Holly Cow!!! I can't believe it!

[slotchik]

yep hes been paid, the latest i heard was that he was playing the slots in his local casino while sticking $100 bills down some girl's top, who apparently only went in to pick up a stupid deep fry.

Ummm, not down my top unless he wanted to pull down the sweatshirt I was wearing.....

 

[scrollock]

Ummm, not down my top unless he wanted to pull down the sweatshirt I was wearing.....

so he wansn't sticking them down your top, i dont want to know where he was putting them, but i think i can guess!

 

[2brnot2b]

Hi guys,

A quick update, I got paid last night. $25K and another $10K/month thereafter. The money will stretch out longer that way anyway.

All I had to send was my notarized ID of my copy since I cashed out through NETeller.

Will for sure update again next month when I get paid again.

BTW, I'm 100% woman...




I think... he he he

 

[2brnot2b]

Oh and the tax thing, I figured out that I'll be reporting this as an income. It's easier that way anyway. They shouldn't care where the money comes from as long as I pay them, right?

 

[slotchik]

Wow, they said you wouldnt have to be paid in installments for a progressive. Why now do you have to receive it that way????

 

[largeeyes]

Ugh...so you have to wait 1/2 year to get your money...

 

[nafanny29]

2bornot2b I wouldnt play a single $ at the casino until they have paid you in full. It will then be their loss that they didnt pay you everything at once.

On progressives they have already gathered the funds to pay off the jackpot havnt they

 

[GrandMaster]

Ummm, not down my top unless he wanted to pull down the sweatshirt I was wearing.....

I think you are starting to regret that other thread you started.

 

[scrollock]

tell me if i am wrong on this, but dont the funds come from a central pool of all the casinos that use RTG, so its not monaco gold paying this prize ?

if thats the case then why the hell should they hold onto money that hasn't even ever belonged to them ?

its a bad enough that some of these places have these payout restrictions, but at least when its their own money its understandable (although i dont agree with it) as there is a case a large payout could cause some financial troubles if it was to be paid all at once, but this money isnt coming from their own funds.

i think you should demand your payment in full, a few things you be aware of are

1) what happens if this casino goes belly up ?

2) this is a playtech casino, they have a long history of payout problems, do you really fancy having to put up with chasing your money every month, being constantly given fictitious reasons as to why your payout is delayed yet again for another week

3) joyland a sister casino has recently been rogued for refusing some large cashouts, which were actually smaller than yours

4) this casino is in the process of being sold, what happens if they run off with your money after the sale, beleive me this is something i wouldnt put past this group (have a good read through the joyland thread to familarise yourself with the tricks & theft this group employs)

it even says in their own T+C's that they payout progressives in full.

was it just me or did anyone else have a feeling that this payout wouldnt be as straight forward as it should be?

what is it with this group, they employ payout trickery all the time, yet this time they should realise not only is it in the public eye, but their usual tricks of hoping someone would "forget" or give up on payout is not going to happen.
yet they cant help themselves, obviously if they are not pi$$ing somebody about on a payout they are clearly not happy.

i'm sorry to give you bad news, but its becoming perfectly obvious that you are never going to see your full cashout, sadly this is something we all knew in our hearts since your opening post.

 

[slotchik]

wow, you typed exactly what I was thinking.
They get this progressive money RIGHT away and should pay the player RIGHT away!!!
This is bull~~!~

 

[thelawnet]

Hi guys,

A quick update, I got paid last night. $25K and another $10K/month thereafter. The money will stretch out longer that way anyway.

Wow. That's evil. Playtech pays out the cash, the casino puts it in the bank, earn the interest and pay over six months....

Not sure how this is different from

https://www.casinomeister.com/rogue-casinos/

The Question

Is this casino strapped for cash? Well, who knows but the casino staff. What is clear is that this casino will only pay you in chunks if you hit it big. The old paratrooper phrase comes to mind "Stay alert - stay alive!". This is something that all players should be alerted to.

Stated in their terms and conditions:
The total withdrawal amount cannot exceed $8,000 per month. ($2,000.00 per week.) For High Rollers the limit is $12,000.00 per month. ($3,000.00 per week.)
This is a problematic clause, and any casino with a clause like this should be avoided

 

[paul02085]

Ridiculous. Playtech is the pits.

 

[Daffy]

2bornot2b is not a novice...she is quite an "old" pro at online gambling.

Very active within the community with mucho friends and good contacts.

I was concerned also...for her sake...but...

She and Monaco have worked out a deal that both parties are VERY happy with...so ya'll don't worry yet.

I might have done it different...you might have done it different...but it wasn't our deal.

the dUck

 

[Bruce Hamilton]

She and Monaco have worked out a deal that both parties are VERY happy with...

This was a progressive jackpots, the money is available up front from Playtech... The winner shouldn't have to work out a deal with the casino to be paid.

 

[thelawnet]

2bornot2b is not a novice...she is quite an "old" pro at online gambling.

Very active within the community with mucho friends and good contacts.

I was concerned also...for her sake...but...

She and Monaco have worked out a deal that both parties are VERY happy with...so ya'll don't worry yet.

I might have done it different...you might have done it different...but it wasn't our deal.

the dUck

I'm sure if I'd won a lot of money, I would be grateful for how ever they wanted to pay it too, because I wouldn't believe it was true!

That said there is no deal that needs to be worked out. I have never heard such bullshit in my life. There should never be any talk of 'deals' when it comes to paying - I do not signup to a casino, say 'I'm going to deposit $10,000, but I'll cut you a deal - I'll deposit it over 10 months'. No deals, ever. Just player pays, player wins, casino pays out RIGHT AWAY. No negotiations, just pay.

It's very simple 'you've won a lot of money, would you mind if you pose for a publicity photo with this over-sized novelty check?'. Either way, the money goes straight to the player - no negotiating needs to be done.

I do not believe that the casino said 'would you like us to give you all the money now', and the player replied saying 'no, please keep it for six months'.

Not to mention that this is a crappy term, the casino is actually breaking its own rules:

You are aware of and agree that the maximum amount that a Player can cash-out is $10,000 USD (or the equivalent amount in EURO or GBP currency) per month. This provision will not apply on the progressive Jackpot winnings.

They are blatantly applying this $10,000 rule, even though they have received all the money from Playtech already, and by their own rules should pay out everything in one lump sum.

So number one, they have the same term that resulted in Cirrus being made 'not recommended'. It would therefore be grossly unfair to Cirrus not to put them in the same category.

And number two, they are nickel and diming the player, breaking their own rules, since the win in question was a progressive and should be paid out all in one lump sum, which only compounds the insult.

 

[Daffy]

bruce and lawn

LOL...

I hope both of you win a huge progressive very soon...

Then you can show us all how to demand full payment...

And if the casino says "no"...then what???

PAB or go directly to Playtech...lmao. After a 2 month delay...they'll both advise you to take the payment plan.

I think you'll both "play ball" just like any sane person would...$25,000 in hand is a lot of dough. And $10K a month is pretty good too.

the dUck

 

[Simmo!]

If she gets paid and she's happy then no great problem. But it's not a good reflection on the casino, Playtech, or indeed their other licencees in my eyes I bet you wouldn't get this happening at an MG or a Crypto.

 

[scrollock]

LOL...

I hope both of you win a huge progressive very soon...

Then you can show us all how to demand full payment...

And if the casino says "no"...then what???

PAB or go directly to Playtech...lmao. After a 2 month delay...they'll both advise you to take the payment plan.

I think you'll both "play ball" just like any sane person would...$25,000 in hand is a lot of dough. And $10K a month is pretty good too.

the dUck

it almost sounds like that your saying that it's the casino right to do this and any player who ever requests being paid in full, in accordance with the casinos own T+C's should be locked up in an institution. and if i'm reading your post right, then the OP should be grateful for the deal she has been given.

your forgetting one thing, this isn't monaco golds money they are paying out, its playtechs which they have been given to pass onto the player.

maybe after you have finished reading my post, you can go on the joyland thread and tell us how much in the right crown solutions are in that situation aswell.

or even better, start a new thread and argue that the pope isn't really catholic

 

[Bruce Hamilton]

I think you'll both "play ball" just like any sane person would...$25,000 in hand is a lot of dough. And $10K a month is pretty good too.

You're missin' the point, Daffy... The casino's T&C page specifically states that the $10,000 per month maximum withdrawal does NOT APPLY to progressive jackpots. I'd be very happy with $25K now and 10K per month, if that was what the terms were. The casino expects us to abide by them while we're playing, why should we have to "play ball" when we win?

 

[Daffy]

I'm not missing the point...the point is to get paid...as soon as possible...with as few hassles as one can manage.

I've read the Joyland thread...I don't see anyone forcing Joyland to do anything. As a matter of fact...I've read a lot of stories over the years where the casino was wrong(IMHO) and skated...welcome to on-line gaming.

And yes...if I hit a $75K progressive on a $50 deposit...I would be very agreeable. $25K right now and $10k/month would be just ducky with me...lol.

What's the alternative??? Drag it out??? Create a 20 page thread blasting everyone and their mamas??? Sending countless emails into the void???

No thanks...I'd rather get paid. And evidently...so would 2bornot2b.

(Btw...she's already received the $25k.)

the dUck

 

[dominique]

If she gets paid and she's happy then no great problem. But it's not a good reflection on the casino, Playtech, or indeed their other licencees in my eyes I bet you wouldn't get this happening at an MG or a Crypto.

Ditto.

 

[thelawnet]

I'm not missing the point...the point is to get paid...as soon as possible...with as few hassles as one can manage.

I've read the Joyland thread...I don't see anyone forcing Joyland to do anything. As a matter of fact...I've read a lot of stories over the years where the casino was wrong(IMHO) and skated...welcome to on-line gaming.

And yes...if I hit a $75K progressive on a $50 deposit...I would be very agreeable. $25K right now and $10k/month would be just ducky with me...lol.

What's the alternative??? Drag it out??? Create a 20 page thread blasting everyone and their mamas??? Sending countless emails into the void???

No thanks...I'd rather get paid. And evidently...so would 2bornot2b.

(Btw...she's already received the $25k.)

the dUck

I agree. I would not be able to believe my luck and would not want to kick up a fuss....

I think you are missing the point though - nobody would start a 20 page thread complaining in this situation, but for the observer it's clear that this casino sucks. The player isn't being criticized or told to jump on monaco gold, the casino is being criticised, and rightly. This should be good PR for them - player hits progressive, and instead it makes them look cheap.

 

[Daffy]

Gosh, I miss a lot of points...lol.

We got off on a hypothetical for a while about what we would do/expect...let's go back to the real deal.

2brnot2b has won a $75k progressive at Monaco Gold. She has received $25k and will get 5 payments of $10k/month. She is very happy.

As soon as you guys heard payment...you assumed it was force-fed "take-it" or "leave-it"...hence...bad casino.

Not necessarily so...an agreement was reached. If she were unhappy with the agreement...we'd all know about it by now. Did she seem unhappy to you???

I have also heard this is a Monaco owned progressive and not a "shared" Playtech...but I don't know that for sure.

Bottom line...my friend has won...she's very happy...I'm happy she's been paid $25k...and hopefully she gets the rest.

the dUck

EDIT~for scrollock...the pope may very well not be catholic...seems like the church don't know either, since they always promote the oldest guy they can find (just in case)

 

[slotchik]

I'm glad the player is happy but this is BULL CRAP!!!!!

This DOESN'T HAPPEN with a land based....

and what would the casino think if I said...hey, give me 10K and I'll pay you back next month??

Pay the entire progressive...that's why it's called that...
It's paid INTO and when hit, it's PAID OUT.

PERIOD!!!!

This is VERY bad on the casino's part....and if I were the player, I'd DEMAND full payment..IMMEDIATELY!!!

 

[aodat2]

Ducky,

What we are all trying to say is that Progressive Jackpot should be pain in full straight away and not dragged. Its like saying... hey, since you've hit a progressive of $100K, Let me put it all in my bank account and earn interest or use it to invest and etc 1st and slowly paying you back in stages.

We feel that the money should be directly paid since it's not even their money. They have no right to keep the money for themselves.

I understand the point that 2bornot2b is actually happy with the terms that he/she is given, but it still remains the fact that she should not even be given the choice. She should have been directly told "you'll be paid 100% immediately".

That's exactly what we mean. We are not saying anything else other than the casino was a bit shady doing this. It's not a matter of choice. It's a matter of principle, the money is not theirs to keep, so just GIVE IT to the person who should get it.