Laddies Feb Love-hearts....

[KasinoKing]

From the January scratchcard thread:-

Did I mention before that these scratchcards are rigged

Yes, it is what we all suspect about MG, if you bet really low, you tend to win more relative to your stake than those who bet bigger.

I have been playing 1.50 a spin, and have seen nothing like the 100 and 50 credit scratchcards that regularly fall into KK's lap

OK, OK, I admit it - they ARE rigged in my favour...

Here's my first heart this month....

 

[Nifty29]

Oh for the love of God......

BTW - what VWM said about getting duds when you have to request them - I had to ask for some last month from the promotions team and they were all losers, so maybe they can decide who wins and who doesnt....

I dunno how you do it KK, and I really dont..but congrats just the same

 

[winbig]

Yes, it's rigged. They just want KK to keep playing. They figure if he plays enough, he's going to lose all that he's won, and then some.

...little do they know....hehe

 

[vinylweatherman]

5, Zilch, and 10 is all I got.

Perhaps 50p is too much to bet - maybe I'll play ONE line at 1p and see if I get a decent heart



KK - Has your desire to beat the *&^% out of the Laddies promo divereted your attention from this:-

The 32Red Casinomeister Carnival is up and running with a 100% match bonus for TODAY ONLY

To get your FIRST STAR simply deposit 50 or more into your casino account on the 1st of February and before you start playing, ....etc....

This was a mere 50, but day 4 has yielded 164 plus 5 free spins on Hitman for completing all 3 challenges.

Thanks for your email.

Your account has been credited 164 for your play during day 4 of our carnival. Your free Hitman spins will be credited tomorrow and well email you when theyre ready to play.

Congratulations and thanks for being part of our carnival.

If I play tomorrow, and get my last star, it's ANOTHER 132

 

[winbig]

If I play tomorrow, and get my last star, it's ANOTHER 132

After losing how much to get it?

 

[cheekymonkey]

]:-

OK, OK, I admit it - they ARE rigged in my favour...

Here's my first heart this month....

Sick.

 

[KasinoKing]

KK - Has your desire to beat the *&^% out of the Laddies promo divereted your attention from this:- (32Red promo)

Well partly...
Some of us still have to go to a place called 'work' (you may remember that?), my dad's ill in hospital, my brother's coming to stay, housework duties , and some urgent upgrades to my website mean only about 10 minutes a day of actual playing time at the moment!
So I give those 10 minutes to Ladbrokes - I think they deserve it the amount they've been paying me!

I haven't even read the 32Red e-mail yet... !

 

[Slotster!]

I haven't even read the 32Red e-mail yet... !

I didn't even get it

Missed out on this one completely...

 

[AudiManinBoro]

Its not a bad promo is the 32 red one even if it is a little long drawn out. Still end reward is probs worth going through with it.

 

[cheekymonkey]

Its not a bad promo is the 32 red one even if it is a little long drawn out. Still end reward is probs worth going through with it.

I was slightly put it off by it.

I'd much rather just have the straight forward 132 as normal.

Too much like hard work for me at the moment.

 

[vinylweatherman]

I was slightly put it off by it.

I'd much rather just have the straight forward 132 as normal.

Too much like hard work for me at the moment.

I think it was designed that way, to get players playing on all 5 days rather than just getting their usual 50 or 132 and blowing it in one session.

I did rather well, achieving all the tasks, BUT, then along came Spring Break

I get one more go with the final 132 and 5 free spins on hitman - but despite this, I have never hit anything north of 1K at 32Red, no big bonus rounds, no decent Royal Flushes.
I got a free dinner out of them in London though

 

[Shocked]

Gah, I'm yet to win more than a tenner on this scratchcard promo - KK must be cherry picking the best cards and leaving the carp to us.

Let's lynch him.

 

[Zoozie]

I did the january scratchcard promotions almost every days and I received the
following cards:
10 *2
5 *16
0* 9

3 times I had to write to CS because I was not sent a scratchcard, and in all 3 cases the one I recieved was a 0 card. Anyone got a win on a card that was sent manually?

Here in February I have recieved:
5 *2
0*2


I must also admit that I only did very close to the minimum wagering requirement every day.

But if this somehow effects the 'random' scratchcards, they do not mention it.

So maybe KK is simply just playing a lot and maybe dropped 100 in the slots the day before he receives a 100 win.

Of course the lucky people tend to post their winnings most, so maybe I have just had an average win. But I still think my winning sucks compared to how much I have wagered on 95% slots and lost to get the cards.

 

[vinylweatherman]

It's been tighter still this month

So far, only ONE incident of inept CS - so quite an improvement on January

so far:-

2x Bugger all
3x 5
1x 10

Worse, it is not a "half price" sale, and a 50 deposit and wager is needed as per usual.

I await KK's next posting of a 100 Love Heart

 

[KasinoKing]

I await KK's next posting of a 100 Love Heart

Don't hold your breath!

So far I've had 100, 0, 0, 10 & 10

Re Zoozies post; Wagered 57, 62, 58, 56 & 77

I have regretfully been trying "Wheel of Spectacular Crap - Extra Manure Edition";
In the first 5 days play I lost 57 on that & 13 on Mark of Madusssszzzzzzzz.
Plus another 30 on Mark today means I am only 20 up for the month so far...

Still time, still time...

 

[paul02085]

Don't hold your breath!

So far I've had 100, 0, 0, 10 & 10

Re Zoozies post; Wagered 57, 62, 58, 56 & 77

I have regretfully been trying "Wheel of Spectacular Crap - Extra Manure Edition";
In the first 5 days play I lost 57 on that & 13 on Mark of Madusssszzzzzzzz.
Plus another 30 on Mark today means I am only 20 up for the month so far...

Still time, still time...

KK, you havent hit 100 in 4 straight cards. You are overdue for a 100:notworthy

 

[Nifty29]

OK - yet another zero. Ive had 6 cards now and all of them zero.

Laddies can bite me Im afraid. You would think they would at least throw you a fiver.

 

[vinylweatherman]

OK - yet another zero. Ive had 6 cards now and all of them zero.

Laddies can bite me Im afraid. You would think they would at least throw you a fiver.

I've had all the fivers

KK STILL GOT ONE 100 though

With 9 cards, the best I have had is ONE 10, and already have FOUR losers

They sent me TWO cards yesterday, BOTH LOSERS

It seems they have tightened up this one further than in January, yet have doubled the cost of participating.

Feels almost like a bait & switch for those lured in to play these by the huge payouts seen on the November and December scratchcards (me included).


EDIT

Another bloody fiver

 

[KasinoKing]

Feels almost like a bait & switch for those lured in to play these by the huge payouts seen on the November and December scratchcards (me included).

They got me too - I've now slipped into the red...

I hope they change the slots mid-month again, I don't think I can play these two much longer without vomiting...

 

[vinylweatherman]

They got me too - I've now slipped into the red...

I hope they change the slots mid-month again, I don't think I can play these two much longer without vomiting...

I am sure they will, as there is no mention of it in the terms, just like last time

 

[Dewberry]

I haven't won anything here for ages although I have deposited quite a lot.
Got 3 Love Hearts and not a winner amongst them.

It's quite disappointing, I really expected to get at least a minimum amount. I'm barfing too.

 

[chuchu59]

They got me too - I've now slipped into the red...

I hope they change the slots mid-month again, I don't think I can play these two much longer without vomiting...

Gotcha! Rarely do I hear of you getting into the red.

It's the Year of the Rat now and I dearly hope your pop gets well soon if that hasnt already happened.

 

[Zoozie]

And the last two wins for me was 0 as well. I am out of this promotion, period.
Never seen a 15,25,50 or 100 win out of 40 tickets, and even the 10 win was very rare. Total ticket win is 105 or 110, but wagering loss is 200-250.

And I agree what Mark of the Medusa sucks , if it was just Mega Moolah again I would continue the promotion.

Actually I also hate the 'random draw' promotions and rarely participate because there is no way I am sure the promotion is fair/random.

 

[cheekymonkey]

Actually I also hate the 'random draw' promotions and rarely participate because there is no way I am sure the promotion is fair/random.

Yup. I agree entirely.

It's a complete load of bollocks.

 

[winbig]

And the last two wins for me was 0 as well. I am out of this promotion, period.
Never seen a 15,25,50 or 100 win out of 40 tickets, and even the 10 win was very rare. Total ticket win is 105 or 110, but wagering loss is 200-250.

And I agree what Mark of the Medusa sucks , if it was just Mega Moolah again I would continue the promotion.

Actually I also hate the 'random draw' promotions and rarely participate because there is no way I am sure the promotion is fair/random.

Actually, it may be completely random - to an extent.

The scenario that comes to mind is that they have certain 'pools' of tickets they use to send out. Each pool would have a maximum expectation of what you will win from any one ticket. ie: pool1: 15 max pool2: 50 max pool3: 100 max. Also, they could stick more duds in each pool...with the lowest pool having more duds than others...this would explain KK's frequent hits.

The pool you're in could be based on a number of factors:
How long you've been a player with the casino
Average deposit amount
Number of deposits during the last week/month/year
etc, etc..

 

[KasinoKing]

It's the Year of the Rat now and I dearly hope your pop gets well soon if that hasnt already happened.

Thanks for that. He's out of hospital now & more comfortable but I'm afraid it's just a matter of time.
He is 84 so he's 'had a good innings'.

The scenario that comes to mind is that they have certain 'pools' of tickets they use to send out. Each pool would have a maximum expectation of what you will win from any one ticket. ie: pool1: 15 max pool2: 50 max pool3: 100 max. Also, they could stick more duds in each pool...with the lowest pool having more duds than others...this would explain KK's frequent hits...

Well I'm definitely in the right pool - had another 100 yesterday!

But I'm thinking of giving up on the promo this month, this is my last 4 days on the Mark of Manure slot:-
Wagered 69, Lost 30
Wagered 65, Lost 28
Wagered 60, Lost 41
Wagered 65, Lost 39
... 280 spins with no free-spin feature!

This slot is so bad it almost makes the Sneak a Peek ones look good!

Hmmmm... just checked today's heart... OK, one more go then!

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[Nifty29]

Thanks for that. He's out of hospital now & more comfortable but I'm afraid it's just a matter of time.
He is 84 so he's 'had a good innings'.


Well I'm definitely in the right pool - had another 100 yesterday!

But I'm thinking of giving up on the promo this month, this is my last 4 days on the Mark of Manure slot:-
Wagered 69, Lost 30
Wagered 65, Lost 28
Wagered 60, Lost 41
Wagered 65, Lost 39
... 280 spins with no free-spin feature!

This slot is so bad it almost makes the Sneak a Peek ones look good!

Hmmmm... just checked today's heart... OK, one more go then!

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*** PUKE ***

 

[vinylweatherman]

Nothing but an endless stream of Bloody FIVERS, and now I HATE that "Mark of Manure" slot even more than KK does
It's a complete waste of space, it NEVER does anything interesting, even the bonus rounds are crap, and you can forget EVER going anywhere but rapidly downhill on the reel payouts.

Last Month, I was getting a fair distribution of wins between 10 and 5, as well as a couple of 15 to 25, but this month seems so much tighter it simply CANNOT be explained away by the excuse of "random". They must have altered the distribution of prizes in the pool such that the expectation per ticket has been sharply reduced. Maybe the payouts were enhanced over Christmas, and now we have the "switch" part from the earlier "bait".

What has finally done it for me is the second CS cock-up, the non-credit of my recent, and measly, 5 heart.

The ONLY good thing to say about Ladbrokes is that they pay far faster than most for a non-flushed withdrawal.

I will need some more exiting games to be drawn back in again.

 

[KasinoKing]

Yesterday was yet another heap of manure on the slot:-
Wagered 60, Lost 28

And today's Love Heart was..... ZERO.

But finally today, the day I vowed this would be my last go, not only did the feature hit on my very first spin - 451 spins since the last feature - but it re-triggered on the just the 2nd free-spin! See below.

This returned 73.48 which was nice, but then I still had the wagering to do & it proceeded to steal another 33 off me in 55 worth of spins - so I still hate it!
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[Shocked]

I think they have finally flipped the generousitometer switch after forgetting about it for most of the month. Retriggered 3 times..leading to a nice 170.

Still getting pants love hearts - either 10..or more usually buggerall

 

[vinylweatherman]

They just keep breaking my heart with all their mediocre support, Crap Crackers, Silly Scratchcards, and Hopeless hearts.

Today is Valentine's day, and.....


Ladbrokes,

You're DUMPED

I'm "seeing" another casino now

 

[winbig]

They just keep breaking my heart with all they mediocre support, Crap Crackers, Silly Scratchcards, and Hopeless hearts.

Today is Valentine's day, and.....


Ladbrokes,

You're DUMPED

I'm "seeing" another casino now

Oh, my....That sucks. A "Dear John" letter on Valentines day! :sniff:

 

[vinylweatherman]

Oh, my....That sucks. A "Dear John" letter on Valentines day! :sniff:

More like a "Dear Ladbrokes" letter

Perhaps they should have thought of that after giving me 2 ZERO hearts, followed by yet another "bloody fiver", and then not even crediting it!

Had the promotional games been better, I might have gone out on further "dates", but not if all that is on offer is that Mark of Manure and Craptacular Wheel of Poverty.

 

[cheekymonkey]

About f*****g time.

 

[KasinoKing]

Well things have certainly taken a turn for the better here!
I wont reveal my latest lot of scratchcards in case VWM sends round a lynch mob ... so I'll just say I am now well in the black, despite losing 151 to-date on Mark of Manure

I switched back to playing Crapactular Wheel of Wroth, but had good results Friday (+1), and yesterday (+37).
Yesterday I was amazed to get the 3 bonus symbols NINE times in 119 spins!
Not only that, the 2 times I actually picked 'WOW' & went to the wheel it gave me x800!
Here's the second one @ 1 (the first one I was only betting 50p):-
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[tristan727]

I mean, how rubbish a promo is one where they advertise the following prizes...0, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100 & sometimes ipods...but you play it over 3 months and not once win anything better than a tenner.

They should be honest and admit that either some customers have been selected to never win anything big, or that the chances of any of the top half of the prizes being won, are a thousand to one or suchlike.

 

[Zoozie]

I mean, how rubbish a promo is one where they advertise the following prizes...0, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100 & sometimes ipods...but you play it over 3 months and not once win anything better than a tenner.

They should be honest and admit that either some customers have been selected to never win anything big, or that the chances of any of the top half of the prizes being won, are a thousand to one or suchlike.

I feel your pain... And even hitting the 10 was rare. Like I said before I am not quite sure it is random. Did you wager close to the minimum requirements?
I think the bonus depends on your wagering and maybe loss as well.

 

[tristan727]

yes minimum mainly - but a few times I tried wagering triple or so of the required...made no difference to the card.

 

[chuchu59]

This sucks. What they should at least do is to give you an extra card if you string up 2 noughts in a row. At least this frustrates you less.

 

[cheekymonkey]

I mean, how rubbish a promo is one where they advertise the following prizes...0, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100 & sometimes ipods...but you play it over 3 months and not once win anything better than a tenner.

They should be honest and admit that either some customers have been selected to never win anything big, or that the chances of any of the top half of the prizes being won, are a thousand to one or suchlike.

It's just dawned on me how KK has been receiving all the juicy cards.

He has been up all night and day banging away in his cubbyhole making personalised keyrings for all the customer support agents at Ladbrokes!!

Nice one KK!!!

 

[KasinoKing]

He has been up all night and day banging away in his cubbyhole making personalised keyrings for all the customer support agents at Ladbrokes!!
Nice one KK!!!

Dang - you sussed me out!

I'm starting to feel very guilty now, because I seem to be the only one here getting some decent scratchies. I don't think it's anything to do with playing/depositing style, at least I hope not - I would hate to think of any promotion like this not being truly random

As posted earlier, I am only wagering 5 to 25% more than the minimum each day on the designated slots, and very rarely playing any other games at all.

I hope everyone else playing this starts getting some biggies!

 

[KasinoKing]

I hope everyone else playing this starts getting some biggies!

... I guess not judging by the lack of replies

Well against my expectations this turned into another very successful promo for me! Here is my summary, having played the last day of the month today so having just one more scratchcard to come:-

Mark of Manure: Played on 11 days, wagered 671, return -186
Wheel of Crap: Played on 16 days, wagered 1,018, return -109
Total lost 295

But.... scratchcards awarded:
0 x 5
5 x 4
10 x 10
15 x 0
20 x 0
50 x 3
100 x 4!
Total (with one to come) = 670.

Did anyone get any 15's or 20's?

So at the end of the month & can only say 5-bonuses! In other words....

 

[winbig]

KK, how many deposits did you make to get those $100 cards?

This thing sounds more and more unrandom after every post...

 

[Slotster!]

KK, how many deposits did you make to get those $100 cards?

This thing sounds more and more unrandom after every post...

But KK, in a funny kind of way, is the WORST type of customer a casino could wish for!!! He's controlled, sensible - and plays to win, never going crazy and pouring the winnings back in the heat of the moment! In fact, the exact opposite of me

What I'm saying is, if I were 'organising' the competition in my casino's favour, the last type of player I'd be encouraging and rewarding is KK!!!

He got lucky. Well played!

 

[vinylweatherman]

Just to put the cat among the laddies pigeons, i'll give this theory.

The tournament is NOT RANDOM, it is the NUMBER OF SPINS PLAYED, and not the amount deposited, wagered, won, or lost. The more spins played, the better the card, cracker, or broken heart supplied, ON AVERAGE.

KK bets low, really low, and makes many more spins.

I was betting higher, over 1 a spin at first, then down to 50p later. KK was playing Mark of Manure at 25p, and thus making twice the spins I did.

Others may not have replied having joined me in giving up altogether mid month as I could stand that BLOODY GAME NO MORE!!! (as well as CS yet again screwing up by never crediting the last but one miserable FIVER heart)

 

[Slotster!]

Casino's really are not stupid enough to 'reward' the most number of spins! They see "a cash amount in" minus "a cash amount out" = margin. Whatever pretty stuff happens inbetween to make that happen is incidental.

 

[Zoozie]

The March slot promotions looks better.
Every day you get 5 ( 50 deposit+50 wager). If you play all 7 days in a week (Monday to Sunday), you will get 10/day instead.

So if I remember to play every day, then the bonus will be about 3*times higher
compared to what I got from the scatchcards in average.

And Mega Moolah allowed, so I will try Laddies another try.

 

[KasinoKing]

The tournament is NOT RANDOM, it is the NUMBER OF SPINS PLAYED, and not the amount deposited, wagered, won, or lost. The more spins played, the better the card, cracker, or broken heart supplied, ON AVERAGE.

KK bets low, really low, and makes many more spins.

Oh you conspiracy theorists!
I didn't micro-roll the whole time - some of my spins were at 1.50.
I personally believe that A) It's completely random and B) I'm a jammy bugger!

The March slot promotions looks better.
Every day you get 5 ( 50 deposit+50 wager). If you play all 7 days in a week (Monday to Sunday), you will get 10/day instead.

So if I remember to play every day, then the bonus will be about 3*times higher compared to what I got from the scratchcards in average.

And Mega Moolah allowed, so I will try Laddies another try.

It's x2 if you do all 7 days = 70 per week. So to profit you have to wager a minimum of 350/week without losing more than 70, therefore you need the return to be 80% or more.
Theoretically it should be another good promo for us players

Be warned however, last time they ran this promo (June & July last year) it was 100/day on Thunderstruck & Tomb Raider and I lost a fricking packet. In fact, at the time I vowed to NEVER play these two games again, but I guess time heals all wounds...

 

[Zoozie]

So to profit you have to wager a minimum of 350/week without losing more than 70, therefore you need the return to be 80% or more.
Theoretically it should be another good promo for us players

Yes, it seems like a real promotion this time. Without the jackpot-wheel Mega Moolah has 88.11% payout and is a low/medium variance slot, which means you will get close to the expected payout. With the jackpot-wheel and current size of the two high jackpots the payout is probably at least 95% (pure guess).

 

[vinylweatherman]

I'll have to look at this, seems +EV, and with no luck of the scratchcards involved.

I might wait and do the last three weeks though, and get 10 a time.

I am often a "jammy bugger" when it comes to low rolling on Thunderstruck