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When I first started out at CWG I did the same thing as far as I opened At CW -- lost I saw there were other casinos in same group -- I think within the first 30 days I joined all of them then I stayed with LR and CW as my main ones. I liked them the best but I still have others I would play at just to switch around atmosphere.

There accredited group with 9 casinos now I see nothing wrong with opening accts at each one to see which one appeals to you the most.
 
I let you decide what you think, He might be the nicest guy on the planet, But when you open a post I like to read facts, Not what you thought was a fact,
1st he stated he put hes real home number in, Which we all no that this is not true as he thought he did as he would of done if it was there, Than he brother stated hes only just ventured out trying other software but he has already opened wto other accounts at the same group, It would be nice to no when opened? But does not matter to me,

I'm not sure why you're carrying this on with insinuations that there's more to the story than what was told.

He put (613) 1234567 as a cell phone and his real home phone on the fax back. That's been said ad nauseam.

And I don't know where this story came from about him having two Club World accounts already.

When I said he's only recently started playing other casinos I didn't mean yesterday. He'd been playing exclusively 3Dice for years and maybe in the last year he's tried Playtech and then Microgaming. I think I remember him taking a free chip from the old Bet Phoenix casino a few years ago but I can't be sure without asking him. If he did, it obviously didn't impress him much because he never went back to deposit even though he deposits regularly at other casinos.

He's a regular depositor and most of the bonuses he takes are deposit bonuses at 3Dice because they have very reasonable wage requirements. He's not running around looking for bonuses. He saw a banner on a website that he frequents almost daily and clicked it. It's as simple as that.

The story told is the story. You can take from it what you like and even disagree with the general consensus if that's your opinion but you can't start adding to it or changing it.

Not unless you want to just make up a story and we can all move to that thread and start a new debate.
 
Skiny, could be referring back to page 19 of this thread.

Yes, I know exactly what statements and accusations he's referring to.

It would appear that a number of lies and half-truths have been used here to persuade the readership to side with the OP & Co

You guys know what you are doing and for whatever reason you bunged this one up.

And I know exactly why they were typed too but too many people know me well enough not to be terribly concerned about it.

I can be accused of a lot of things but dishonesty isn't one of them.
 
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It would appear that a number of lies and half-truths have been used here to persuade the readership to side with the OP & Co

You guys know what you are doing and for whatever reason you bunged this one up.

Funny how you easily go to personal attacks once the casino is made to look foolish by the majority of this thread.
Nice defense mechanism.
The only lies and half truths here came from you. I don't know what you mean by that last statement.
You couldn't possibly be accusing us (or me) of purposely trying to cheat the casino in some way could you?

"bunged THIS ONE up"??? So not only are you accusing us,or me, of something underhanded but you claim by that statement
that it is frequent?
What a tool. My only question is how that after all these years people come back here when this is the mindless drivel spewed in here.
 
Shaky wish it had turned out different for you. Honestly, been there done that -- with a lot more money lost than 300 bucks!

What else can you do but move on, find the thing that works for you.

Best of luck to you.

One last (maybe hard to believe) thing. maxd is a straight shooter. If he posts info he will have complete proof to back it up. What I am saying is if there were CWC accounts opened with your IP AND YOU KNOW YOU DID NOT OPEN THEM, you might want to consider all possibilities at your address.

Skiny knows us and might even like us.

Happy trails.:thumbsup:
 
...Funny how you easily go to personal attacks once the casino is made to look foolish by the majority of this thread.
Nice defense mechanism.
The only lies and half truths here came from you. I don't know what you mean by that last statement.
You couldn't possibly be accusing us (or me) of purposely trying to cheat the casino in some way could you?

"bunged THIS ONE up"??? So not only are you accusing us,or me, of something underhanded but you claim by that statement
that it is frequent?
What a tool. My only question is how that after all these years people come back here when this is the mindless drivel spewed in here.

I think what Max was getting at is "don't throw stones when you live in a glass house." You and Skiny have a history with the Club World casinos, and you reap what you sow - if you know what you mean. That's what happened here. I think I was totally clear on why the casino chose not to pay you.

The ad hominem argument technique is being applied by you - not Max. Calling him a tool and dissing the administration, the forum, and all of its members won't win you friends here - but it will win you a 30 vacation. See you next month.
 
Shaky wish it had turned out different for you. Honestly, been there done that -- with a lot more money lost than 300 bucks!

What else can you do but move on, find the thing that works for you.

Best of luck to you.

One last (maybe hard to believe) thing. maxd is a straight shooter. If he posts info he will have complete proof to back it up. What I am saying is if there were CWC accounts opened with your IP AND YOU KNOW YOU DID NOT OPEN THEM, you might want to consider all possibilities at your address.

Skiny knows us and might even like us.

Happy trails.:thumbsup:

So you're saying Max has complete proof that I was involved in some kind of conspiracy to cheat Club World?

I know what I don't know and like. I don't know where Max gets some of his information and I don't like unfounded accusations.

Both of those statements were out of line.

I think what Max was getting at is "don't throw stones when you live in a glass house." You and Skiny have a history with the Club World casinos, and you reap what you sow - if you know what you mean. That's what happened here. I think I was totally clear on why the casino chose not to pay you.

The ad hominem argument technique is being applied by you - not Max. Calling him a tool and dissing the administration, the forum, and all of its members won't win you friends here - but it will win you a 30 vacation. See you next month.

Whether or not shaky got paid his winnings had nothing to do with me. The only history I have with Club World in the last 5 years is holding them accountable for not paying people who I think they should. I have no idea how you think Shaky reaped what he sowed but if you're even remotely suggesting that they didn't pay Shaky because they don't like me, that would be far worse than just using a cell phone number as an excuse.

I don't live in a glass house but if your moderators are going to start making false accusations about people who complain about the casinos you promote I would have to say you're starting to build one.

I spoke to Shaky this morning. He didn't seem terribly concerned about being banned from a forum that just called him a liar and a cheat.
 
... I don't know where Max gets some of his information and I don't like unfounded accusations.

[strike]Patience grasshopper. I've been slightly waylaid by some computer troubles. I'll get to founding those accusations shortly, not to worry.[/strike] Plans have changed, see here.
 
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My post was directed at shaky, not skiny.

So you're saying Max has complete proof that I was involved in some kind of conspiracy to cheat Club World?

I know what I don't know and like. I don't know where Max gets some of his information and I don't like unfounded accusations.

Both of those statements were out of line.



Whether or not shaky got paid his winnings had nothing to do with me. The only history I have with Club World in the last 5 years is holding them accountable for not paying people who I think they should. I have no idea how you think Shaky reaped what he sowed but if you're even remotely suggesting that they didn't pay Shaky because they don't like me, that would be far worse than just using a cell phone number as an excuse.

I don't live in a glass house but if your moderators are going to start making false accusations about people who complain about the casinos you promote I would have to say you're starting to build one.

I spoke to Shaky this morning. He didn't seem terribly concerned about being banned from a forum that just called him a liar and a cheat.
 
The only history I have with Club World in the last 5 years is holding them accountable for not paying people who I think they should. .

I don't live in a glass house but if your moderators are going to start making false accusations about people who complain about the casinos you promote I would have to say you're starting to build one.

I spoke to Shaky this morning. He didn't seem terribly concerned about being banned from a forum that just called him a liar and a cheat.

You hold them accountable for not paying people?:what: So when you people not getting paid at the forums you come to the rescue?

Something has obviously happened in the past for you to waste so much time on trying to bash Clubworld. Heres my theory:

You had an issue with Clubworld some time ago. Maybe a no pay to you directly? Whatever it was you went off the deep end and put all your time and energy into making their life miserable. Once you get to this point you completely make up your mind that what you say is right (even if worng)and believe in it 100% . You will then not even begin to listen to any advice or comments that go against your thoughts. This is what helps to create this extreme hostility.

I would have to assume that the "clubworld history" may have something to do with some type of hostile act against a rep or customer service. I dont know you or Shaky, I am sure your good people, but I do know I have seen this hostility here and at 3 dice. I recall a ban over at 3 dice and im sure that wasnt pretty. I maybe recall a thread here about that, but I see in the 3dice forum you had basically hijacked the forum with pages and pages of posts because you couldnt chat. These were all one way conversations with yourself and it really looks like your goal was to be a nuisance.

It looks really stresssful when you get in these situations. Maybe it would help if you TRY to see both sides and not be on the attack all the time.

Shakys last comment was basically CM sucks. Of course hes not concerned. I am sure he wont be back even at the end of 30.
 
Tell you what I wish CWC could have just labelled the form field "Phone Number" instead of "Cell" and it would have saved me about an hour of my life reading all this!

I find it quite incredible that they are being so picky over it when the lad has verified himself by other means. As others have mentioned I sometimes don't put a correct number on forms so I don't get spammed, never been a problem with any casino.

The ultimate overview for me is as far as CWC are concerned they have lost out on far more than $300 by their actions here, I for one would never play there now.
 
Patience grasshopper. I've been slightly waylaid by some computer troubles. I'll get to founding those accusations shortly, not to worry.

Good luck with that. I opened one Club World group casino that I can remember in years because it was a new casino and I didn't know it was part of the Club World group. I found out in a chat conversation right after opening it and closed it again out of principle. If Club World acquired casinos that I already had dormant accounts at, I have no idea. I don't really pay that much attention to what casinos are joining what group if I don't play at them anyway.

What I do know is that if someone tells you a bunch of silly crap I'll only set the record straight and won't be too concerned about the hand full of people who don't believe me.

You hold them accountable for not paying people?:what: So when you people not getting paid at the forums you come to the rescue?

Something has obviously happened in the past for you to waste so much time on trying to bash Clubworld. Heres my theory:

You had an issue with Clubworld some time ago. Maybe a no pay to you directly? Whatever it was you went off the deep end and put all your time and energy into making their life miserable. Once you get to this point you completely make up your mind that what you say is right (even if worng)and believe in it 100% . You will then not even begin to listen to any advice or comments that go against your thoughts. This is what helps to create this extreme hostility.

I would have to assume that the "clubworld history" may have something to do with some type of hostile act against a rep or customer service. I dont know you or Shaky, I am sure your good people, but I do know I have seen this hostility here and at 3 dice. I recall a ban over at 3 dice and im sure that wasnt pretty. I maybe recall a thread here about that, but I see in the 3dice forum you had basically hijacked the forum with pages and pages of posts because you couldnt chat. These were all one way conversations with yourself and it really looks like your goal was to be a nuisance.

It looks really stresssful when you get in these situations. Maybe it would help if you TRY to see both sides and not be on the attack all the time.

Shakys last comment was basically CM sucks. Of course hes not concerned. I am sure he wont be back even at the end of 30.

If any of what you said was true I wouldn't have defended Club World casinos where I thought the player was in the wrong. That's why this theory that keeps getting repeated doesn't hold water. Every post I've ever made in any thread in this forum was made fairly and honestly according the information given. If a casino isn't treating a player fairly I will side with the player. If a player is trying to cheat the casino, I will side with the casino.

I don't decide what's right or wrong according to how I feel about the participants.

And you can drag 3Dice into this if you like or any other casino for that matter but it doesn't change anything. This is an issue regarding Club World casinos treating players unfairly and not being held accountable.

And nobody ever said I came to anyone's rescue. Everyone who questions any casino's decisions is holding them accountable. This is every player's right.

Tell you what I wish CWC could have just labelled the form field "Phone Number" instead of "Cell" and it would have saved me about an hour of my life reading all this!

I find it quite incredible that they are being so picky over it when the lad has verified himself by other means. As others have mentioned I sometimes don't put a correct number on forms so I don't get spammed, never been a problem with any casino.

The ultimate overview for me is as far as CWC are concerned they have lost out on far more than $300 by their actions here, I for one would never play there now.

Well, I can certainly admire their resolve. Refusing to pay someone on a technicality regardless of how much it cost them in the long run. It still doesn't make it fair though.
 
With anything in life if you just stick to the set rules with no leeway something will bite you at some point, this is probably the clearest case I can think of where a massive dose of common sense would have saved everyone an awful lot of time.
 
Tell you what I wish CWC could have just labelled the form field "Phone Number" instead of "Cell" and it would have saved me about an hour of my life reading all this!

I find it quite incredible that they are being so picky over it when the lad has verified himself by other means. As others have mentioned I sometimes don't put a correct number on forms so I don't get spammed, never been a problem with any casino.

The ultimate overview for me is as far as CWC are concerned they have lost out on far more than $300 by their actions here, I for one would never play there now.

Quite, but they did it for a reason, marketing. Beneath that field, it asks the player to opt in to "SMS Marketing", which for many is a euphemism for "spam". Putting the label as "cell" was intended to steer players towards giving their cell number, as opposed to just "a contact number".

Had they used the label "phone number", many players who might otherwise have given their cell number may instead have given an alternative, with absolutely no chance of any "SMS marketing".

Even the term "SMS marketing" is vague, as it doesn't specify the scope. Many players may think it just means that they will receive bonus offers via SMS, but in fact it could cover any kind of marketing. It could even allow third parties to market to that cell, depending on the privacy terms, which you agree to simply by registering. Players may tick the box thinking it just means they will get notifications of any promotions, but there is nothing guaranteeing this limitation.

To say "the player should have contacted CS" is a cop out. The form should be self explanatory, and cover all the possible circumstances of valid players, such that contacting CS is not necessary in order to reach the end.

It also goes against the key argument casinos use in claiming that pre verification just doesn't work. They say that players need to be able to sail through registration and make their first deposit "in the moment", and any obstacle put in their way, such as having to contact CS or send in documents, means the "moment is lost" and the player may abort the process and try elsewhere.

This is a download casino client, for a PC, or a browser casino, again for a PC. It is not necessary for players to own a cell in order to play. In fact, they don't even need a phone, just an internet connection with a means of communication, such as email, secure message (in the casino lobby), or even Skype. We are already seeing some people ONLY having a decent internet connection, and then deciding they don't need to waste their money duplicating services. Even call centres are doing away with traditional phones and relying on Skype based services.
 
So CWC has been around for a long time.

I have read a bajillion threads on them here over the last several days. It seems like this type of issue crops up often enough with them to make you wonder should they REALLY be accredited?

It seems like a bunch of times they are ultra strict about their terms. They didn't pay someone who wasn't in school but said he was or some confusing thing that had nothing to do with casino play or his identity. They also do break other of their own terms like its nothing but expect others to follow as I said. Like not honoring bonuses in the link below.

Also, many people seemed to get angry then get banned from the forum when discussing CWC. They definitely have some kind of foothold here.

Basic story line on many of these threads goes like this -- player gets angry at CWC for cheating them somehow. Everyone tells them to pab. Max looks at it and comes back siding with the casino. Players and forum members get angry. Bryan comes on and says chill, it is their right and their decision but they are the good guys. Max gets snarky and has veiled, smoky allegation against player(s). This angers the players then Bryan tells the player to chill. Then perhaps insinuates that the player is fraudulent. Players get more angry and get banned. Thread goes away. CWC. still accredited. No money paid.

This particular thread had the most examples of all of this:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/greasemonkey-vs-club-worlds-alladins-gold.38840/
 
How dare anyone imply that a site making huge $$$ as an affiliate of and/or seller of ad space to a casino would in ANY WAY AT ALL be in a conflict of interest when arbitrating a dispute between an individual who provides zero direct revenue to that site versus the sugar daddy...err, casino?

Also excited to check out the new slot machine in Atlantic City branded with members of the New Jersey Gaming Commission!
 
How dare anyone imply that a site making huge $$$ as an affiliate of and/or seller of ad space to a casino would in ANY WAY AT ALL be in a conflict of interest when arbitrating a dispute between an individual who provides zero direct revenue to that site versus the sugar daddy...err, casino?

Seems you've got rather a habit of such belly-aching, don't you?

23rd May 2014 : Bottom line and I realize I will probably be banned from this site for saying this out loud but InetBet continuing to be given an "accredited" designation by this site really speaks to some serious flaws in said accreditation process (and review/maintenance of such accreditation).

11th July 2014 : A truly consumer-friendly online casino accreditation would never allow ... Not holding my breath for this one being decided on the side of the player.

Needless to say, any site you find so offensive and beneath contempt should not be a place you'd be prone to hang around. And yet here you are, again with the kvetching. Wonder why that might be?
 
I have read a bajillion threads on them here over the last several days. ....

If anyone cares to check the record you'll see the "bigsmile" has been moaning about Highnoon and CWC pretty much since sign-on date one year ago. Whatever the substance of your complaints you'd be a little more credible if you didn't misrepresent yourself and ongoing your gripe with the CWC casinos.
 
How dare anyone imply that a site making huge $$$ as an affiliate of and/or seller of ad space to a casino would in ANY WAY AT ALL be in a conflict of interest when arbitrating a dispute between an individual who provides zero direct revenue to that site versus the sugar daddy...err, casino?

Also excited to check out the new slot machine in Atlantic City branded with members of the New Jersey Gaming Commission!

DougmanCT was just praising Clubworld about a month ago. He seems to follow terms and gets paid by Clubworld. Why all of a sudden the attack in this situation? Are you a friend of Shaky? Also very classy way to insult the forum your partaking in. You have all of 25 posts here. DO you really even know much obout the site or PAB process?


If anyone cares to check the record you'll see the "bigsmile" has been moaning about Highnoon and CWC pretty much since sign-on date one year ago. Whatever the substance of your complaints you'd be a little more credible if you didn't misrepresent yourself and ongoing your gripe with the CWC casinos.

Yeah I see that Bigsmile complains about the bonuses constantly. But I also see the rep went out of her way to help him with an issue that had nothing even to do with Clubworld.

Now heres what gets me. Big smile complains about Clubworld but his preference of casino is Locopanda, GrandParker, Begado, Virtual. I think that list of casinos just about sums it up.
 
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Also, many people seemed to get angry then get banned from the forum when discussing CWC...
The only people that get banned here are spammers, PITAs, fraudsters, and trolls. Take your pick. Which one do you want to be?
 
Bible quote John? ;)

Close, General Posting Rules FAQ;

1.19 - Posting defamatory comments or conducting malicious attacks directed at Casinomeister: members who slander, post defamatory comments or other personal garbage directed toward the Casinomeister brand, its owner, employees, or moderators, anywhere on the Internet will be swiftly booted from the site. Spamming, DDoS attacks, or any other criminal activity will be dealt with as well.

This was for Dougmanct.

I don't understand how people can dis this site. Bryan promotes a group of casinos and offers assistance to players who have some kind of issue with them. If people can't follow a simple rules regarding casino T&C's of course he will have to side with the casino or at least find them not at fault.

If you follow the casino T&C's and give them what they ask for and they still give you a hard time he will side with the player but how often does that happen with his Accredited Casinos?

If it's a so-called minor T&C infraction the casino may let it slide but why should they play ball with the player if the player didn't play ball with them in the first place?

Sorry, but I think Dougmanct should be on vacation right now with Bigsmile caddying for him.
 
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