WARNING Memo Casino - no license - taking UK bets

[The Dude]

We have reports about a unlicensed casino Memo-casino.com taking UK bets without a valid UK license. We have a complaint being processed at the moment concerning this - they are refusing to refund deposits made by invoalid bets.

But just take a look at the website footer, and you know it's dodgy:

That is the footer - no license - just a few platitude links to mimic the possibility that they care about you. They don't - they are here to fleece any sucker that signs up.

CASINOMEISTER WARNING: Memo-casino is a dodgy casino. Avoid at all costs.

 

[L&L-Jan]

I posted this on a Dutch forum as illegal gambling is getting pretty popular there. Kind tip if you want to take the risk as a player:

Scroll down to the footer of the site, no company information = red flag.
Open terms and conditions, no company name and the use of terms like: we/us/our = red flag

Bounce right away!

Good luck!

 

[mulven]

It's worth reporting them to the GCB, which is where they have a pending application for a licence.

The following casinos are owned by IntellogixSoft:

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• memo
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I found a certificate of operation for all of them apart from memo casino as I have been unable to find a country that isn't blocked whilst using a VPN.

This group is hiding their name and licence whilst trying to illegally take UK bets and I'm fairly sure that that violates what they agreed with the GCB.

EDIT: After like 25 countries, romania worked, still no footer (unlike the sisters sites) but in their terms and conditions it mentions the intellogixsoft stuff, confirming the link. The uk terms are scrubbed of this of course.

 

[justdoit]

It's worth reporting them to the GCB, which is where they have a pending application for a licence.

The following casinos are owned by IntellogixSoft:

• You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.
• memo
• You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.
• You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

I found a certificate of operation for all of them apart from memo casino as I have been unable to find a country that isn't blocked whilst using a VPN.

This group is hiding their name and licence whilst trying to illegally take UK bets and I'm fairly sure that that violates what they agreed with the GCB.

EDIT: After like 25 countries, romania worked, still no footer (unlike the sisters sites) but in their terms and conditions it mentions the intellogixsoft stuff, confirming the link. The uk terms are scrubbed of this of course.
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best place to report is in UKGC

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[mulven]

best place to report is in UKGC

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I guess hoping for the GCB to do anything would be a bit optimistic, should really void their application if all things were proper.

hopefully reporting them to UKGC helps get them removed from google results

 

[justdoit]

I guess hoping for the GCB to do anything would be a bit optimistic, should really void their application if all things were proper.

hopefully reporting them to UKGC helps get them removed from google results

they do remove them, any non UKGC casino gets remove if you report include Crypto Casinos

 

[Webzcas]

I guess hoping for the GCB to do anything would be a bit optimistic, should really void their application if all things were proper.

hopefully reporting them to UKGC helps get them removed from google results

Yes can confirm, after a long wait and slow start, the Gambling Commission are now very proactive from getting these sites removed from the google.co.uk index. As well as those sites that target individuals that are signed up to Gamstop.

So anything reported to them will get seen by a pair of eyes and actioned accordingly, where action is warranted.

 

[maxd]

FWIW I did find these on the site:

Nothing further to back any of this up, as if that would make a difference.

Costa Rica license (verified) = probably crap casino.
Costa Rica license (claimed but no details on offer) = 99% confirmed crap casino.

- Max

 

[mulven]

FWIW I did find these on the site:

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Same as when we encountered kinghills, swapping in some random costa rican crap when doing illegal stuff and hiding their curacao company name and licence which is present in other markets that view the website.

It would be refreshing if this kinda thing cost a company their GCB application but alas the curacao market wont have improved that much

 

[jasonuk]

Same as when we encountered kinghills, swapping in some random costa rican crap when doing illegal stuff and hiding their curacao company name and licence which is present in other markets that view the website.

We've seen split licenses in regulated markets for years (e.g. MGA + UKGC), but this seems to be an incoming development for the high seas...

By being "licensed" in Costa Rica (in the weakest possible sense, it's a worthless business license with no oversight) then Curacao can wash their hands of it because it's "not illegal" for them to do that - Costa Rica would then apply the same grey market tactics that Curacao has operated under (pre-CGCB) for years...

It clearly shows the intent though, these sites will keep going to lower and lower denominators to get what they want, and with fewer and fewer checks and balances... noting that Curacao was already at the low end!

Not that you have any safety net with Curacao... but the volume of fraudsters flocking to Costa Rica (or similarly, still in Curacao with a Costa Rica license... not that you can tell since no business information listed), I would be extremely careful with any site claiming to be licensed in Costa Rica or Anjouan - seeing the amount of shithole casinos popping up there, expect things to get a lot worse in the next 12 months in terms of scams.

 

[justdoit]

I guess hoping for the GCB to do anything would be a bit optimistic, should really void their application if all things were proper.

hopefully reporting them to UKGC helps get them removed from google results

UKGC forcing some gambling forums to hide crypto casinos

 

[jasonuk]

UKGC forcing some gambling forums to hide crypto casinos
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I don't think they are "forcing" in the sense they don't have jurisdiction over a site not based in the UK, however the threat of a delisting from Google UK might have a knock-on impact to their search ratings in other jurisdictions which would hurt them in the wallet.

Of course, "consider using a VPN" the immediate cop-out to encourage restricted players to see the list anyway... maybe the UKGC will have worked that part out when the three years needed to understand the crypto market is up .

Not that they should be advertising any crypto site to UK players with the current situation - Curacao properties can't accept us, and players should run a mile from Costa Rica and Anjouan properties.

 

[justdoit]

I don't think they are "forcing" in the sense they don't have jurisdiction over a site not based in the UK, however the threat of a delisting from Google UK might have a knock-on impact to their search ratings in other jurisdictions which would hurt them in the wallet.

Of course, "consider using a VPN" the immediate cop-out to encourage restricted players to see the list anyway... maybe the UKGC will have worked that part out when the three years needed to understand the crypto market is up .

Not that they should be advertising any crypto site to UK players with the current situation - Curacao properties can't accept us, and players should run a mile from Costa Rica and Anjouan properties.

this is from forum not google UK

 

[jasonuk]

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this is from forum not google UK

That is an interesting development, so the UKGC have discovered court orders then... not a new development, the media industry has been applying them aggressively for more than a decade (The Pirate Bay being blocked by UK ISPs in 2012).

BigWinBoard's argument about "overreach" is laughably weak though - it doesn't ask questions about jurisdiction because it applies to the UK only. If they don't target the UK market, and they don't operate in the UK... then they shouldn't really care, because such a block would only apply to UK-based ISPs.

Given their misjudged outburst, it suggests they do benefit from such visitors - and thus their argument rings hollow and they can either follow the rules in place or start blocking UK visitors themselves.

The method of attack from the UKGC is new, even if the intent isn't (e.g. age-verified images / demos on review sites, which achieved nothing but gave them a warm and fuzzy feeling).

Given how many threads we're seeing about UK people signing up to a shithole casino(tm) from a positive review on a "review site" and getting scammed, I agree with the UKGC on this one...

 

[justdoit]

That is an interesting development, so the UKGC have discovered court orders then... not a new development, the media industry has been applying them aggressively for more than a decade (The Pirate Bay being blocked by UK ISPs in 2012).

BigWinBoard's argument about "overreach" is laughably weak though - it doesn't ask questions about jurisdiction because it applies to the UK only. If they don't target the UK market, and they don't operate in the UK... then they shouldn't really care, because such a block would only apply to UK-based ISPs.

Given their misjudged outburst, it suggests they do benefit from such visitors - and thus their argument rings hollow and they can either follow the rules in place or start blocking UK visitors themselves.

The method of attack from the UKGC is new, even if the intent isn't (e.g. age-verified images / demos on review sites, which achieved nothing but gave them a warm and fuzzy feeling).

Given how many threads we're seeing about UK people signing up to a shithole casino(tm) from a positive review on a "review site" and getting scammed, I agree with the UKGC on this one...

all coz bigwinboard spoke the truth about UKGC, then UKGC replay on Mafia style to Bigwinboard,they are 1000s of gambling forums his the one to get attacked

 

[jasonuk]

all coz bigwinboard spoke the truth about UKGC, then UKGC replay on Mafia style to Bigwinboard,they are 1000s of gambling forums his the one to get attacked

Someone has to be first... and given how they've thrown their toys out of the pram it's clear they want the upsides (affiliate revenue from UK players) without the downside (following any guidelines in place from the local market). Their choice - play ball or go home.

It's funny, because what they've said about an "aggressive" regulatory stance from the UKGC is right (in the sense it negatively impacts player enjoyment and playtime) but at the same time the UKGC have been far too passive in dealing with problems - palming it off to ADR or needing three years to get to a solution.

 

[justdoit]

Someone has to be first... and given how they've thrown their toys out of the pram it's clear they want the upsides (affiliate revenue from UK players) without the downside (following any guidelines in place from the local market). Their choice - play ball or go home.

It's funny, because what they've said about an "aggressive" regulatory stance from the UKGC is right (in the sense it negatively impacts player enjoyment and playtime) but at the same time the UKGC have been far too passive in dealing with problems - palming it off to ADR or needing three years to get to a solution.

last week this casino ask me for sow on first £100 deposit, they even block me to play or withdraw as soones I made deposit, I told them no to sow close my account and refund my money, still waiting for refund for week now