mileamihai VS casino rewards/zodiac casino

[Nifty29]

Now, i don't lie! i ve spoke with an layer!!

Well I would have thought a RUBBER would have been just the ticket....

 

[ksech]

The rubber has layers? Really confused between all the ??? and the !!! and .... maybe it's a good thing there are layers?

 

[chuchu59]

layer (lawyer) and rubber (robber). I understand that there are people whose first language isnt English but shouldnt they make at least some effort to ensure words are spelt correctly. Forget about grammar. Nevertheless, good riddance. Loved the username in red.

 

[Casinomeister]

I honestly thought he was calling Casino Rewards a bunch of condoms. "Robbers" didn't dawn on me

 

[chuchu59]

Our government doesnt advocate the use of condoms. For safer sex, yes but they also want to see a drastic increase in population so that we can truly become a metropolitan city.

 

[chayton]

someone else had a problem like me at ELdorado casino.......they have proved the inocence of the player and he asked for 20.000$ from Eldorado....and they have payed the entirely sum!!!

What a nightmare to be owed $20K from Eldorado Palace.

 

[Jasminebed]

Usually I feel for the OP, but I'm inclined to believe CR in this case. Just a gut feeling.

Maybe I can put the OP in touch with a woman wants me to keep her in my prayers. I think she needs help moving a large sum of money out of her country.

I know that Casino Rewards does have a clause that prohibits just jumping from casino to casino claiming the free chips without making some deposits... perhaps those are some of the 15 accounts referred to?

Seems to know quite a bit about online gambling for his/her very first online account too. Had a moneybookers' account to make the deposit from as well.

I think you should have got a name for that Bucharest layer before banning the OP though... $20K payment from El Dorado on a $3K debt? I think there are a few Betfair and other players would love his name

 

[Tengil]

Just a FYI
KGC has ruled in favour of the player and he has been paid.

 

[4 of a kind]

Just a FYI
KGC has ruled in favour of the player and he has been paid.

That's odd.... Based on the comments in this thread and the OP's banning, I was convinced the OP was obnoxious, belligerent, arrogant, illiterate, and a fraudster. I mean common what else could being tied to 15 different accounts indicate?

 

[4 of a kind]

They have also claimed that you are connected to about 15 other accounts, so good luck with eCOGRA

Maybe Bryan could confirm this player was in fact paid, and clarify these accusations made by the casino. It would appear that since the OP got paid that these accusations could not have been true, and someone is lying.

Apparently they sent his $1.00 deposit back and blocked his account. This would indicate that their investigation was complete and confirmed.

So exactly what went on here? Where are all the righteous members that should be demanding a clear explanation?

 

[P.V.]

So exactly what went on here? Where are all the righteous members that should be demanding a clear explanation?

Just read the thread 4OAK, quite confusing. Clarification is needed as you've suggested.

 

[Nifty29]

Maybe Bryan could confirm this player was in fact paid, and clarify these accusations made by the casino. It would appear that since the OP got paid that these accusations could not have been true, and someone is lying.

Apparently they sent his $1.00 deposit back and blocked his account. This would indicate that their investigation was complete and confirmed.

So exactly what went on here? Where are all the righteous members that should be demanding a clear explanation?

"all the righteous members"

A clarification of that statement is also called for....to whom are you referring? Do you mean "righteous" as in derailing every other thread with "online casinos are evil" rants or something different?

 

[Brooklyn]

I see a derail coming, sigh.

Ok. If he was in fact cleared and paid then good for him.

 

[chayton]

I just found this and the player responded that yes they did get paid,

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[Tengil]

That's odd.... Based on the comments in this thread and the OP's banning, I was convinced the OP was obnoxious, belligerent, arrogant, illiterate, and a fraudster. I mean common what else could being tied to 15 different accounts indicate?

You only need to look at who made the claim about being tied to 15 accounts.

Their rep who has a history of making false or otherwise totally ludicrous statements over the years on different forums. Whatever she is misinformed or not one should always take her posts/statements with a grain of salt.

 

[4 of a kind]

"all the righteous members"

A clarification of that statement is also called for....to whom are you referring? Do you mean "righteous" as in derailing every other thread with "online casinos are evil" rants or something different?

Since this thread is pretty much solved, I'll respond to you Mr. Niffty.

"Righteous" members would definitely include you as one of them. Had the same facts been confirmed in favor of the casinos findings, you would have been the first one here calling the OP a fraud along with some other adjectives.

Regardless who it was representing the casino that linked this OP to fraud, they weren't going to pay him and proved that by sending him back only his $1.00 keeping his winnings. Once Bryan announced the OP was tied to 15 different accounts it was a foregone conclusion here he was a fraud.

It's obvious this casino lied to the OP and also to Bryan. Had this player not gone elsewhere for help he would have remained a victim of theft.

Why aren't you, one of the fairest members here not demanding an explanation of what actually was the casinos intentions? Wouldn't you be concerned if this tactic is a common practice there? This certainly would be grounds for a rogue listing.

How many others did this happen to, that didn't know where to get help and just walked away? This player found this place and was labeled a fraud and banned. Good thing he didn't quit after what happened here.

How could a casino rep who has a history of making false or otherwise totally ludicrous statements over the years on different forums, still be representing such an honest casino?

 

[maxd]

This player ... was labeled a fraud and banned.

Nice try.

If you'd care to look at the sequence of events as they actually occurred you'll see that the player was not "labeled a fraud and banned", he was labeled a PITA and banned. This is why it says "Banned User - too annoying" under his user name. For details see the following:

Regardless of what language this person speaks or where they are from there is no excuse for such disrespectful and deceitful behaviour. I do not believe that such actions should be rewarded with the benefits of our Pitch-A-Bitch service.

And the actual ban notice: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/mileamihai-vs-casino-rewards-zodiac-casino.46082/

In Bryan's final statement he mentioned in passing that there was the possibility of multiple accounts but that was not the reason for the ban, more of an afterthought.

As to the outrage of the "righteous" ... I suggest you keep your religious zeal out of the discussion and off our forums. That's a serious personal agenda you've got going there and flogging it as you have been recently is going to get you into the Moderated user's group (posts will have to be approved before they appear on the forums), or worse.

Later: Realised I forgot about this bit:

It's obvious this casino lied to the OP and also to Bryan.

No that is not obvious at all. As yet I don't see that there is any evidence to support such a statement. "Just say it and somebody will believe you" may be sufficient for your purposes but it's not sufficient here. This is troll behaviour and I think you know where that will get you.

 

[4 of a kind]

As to the outrage of the "righteous" ... I suggest you keep your religious zeal out of the discussion and off our forums. That's a serious personal agenda you've got going there and flogging it as you have been recently is going to get you into the Moderated user's group (posts will have to be approved before they appear on the forums), or worse.

I clearly understand and respect your warning above and will make certain it never happens again.

Could you clear up exactly why the players winnings were forfeited and then suddenly returned when the KGC got involved?

I would also like to point out how the KGC demonstrated in this case how simple things could be with a regulatory enforcement in place that works. Issues like this one could be handled with direct communication to the commission. (Judge and Jury) If all casinos were forced to abide by the rulings of the commission, all the nonsense would disappear.

The KGC has a long way to go yet, but at least we know their breathing.

 

[maxd]

I clearly understand and respect your warning above and will make certain it never happens again.

Thank you, that would be appreciated. Please keep this in mind next time you are tempted to post one of your "I'm the last one asking tough questions, everyone else has been banned or driven off" fantasies (such as here).

Could you clear up exactly why the players winnings were forfeited and then suddenly returned when the KGC got involved?

Not really, no. I have no information on this because I was in no way involved. I'd have to go to the KGC and ask them, but you can do that yourself so ... have at it.

 

[4 of a kind]

Not really, no. I have no information on this because I was in no way involved. I'd have to go to the KGC and ask them, but you can do that yourself so ... have at it.

Does this mean you don't care one way or the other why the OP got his winnings back?

 

[maxd]

Does this mean you don't care one way or the other why the OP got his winnings back?

No, it means "I have no information on this because I was in no way involved. I'd have to go to the KGC and ask them, but you can do that yourself so ... have at it." What kind of question is that? To what end?

As far as I'm concerned the OP was abusive and manipulative and deserved to be tossed to the curb, as I previously stated. Why would I want to get involved with it now? To satisfy your curiosity? Sorry but that's not† a good enough reason, I've got other issues that need my attention.

If the OP had been been even a little bit civilised and respectful this might have worked out differently. Given the way they did behave though I said I wanted nothing to do with them and that remains the case. The less involved I am the better, IMO.

 

[Diane]

No, it means "I have no information on this because I was in no way involved. I'd have to go to the KGC and ask them, but you can do that yourself so ... have at it." What kind of question is that? To what end?

As far as I'm concerned the OP was abusive and manipulative and deserved to be tossed to the curb, as I previously stated. Why would I want to get involved with it now? To satisfy your curiosity? Sorry but that's a good enough reason, I've got other issues that need my attention.

If the OP had been been even a little bit civilised and respectful this might have worked out differently. Given the way they did behave though I said I wanted nothing to do with them and that remains the case. The less involved I am the better, IMO.

Max - Kudos to you (and Bryan) for sticking to your guns. A brand new poster, who's first post is so inflammatory and accusatory doesn't deserve your time or attention. Too much time wasted by you and Bryan on this already.

Even if he struggled with the English language ----- his tone didn't deserve a response. And it appears he selectively shared emails with us since Bryan had the racist one and it was denied by the OP.

Many of us want to help new members who find their way here perhaps due to a problem. But they have to be respectful, polite and "calm down" when told to do so. They are not ENTITLED to help, help is given as a service and by people trying to be nice and neighborly. You don't owe anyone anything, especially someone who is loud and combative.

Please save your time and energy for those contributing members of the forum. I understand being upset, I understand having a poor command of the English language, but he knew enough to make threats in between his pleadings.

OP doesn't deserve the space and time he took up here.

IMO

Diane

 

[4 of a kind]

No, it means "I have no information on this because I was in no way involved. I'd have to go to the KGC and ask them, but you can do that yourself so ... have at it." What kind of question is that? To what end?

As far as I'm concerned the OP was abusive and manipulative and deserved to be tossed to the curb, as I previously stated. Why would I want to get involved with it now? To satisfy your curiosity? Sorry but that's a good enough reason, I've got other issues that need my attention.

If the OP had been been even a little bit civilised and respectful this might have worked out differently. Given the way they did behave though I said I wanted nothing to do with them and that remains the case. The less involved I am the better, IMO.

I understand your decision not to get involved with the OP. I just thought you or Bryan might be interested since this case had an odd twist, and maybe a warning was in order for the safety of the members here.

I would have a hard time getting any information from the KGC (if they would even respond to me) without any information other then to link them to this thread.

 

[maxd]

I just thought you or Bryan might be interested since this case had an odd twist, and maybe a warning was in order for the safety of the members here.

Unless I've missed something I see no call for a Warning. Or perhaps you meant a reminder about treating casino reps with a bit of respect? Or was it a caution to the readers that some forum members have a big, fat agenda and that readers can't always take what someone posts at any given moment as an honest representation of what they are really on about? So many possibilities, so little time.

I would have a hard time getting any information from the KGC (if they would even respond to me) without any information other then to link them to this thread.

Yes, I imagine you might. Perhaps you can calm yourself with the thought that anything I dug up would likely be off the record anyway so ... nothing would change AFAICT.

As to Bryan, you very well know he's his own man and I'm sure he will respond, or not, as he sees fit.

FWIW, I felt it necessary to update an earlier post: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/mileamihai-vs-casino-rewards-zodiac-casino.46082/.

 

[4 of a kind]

Unless I've missed something I see no call for a Warning. Or perhaps you meant a reminder about treating casino reps with a bit of respect? Or was it a caution to the readers that some forum members have a big, fat agenda and that readers can't always take what someone posts at any given moment as an honest representation of what they are really on about? So many possibilities, so little time.



Yes, I imagine you might. Perhaps you can calm yourself with the thought that anything I dug up would likely be off the record anyway so ... nothing would change AFAICT.

As to Bryan, you very well know he's his own man and I'm sure he will respond, or not, as he sees fit.

FWIW, I felt it necessary to update an earlier post: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/mileamihai-vs-casino-rewards-zodiac-casino.46082/.

If you believe everything is in fair order concerning the OP’s outcome, I could only agree. Sorry for taking up your time concerning this issue.

Not sure how a reminder about treating reps with respect fits into this thread, but no problem, I understand.

I’d be very disappointed if what I’m really on about in my posts could be interpreted as having any other meaning. I thought my posts were blatantly clear.

Every single player that ever deposits and is willing to risk their money gaming online needs real protection which will only be achieved with regulation and enforcement.

Anyone that thinks gambling online in the present environment is safe, are in denial, since its history speaks for itself.