Is it allowed to be multiple players per account?

Matt Saracen

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Hello! I was watching a little bit of slots play on Youtube just now and came across the channel LetsGiveItASpin (
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) where there in many videos are multiple players playing, also sometimes while the "main guy" goes to the bathroom or does some other none slots playing activity another guy or girl takes over and continues playing on the same account. Is this really allowed or is it against the T&C's of most Casinos?

For example at the 2:15:40 mark in this video:
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Tirilej

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They don't pay anything. They can't win. I would think it's allowed since it's only for entertainment purpose and the person having the account is responsible.
As long as the player isn't underage it's fine with me.

Now how many couple's are there all over the world that are sharing one account? Would you go after them all? ;)
 

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Pretty much not per t&c's at most casinos. But unless you are streaming, how would they really know?

I expect streamers ask permission, and get it cleared first.

I know there are a lot of couples that just have one account, and take turns hitting the spin button. It's not a bad way for a couple to have a bit of fun without getting a sitter and paying cabs etc to go out.

I've never let anyone play on any of my accounts, but on a Friday night my former roomie would come in while I was playing, and sometimes on the pick em kind of bonuses, I'd ask for her choices while we had a beer together.

Really, it's slots. What kind of advantage can you possibly gain by someone else hitting the spin button?

It might matter for tournaments, so if there's 80 hours of straight play it may be questioned.

Generally speaking, the more you spin, the more you lose, so if you and the missus want to do this for marathon sessions or to clear wagering on a bonus that has a short time frame, you could always email and ask first to be on the safe side.
 

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Hello! I was watching a little bit of slots play on Youtube just now and came across the channel LetsGiveItASpin (
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) where there in many videos are multiple players playing, also sometimes while the "main guy" goes to the bathroom or does some other none slots playing activity another guy or girl takes over and continues playing on the same account. Is this really allowed or is it against the T&C's of most Casinos?

For example at the 2:15:40 mark in this video:
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Its one account. the money that goes in is from LetsGiveitaSPins - bank or whatever method he uses - if he wins - which isnt often these days - the money goes back to him - yes he has friends round yes they sonetines play when hes out of the room as he lets them have a few spins. Its still one account .

Are you telling me that all the millions of people who play off camera never let ther partner, brother ,sister, friend have a few spins for fun or whatever .

As the Casino often have a rep in the chat of LetsGiveitaspins stream they obviously have no problems with this . Why would they really its one account !
 

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Hello! I was watching a little bit of slots play on Youtube just now and came across the channel LetsGiveItASpin (
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) where there in many videos are multiple players playing, also sometimes while the "main guy" goes to the bathroom or does some other none slots playing activity another guy or girl takes over and continues playing on the same account. Is this really allowed or is it against the T&C's of most Casinos?

For example at the 2:15:40 mark in this video:
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Per T&C's like Jazzy stated it's mostly prohibited, but as Tiri and Borgie said, it's really just one account, and no real harm can be done, or fraud committed.

They don't pay anything. They can't win. I would think it's allowed since it's only for entertainment purpose and the person having the account is responsible.
As long as the player isn't underage it's fine with me.

Now how many couple's are there all over the world that are sharing one account? Would you go after them all? ;)

I will go after all the couples, but only the women:p

Pretty much not per t&c's at most casinos. But unless you are streaming, how would they really know?

I expect streamers ask permission, and get it cleared first.

I know there are a lot of couples that just have one account, and take turns hitting the spin button. It's not a bad way for a couple to have a bit of fun without getting a sitter and paying cabs etc to go out.

I've never let anyone play on any of my accounts, but on a Friday night my former roomie would come in while I was playing, and sometimes on the pick em kind of bonuses, I'd ask for her choices while we had a beer together.

Really, it's slots. What kind of advantage can you possibly gain by someone else hitting the spin button?

It might matter for tournaments, so if there's 80 hours of straight play it may be questioned.

Generally speaking, the more you spin, the more you lose, so if you and the missus want to do this for marathon sessions or to clear wagering on a bonus that has a short time frame, you could always email and ask first to be on the safe side.

Good point about the tourney's hadn't even thought of that (you scammer, you! :p)

Its one account. the money that goes in is from LetsGiveitaSPins - bank or whatever method he uses - if he wins - which isnt often these days - the money goes back to him - yes he has friends round yes they sonetines play when hes out of the room as he lets them have a few spins. Its still one account .

Are you telling me that all the millions of people who play off camera never let ther partner, brother ,sister, friend have a few spins for fun or whatever .

As the Casino often have a rep in the chat of LetsGiveitaspins stream they obviously have no problems with this . Why would they really its one account !

I even had my cat spin the button on occassion :D ..won the jackpot, and was denied pay-out due to breach of multiple persons in one household, but sued them and won, on grounds of my cat not being a real person after all (although i sometimes really loathe his personality:p) Of course the last part of this sentence is quite made up, but let's blame the lack of coffee and the 7 joints i smoked so far. :lolup:
 

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Jesus, it's the last thing I'd tell the casino, not that it matters if someone takes over clicking duties, but I'd rather avoid giving them the chance to diddle me with 'multiple players' or 'multiple accounts' terms thankyou very much.

It shouldn't really matter at all who takes over spinning, it's not something they'd be able to verify or particularly care about. The buck stops with the 'main' player and whether the person taking over is an adult too. And of sound mind - you don't want to come back and see them do £20 bets when you come back! :eek:
 

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Jesus, it's the last thing I'd tell the casino, not that it matters if someone takes over clicking duties, but I'd rather avoid giving them the chance to diddle me with 'multiple players' or 'multiple accounts' terms thankyou very much.

It shouldn't really matter at all who takes over spinning, it's not something they'd be able to verify or particularly care about. The buck stops with the 'main' player and whether the person taking over is an adult too. And of sound mind - you don't want to come back and see them do £20 bets when you come back! :eek:

Indeed only difference is when you stream everybody can see . Once Letsgiveitaspin let his partner take over and she managed to lose almost the entire balance in one spin by changing the bet size incorrectly . It was a double eek ! He took it on the chin as you have to if somebody else spins for you, as you say the buck stops with the main player.
 

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The only reason casinos wouldn't like multiple people on one account is if there's really only one person playing and the "hosts" are just there to let the one person keep taking welcome bonuses on the same site . Or to let someone underage play on someone else's account (they probably don't really care about this in practise) . Or a banned player etc . Like JasmineBed said there's no advantage to be had by someone else pressing the spin button
There must be some advantage though by a few players pooling together resources for one account and playing higher stakes and maybe becoming VIP and getting perks ? Risky though for the players involved since if they hit the jackpot then they'd have no legal recourse against the owner of the account if he decided to run off with the money
 

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I don't see a problem if Kim lets Reggie, Andreas or Maja take spins or when Cezar and Melissa take turns. It's still one account under one person. If it's been allowed for this long then there's no issues.
 

Naok777

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The problem is that the casino only does KYC on the person the account is registered to, so the casino is potentially breaking the law / gambling license if they knowingly tolerate someone other than the registered account holder pressing spin even once.

And what do you think would happen if you got a massive win like for example 5 scatters at max bet on DoA?
It would be naive to believe the casino would actually pay up if there was even the slightest indication that anyone other than the registered account holder had access to the account, especially if someone is dumb enough to stream their t&c breach.
 

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I would have thought all of this moot.

Does not matter who is clicking the mouse, setting the auto spin etc.

As long as the casino account holders details are fully KYC'ed and all financial transactions (deposits/withdrawals etc) undertaken come from bank accounts / e-wallets which match the casino accounts holders details then I really cannot see the problem.

Crappy comparison some might say but if in a casino playing slots and I take a piss and ask missues to carry on spinning I'd not fear for my winnings etc.
 

Jasminebed

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I think every casino I've ever signed up to had a term that only the account holder was to play on the account.

So don't stream it, and don't go to support and say I went to the bathroom and my wife/mother/cousin/cat placed a max bet and won!

And don't take shifts where the play is pretty much 24/7 for longer than a day.

Mum's the word.
 

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Don't some streamers pool money together to play super monopoly money at high stakes on 1 account, don't know why Iv worded that as a question as Iv watched it many times :lolup:

I think that is breaking the terms and conditions as the winnings would be split, not that your gonna win on that game! :D
 

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Basically its not allowed to let other people play on your account with most licence in the EU. However Im sure that bigger streamer gets a written consent from the casino that they would be allowed to have other people playing on their account. Then the casino probably would do KYC on these players and in theory should inform the regulator.

However, as long as the player gets a written consent that name X is allowed to play on their account. It falls under the casino's responsibility and the player should be safe.
 

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Basically its not allowed to let other people play on your account with most licence in the EU. However Im sure that bigger streamer gets a written consent from the casino that they would be allowed to have other people playing on their account. Then the casino probably would do KYC on these players and in theory should inform the regulator.

However, as long as the player gets a written consent that name X is allowed to play on their account. It falls under the casino's responsibility and the player should be safe.

The real biggie is that players are of age. I won't get into ethics or morality of letting your teenager play, just don't make it known if you do. And certainly don't stream it.
 

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When streaming my play I have authorisation from the casino that my wife can play on my account. But that point is moot because she doesn't like playing slots so will never spin the reels
 

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In terms it clearly states its your responsibility to look after account and pretty sure its agains the rules, BUT if you get permission from the casino than I canot see any real harm, I have thought about this before hand,
It could be an advantage as been pointed out, Such as pulled players all chipping in etc, more perks and more chance to win the big completions,

If a casino are letting streamers show there play with other non acount holders playing than isnt that asking for trouble, Its a big advert for multiple pool players.

If I made a thread and said myself, Jon, Harry, JD, and a load more have all added our funds and we are raking in the prize pools, Top spot on all tourneys etc, Most spins, I am sure we would all be banned from casino and there will be an up roar from other players,

I mean casino bang on about gangs of players and how they rinse the casinos whats the difference here? Only this time the pulled players are ripping us single players from all top spots in comps,


Ok so I guess there is many people that do it, Pulled together or just having a spin, But showing on live stream is risky and I am shocked to see a casino will alow this, Clearly its not just a spin and no harm done, They clearly pull together with even other streamers as well, Again there is no harm done really unless there winning lots of comps and top prize,
 

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It's up to the streamers to take the risk . Clearly they are playing on the same account together for entertainment purposes only . Now if the casino which they are promoting then decides to throw the rule book at them then that's for the streamer to deal with . I mean let's not get the haters involved saying "look at them breaking the rules !!" because it's clear the streamers do it to try and keep their streams fresh/interesting and they are not trying to gain any advantage against other players

Private groups trying to win races and such is annoying but pretty much unstoppable for the most part
 

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As live streaming in Social Media grows problems are starting to pop up. What I mean by this is I doubt that any casino had this scenario in mind when writing the t&c's. I wonder how long will it take them to catch up? What worries me is that newbies might watch streams like this and think that it's okay to do things like using other peoples money to play slots on their accounts or other such things. For sure this particular situation with letsgiveitaspin is a grey area perhaps with a big toe in the red no no area.
 

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As live streaming in Social Media grows problems are starting to pop up. What I mean by this is I doubt that any casino had this scenario in mind when writing the t&c's. I wonder how long will it take them to catch up? What worries me is that newbies might watch streams like this and think that it's okay to do things like using other peoples money to play slots on their accounts or other such things. For sure this particular situation with letsgiveitaspin is a grey area perhaps with a big toe in the red no no area.

That is the big trouble when people see others do it than they might think its ok, someone might sign up and get hes mates to from same house or play all all on one account, Get into some trouble and say my friend was using my account and bet to much, HOLD ON a friend was using your account? Yes as I see a streamer doing it and thought it was ok,

But than how can you expect a streamer to point all the do's and donts? Thats why I stated that casino it self has to be carfull of what they allow others to do, I see no harm in what he is doing but is it a rule breaker??
Also as long as no advantage such as competitions and all that, This VS one is a two day avent and they can take shifts, I mean where is the line drawn?
 

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That is the big trouble when people see others do it than they might think its ok, someone might sign up and get hes mates to from same house or play all all on one account, Get into some trouble and say my friend was using my account and bet to much, HOLD ON a friend was using your account? Yes as I see a streamer doing it and thought it was ok,

But than how can you expect a streamer to point all the do's and donts? Thats why I stated that casino it self has to be carfull of what they allow others to do, I see no harm in what he is doing but is it a rule breaker??
Also as long as no advantage such as competitions and all that, This VS one is a two day avent and they can take shifts, I mean where is the line drawn?

I am not even sure that the casino thought it out fully before letting people stream on their casino (if that is the case here). I see a few PAB's in the future with some elements of these scenarios.
 

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I am not even sure that the casino thought it out fully before letting people stream on their casino (if that is the case here). I see a few PAB's in the future with some elements of these scenarios.

No casino can stop a streamer broadcasting live on Twitch or YouTube and playing their slots.

Some casinos have deals with streamers in the sense that the steamer gets something in return other than affiliate commission such as raffle or giveaways.

Casinos can easily distance themselves from a streamer so any future PAB's may not work if comparisons are made.
 

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I would be interested to ask Casino Daddy what their arrangement with the casinos they stream for is. They are 3 brothers from Sweden. They take it in turns to play - often the other two are in the room too . Now I "think" they have a "joint account" - they are genuine before anyone says they use fake money they show their deposits and withdrawals but I know at least 2 of them have their bank cards linked to the account for funding purposes from comments they have made.

The other day whilst one of them was streaming he talked about how much he had been losing off stream on his OWN account at this particular casino.

So it sounds like they may have a special account where the casino knows all 3 of them will be playing ?
 

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No casino can stop a streamer broadcasting live on Twitch or YouTube and playing their slots.

Some casinos have deals with streamers in the sense that the steamer gets something in return other than affiliate commission such as raffle or giveaways.

Casinos can easily distance themselves from a streamer so any future PAB's may not work if comparisons are made.

Agreed but this can run into dangerous territory. Streamers win big while several players are accessing account, casino then refuses to pay as per t&c's major headache.

Seriously I really think casinos ought to be more responsible!

I have two problems,

1. Casino making special deals with streamers such as this and pay then when they win when in every other case of another player using an account winnings would get confiscated. NOT FAIR.

2. Casino in respect of streamers such as this flaunt their own t&c's openly and this is not a good precedent to set. I feel strongly in this respect.


Now that casinos are aware that people live stream their sessions then they REALLY NEED to implement new terms into their t&c's so that both player and casinos are protected and clear boundaries are in place.

/rant over
 
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