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Reelsoffun is nearly there with Bonanza, it's 71-25% base-feature split. The 24bn spins testing example is not shocking at all unless taken out of context. It's simply indicative of a low-medium variance slot and is exactly what you'd expect, with 1000x + hits being extremely rare, relying on all the planets lining up and the shade temperature outside your house being 22.3c when you hit it - you get the picture.

I can see why developers won't put this info out like JFTW have - look what's happened here, people have immediately focussed on the stand-out 1100-odd x hit and the number of spins in testing and gone off at a tangent labelling it some kind of rip-off when in fact the figures are perfectly acceptable for a 96% low-medium volatility game.
 
Aye, Just asking in general terms if this was done before it started and if any providers even signed up. It was an interesting topic and idea. Actually has anyone seen dunover lately? :)

Agreed!

Also curiosities like...
How many CM members were locked in Dunover’s vault?

Or
How can providers be confident that selection of participants was unbiased and fairly measured using the selection criteria across the forum members?

Or
Many more interesting questions that I won’t ask as they sound harsh typed.....
 
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I highly doubt it has so few combinations, even my very basic 5 reel slots have 33 million minimum and a lot have just shy of 2 billion reel stops.
@KasinoKing , I know you were part of the reel mapping back in the day, before I joined the forum. I think it was Zooie (?) that did a Thunderstruck emulator?
Thunderstruck has 30 x 30 x 30 x 30 x 44 combinations = 36,640,000
Because there are 9 win-lines and only 1 wild per reel, the chances of getting the jackpot are 1/9 of that = 1 in 3,960,000
(I guess that's the figure you were thinking of).

I did the reel mapping (MANUALLY by just looking at the reels) - someone else (Zoozie?) did the emulator.
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Of course, Thunderstruck is what I call a "Reely Random" slot; i.e. The reels have a fixed strip of symbols and each symbol has the exact same chance of landing on line 1 - both in the base game & free-spins.
Most other modern slots work in completely different ways, which I am not even going to pretend to understand.

KK
 
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crikey! I forgot about this thread so may as well update it.

I did select a list of time-served members here who demonstrate enough knowledge of slots etc.

We have done a few jobs to date, obviously I cannot divulge them on here in public for the reasons stated earlier in the thread.

The testers were selected so I had a range of nationalities and ages plus a proportion of each gender.

There are many good members who weren't asked, simply because we have a massive demographic bias here in favour of male players, UK and in the 35-55 age group.

The developers often request directing test games towards certain markets, or a spread of them and may ask for certain age groups or gender to be favoured.

The irony is, those developers that you perceive to need advice most tend to be the large ones and least likely to use us!

Rest assured, there are a couple of games you may very well have played recently that did have changes made upon our collective recommendations and advice. :thumbsup:
 
crikey! I forgot about this thread so may as well update it.

I did select a list of time-served members here who demonstrate enough knowledge of slots etc.

We have done a few jobs to date, obviously I cannot divulge them on here in public for the reasons stated earlier in the thread.

The testers were selected so I had a range of nationalities and ages plus a proportion of each gender.

There are many good members who weren't asked, simply because we have a massive demographic bias here in favour of male players, UK and in the 35-55 age group.

The developers often request directing test games towards certain markets, or a spread of them and may ask for certain age groups or gender to be favoured.

The irony is, those developers that you perceive to need advice most tend to be the large ones and least likely to use us!

Rest assured, there are a couple of games you may very well have played recently that did have changes made upon our collective recommendations and advice. :thumbsup:

Each gender? I hope you haven't excluded the 74 others when deliberating :mad:
 
crikey! I forgot about this thread so may as well update it.

I did select a list of time-served members here who demonstrate enough knowledge of slots etc.

We have done a few jobs to date, obviously I cannot divulge them on here in public for the reasons stated earlier in the thread.

The testers were selected so I had a range of nationalities and ages plus a proportion of each gender.

There are many good members who weren't asked, simply because we have a massive demographic bias here in favour of male players, UK and in the 35-55 age group.

The developers often request directing test games towards certain markets, or a spread of them and may ask for certain age groups or gender to be favoured.

The irony is, those developers that you perceive to need advice most tend to be the large ones and least likely to use us!

Rest assured, there are a couple of games you may very well have played recently that did have changes made upon our collective recommendations and advice. :thumbsup:

Is that why so much crap has been released lately:eek:

Honestly i was joking before i get lynched:p:D
 
crikey! I forgot about this thread so may as well update it.

I did select a list of time-served members here who demonstrate enough knowledge of slots etc.

We have done a few jobs to date, obviously I cannot divulge them on here in public for the reasons stated earlier in the thread.

The testers were selected so I had a range of nationalities and ages plus a proportion of each gender.

There are many good members who weren't asked, simply because we have a massive demographic bias here in favour of male players, UK and in the 35-55 age group.

The developers often request directing test games towards certain markets, or a spread of them and may ask for certain age groups or gender to be favoured.

The irony is, those developers that you perceive to need advice most tend to be the large ones and least likely to use us!

Rest assured, there are a couple of games you may very well have played recently that did have changes made upon our collective recommendations and advice. :thumbsup:
Thanks for the update. I recently got Microsoft office so am able to participate but thought you were forgetting about me. Thanks for the clarification of what the software developers want in testers :) Although I do think the developers are making mistakes in developing slots to target a very narrow age and gender range. But hey, that's just me.
 
Thanks for the update. I recently got Microsoft office so am able to participate but thought you were forgetting about me. Thanks for the clarification of what the software developers want in testers :) Although I do think the developers are making mistakes in developing slots to target a very narrow age and gender range. But hey, that's just me.

It's not that they're targeting a specific age range, but they like to see the variation of opinions from younger and older, male and female players. That's purely the marketing aspect though, as opposed to general technical testing.
 
So am I! Oops I forgot...I am an outcast.

BigD didn’t invite me as I’m not special enough or perhaps don’t kiss thr tin hat as others do.
As for the BS about selecting demographically based on the number of people available in various ages/locations....how would you know such personal info about members when you haven’t even asked???
It seems that CAG status, or MM contributions or number of likes or trophy points (you know??? The measurable things) didn’t factor.
In fact, I’m sure it says (or it said) in the CAG member info that a role is game testing.../. Ah well.

But then, if you are ‘IN’ the Dunover clan of ex-YT followers then you’re set for life.

And before anyone says it... yes this IS sour grapes but it has niggled away at me for months...so I’ve said it now and feel happier.
 
So am I! Oops I forgot...I am an outcast.

BigD didn’t invite me as I’m not special enough or perhaps don’t kiss thr tin hat as others do.
As for the BS about selecting demographically based on the number of people available in various ages/locations....how would you know such personal info about members when you haven’t even asked???
It seems that CAG status, or MM contributions or number of likes or trophy points (you know??? The measurable things) didn’t factor.
In fact, I’m sure it says (or it said) in the CAG member info that a role is game testing.../. Ah well.

But then, if you are ‘IN’ the Dunover clan of ex-YT followers then you’re set for life.

And before anyone says it... yes this IS sour grapes but it has niggled away at me for months...so I’ve said it now and feel happier.


Well that was something, Well I love you supababe. :)
 
Us Canadians have not been asked yet to test fwiw. :)
well, there's really no way of knowing - the people that participate arent to post theyve participated, so we've truly no clue who has or hasnt :)
 

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