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I see Certacas is a new member, how is the BTG office these days Sir? amazing hits don't know how you do it....

I don't know how the members here do it, hitting DOA1 and DOA2 for the wins they do, but I don't go accusing them of working for NetEnt LOL

He's not the only member here posting big Lil Devil wins.......
 
I don't know how the members here do it, hitting DOA1 and DOA2 for the wins they do, but I don't go accusing them of working for NetEnt LOL

He's not the only member here posting big Lil Devil wins.......

I suspect @Kroffe to work for NetEnt! Have you seen the amount of wildline videos he has posted lately? :eek::lolup:
 
I suspect @Kroffe to work for NetEnt! Have you seen the amount of wildline videos he has posted lately? :eek::lolup:

You cant prove shit!

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To me it just sounds like some people have a vendetta against BTG. Let it go. Just because you can't hit on their slots, it doesn't mean no-one else can.

Besides, no-one is forcing you to play them.

I get that. I respect that. But if I see zn opportunity at a dig i take it ;p
But As i said before, during some random semi sober moment of clarity.. this forum isn't small. bonanza was ravaged by many players here, for a long, long time.. that is a colossal amount of spins of which id hate to consider the amount..
But I tend to think of it as, after hearing about the potential, would you be satisifed if all the players here who relentlessly attack bonananza for example, combined all that gameplay into one, as if it were just 1 player. would you then be happy with the odd 1000x that you claim to have hit numerous times?
I know i wouldnt be. I k ow EXACTLY what frame of mind id be in if I looked at it that way Its been said time and time again but imo it's true; That game was advertised/sold as an absolute monster with wild potential.. and with the previous semi sober statement/blabbering bs that I just made in this post taken into account, you're right. its a personal choice.. and i made mine years ago .

But when a slot lacks what people talked about for so long, and suddenly when the tension rises some employee advertises a fake big screenshot .. its not exactlya vendetta.
If one thing that getting older has taught me, its coincidences are rarer tha people assume :)

Enjoy the next 500x, or 1000x though.. To me, such a win on a a high variance game doesn't really raise it beyond a semi.
(nothing personal towards you btw, and i also don't beleive K have a vendetta.. I just followed my gutt from the off ) ..


edit. don't go to work without sleeping, then come home and have a few beers. you mayend up like me and not be arssed with correcting the feck knows how many abominations of spelling mistakes in the above)

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Imagine there was many similar type remakes of (iIm not trying to compare as such) doa2, as there are megaways. And they got the build up like btg, and were played like the btg megaways are. I'd be optimistic the big screenies would be plentiful from them. Not like the odd pubic hair or tooth (a mate had the privalidge of the latter) you might pick up from trying loads of kebab shops ;p
 
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I get that. I respect that. But if I see zn opportunity at a dig i take it ;p
Certainly wasn't thinking of you when I wrote that post mate! No sweat.

The thing we have to remember is that Bonanza sits in the same bracket as other slots with apparent insane potential e.g jammin jars and a lot of the pragmatics that boast insane win amounts. How often do we see 20,000 or 30,000x on those?

DOA and especially DOA2 I think have warped people's expectations on what you can realistically expect from a slot. Up until 2-3 years ago, 1000x was seen as an insane amount to win on a slot...now it seems as people almost expect it.

What people don't understand is that if you were to solely play DOA2 each session, 99.9% of those sessions would result in a loss of deposit. If you're happy with that then fair enough.

At least with BTG and others you can still be in with a chance of winning big money whilst keep ticking a long with the chance of an average cashout.
 
But when a slot lacks what people talked about for so long, and suddenly when the tension rises some employee advertises a fake big screenshot .. its not exactlya vendetta.

The fake screenshot was ages ago, in the beginning, when I didn't even know what BTG or Megaways is. Days after the release of Dragon Born I think, anyway, point is there was no drama or tension or anything before it.

But then Bonanza came out and I saw a link to the Bonanza thread and..... I was all over it! :D
I remember asking again and again and again what the potential is and what is the chance of a really big win.
Frustrated that I couldn't get a straight answer I tried any other possible way to figure it out, asked everyone with an inside knowledge, did the math...

Then I learned. Just a few months after the release of Bonanza, me and everybody else knew. There was no big potential, not really.

That was it. I didn't appreciate the secrecy and the false hope, but all I wanted was to know what the slot is. And I knew.
Secret was out. Like it or don't like it. All cool. But hate it? I don't see any reason for that.

Truth is there is potential on some other BTG games. We have seen it many times. We see it every month now with the car comp.
Lil Devil was kind to me on my few tries. Donuts is the one that is literally stealing money from my pockets!
 
The fake screenshot was ages ago, in the beginning, when I didn't even know what BTG or Megaways is. Days after the release of Dragon Born I think, anyway, point is there was no drama or tension or anything before it.

But then Bonanza came out and I saw a link to the Bonanza thread and..... I was all over it! :D
I remember asking again and again and again what the potential is and what is the chance of a really big win.
Frustrated that I couldn't get a straight answer I tried any other possible way to figure it out, asked everyone with an inside knowledge, did the math...

Then I learned. Just a few months after the release of Bonanza, me and everybody else knew. There was no big potential, not really.

That was it. I didn't appreciate the secrecy and the false hope, but all I wanted was to know what the slot is. And I knew.
Secret was out. Like it or don't like it. All cool. But hate it? I don't see any reason for that.

Truth is there is potential on some other BTG games. We have seen it many times. We see it every month now with the car comp.
Lil Devil was kind to me on my few tries. Donuts is the one that is literally stealing money from my pockets!

Still playing Queen of riches from time to time.
That slot still delivers wins in the 5000-20 000x range.
One day ill get one of them. :P
 
So we reach the enchanced feature, with 3k down at .50p and below approaching on a 96% RTP slot....

Truly DISGUSTING BTG


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Well its performance at Casumo in sept was on par with jammin jars which is no surprise to me TBH

Top Games (3 or more 2.000 x bet wins)

Jammin Jars – 15 wins
Lil Devil – 15 wins

Lately it just feels that players are really not getting to grips with or understanding what high or very high variance means........

When are people going to accept that massive potential feature hits makes for a crappy base game and vice versa.

Sounds like you need to find some slots that are a little less variant and more balanced RTP.
 
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Back in my good books again, 30p play got the enhanced feature well in profit, feature paid 350x.
Dont trust the game one bit though, too many shit screenshots


There would be far more shit screenshots of DOA2, and many other games but people get so many they just dont post em.......but they are certainly there.
 
Well its performance at Casumo in sept was on par with jammin jars which is no surprise to me TBH

Top Games (3 or more 2.000 x bet wins)

Jammin Jars – 15 wins
Lil Devil – 15 wins

Lately it just feels that players are really not getting to grips with or understanding what high or very high variance means........

When are people going to accept that massive potential feature hits makes for a crappy base game and vice versa.

Sounds like you need to find some slots that are a little less variant and more balanced RTP.

This in a nutshell.

As I said, it's almost as if people expect 1000x each session they play. This likely hasn't been helped by providers bigging up the potential of their slots and potential max win x stake and also streamers who seem to ping off big wins on a daily basis.
 
I can tell you now DOA2 would not have taken the same cash off me this fast, I have had loads of good wins on there 1000x etc not just a constant cash drain, after all I said b4 it then played worse than ever today as above.
 
I can tell you now DOA2 would not have taken the same cash off me this fast, I have had loads of good wins on there 1000x etc not just a constant cash drain, after all I said b4 it then played worse than ever today as above.

And this is my point, you have been lucky then to have had loads of 1000x wins on DOA2 I have played 40,000 spins over different sites and not had a win over 110x and I bet loads of players have had the similar experience on DOA2 its the nature of the beast.
 
To me it just sounds like some people have a vendetta against BTG. Let it go. Just because you can't hit on their slots, it doesn't mean no-one else can.

Besides, no-one is forcing you to play them.
To be fair I have had a blast on who wants to be a millionaire the past who months i hated it at first but I tell you something it’s a better game than bonanza I don’t hate btg I just hate
So after over 2k on .50p and below, thought I would give it another go....

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its rinsed me today this slot it’s on the banned list no feature and only two heart stoppers yuck
 
I see Certacas is a new member, how is the BTG office these days Sir? amazing hits don't know how you do it....

Haha :laugh:

I don't know how I do it either, but I did it again :)

And I might be a new member but I've been reading these forums for years, I only bothered to make an account to check if I had the biggest ever recorded multiplier win on the original DoA, I did not. My new goal is to get that record on this slot instead, preferably on €10 or above ;)

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High volatility, or as I like to call them, asymmetrical slots, are the only ones worth playing in my opinion. I treat them like World of Warcraft achievement hunting. You basically have to farm for that rare drop, while trying to maintain a decent balance between bet size versus losses, so that once you do get that big hit you at least break even overall. With regular (low-med variance) slots that's impossible, but with hyper win slots it can be done. Unless you're 'cursed', then you will just never get that drop you need and you will go broke of course, even at micro stakes :)
 
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Haha :laugh:

I don't know how I do it either, but I did it again :)

And I might be a new member but I've been reading these forums for years, I only bothered to make an account to check if I had the biggest ever recorded multiplier win on the original DoA, I did not. My new goal is to get that record on this slot instead, preferably on €10 or above ;)

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High volatility, or as I like to call them, asymmetrical slots, are the only ones worth playing in my opinion. I treat them like World of Warcraft achievement hunting. You basically have to farm for that rare drop, while trying to maintain a decent balance between bet size versus losses, so that once you do get that big hit you at least break even overall. With regular (low-med variance) slots that's impossible, but with hyper win slots it can be done. Unless you're 'cursed', then you will just never get that drop you need and you will go broke of course, even at micro stakes :)

Perfect example of gamblers fallacy.
 
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Perfect example of gamblers fallacy.

Is it? With a low-med variance slot, if you play it a lot you will go towards true RTP very fast and thus go broke eventually. This goes for all players of those slots, because you just can't win really big on them. There's no way to beat the math on these.

With ultra high variance slots there will be many, many people who go broke with hideous RTP and just quit the slot very fast. A few lucky people will get a (or multiple in my case) big or huge hit and get an RTP in the several hundreds or thousands %. Being up so much means you get a lot of free 'lottery tickets' for the 'ultra big one'. Of course the chances are the same for everyone, the difference with this slot is, you need to collect 40 hearts at a certain stake to get the highest chance of achieving this win. So the 'lottery tickets' on this slot are very expensive on average but can give huge returns. The nature of a slot like this is that it takes very very very long to achieve true RTP, most players will never achieve it.

In my opinion slots like these are the only ones where you can actually be lucky and get a lottery like win, even though if you kept playing the slot forever you would still lose just as much as an on the low-med variance ones.

Still counts as gamblers fallacy? If so, please explain why :)
 
Is it? With a low-med variance slot, if you play it a lot you will go towards true RTP very fast and thus go broke eventually. This goes for all players of those slots, because you just can't win really big on them. There's no way to beat the math on these.

With ultra high variance slots there will be many, many people who go broke with hideous RTP and just quit the slot very fast. A few lucky people will get a (or multiple in my case) big or huge hit and get an RTP in the several hundreds or thousands %. Being up so much means you get a lot of free 'lottery tickets' for the 'ultra big one'. Of course the chances are the same for everyone, the difference with this slot is, you need to collect 40 hearts at a certain stake to get the highest chance of achieving this win. So the 'lottery tickets' on this slot are very expensive on average but can give huge returns. The nature of a slot like this is that it takes very very very long to achieve true RTP, most players will never achieve it.

In my opinion slots like these are the only ones where you can actually be lucky and get a lottery like win, even though if you kept playing the slot forever you would still lose just as much as an on the low-med variance ones.

Still counts as gamblers fallacy? If so, please explain why :)
Your chasing a huge win based on a system that is designed to give you a feeling that your chances skyrocketed if you collected 40 hearts, but in reality your chance on a really big hit only increase a tiny bit. Gambling is just a matter of luck. In the end the maths will always catch up. Cause that's why the casino's are still here. Low volatility and high volatility is just a matter of how fast it eats your money. The only thing that keeps you ahead is winning and never play again ;)
 
Certa have you got any other pics of ultra wins on any other slots apart from BTG?
You should take a break , you keep hating on the game, but you keep playing it and posting screenshots of low wins. In reality you could make shit screenshots of every single game out there. You just have a really bad run on the game so don't play it. Just my 2 cents
 
Your chasing a huge win based on a system that is designed to give you a feeling that your chances skyrocketed if you collected 40 hearts, but in reality your chance on a really big hit only increase a tiny bit. Gambling is just a matter of luck. In the end the maths will always catch up. Cause that's why the casino's are still here. Low volatility and high volatility is just a matter of how fast it eats your money. The only thing that keeps you ahead is winning and never play again ;)

Of course the math will always catch up, I don't disagree there. For HV slots it just takes way more time to do so and the outliers are way more pronounced. That's why there's a bigger chance to be able to quit while ahead, if you happen to be the lucky outlier.

It's not a tiny increase, it's 5% (nines) - 30% (lizard), but we'll see what the first 50.000x win is going to be, a heartstopper or regular feature.
 
Of course the math will always catch up, I don't disagree there. For HV slots it just takes way more time to do so and the outliers are way more pronounced. That's why there's a bigger chance to be able to quit while ahead, if you happen to be the lucky outlier.

It's not a tiny increase, it's 5% (nines) - 30% (lizard), but we'll see what the first 50.000x win is going to be, a heartstopper or regular feature.
The nines increase 5 % says nothing of the reels bands are unknown. If a have a 0.0005 % at something and that increases with 5% , what are my chances then?
 
Having a crazy run since getting £45 weekend booster last Friday, been playing Devil for low stakes, 30p max and
got the balance up to £1750 but half of that was from a Dragons fire megaways feature.Been a good boy for a
change and withdrawn £1500.Waiting for Devil to turn shit,a BTG game just cant continually play this well.
Luckily it's not the type of game I would want to play for higher stakes so my winnings are pretty safe.
 
Haha :laugh:

I don't know how I do it either, but I did it again :)

And I might be a new member but I've been reading these forums for years, I only bothered to make an account to check if I had the biggest ever recorded multiplier win on the original DoA, I did not. My new goal is to get that record on this slot instead, preferably on €10 or above ;)

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High volatility, or as I like to call them, asymmetrical slots, are the only ones worth playing in my opinion. I treat them like World of Warcraft achievement hunting. You basically have to farm for that rare drop, while trying to maintain a decent balance between bet size versus losses, so that once you do get that big hit you at least break even overall. With regular (low-med variance) slots that's impossible, but with hyper win slots it can be done. Unless you're 'cursed', then you will just never get that drop you need and you will go broke of course, even at micro stakes :)

Sorry but I start to question your screens and your role within this thread.. No comment needed..

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I need to elaborate why I am thinking this.
Mathematically what are the odds of hitting big once or twice on a mega mega volatile slot like Lil Devil. The odds are truly truly ridiculously low and you keep getting massive wins on it where other players can't hit a 10x on it.
If your screens are genuine, so be it and my congratz to you but I find it highly unlikely a single player keeps hitting this kind of wins on a slot like this.

We had a dude on here years ago who produced tons of wild line and 5 scatter wins on DOA, on a rate that it was just sheer impossible.

All seasoned players know the odds of hitting something half decent on a mega volatile slot is as rare as winning £10.000 in the lotto or a scratch card.

Again, if genuine I apologize but I have my reservations.
 
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Sorry but I start to question your screens and your role within this thread.. No comment needed..

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I need to elaborate why I am thinking this.
Mathematically what are the odds of hitting big once or twice on a mega mega volatile slot like Lil Devil. The odds are truly truly ridiculously low and you keep getting massive wins on it where other players can't hit a 10x on it.
If your screens are genuine, so be it and my congratz to you but I find it highly unlikely a single player keeps hitting this kind of wins on a slot like this.

We had a dude on here years ago who produced tons of wild line and 5 scatter wins on DOA, on a rate that it was just sheer impossible.

All seasoned players know the odds of hitting something half decent on a mega volatile slot is as rare as winning £10.000 in the lotto or a scratch card.

Again, if genuine I apologize but I have my reservations.
Yeah they are small, but I once had two wildlines on DOA 1 back to back, that would also be really really low mathemeticly speaking
 
Sorry but I start to question your screens and your role within this thread.. No comment needed..

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I need to elaborate why I am thinking this.
Mathematically what are the odds of hitting big once or twice on a mega mega volatile slot like Lil Devil. The odds are truly truly ridiculously low and you keep getting massive wins on it where other players can't hit a 10x on it.
If your screens are genuine, so be it and my congratz to you but I find it highly unlikely a single player keeps hitting this kind of wins on a slot like this.

We had a dude on here years ago who produced tons of wild line and 5 scatter wins on DOA, on a rate that it was just sheer impossible.

All seasoned players know the odds of hitting something half decent on a mega volatile slot is as rare as winning £10.000 in the lotto or a scratch card.

Again, if genuine I apologize but I have my reservations.

The odds are ridiculously low but then again, I have this slot on autoplay all day basically since it released, so I have more spins played on this than anyone in the world probably. The wins are real.

For comparison, I used to only play DoA for about a year back in 2017, here are my wildline results:

In chronological order:

€ 2300,20 @ €0.9 --> 2555x
€ 3222,40 @ €0,9 --> 3580X
€ 1127,84 @ €0,36 --> 3132x
€ 910,24 @ €0,36 --> 2528x
€ 1318,56 @ €0,54 --> 2441x
€ 323,60 @ €0,45 --> 719x (probably only last free spin wildline)
€ 654,20 @ €0,45 --> 1453x
€ 1267,30 @ €0,45 --> 2816x
€ 961,00 @ €0,90 --> 1067x
€ 1329,20 @ €0,90 --> 1476x
€ 1283,15 @ €0,45 --> 2851x
€ 999,92 @ €0,36 --> 2777x
€ 1010,70 @ €0,45 --> 2246x
€ 4240,20 @ €1,35 --> 3140x
€ 2170,80 @ €1,35 --> 1608x
€ 2433,30 @ €1,35 --> 1802x
€ 1370,40 @ €0,45 --> 3045x
€ 2798,70 @ €1,35 --> 2073x
€ 6303,00 @ €2,70 --> 2334x
€ 3963,60 @ €1,35 --> 2936x
€19188,00 @ €4,50 --> 4264x (tilt play above sane stakes after not getting a bonus for hours)
€ 3257,60 @ €0,90 --> 3619x
€ 7371,60 @ €2,70 --> 2730x (only 5 wilds total!)
€27333,00 @ €2,70 --> 10123x (time to quit gambling)
€ 393,30 @ €0,09 --> 4370x (literally refused to re-deposit to continue playing at my usual stakes, of course this hits immediately afterwards)

So 25 wildlines apparently for almost €100K in winnings. Took me about a year though. Basically the only slot I played. A LOT. I had a 5 scatter 7 times I think.

I just play a lot as long as I'm ahead, I've had huge down streaks as well ...
 
Sorry but I start to question your screens and your role within this thread.. No comment needed..

EDIT:

I need to elaborate why I am thinking this.
Mathematically what are the odds of hitting big once or twice on a mega mega volatile slot like Lil Devil. The odds are truly truly ridiculously low and you keep getting massive wins on it where other players can't hit a 10x on it.
If your screens are genuine, so be it and my congratz to you but I find it highly unlikely a single player keeps hitting this kind of wins on a slot like this.

We had a dude on here years ago who produced tons of wild line and 5 scatter wins on DOA, on a rate that it was just sheer impossible.

All seasoned players know the odds of hitting something half decent on a mega volatile slot is as rare as winning £10.000 in the lotto or a scratch card.

Again, if genuine I apologize but I have my reservations.


I personally beleive that DOA screenshot dude you speak of was playing the game on multiple casinos at once, every single day during a time when bonuses were everywhere and often with very decent terms. The fact he (iirc) got banned here for saying to a casino "you can shove your bonus up your ass" during a dispute of which I think went to a PAB speaks volumes lol. It would also possibly explain why all his screen shots were on the same 2 bet sizes, and why he would never say anything when people questioned how an actual human can hit so many lines lol.
 
The odds are ridiculously low but then again, I have this slot on autoplay all day basically since it released, so I have more spins played on this than anyone in the world probably. The wins are real.

For comparison, I used to only play DoA for about a year back in 2017, here are my wildline results:

In chronological order:

€ 2300,20 @ €0.9 --> 2555x
€ 3222,40 @ €0,9 --> 3580X
€ 1127,84 @ €0,36 --> 3132x
€ 910,24 @ €0,36 --> 2528x
€ 1318,56 @ €0,54 --> 2441x
€ 323,60 @ €0,45 --> 719x (probably only last free spin wildline)
€ 654,20 @ €0,45 --> 1453x
€ 1267,30 @ €0,45 --> 2816x
€ 961,00 @ €0,90 --> 1067x
€ 1329,20 @ €0,90 --> 1476x
€ 1283,15 @ €0,45 --> 2851x
€ 999,92 @ €0,36 --> 2777x
€ 1010,70 @ €0,45 --> 2246x
€ 4240,20 @ €1,35 --> 3140x
€ 2170,80 @ €1,35 --> 1608x
€ 2433,30 @ €1,35 --> 1802x
€ 1370,40 @ €0,45 --> 3045x
€ 2798,70 @ €1,35 --> 2073x
€ 6303,00 @ €2,70 --> 2334x
€ 3963,60 @ €1,35 --> 2936x
€19188,00 @ €4,50 --> 4264x (tilt play above sane stakes after not getting a bonus for hours)
€ 3257,60 @ €0,90 --> 3619x
€ 7371,60 @ €2,70 --> 2730x (only 5 wilds total!)
€27333,00 @ €2,70 --> 10123x (time to quit gambling)
€ 393,30 @ €0,09 --> 4370x (literally refused to re-deposit to continue playing at my usual stakes, of course this hits immediately afterwards)

So 25 wildlines apparently for almost €100K in winnings. Took me about a year though. Basically the only slot I played. A LOT. I had a 5 scatter 7 times I think.

I just play a lot as long as I'm ahead, I've had huge down streaks as well ...


Okay that explains and with so many spins sure you might be lucky more often.
I was just checking if you were a genuine player.
I play quite often myself but not near as much as you do of course! ;)

So point taken man!
 
Wow, that retrigger spin was something else.

Didn't even know it could do that, don't think I've ever seen Danger do that.

These wins always happen to the most unbearable folk on the planet. :puke:

The only good part is now I know what it can do and it's better than danger!

I'd take this win on 20c! Pretty epic. And I'd be dancing like him too, just that nobody would see it :D
 

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