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Maybe, but it doesn't take much to move a 20/1 shot in the last race, on an all weather track, on a Monday night. People think it takes 1000's to move a price, but in a race like this, it could literally be £50 on it that starts the drop. If it was a proper gamble, I would expect more than 20% of the market share on Betfair at this point, considering most the trades will be bots reacting to the drop in price. Fairly sure this will drift before the off. If it goes back out to maybe 8/1 I'll probably have a fiver EW as will kick myself if I miss an EW price and it comes in lol.
 
Hahadi 1.50S, still some 7/2 available from Bet365
Capperty Can 1.05B around 5/2

In the 3.10 Bath the gamble on Willy Nilly is affecting the others' prices, pushing them out further than they should be. Accomplish is too big at 15/2, well worth a small EW bet.
 
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First forecast win in years! and these are correct order if only i'd done exact one not any :(
 
Well done Dave

Not sure where else to put these links, but I always find them interesting reading, an ex on course bookie, now working for starsports, gives an idea of the volume of trade, here are his royal ascot blogs if anyone fancies a read

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Well done Dave

Not sure where else to put these links, but I always find them interesting reading, an ex on course bookie, now working for starsports, gives an idea of the volume of trade, here are his royal ascot blogs if anyone fancies a read

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Brilliant reads, great to see it from the other side.
I remember reading Barney Curleys book years ago, some of the stunts he pulled were great and the bookies always ran scared of him when he was on the prowl for a bet.
I used to go to Downpatrick frequently years ago, and a guy called Mike Futter used to have that same effect on the bookies there, when he went on the prowl all the bookies were watching to see who he backed, all hoping he wouldnt come to them, and when he went up to place his bet the boards were all wiped clean when they saw who he was backing. He also had a load of runners to place the money around for him, but the bookies knew them all. Good days indeed.
 
2:10Y Lady Eleanor 9/4
2:40Y Aristocratic Lady 2/1
3:50C The Dancing Poet 2/1
2:30D Enjoy D'allen 11/10

Just a small yankee for me today, think the racing is pretty terrible so just a small bet to give me an interest in some of the races :)

(edit - wrote this post at 9am then forgot to post - the prices have changed on a couple since then)
 
2:10Y Lady Eleanor 9/4
2:40Y Aristocratic Lady 2/1
3:50C The Dancing Poet 2/1
2:30D Enjoy D'allen 11/10

Just a small yankee for me today, think the racing is pretty terrible so just a small bet to give me an interest in some of the races :)

(edit - wrote this post at 9am then forgot to post - the prices have changed on a couple since then)
I stuck my bets on too early once more and the result is two none runners from four already at Killarney this evening :(

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2.00H Air Raid

Won this race last year from 2lb lower
100% record over this C&D (3/3)
Softer the better for him.

Currently 11/2 with Billy Hills, worth a tickle EW, wins profit, places, money back :)
I have taken an outlandishly mad EW lucky 15 at Uttoxeter but I only have peanuts on it. Good luck with your bets :)

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3.10B Strawberry Jack bit of a speculative one this, especially after it's last run when it was slowly away, however on his form from last year, and over the winter on the AW he has a chance of being placed at least. 12/1 most places

1.20C Swissal, back to 6f today, been running over 7. Seems to prefer 6 from his previous runs. Currently 20/1, small EW bet and a small EW double on both.

Yesterday's was third at 11/2, returning another small profit.
 
3.10B Strawberry Jack bit of a speculative one this, especially after it's last run when it was slowly away, however on his form from last year, and over the winter on the AW he has a chance of being placed at least. 12/1 most places

1.20C Swissal, back to 6f today, been running over 7. Seems to prefer 6 from his previous runs. Currently 20/1, small EW bet and a small EW double on both.

Yesterday's was third at 11/2, returning another small profit.

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I've got off to a flier today with a 20-1 winner and I'm fairly confident with the EW chances of my other selections in the bet.

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I've got off to a flier today with a 20-1 winner and I'm fairly confident with the EW chances of my other selections in the bet.

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Fingers crossed for Union Spirit to at least get a place for you, but hoping it wins for you as that will be a great bet.
 
Excellent result Col, isn't it so annoying when the shortest priced one is the one that lets you down :(
was that roughly 30 times stake?
Agree that it’s always the shorter price that chins you, last weekend I had 3 up in a win lucky 15 and each day the shortest one was second or third .
Last night did an ew lucky 15 for a change and surprise surprise the shortest price finished 4th in an 8 horse race with the other 3 winning.
But WTG @geordiecolin lovely bet, nice lift and good to see people take money of the bookies.
 
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Excellent result Col, isn't it so annoying when the shortest priced one is the one that lets you down :(
was that roughly 30 times stake?

Agree that it’s always the shorter price that chins you, last weekend I had 3 up in a win lucky 15 and each day the shortest one was second or third .
Last night did an ew lucky 15 for a change and surprise surprise the shortest price finished 4th in an 8 horse race with the other 3 winning.
But WTH @geordiecolin lovely bet, nice lift and good to see people take money of the bookies.

It looks like it wasn't a bad afternoon for all us who put a bet on this afternoon :)

It was a 33/1 return but it could so easiy have been more than 15x that. I was a bit miffed that two of the four in the other bet didn't run :( I took a nice cash out while leaving a small war chest for tomorrow.
Cheers for the comments. I have stuck these on for this evening :)

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Wow I didn't expect my first at Kilbeggan to drift out to 12/1 :)

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4.30N Image Of The Moon, 14/1 with B365, 11/1 elsewhere. I was waiting to see if there were any odds movements before posting this one. Came second last year over C&D, although it was GS going rather than the good forecast for today. The stable are in form, and has an EW chance, especially if the price keeps contracting. The stable know what they are doing and if their horses are getting backed, its usually a sign they expect it to run well.

2.30Y John Smiths Cup - love races like this. Massive, high quality, handicaps where most the field have a chance. I usually do 4 horses and combine them in reverse exactas and trifectas. Reason for doing the tote versions is that, if the favourite isn't involved, then the returns tend to be higher than the computer generated ones, much higher when it comes to the tricast. Doesn't work every time, but generally it does.
I rarely get these winning, maybe once a season, or less, but as the returns are so high, thats enough to clear a good profit. I tend to do 24 x 50p tricasts and 12 x 50p forecasts, so total £18. I do roughly 25-30 a year (less this year obviously), last return was £4200 around a year ago, and previous to that was £3300 about 15 months previously. Massively in profit from them over the years, but obviously they don't come in often.

Sinjaari - well drawn and easily up to being placed in this if he can regain his form from last year. Prices don't really matter for this type of bet, but currently 14/1 everywhere.

Sky Defender - Won at Epsom 2 weeks ago, in a same grade race as this, over the same distance, same jockey, and same sort of price (33/1). Jockey and trainer both in decent form. Only negative is the high draw, which is off putting, but don't think its such the handicap here that it was say 5 years ago. 22/1

Desert Icon - Drawn well, very impressive last time, Tom Marquand riding, should be thereabouts. 14/1

Harrovian - the last of the 4 came down to this one, Solid Stone and Good Birthday. Harrovian got the vote simply because it's Dettori's only ride of the day, and can't see why he would go for one ride if he wasn't expecting the horse to run well. Currently around 8/1.

If they come in, think the lowest price tricast will be around 900/1, highest would be roughly 4000/1. The trifecta would probably pay anywhere between 50 and 100% higher, depending on what come in and the order they finish.

Good luck today with your bets :)
 
4.30N Image Of The Moon, 14/1 with B365, 11/1 elsewhere. I was waiting to see if there were any odds movements before posting this one. Came second last year over C&D, although it was GS going rather than the good forecast for today. The stable are in form, and has an EW chance, especially if the price keeps contracting. The stable know what they are doing and if their horses are getting backed, its usually a sign they expect it to run well.

2.30Y John Smiths Cup - love races like this. Massive, high quality, handicaps where most the field have a chance. I usually do 4 horses and combine them in reverse exactas and trifectas. Reason for doing the tote versions is that, if the favourite isn't involved, then the returns tend to be higher than the computer generated ones, much higher when it comes to the tricast. Doesn't work every time, but generally it does.
I rarely get these winning, maybe once a season, or less, but as the returns are so high, thats enough to clear a good profit. I tend to do 24 x 50p tricasts and 12 x 50p forecasts, so total £18. I do roughly 25-30 a year (less this year obviously), last return was £4200 around a year ago, and previous to that was £3300 about 15 months previously. Massively in profit from them over the years, but obviously they don't come in often.

Sinjaari - well drawn and easily up to being placed in this if he can regain his form from last year. Prices don't really matter for this type of bet, but currently 14/1 everywhere.

Sky Defender - Won at Epsom 2 weeks ago, in a same grade race as this, over the same distance, same jockey, and same sort of price (33/1). Jockey and trainer both in decent form. Only negative is the high draw, which is off putting, but don't think its such the handicap here that it was say 5 years ago. 22/1

Desert Icon - Drawn well, very impressive last time, Tom Marquand riding, should be thereabouts. 14/1

Harrovian - the last of the 4 came down to this one, Solid Stone and Good Birthday. Harrovian got the vote simply because it's Dettori's only ride of the day, and can't see why he would go for one ride if he wasn't expecting the horse to run well. Currently around 8/1.

If they come in, think the lowest price tricast will be around 900/1, highest would be roughly 4000/1. The trifecta would probably pay anywhere between 50 and 100% higher, depending on what come in and the order they finish.

Good luck today with your bets :)
It sounds like you really do your homework. Good luck today Col :)
 
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Just to show why I use the Tote on this type of bet

Ex: £1,052.50 vs CSF: £645.92
Tricast: £4,768.64 vs Trifecta: £7,404

Massive difference, even at low stakes, the forecast at a 50p stake would have paid £200 more doing the exacta rather than the forecast, and the trifecta around £1300 more than the tricast!
 
I put Shine So Bright up last week but it was a non runner, just noticed it's running in the 4.00, which is probably a better fit for it, and is reflected in the odds of 15/2, rather than 40/1 last week. Same comments apply and doing a small EW double along with Image of The Moon in the 4.30 (currently 12/1), both prices with PaddyPower

Thanks for the Tip.

If i had not seen your post i would not have looked at race and would have forgot to back Tabdeed like i was planning. So got my winning bet on.

But after backing it did the small each way double on your two so hopefully other one comes placed as well.
 

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