Horse Racing & Tips Thread

Verry Elleegant came in 7th, so does that mean you are a winner...of sorts?

Just hope that Anthony Van Dyke is not seriously injured. He is a beautiful horse.

To edit: Just heard the dreadful news that AVD has been humanely euthanised - a fetlock/forelock injury, not sure which. In shock, as he looked so healthy in the mounting yard.
Yes, I got a return for the first time ever on the Melbourne Cup, thanks for the advice.
Always sad to see horses get injured, and awful when they lose their life.
 
Wichita the other day in a paddock accident at Werribee, and now AVD - both Aidan O'Brien trained horses. The stable must be in shock. Truly heartbreaking.

Are Australian conditions too tough, or is the weight the horses carry (in the case of AVD) too much, or is it just one of those things?

Anyway, truly heartbreaking.
 
Wichita the other day in a paddock accident at Werribee, and now AVD - both Aidan O'Brien trained horses. The stable must be in shock. Truly heartbreaking.

Are Australian conditions too tough, or is the weight the horses carry (in the case of AVD) too much, or is it just one of those things?

Anyway, truly heartbreaking.
I would think it’s most likely the firm ground that’s caused, I would have thought the ground would be the fastest/firmest they would have encountered and when they are rattling down on that ground any minor fragility they may have had would most likely have been magnified/ weakened further.
Unfortunately it’s just one of these things, thousands of horses will race on these conditions with no ill effect but there will always be exceptions.
 
Kerrin McEvoy has been fined AUD$50k for excessive use of the whip on Tiger Moth. He has also been suspended.

McEvoy pleaded guilty to the charge after it was found he hit his mount Tiger Moth 13 times before the 100-metre mark and 21 times in total. He is not permitted to strike his mount more than five times before the 100-metre mark.

Does this not mean that Tiger Moth had an unfair advantage due to this, and other horses might have had a better chance if the rules weren't so flagrantly broken by McEvoy?

Also, regarding the conditions:

Stewards also noted that Oceanex (11th) and Persan (fifth) suffered heat stress after the Melbourne Cup and that Prince Of Arran emerged from the race with a laceration to his left fore-leg.

PS: You can tell I really know nothing about racing, but I am trying to learn.
 
No it's more along the lines of it coming across as animal cruelty to whip a horse even though in racing circles it's a well known fact it very very rarely hurts or marks a horse. Even though it has happened.

Aiden O Briens Stable is not far from here 45 mins or so in ballydoyle. While he and his team will be greatly saddened by the death it was a freak occurrence on ground harder than the horse is used to. This may sound heartless but it will hurt his team less than others. In 99% of stables AVD would be the stable star. In O'Brien's he is another good one. Harsh I know but true. This loss hurts. Its horrendous to see happen to any horse but it would hurt financially for example a lot more for other operations than coolmore.


As regards the heat affect. Bound to happen. It's the race that stops a nation. The biggest in Australian racing therefore they go harder and faster over longer distances than normal. It is almost double the distance of the cox plate for example. Injustices and injuries are bound to occur. Similar to the grand national in aintree.

I bet tiger moth ew so recovered most of my bets.

Delighted for Joseph. He is showing a real knack for this race. Two wins in 4 years
 
@geordiecolin : You said you love underdog success stories, so here is another one.

Tears I cry won the G1 Emirates stake back in 2007 - again with a female jockey (Nikita Beriman).

The odds of the 1st three horses were off-the-charts: 100/1, 90/1 and 80/1. Can you imagine winning the Trifecta with those odds?

Check out the owner's reaction at 1:02. Absolutely priceless.

Wasn't that great to watch? The commentator gave it no chance before the off :)
 
Wichita the other day in a paddock accident at Werribee, and now AVD - both Aidan O'Brien trained horses. The stable must be in shock. Truly heartbreaking.

Are Australian conditions too tough, or is the weight the horses carry (in the case of AVD) too much, or is it just one of those things?

Anyway, truly heartbreaking.
It has been argued that horses are put into tough training too early and before their bones have had a chance to mature and this is one reason why they have such fatal injuries :(
 
Heads up guys.


Free 5 euro bet on city v liverpool this week with PP.

They also have an offer bet 5euro on the 2.30Curragh and get 5 eur free on breeders cup
 
I'm quite excited for Hollie Doyle today and have backed her because I think that she has a decent each way chance. I would be made up if she got a placing.

Lucky 15 (x30) Each Way

14. Danny California
5/1
6th Nov KEENELAND 18:50 EVENT 1m 5f 0y - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 4 Place
1. Mighty Gurkha
20/1
6th Nov KEENELAND 19:30 EVENT 0m 5f 110y - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 4 Places
4. Plum Ali
5/1
6th Nov KEENELAND 21:30 EVENT 1m 0f 0y - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 4 Places
9. Sittin On Go
9/1
6th Nov KEENELAND 22:15 EVENT 1m 0f 110y - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 4 Places
Best odds

And in Ireland today

Lucky 15 (x30) Each Way

5. Final Endeavour
11/2
6th Nov CURRAGH 14:30 1M 2F HCAP 1m 2f - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 5 Places
3. Autumn Evening
11/2
6th Nov CURRAGH 15:05 1M 4F STAKES 1m 4f - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
6. Excuzio Joe
11/2
6th Nov CURRAGH 15:40 1M HCAP 1m - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 5 Places
10. Drumquina
6/1
6th Nov CURRAGH 16:10 6F HCAP 6f - Each Way

Good luck if your having a punt :)
 
My horse betting tip is to not bet horse but if you still want bet on horse then do it on a suomenhevonen to make big bank saatana! English jokkeys never master this art.
 
So I've done a few today. We remain in lockdown so I miss my saturday morning trip to the bookies it may only be for 5 mins to put on the bets but I always enjoyed the walk.

Anyway
I backed Magical in the Breeders Cup simply because I couldn't help myself. Its no forlorn hope retains plenty of ability and if Europe will win any race at this years breeders cup then this is it.

Elsewhere

11.50 Donc
Imperium Blue.
I like backing top weight in a nursery if they have solid form and that is the case here. I took 2/1.

2.05 Donc
Moonlight In Paris
Gosden has this one going the right way imo and 12/1 is too big.


Edit; 2 more at home in Naas.

1.25 Tide of Time at 4/1 this is an each way bet to nothing for me.
Lynam let the favourite Earls leave his stable for a small sum midweek which has me thinking he has the beating of it. Also will love the cut in the ground.

2.00 Cerberus
Again at 6/1 an ew to nothing imo. Up 6lb for a strong second lto. But a very talented 7lb claimer takes the ride.


GL All having a punt.
 
Outsider of the day for me is Glencadam Glory (3.15D), currently 66/1 (7 places Skybet, 6 places Unibet etc). Ella McCain is riding well at the moment, and has had recent 12/1 and 18/1 winners. The stable are in decent form too. If it can repeat it's Ebor second today I can't see it not being in the first 6 places. Obviously it's a fairly big 'if' but 66/1 is a mad price.

In the 3.35W Potterman has to have a good chance at 11/1, although in the same race I can't ignore Sean Bowen has his only ride of the day Just A Sting so maybe a small RFC with the two.
 
I've not been betting very much lately but I was so close to getting very lucky last night when my first two came in on a lucky 31 and the cash out was already quite good. Two of my horses where quite unlucky to come in second but I let it ride and ended up with a lovely touch.

Lucky 31 (x62) Each Way
W
1. Gumra
9/4
7th Nov CHELMSFORD CITY 18:30 7F HCAP 7f - Each Way
18:30 07 November 2020
Each Way: 1/4 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds
W
6. Casaruan
14/1 20/1
7th Nov CHELMSFORD CITY 19:00 7F HCAP 7f - Each Way
19:00 07 November 2020
Each Way: 1/4 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds
P
8. Kaths Lustre
6/1 13/2
7th Nov CHELMSFORD CITY 19:30 6F HCAP 6f - Each Way
19:30 07 November 2020
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 4 Places
Best odds
P
1. Whatwouldyouknow
10/1
7th Nov CHELMSFORD CITY 20:00 1M 2F HCAP 1m 2f - Each Way
20:00 07 November 2020
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 4 Places
Best odds
P
6. Bay Of Naples
8/1
7th Nov CHELMSFORD CITY 20:30 1M 2F HCAP 1m 2f - Each Way
20:30 07 November 2020
Each Way: 1/4 Odds, 3 Places

I'm so looking forward to the jumps season :)
 
Typical that my first 3 ran stinkers

Lucky 31 (x62) Each Way




L
1. Urban Violet
17/2
11th Nov KEMPTON 17:35 EVENT 1m 0f 0y - Each Way
17:35 11 November 2020

Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds

L
8. Loving Dream

10/1
11th Nov KEMPTON 18:05 EVENT 1m 0f 0y - Each Way
18:05 11 November 2020

Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds

L
2. Sparkling Olly

9/4
11th Nov KEMPTON 18:35 HANDICAP 1m 0f 0y - Each Way
18:35 11 November 2020

Each Way: 1/4 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds

W
8. Razor Glass
3/1
11th Nov KEMPTON 19:05 EVENT 0m 6f 0y - Each Way
19:05 11 November 2020

Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds

W
6. Papa Stour

40/1
11th Nov KEMPTON 19:35 HANDICAP 0m 7f 0y - Each Way
19:35 11 November 2020

Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 4 Places
Best odds
 
Typical that my first 3 ran stinkers

Lucky 31 (x62) Each Way




L
1. Urban Violet
17/2
11th Nov KEMPTON 17:35 EVENT 1m 0f 0y - Each Way
17:35 11 November 2020

Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds

L
8. Loving Dream

10/1
11th Nov KEMPTON 18:05 EVENT 1m 0f 0y - Each Way
18:05 11 November 2020

Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds

L
2. Sparkling Olly

9/4
11th Nov KEMPTON 18:35 HANDICAP 1m 0f 0y - Each Way
18:35 11 November 2020

Each Way: 1/4 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds

W
8. Razor Glass
3/1
11th Nov KEMPTON 19:05 EVENT 0m 6f 0y - Each Way
19:05 11 November 2020

Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds

W
6. Papa Stour

40/1
11th Nov KEMPTON 19:35 HANDICAP 0m 7f 0y - Each Way
19:35 11 November 2020

Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 4 Places
Best odds

Yikes. Even two of those placed would provide a serious touch. Nice picking none the less!
 
Yikes. Even two of those placed would provide a serious touch. Nice picking none the less!
I'm still happy about the return Ken but I can not help thinking what if those two winners had came in the first two races. The cash out alone would have been huge.
PS.
If I get my winnings from the MrGreen comp I intend to hold a comp in this thread like you did
 
I'm still happy about the return Ken but I can not help thinking what if those two winners had came in the first two races. The cash out alone would have been huge.
PS.
If I get my winnings from the MrGreen comp I intend to hold a comp in this thread like you did
Ya the 40/1 would have made a nice base for a cashout.

Cool about the comp!
 
PP with a free fiver bet on the 1:50 at Cheltenham today for anyone interested.


I've gone for Beat the Judge.

Solid 3rd over C&D and plenty to like in the profile including the ground.

Oh well there goes my bet since that was horse I backed with it. :laugh:
 
Oh well there goes my bet since that was horse I backed with it. :laugh:
I took Beat the Judge too with my free £5 but I did £2.50 EW for a cash out of £13.50.

I'm going to look at tomorrows card at Cheltenham and base a comp on that but here is my bet their for today

Lucky 15 (x30) Each Way

10. Castle Robin
10/1
13th Nov CHELTENHAM 13:15 HANDICAP HURDLE 2m 5f 0y - Each Way
Starting in 35 minutes
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 6 Places
Best odds

5. Beat The Judge
4/1
13th Nov CHELTENHAM 13:50 HANDICAP CHASE 1m 7f 199y - Each Way
13:50 Today
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds

8. Vino Royale
14/1
13th Nov CHELTENHAM 15:00 HANDICAP CHASE 3m 6f 37y - Each Way
15:00 Today
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds

5. Panic Attack
9/2
13th Nov CHELTENHAM 16:05 HANDICAP HURDLE 2m 0f 87y - Each Way
16:05 Today
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 5 Places
Best odds
 
I took Beat the Judge too with my free £5 but I did £2.50 EW for a cash out of £13.50.

I'm going to look at tomorrows card at Cheltenham and base a comp on that but here is my bet their for today

Lucky 15 (x30) Each Way

10. Castle Robin
10/1
13th Nov CHELTENHAM 13:15 HANDICAP HURDLE 2m 5f 0y - Each Way
Starting in 35 minutes
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 6 Places
Best odds

5. Beat The Judge
4/1
13th Nov CHELTENHAM 13:50 HANDICAP CHASE 1m 7f 199y - Each Way
13:50 Today
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds

8. Vino Royale
14/1
13th Nov CHELTENHAM 15:00 HANDICAP CHASE 3m 6f 37y - Each Way
15:00 Today
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds

5. Panic Attack
9/2
13th Nov CHELTENHAM 16:05 HANDICAP HURDLE 2m 0f 87y - Each Way
16:05 Today
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 5 Places
Best odds

Seems like everyone took beat the judge.

Good luck with your bet colin. :thumbsup:
 
Not even really looked at racing today as at work but will be home just after 2 so probably put a bet on then.

Only 2 bets so far were the free bet at PP and even tho I dont fancy it I put a tenner on TIger Roll to finish first or second at 2/1 on WH's flash odds. Think I would have been better keeping that tenner tho lol.
 
Not even really looked at racing today as at work but will be home just after 2 so probably put a bet on then.

Only 2 bets so far were the free bet at PP and even tho I dont fancy it I put a tenner on TIger Roll to finish first or second at 2/1 on WH's flash odds. Think I would have been better keeping that tenner tho lol.
I'm not due to be off work again now for a few weeks and most days I miss the daytime meetings and usually I don't bother betting unless I'm off
 
Lol I only work Monday to Friday so always get to see weekend racing not that I always bet on it.

But looks okay racing today what I saw of it so will see when I get in whether worth losing money or not.
Due to holding a comp I have put a bet on for tomorrow at Cheltenham even though I can't watch it.

For £25 pick a horse from each of these 4 races at Cheltenham tomorrow as if you where placing a lucky 15 EW. The winner will be judged on the hypothetical return based on their starting price.
1.05pm 2.15pm 2.50pm and the 3.25pm races.
This comp is open to anyone who has posted a racing related post in the past and can be deemed as an active CM member.
Good luck :)
 
Due to holding a comp I have put a bet on for tomorrow at Cheltenham even though I can't watch it.

For £25 pick a horse from each of these 4 races at Cheltenham tomorrow as if you where placing a lucky 15 EW. The winner will be judged on the hypothetical return based on their starting price.
1.05pm 2.15pm 2.50pm and the 3.25pm races.
This comp is open to anyone who has posted a racing related post in the past and can be deemed as an active CM member.
Good luck :)
That’s a fun comp, will have a study and get back to you
 
That’s a fun comp, will have a study and get back to you
I usually like to have the days newspaper in front of me when choosing my bets but obviously I couldn't for tomorrows bet. For the fun of it these are my selections for tomorrow
Lucky 15 (x30) Each Way

5. Ocean Cove
SP
14th Nov CHELTENHAM 13:05 HANDICAP CHASE 3m 1f 0y - Each Way
13:05 Tomorrow
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 4 Places

15. The Russian Doyen
14/1
14th Nov CHELTENHAM 14:15 HANDICAP CHASE 2m 4f 44y - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 6 Places

4. Dandy Dan
5/1
14th Nov CHELTENHAM 14:50 HANDICAP HURDLE 2m 7f 208y - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 4 Places

9. Shinobi
11/2
14th Nov CHELTENHAM 15:25 HANDICAP HURDLE 2m 5f 0y - Each Way
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds
 
Thanks for running a comp Colin . Always interesting to see what horses people pick.

Actually looked at these 4 for tomorrow. Not placed bet yet as will wait to morning see what money i can afford and get guaranteed prices.

But here is the lucky 15.


13:05 Cheltenham - 3m1f Hcap Chs
00005157.png

Storm Control
6/1

E/W
Potential returns
£0.00
E/W terms: 1/5 Odds. 1,2,3,4 Places
14:15 Cheltenham - 2m4f Hcap Chs
00829871.png

Simply The Betts
5/1

E/W
Potential returns
£0.00
E/W terms: 1/5 Odds. 1,2,3,4,5,6 Places
14:50 Cheltenham - 3m Listed Hcap Hrd
00079244.png

Dell Arca
8/1

E/W
Potential returns
£0.00
E/W terms: 1/5 Odds. 1,2,3,4 Places
15:25 Cheltenham - 2m5f Hcap Hrd
00039939.png

Kepagge
6/1
 
Thanks for running a comp Colin . Always interesting to see what horses people pick.

Actually looked at these 4 for tomorrow. Not placed bet yet as will wait to morning see what money i can afford and get guaranteed prices.

But here is the lucky 15.


13:05 Cheltenham - 3m1f Hcap Chs
00005157.png

Storm Control
6/1

E/W
Potential returns
£0.00
E/W terms: 1/5 Odds. 1,2,3,4 Places
14:15 Cheltenham - 2m4f Hcap Chs
00829871.png

Simply The Betts
5/1

E/W
Potential returns
£0.00
E/W terms: 1/5 Odds. 1,2,3,4,5,6 Places
14:50 Cheltenham - 3m Listed Hcap Hrd
00079244.png

Dell Arca
8/1

E/W
Potential returns
£0.00
E/W terms: 1/5 Odds. 1,2,3,4 Places
15:25 Cheltenham - 2m5f Hcap Hrd
00039939.png

Kepagge
6/1
Remember Paul that you do not need to place a bet. You only need to choose the horses :)
Good luck anyhoo
 
1.05: petite power
2.15: happy diva
2.50: tobefair
3.25: shinobi

Thanks mate, what a brilliant and fun comp.

Not had a drink of a afternoon in I don’t know how long, but tomoz I’ll make a exception and have a few watching this mate!.. brilliant idea and best of luck all!..
 
Thanks Col, will put mine up tomorrow.
Are you doing level stakes, so working each persons out as if they had 1.00 EW Lucky 15? And presumably standard places rather than enhanced :)
I will use Paddy Powers starting odds and number of placings for everyones bet so there is no discrepancies
 
I had no intention of backing anything in these races as I have a ton of golf bets done already for the weekend as well as one horse bet. Of course if I'm entering these selections,I in true degenerate style have had to back them in case they won :laugh:


Selections in screenshot below.

Good luck all.


Screenshot_20201114-082714_Chrome.webp
 
1.05 Lamanver Pippin
2.15 Simply The Betts
2.50 Tobefair
3.25 Nebuchadnezzar

Thanks Col :)

In the gold cup, I also think Aso and Brelan D'As have good EW chances at big prices :). The market drift on Simply The Betts is concerning, as I think he is easily the best horse in the race. Mister Fisher doesn't seem to want the ground too soft so would be against that one, especially if the forecast rain arrives.

In the 3.25 Whatsupwithyou seems, on paper, to be another with a good chance.

3.05L Palavecino think this will be first or second.
2.42U Carrolls Milan be very surprised if this doesn't win, 2nd last time out over 2m4f, the step up to 3 miles will undoubtedly help her.

Good luck today.
 
Would have been really cool if Whatsupwithyou would have done it like it looked for little while.....
I just got home in time to watch it and I thought he had it in the bag. Congrats to you anyhow as you where a clear winner. Using odds checker at £1 per bet stake you would have made a £133 profit with Paul,Col and Ben making a profit on their bets
Do you do bank transfer Slottery?
 
A couple of quick ones today

3.17A First Flow, everything seems perfect for him today, I had him down as a 3/1 chance, 9/2 is massive.
2.25H Highland Hunter 10/1 6 places. Be very surprised if this isn't in the first 6/ Long distance on soft/heavy is what he likes, Sean is one of the best jockeys around in races that need stamina which I think this will, Paul Nichols is in good form.
Going to do a decent EW double on these.

Theres a free £5 exchange bet for the 3.00H available on Betfair, should be a banner on the main exchange page.
 
I stuck a bet on in the hope of getting of work early but it was not to be.

Lucky 15 (x30) Each Way
W
8. Barnaviddaun
11/2
21st Nov NAAS 13:37 2M 4F HCAP HURDLE 2m 4f - Each Way
13:37 21 November 2020
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 5 Places
Best odds
W
9. Vanillier
15/8 10/3
21st Nov NAAS 14:12 2M 3F HURDLE 2m 3f - Each Way
14:12 21 November 2020
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds
P
1. Memory Tree
5/1 13/2
21st Nov NAAS 14:47 2M 4F HCAP CHASE 2m 4f - Each Way
14:47 21 November 2020
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 5 Places
Best odds

6. January Jets
10/1 12/1
21st Nov NAAS 15:22 2M 3F CHASE 2m 3f - Each Way
In-Play
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds

And

Lucky 31 (x62) Each Way
W
9. Marions Boy
9/2
21st Nov LINGFIELD 14:55 HANDICAP 1m 2f 0y - Each Way
14:55 21 November 2020
Each Way: 1/4 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds
L
4. Filou Des Issards
6/1
21st Nov HUNTINGDON 15:08 MAIDEN HURDLE 3m 1f 10y - Each Way
15:08 21 November 2020
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds
W
4. First Flow
7/2
21st Nov ASCOT 15:17 HANDICAP CHASE 2m 0f 167y - Each Way
15:17 21 November 2020
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds

2. Union Spirit
3/1
21st Nov LINGFIELD 15:30 HANDICAP 1m 2f 0y - Each Way
Starting in 2 minutes
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
Best odds

9. Kings Monarch
9/2
21st Nov HAYDOCK 15:35 HANDICAP CHASE 3m 4f 97y - Each Way
Starting in 7 minutes
Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 4 Places
Best odds
 

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