getting way too hard to get paid any more

[debzy]

I had a withdrawal at iNetBet which I requested via paymycard. For some reason, after months of it going through without a hitch in 3 days, they're saying my bank declined the transaction. They suggested mypaylinq, and since I already had an account I saw that you could withdraw from there via western union. I had to make a $50 deposit to the account and then a deposit to iNetBet, which I did. iNetBet said once I did that I could withdraw to mypaylinq and then out. Well yeah, but it says, in the fine print, that you have to wait 30 days and since I haven't seen anything good about mypaylinq, I canceled my withdrawal. Seriously? 30 days? Anyone know if this is true and if so, what other choice do I have with iNetBet? OKPay seems so complicated to deposit to...I'm getting really frustrated. How do I get my money without going through all these hoops and waiting forever?

 

[rockycatt]

whats wrong with currier check?

 

[debzy]

Not a thing - I asked for a check but they pushed me towards mypaylinq. If I could get a check I'd be very happy. I've asked them for one again - I'll see what they say.

 

[chuchu59]

What do you mean by them pushing you to paylinq. Was it merely a suggestion?

 

[debzy]

I felt like it was a little more than a nudge, when you consider that I had never deposited with that method before and they had to know that I couldn't withdraw for 30 days. Who knows? Maybe they didn't know that. I don't think badly of them for it because I know they were trying to help, but why not suggest a check in the first place? Certainly it would have gotten the job done and I'd have had my money much sooner instead of investing $50 in a process that would not help me in the short term. I still don't know why my bank would decline the transaction using paymycard but then I can't really ask them.

 

[rockycatt]

I felt like it was a little more than a nudge, when you consider that I had never deposited with that method before and they had to know that I couldn't withdraw for 30 days. Who knows? Maybe they didn't know that. I don't think badly of them for it because I know they were trying to help, but why not suggest a check in the first place? Certainly it would have gotten the job done and I'd have had my money much sooner instead of investing $50 in a process that would not help me in the short term. I still don't know why my bank would decline the transaction using paymycard but then I can't really ask them.

why cant you ask inet if the what the wire might suggest to the bank that they might decline it and then if its not a positive /only thing that that wallet does just ask your bank just why they wont accept it

im not trying to scold you because I know the frustration im just trying to help with what I think might help

 

[debzy]

I understand and actually thought of asking them that this morning. It has to be something they changed in the wording, I agree.

 

[debzy]

I'm trying very hard to maintain my cool here. Can someone tell me how to PM the rep from iNetBet? They still won't give me a check or tell me why paymycard was declined all of a sudden after months of withdrawing that way. They are insistent that I use mypaylinq and I just don't want to. I deposited originally with a credit card, not mypaylinq. The mypaylinq deposit was made only to set up the account, which I now regret doing. They told me I could withdraw that right back out again. I really don't understand what is going on.

 

[ilovejesus]

hi

I'm trying very hard to maintain my cool here. Can someone tell me how to PM the rep from iNetBet? They still won't give me a check or tell me why paymycard was declined all of a sudden after months of withdrawing that way. They are insistent that I use mypaylinq and I just don't want to. I deposited originally with a credit card, not mypaylinq. The mypaylinq deposit was made only to set up the account, which I now regret doing. They told me I could withdraw that right back out again. I really don't understand what is going on.

m https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/members/ best of luck

 

[debzy]

thank you very much!

 

[weesie]

I was excited when mypaylinq came on line............ for about a day or two.

I opened my account and tried to get to where I could deposit using it. My credit union denied its services. Said it was in "Cyprus" and Cyprus is supposedly well known for fraud. (according to my credit union anyway) This is not the only "Cyprus" based service. I have had a few times, with different companies, rejected by my bank. All of them based in Cyprus.

I do remember something about having to wait 30 days to request a withdrawal too.

Not worth the trouble.

 

[vinylweatherman]

I was excited when mypaylinq came on line............ for about a day or two.

I opened my account and tried to get to where I could deposit using it. My credit union denied its services. Said it was in "Cyprus" and Cyprus is supposedly well known for fraud. (according to my credit union anyway) This is not the only "Cyprus" based service. I have had a few times, with different companies, rejected by my bank. All of them based in Cyprus.

I do remember something about having to wait 30 days to request a withdrawal too.

Not worth the trouble.

Surely the casinos know this, yet they are forcefully steering players towards it. The fact that it is in Cyprus should also alarm casinos, and they should view this option as high risk, and only suitable for the more dedicated players. If banks have a blanket block on anything Cyprus related, then it is a waste of time steering players towards it, and also costly because where the casino chooses a processor that runs off with the money, players hold the casino responsible for making good the loss.

The only use for such an option is to move money between different casinos, and not worrying too much about getting any winnings back home. This may suit some players, but many want at least some of their winnings back as "real" money that they can spend in the shops.

 

[debzy]

I have sent a PM to Emily. Support is now sending me one line responses with no greeting or closing. They won't even consider letting me use something else. I did get them to send me a check for the first withdrawal but they won't add this one to it. If they're going to be sending a check anyway, what would be the harm, right? No, they say because I used mypaylinq to make a deposit then that's the only place this withdrawal can go. I'm really disappointed that they're treating me like this...as much as I like iNetBet, this is leaving a bitter taste in my mouth.

 

[vinylweatherman]

I have sent a PM to Emily. Support is now sending me one line responses with no greeting or closing. They won't even consider letting me use something else. I did get them to send me a check for the first withdrawal but they won't add this one to it. If they're going to be sending a check anyway, what would be the harm, right? No, they say because I used mypaylinq to make a deposit then that's the only place this withdrawal can go. I'm really disappointed that they're treating me like this...as much as I like iNetBet, this is leaving a bitter taste in my mouth.

They now bear full responsibilty if mypaylinq lose your money, and will be expected to make good any loss.

They should also be able to put pressure on mypaylinq to not hold your money to ransom for 30 days.

These rules are not as firm as casinos claim, it's bullshit. A few years ago, loads of Playtech casinos were telling customers who deposited via Neteller that they had to accept a cheque. It seems the anti money laundering rules could be set aside at the whim of the casinos, as they would stipulate that these players MUST be paid back to Neteller if that is where the deposit came from.

I even had this BS from Roxy Palace a couple of times many years ago, where they claimed they couldn't pay me back to Neteller even though I had never deposited any other way.

If operators can pick and choose whether or not to strictly apply these money laundering regulations, they can choose to waive them if you kick up a big enough fuss. A check really shouldn't be a problem if they are already sending one, and this option has worked for you in the past. If checks have suddenly stopped working, they should not be sending ANY of your withdrawals out that way, else they will end up with having to pay up twice.

As far as the US is concerned, it is still "money laundering" whether or not they apply these international standards, and in effect, it IS money laundering because the transactions have to be disguised in order to make it through in any case.

 

[katodog]

I am in the same boat. Requested check, but they sent it through mypaylinq. That was 1-13-13. Still no reply from mypaylinq and messages unanswered

 

[vinylweatherman]

I am in the same boat. Requested check, but they sent it through mypaylinq. That was 1-13-13. Still no reply from mypaylinq and messages unanswered

This is even more worrying, as it raises the possibility that mypaylinq has gone the way of EWX, and casinos are sending players' funds into a black hole.

I recall the EWX episode, and it became obvious that operators were intentionally throwing their players under the bus by lying about what they really knew was going on, and insisting on sending further withdrawals to a method that they had good reason to believe was defunct, and that players would never see their money. Many tried to minimise the problems, but despite their assurances, EWX was dropped like the proverbial hot potato from the DEPOSIT options.

This is probably where to look, are casinos quietly dropping mypaylinq as a deposit option?

 

[debzy]

This is even more worrying, as it raises the possibility that mypaylinq has gone the way of EWX, and casinos are sending players' funds into a black hole.

I recall the EWX episode, and it became obvious that operators were intentionally throwing their players under the bus by lying about what they really knew was going on, and insisting on sending further withdrawals to a method that they had good reason to believe was defunct, and that players would never see their money. Many tried to minimise the problems, but despite their assurances, EWX was dropped like the proverbial hot potato from the DEPOSIT options.

This is probably where to look, are casinos quietly dropping mypaylinq as a deposit option?

It says right on the mypaylinq website that Clubword and 3Dice no longer use them:

DUE TO TECHNICAL ISSUES, TRANSFERS TO THE CLUBWORLD CASINO GROUP ROOMS, AND 3DICE CASINO HAVE BEEN DISABLED. IF YOU USED THESE MERCHANTS, YOUR DEPOSIT ABILITY HAS BEEN RESTRICTED. IF YOU WILL BE USING A DIFFERENT MERCHANT, PLEASE CONTACT support@mypaylinq.com IN ORDER TO HAVE YOUR DEPOSIT OPTION RE-ENABLED.

And Bovada doesn't use them either.

 

[weplant]

Wow..Time to say goodbye to Inetbet!! Too much hassle...

 

[katodog]

This is even more worrying, as it raises the possibility that mypaylinq has gone the way of EWX, and casinos are sending players' funds into a black hole.

I recall the EWX episode, and it became obvious that operators were intentionally throwing their players under the bus by lying about what they really knew was going on, and insisting on sending further withdrawals to a method that they had good reason to believe was defunct, and that players would never see their money. Many tried to minimise the problems, but despite their assurances, EWX was dropped like the proverbial hot potato from the DEPOSIT options.

This is probably where to look, are casinos quietly dropping mypaylinq as a deposit option?

Yep and my withdrawal is $850.00

I just sent a pm to inetbet rep asking if I cancel it at mypaylinq and re-deposit to casino, if they can let me withdraw with a different method. I haven't heard back yet.

 

[vinylweatherman]

It says right on the mypaylinq website that Clubword and 3Dice no longer use them:

DUE TO TECHNICAL ISSUES, TRANSFERS TO THE CLUBWORLD CASINO GROUP ROOMS, AND 3DICE CASINO HAVE BEEN DISABLED. IF YOU USED THESE MERCHANTS, YOUR DEPOSIT ABILITY HAS BEEN RESTRICTED. IF YOU WILL BE USING A DIFFERENT MERCHANT, PLEASE CONTACT support@mypaylinq.com IN ORDER TO HAVE YOUR DEPOSIT OPTION RE-ENABLED.

And Bovada doesn't use them either.

This is VERY odd indeed. In the past, the wallet has said everything is fine (bar a few "technical issues"), and it has been casinos pulling the method. This is all back to front, with mypaylinq ditching it's merchants. Not only that, but they are punishing PLAYERS for having deposited to those merchants by not merely disabling them, but preventing the player from using mypaylinq at all until they contact support for an "unlock".

It looks like mypaylinq can't actually enforce this yet, so are locking accounts that they find have been depositing to these merchants. This all takes place offshore at this stage, so this looks like a very big "spat" between a wallet and a big casino group (CWC), who are having none of the BS from mypaylinq and will continue accepting the method so long as it works. 3Dice seems an odd target, but maybe they have done something to anger mypaylinq.

If this really was just a "technical issue", there would be no need to lock mypaylinq accounts from depositing at unaffected merchants, nor any need to appear to "discipline" customers for using these merchants whilst these technical issues have been around. Even if players carried on trying to deposit to CWC, surely this wouldn't bother mypaylinq because the technical issues would cause the attempts to fail, and it would be CWC support getting the flak over it if they were still showing mypaylinq as available.

Well, call their bluff, thank them for informing you of these issues and say that you will use alternative merchants. Unless they are lying, they should have no problem resetting accounts so that these other merchants can receive deposits.

If they stall, it would be evidence that they are trying to stop players from getting their cash out ahead of a potential failure. Players had similar problems in getting their money out of EWX in the weeks leading up to the time when all merchants pulled the option. It seemed that payments to EWX got through, but all attempts to deposit to a merchant, or withdraw to a bank, suffered "technical problems". We now knew that merchants knew what had happened, and some were deliberately paying withdrawals back to EWX in order to shift liabilty from themselves, whilst knowing that this money would never reach the player.

The signs all point to players having to get their money out of mypaylinq whilst they can. Rather than withdraw from a merchant who insists on sending it back to mypaylinq, sit tight until things settle down. If mypaylinq fails, then the money is sitting in the casino, and they no longer have the option to insist on sending it back to mypaylinq to dodge liabilty. They will have no choice then but to pay out to an alternative method. Some players delayed withdrawals during the EWX meltdown, and managed to get their money from the casino once they could no longer send it back to EWX. It meant being patient and trusting the casino over EWX to keep the money safe, a good call in the case of EWX, and probably a good call for all US facing wallets.

 

[debzy]

I think what upsets me the most is that if I hadn't blindly done what they "suggested" and verified my mypaylinq account by making a deposit to iNetBet they would have no choice but to pay me by check because nothing else worked. I guess I have only myself to blame at this point and I'd rather play the money out than trust it to mypaylinq. I'm sure that's what they're hoping I'll do anyway...

I don't want to turn this into an I hate iNetBet thread because I don't hate them. I'm just really disappointed that they would do this to me after all these years of playing there.

 

[secret2]

I think that Inetbet is the only RTG casino for the USA that accepts MPL,anymore.

Best bet is to open an OK-Pay account, that way you are covered by almost all USA casinos.

I have used MPL a lot in the past but because of issues, as you have stated, it is not a wise thing to do...as Inetbet seems to be the only casino that still uses them.

Side note: If you used MPL to cash out, then it is a requirement to deposit with casino first, before withdrawel...correct me if I am wrong.

 

[vinylweatherman]

I think what upsets me the most is that if I hadn't blindly done what they "suggested" and verified my mypaylinq account by making a deposit to iNetBet they would have no choice but to pay me by check because nothing else worked. I guess I have only myself to blame at this point and I'd rather play the money out than trust it to mypaylinq. I'm sure that's what they're hoping I'll do anyway...

I don't want to turn this into an I hate iNetBet thread because I don't hate them. I'm just really disappointed that they would do this to me after all these years of playing there.

How about you just let it sit there. This is iNetBet, and your money is going to be safer sat there than in mypaylinq (which seems to be on the way out). If mypaylinq dies, or shuts out iNetBet as it has Club World, then you can withdraw it via another method, and iNetBet would have little choice in the matter.

There has to be a reason why mypaylinq has stopped working almost everywhere. Someone there, or at the casinos, knows the truth, but they are keeping quiet to cover their own asses. You may have more luck getting an answer from a casino that has already severed it's links with mypaylinq, as they would have already covered their ass, and might be willing to throw mypaylinq under the bus than have their players be told by mypaylinq that it is the casino that has done something dodgy, not mypaylinq.

 

[debzy]

I think that Inetbet is the only RTG casino for the USA that accepts MPL,anymore.

Best bet is to open an OK-Pay account, that way you are covered by almost all USA casinos.

I have used MPL a lot in the past but because of issues, as you have stated, it is not a wise thing to do...as Inetbet seems to be the only casino that still uses them.

Side note: If you used MPL to cash out, then it is a requirement to deposit with casino first, before withdrawel...correct me if I am wrong.

Yes, you are correct in that you have to make a deposit with the casino before withdrawal. Had I done my homework BEFORE I did so, I'd better off because then I'd have no ties with MPL and they would have had to send me a check. Because I thought it was a viable option, I went ahead and made the deposit. Now they are saying that because I did, I have to withdraw to MPL regardless of how I deposited to start.

I don't really know anything about OKPay and I hesitate to get involved with any other kind of wallet. That being said, I doubt they would withdraw to OKPay without making me deposit again and quite frankly I'm trying to get money out, not put more in.