time-outs when the page was refreshed we were automatically logged into someone else's account which displayed personal information and banking in the account section. This was the data breach and why the casino have been asked to check their log files.

The OP has a boyfriend who is trying to send his banking info from an email address besides his own.

By saying that you have clearly spoken to someone who has told you personal information about myself/boyfriend. Have I given anyone permission for this happen (sorry I'm not saying that in a bad way to insult you!) How is that not another breach of the data protection act?

Actually, now that you have said the above it I think it makes it clearer to everyone that they are breaking the rules when it comes to sharing personal information. Secondly, this concern is not over a payout, it is about a data breach, constant time outs, poor customer service and a ill regard to responsible gambling. We have provided full evidence, times and documentation to the Isle of Man Gambling Supervision Commission for them to investigate. It is now up to the Casino (Monaco Aces) to provide logs to dispute our claim.

(In regards to the e-mail, my boyfriend sent his documentation in from his phone ((as he took the passport, utility bill pictures etc with it)) and the phone uses a different e-mail address.) This is resolved now anyway :)

We both play gaming together on-line and are super competitive when it comes to tournaments. I'm just the one that is picky when it comes to fair play and responsible gambling and starts moaning on here LOL

I'm very happy you have taken the decision to suspend the Casino from accreditation rights until they can provide proof of their RG. In my view, this is a very serious matter as it may be in breach of their licence.
 
So you're saying that it's acceptable to post defamatory statements against a business and not expect them to defend themselves? Why weren't you upfront about the entire situation to begin with? That's what I don't get.
 
So you're saying that it's acceptable to post defamatory statements against a business and not expect them to defend themselves? Why weren't you upfront about the entire situation to begin with? That's what I don't get.

There is nothing defamatory with posting the truth and/or experience with a particular casino. There is solid evidence of game play issues and login/logout issues (others in this thread have posted the same) and our records has been handed to the appropriate people concerned. I'm sure if you had a complaint of this nature you wouldn't post the screenshots and documentation in a public forum?

As I haven't 'pitched a bitch' or asked for your help then why have you suddenly jumped in while the investigation is still running its course? Aside, you clearly think there are one or more issues with Monaco Aces or you wouldn't have suspended accreditation. Unless you are in full procession of the complaint and facts (which I hope you are not, because that means a Government Agency are leaking information), there is nothing else to say on the matter until conclusion.

There is good reason for this complaint otherwise we wouldn't waste a good deal of time and effort into making it official :thumbsup:

Thank you for taking the time to respond, your input in appreciated as always.
 
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The reason I'm jumping in is because I want to make sure that this discussion is a balanced one - not one-sided. It may be a cliché, but there will always be two sides of a coin. To be fair, the other side should be given a fair chance.
 
I suggest you re-read the thread carefully Spintee, as suggesting any other member's complaints are purely based on losing is out of order and offensive. If you take this stance in rating casinos, then that's your prerogative, however real issues such as the one's mentioned here are serious, and need to be addressed. I haven't made 'a good bit of cash' at any casino for 6 months, yet I haven't come on here calling all those casinos I played at rogue, have I? Read threads a bit more carefully in the future perhaps.

Azzurri mate, As I said I did not want to offend any 1, I stated (Just some people experience diff things) (e.g) If I put all the reasons Im sure I would of ran out of room, That was just 1 of the reasons, Also the op has now stated that some parts of the thread has gone so I did not get the whole picture & again I mentioned going over the thread a few times and not seeing a few points
Happy spinning
 
There is nothing defamatory with posting the truth and/or experience with a particular casino. There is solid evidence of game play issues and login/logout issues (others in this thread have posted the same) and our records has been handed to the appropriate people concerned. I'm sure if you had a complaint of this nature you wouldn't post the screenshots and documentation in a public forum?

As I haven't 'pitched a bitch' or asked for your help then why have you suddenly jumped in while the investigation is still running its course? Aside, you clearly think there are one or more issues with Monaco Aces or you wouldn't have suspended accreditation. Unless you are in full procession of the complaint and facts (which I hope you are not, because that means a Government Agency are leaking information), there is nothing else to say on the matter until conclusion.

There is good reason for this complaint otherwise we wouldn't waste a good deal of time and effort into making it official :thumbsup:

Thank you for taking the time to respond, your input in appreciated as always.

Yes, Bryan already made that clear, based solely on their lack of RG facilities which is his prime concern (and mine.)
I reported that issue on here initially, and wasn't trying to hijack your issue Nicola. I am pleased he has suspended accreditation until the prerequisite RG tools are in place.

As for your issue, did you actually get a log/screenshot of the offending foreign data you saw, in order to establish whether it definitely was a real customer's as opposed to random 'infill' which some forms show when logged in incorrectly?

The point is you have been treading a fine line between discretion (with your private IOM/MA issues) and simultaneously posting accusations on here which any responsible mod in Bryan or Max's position would feel compelled to investigate further (as they did with the RG issue) considering the gravity of them. You then sound surprised when they challenge you by posting too.

Perhaps it's best to continue this via PM from now on. As for data protection, nobody here knows anything about you, aside from the fact you have a boyfriend. Seeing your photo I'd hardly call that a revelation!;)
 
Hey Bryan, I know I said I wasn't going to contribute here anymore, but I just had to after what I've read between you and Nicola. I also believe that the privacy breach issue is the most concerning now, and needs to be addressed.

Please understand Bryan, that all my comments here come with the utmost respect for both yourself and all involved, and I don't beat around the bush, or let a good yarn get in the way of the truth. This issue is bugging me, and I have to air my opinion further. Sorry to those who hate long posts, or couldn't care less what I have to say, but bear with me, and just be thankful your not my wife.

I agree 100% with your (Bryan's) comments regarding the casino has a right of reply, and the right to defend themselves against some serious allegations. I made this same statement earlier regarding my right to share my experience, and also MA's right to respond. This turned a little ugly when MA, not I for the record, resorted to childish (my opinion) name calling and blatant lies, together with claims my sole intention was to defame him into ruin, and my personal favourite, that I was a competing casino's wolf in sheep's clothing. Hardly a professional approach to an issue raised by a legitimate customer inquiry. I remain accountable for my own actions, and admit I may at times come across harsh in my approach, however one thing I can promise you all, is that I don't lie, and my claims are based on facts, and often evidence. People have claimed I'm guilty of making assumptions disguised as questions, and whilst I can accept it may have looked this way, I can also assure you all, that there are no deep seeded malicious intents, and frankly, I may be semi competent with my words, however I am not worthy of that type of credit, and most definitely not that clever. If one of my questions has a perceived malicious undertone, I apologize, but please see it as a question based on anxious concern, rather than malicious psychological warfare. I just wanted to make that point clear to you Bryan, the other members, and even MA, to understand where I fit as a player, customer, and forum member.

Regarding your stance here Bryan, I can of course respect the fact that you want to defend MA, and keep the balance of the argument fair here, as this is your domain, and MA is a casino you have personally screened, and promoted on your site. I have the utmost respect for what you do here, and what you have achieved, and it's obvious by your comments you are switched on, and ultimately in tune with what's really happening for the most part, this aside from your defense of MA. However, based on what I have read, and perhaps ignorantly (hopefully not) accepting all parties have provided honest versions of events, I think I have to side with Nicola. Your first comment made me think Nicola may be hiding something, however her response indicated to me maybe the versions you received got crossed along the line, as it seems like you originally tied the boyfriend's email concern with Nicola's claims of a privacy breach. If this is indeed a separate issue, and Nicola's version of the privacy breach is to be believed, then I back Nicola's cause for concern, as I would be horrified if someone randomly happened to log into my account by accident. Especially considering the number of dodgy individuals, and/or syndicates, out there, who work to exploit casinos for criminal gains, and wouldn't think twice about exploiting a random customer who's account they just stumbled into. For a criminal, this would be like winning the meat tray at the local pub's raffle on Christmas eve! I think what's happened here is Bryan has got MA's side of the story, without MA actually knowing, or understanding, what the actual breach was. They may have assumed it was the boyfriend issue, and hence this is the only information Bryan had to go on. Correct?

In saying that, it's no secret I no longer trust MA, and considering the reps blatant 'begging' lie he told of me, and his non response to my invitation to post the 'begging' pm publicly for all to see, I am of the opinion that Bryan, you may not be getting the whole truth from your end of the argument, and this zebra (MA) hasn't changed his stripes. I think MA has been surprised by these issues that have surfaced, and didn't expect some clever casinomites to spot these certain flaws in their operation, regardless of whether these flaws were intentional by nature, or more likely not. I also believe that in an attempt to go into damage control, they have foolishly resorted to trying to shift blame to the customers, make false accusations that can be proven false, and perhaps withholding the full truth from the all seeing, all knowing Casinomeister. Let's not forget the esteem in which this forum is held within the casino sector, and that is why reps do all they can to help, assist, and avoid bad publicity here. I can fully understand MA being aggrieved by this bad publicity, but rather than porky pigging their way through it all (apip, apap, apip, apip, that's all folks!) isn't the logical decision for them to make, and what most have done here for years, is to accept some accountability, and work with the customers to produce a mutually beneficial resolution, or in some instances, a correction in system flaws to avoid further breaches and the like, whilst regaining player trust? I just don't get the approach MA has taken regarding all the issues raised, and they can blame us all they want for conspiring to destroy them, yet it would be much easier to wake up, and realize that any damage caused to their brand, has solely been achieved by themselves, and the constant toe tapping and stuttering they have displayed here.

I say this to all parties, Nicola, MA, and anyone else with an issue. Just speak the honest truth, lay it all out, and if mistakes were made, apologize now, as forgiveness is easier to receive, and more likely to achieve, than crying foul now and later being uncovered as a lying schemer. Personally I know I have been totally honest, yet there are bigger issues at hand. I would like to believe, that given the magnitude of Nicola's privacy breach claims, she would not make such damaging claims falsely, and I would personally be shattered if they were discovered to be false, given I offer my backing to her cause based on the information here. Contrarily, MA are the one's here with the most to lose, and now player trust and respect to regain. The allegations are damaging, and nothing will be gained by temporarily withholding the truth, as all roads eventually lead to Rome. If nothing else, please save Bryan his valuable time and efforts, by being completely honest with him, so he can seek a fair result for all involved. Being dropped from the accredited list is massive, and should be viewed as such, and considering it is the go to page for new and old players alike, any exclusion would have to be a backward step in claiming one's market share of the industry as a whole.

On a personal note, I chose not to continue with my (originally minor) complaint, as I didn't want to enter into a back and forth finger pointing, name calling, session, and I made it clear I had the evidence to discredit MA's lies about me, and they now needed to prove me wrong should they wish to continue their argument. Not surprisingly they recalled and retreated the troops, so I ended it as I made a decision to never return to MA anyway under any circumstances, as MA's lies were enough to arouse my suspicions, and for me to lose instant trust in the venue as a whole. That's not to say they aren't an honest, or trustworthy operation, however I am confident in my decision, and stand by the reasons behind it. This issue unnecessarily escalated to a bizarre level, when common sense should have prevailed, and a simple search of my other, and very limited, casino complaints, would have informed MA that I am a legitimate player, and easy to appease if approached and dealt with civilly.

I'm sure MA can agree, that my modest complaint should have been a walk in the park considering the bigger issue that's transpired here now.

For everyone's sake, not least of all Bryan's now he's involved, let's work together to sort this all out once and for all like adults, and resolve the issues at hand without resorting to silly fun, or rather unfun (I know it's not a word), tricks and games.

Maybe MA can offer a free $5 chip to anyone who actually gets through this post. :lolup:
 
Yes, Bryan already made that clear, based solely on their lack of RG facilities which is his prime concern (and mine.)
I reported that issue on here initially, and wasn't trying to hijack your issue Nicola. I am pleased he has suspended accreditation until the prerequisite RG tools are in place.

As for your issue, did you actually get a log/screenshot of the offending foreign data you saw, in order to establish whether it definitely was a real customer's as opposed to random 'infill' which some forms show when logged in incorrectly?

The point is you have been treading a fine line between discretion (with your private IOM/MA issues) and simultaneously posting accusations on here which any responsible mod in Bryan or Max's position would feel compelled to investigate further (as they did with the RG issue) considering the gravity of them. You then sound surprised when they challenge you by posting too.

Perhaps it's best to continue this via PM from now on. As for data protection, nobody here knows anything about you, aside from the fact you have a boyfriend. Seeing your photo I'd hardly call that a revelation!;)

Like I said dunover, all my comments are based on believing the information Nicola is offering, but granted the RG issue is a biggy, do you honestly rate it above the privacy breach issue? I would have thought this is massive in comparison. Imagine I am sitting here right now, and wammo! I'm inexplicably in your account all of a sudden, with full access to your personal details such as phone, address, full name, and bank account details. I also have access to possible active and funded bank accounts or e-wallets, and if I've hit the real jackpot, you've been a customer for some time, and I can deposit and withdraw funds to another new account without too much hassle or fuss. If by chance I'm a seasoned crook or hacker, I can then hold onto these details to do God knows what in God knows where, because now God himself is the only one who knows the truth whilst your double is now possibly out there doing things you as a model citizen have never even dreamed of. I know this is the ultimate dramatization, but worst case scenarios such as this are not only possible in this day and age, but happening more often every day.

I'm just saying, I value the protection of my identity a little more than anything else on the table here. We put our ultimate trust in these casinos, as they preach we are always protected, yet this now has me concerned on the whole. Lets not forget this is (or was) an accredited casino. I don't get how this can happen?
 
Like I said dunover, all my comments are based on believing the information Nicola is offering, but granted the RG issue is a biggy, do you honestly rate it above the privacy breach issue? I would have thought this is massive in comparison. Imagine I am sitting here right now, and wammo! I'm inexplicably in your account all of a sudden, with full access to your personal details such as phone, address, full name, and bank account details. I also have access to possible active and funded bank accounts or e-wallets, and if I've hit the real jackpot, you've been a customer for some time, and I can deposit and withdraw funds to another new account without too much hassle or fuss. If by chance I'm a seasoned crook or hacker, I can then hold onto these details to do God knows what in God knows where, because now God himself is the only one who knows the truth whilst your double is now possibly out there doing things you as a model citizen have never even dreamed of. I know this is the ultimate dramatization, but worst case scenarios such as this are not only possible in this day and age, but happening more often every day.

I'm just saying, I value the protection of my identity a little more than anything else on the table here. We put our ultimate trust in these casinos, as they preach we are always protected, yet this now has me concerned on the whole. Lets not forget this is (or was) an accredited casino. I don't get how this can happen?

Remember my posting about RG was fact and has been dealt with. The data breach is as of yet an allegation, unconfirmed.
 
Very fair point mate, and duly noted. I may have jumped on the Nicola bandwagon too early, but she presents a convincing case, and the accusations are so extreme, that I find it hard to believe she would go to so much effort to mentally fabricate such claims as a calculated and malicious afterthought in addition to her much lighter complaint of game errors.

But how about this thread huh? It's turned into a doosie, and the suspense is killing me!

Can't wait to see how it all ends as an official neutral spectator now. It's definitely now been setup as to end with someone losing all credibility once the truth is finally revealed. Worst case scenario, both parties tarnish their reps beyond repair, and face some hefty consequences from Bryan, and possibly further governing bodies as a result.

Nicola, not sure if it's been asked yet, and apologize if it has, but did you grab a screenshot of the other customers account you had access to? I would hope such lofty claims would come with some form of evidence? It would definitely strengthen your stance in Bryan's eyes at the very least I would think.

Can a mod please delete this double post? Sorry for the inconvenience and error.
 
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Very fair point mate, and duly noted. I may have jumped on the Nicola bandwagon too early, but she presents a convincing case, and the accusations are so extreme, that I find it hard to believe she would go to so much effort to mentally fabricate such claims as a calculated and malicious afterthought in addition to her much lighter complaint of game errors.

But how about this thread huh? It's turned into a doosie, and the suspense is killing me!

Can't wait to see how it all ends as an official neutral spectator now. It's definitely now been setup as to end with someone losing all credibility once the truth is finally revealed. Worst case scenario, both parties tarnish their reps beyond repair, and face some hefty consequences from Bryan, and possibly further governing bodies as a result.

Nicola, not sure if it's been asked yet, and apologize if it has, but did you grab a screenshot of the other customers account you had access to? I would hope such lofty claims would come with some form of evidence? It would definitely strengthen your stance in Bryan's eyes at the very least I would think.

Bryan, has this issue now gone strictly private between all parties, as I'm surprised MA hasn't responded for a while? Fair enough during the investigation phase, but I would hope other current and potential customers, would get a final statement on the findings. Of course there's also those of us who are just nosy ex-customers now, and curious to see how it all ends.
 
I am sure MA will comply with any requests they receive from IOM with whom Nicola lodged her complaint. It is up to them to review the issue and decide if it is a valid complaint or not. IOM is a very strict jurisdiction so they will act if they find anything untoward. Anything we post here on the thread with regards to the data breach issue is pure speculation. Let us see what happens after IOM has had a look at all the evidence.

The most important issue is RG which I am sure MA will take care of in a quick manner. For me once the issue of RG gets resolved I will consider MA to be a good place to play. I also hope that once MA gets the gambling limits set up that this casino becomes accredited here again.:)
 
Nicola, not sure if it's been asked yet, and apologize if it has, but did you grab a screenshot of the other customers account you had access to? I would hope such lofty claims would come with some form of evidence? It would definitely strengthen your stance in Bryan's eyes at the very least I would think.

Absolutely not, copying that would implicate us (me and my boyfriend) this end by storing someone's private information. (Although I'm not sure which data protection act would be broken, Isle of Man, United Kingdom or Cyprus - too many countries involved here) All the times and dates were provided with the original complaint so it shouldn't be too hard to match IP addresses and authentications at the gaming server end. As they were Microgaming games being played, it is beyond doubt that every paid and demo transaction was logged.

Bryan, has this issue now gone strictly private between all parties, as I'm surprised MA hasn't responded for a while?

It is worth pointing out here, that a full week (seven days) have now passed since these issues occurred. My boyfriend has still not received ANY communication from the casino despite a written complaint (which was confirmed to have been passed to a manager), three telephone calls and the posts here. If this occurred at say 32Red, you could imagine a manager would be very keen to ask questions and personally assign himself to the complaint.

There remains three parts to this complaint

1. Constant logouts from the casino site - annoyance value
2. Somehow being logged into someone else's account
3. Poor levels of customer support

Remember, this thread only exists because when the casino were made aware of the first two problems above, they didn't know what to do and refused to put a manager on the phone, or make him/her aware. :)
 

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