Gambling Log

[EasyRhino]

Incidentally, I did the Villento signup bonus. Since it limited withdrawals (unlike regular mg ezbonuses), I treated it as a straight cashable bonus. And since French roulette was barely +EV, I did 600 spins of one-dollar bets on autoplay, betting on black. Expected remaining bonus would be only $21, but I got a little lucky and ended up with $74.

 

[aka23]

Incidentally, I did the Villento signup bonus. Since it limited withdrawals (unlike regular mg ezbonuses), I treated it as a straight cashable bonus. And since French roulette was barely +EV, I did 600 spins of one-dollar bets on autoplay, betting on black. Expected remaining bonus would be only $21, but I got a little lucky and ended up with $74.

I wasn't aware that they limited withdrawls. I recall that they had conflicting T&C information in their sign on bonus. The general T&C listed no BJ towards wagering, but they also wrote, "Where use of the Bonus System is in place for the promotion, the terms and conditions around the Bonus System will prevail." ,implying he usual MG Clearplay bonus rules listed elsewhere took priority. I gained $530 on the $100 sign up bonus and cashed out without issue (aside from taking longer than expected). As stated previously, I lost the $530 and more later.

 

[aka23]

I hit this on my third spin at King Neptune's. I had two bonus rounds during the free spins and many large wins.

 

[aka23]

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If only I had been in real mode, rather than play mode. Considering my history of always coming out ahead at King Neptune's, maybe I should try a few slot spins.

 

[Mousey]

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If only I had been in real mode, rather than play mode. Considering my history of always coming out ahead at King Neptune's, maybe I should try a few slot spins.

You had me going! Precisely why I don't play in free mode anymore-- I ALWAYS win.

I do enjoy reading your log. Thanks for posting your adventures.

 

[patswin]

aka23-

I've been watching your thread for the last couple of months and have a question so I decided to register on the forum. I noticed a while back you mentioned that after a good hit on the MG EZ bonus you attempted to meet the WR playing french roulette. Can you tell me how you played this, and is it worth it to try and meet the WR this way? I just did Casino Share and made a nice score and was wondering if its worth it to try and meet the WR playing FR or just cashing out and losing the bonus. I know nothing about FR but i would learn it if its worth it.

thanks, and keep posting please.

 

[10pins]

you want to lose it ? go to SLOTLAND

i used to think slotland had the best customer service but 2 weeks ago they turned bad with a capital B. try that one and let us know what you think. i'm very anxious to get some other opinions on slotland. i will tell you my experience later. although i don't want you to get ripped off i think it would be interesting to see what you think. please anybody give me your impression of slotland.
i know one thing they are not. GAMBLING COMMISSIONER APPROVED like it said on their website for 7 years. (they took the logo off now but not until i told them that i have known about it all this time. i tried sending an e-mauil to the gambling com. about 7 years ago. then again the weekend of the 16th . same reply NOTHING. hmmmmm that made me start thinking. well just try for yourself and let us know.
thanks

 

[EasyRhino]

patswin, regarding mg's french roulette (and casinoshare!) I think I can fill in the logic.

I also checked out casino share. Maxed out their deposit at $250, got a bonus to bring bank to $500. Played risky blackjack and got to a bank of $1000. $250 of that is still "sticky" so do I try to grind it out, or withdraw?

The "base" WR for casinoshare is 30x bonus. For playing non-american roulettes, this is doubled. In other words, $15,000. The house edge in french roulette if you place an even-money bet (black, odd, etc) is 1.35%. So, if you wager $15,000, your expected loss is $202.50. This is still less than the $250 sticky bonus that you could clear, so it's barely a positive expected value to go ahead and grind it out.

However, variance can be a bitch. I set the autoplay to 9000 one-dollar spins (on black) and left the house today. When I got back, the 9000 spins had spun, and I had lost $432, and the entire bonus still hadn't been cleared yet.

I don't know if this is within the realm of mathematical expectation, of if microgaming's number generator got confused.

If you want to autoplay like a maniac, go to expert mode, set zero seconds between spins, turn on the turbospin option, and you'll probably want to turn sound off too.

I'm actually on spin 1400/5000 of my followup round while typing this.

 

[aka23]

You had me going! Precisely why I don't play in free mode anymore-- I ALWAYS win.

I do enjoy reading your log. Thanks for posting your adventures.

Thanks. I played my 1xD wagering with today's Grand Prive bonus on Mad Hatters. It did not go as well as my free mode experience. I dropped nearly 40% of my deposit.. from $50 to ~$30. I made it up and more in BJ. First I bet half backroll and won, then I bet half bankroll and drew a BJ. I played 4 more $1 bets. 2 were BJ's, so 3 of my 6 hands were BJ's. The odds of that happening randomly are about 1 in 500. After the losses and gains, I had a net gain of about $75 on a $25 bonus.

I wish I had deposited more than just $50. I never risk more than $50 on a 50% bonus any more.

 

[aka23]

aka23-

I've been watching your thread for the last couple of months and have a question so I decided to register on the forum. I noticed a while back you mentioned that after a good hit on the MG EZ bonus you attempted to meet the WR playing french roulette. Can you tell me how you played this, and is it worth it to try and meet the WR this way? I just did Casino Share and made a nice score and was wondering if its worth it to try and meet the WR playing FR or just cashing out and losing the bonus. I know nothing about FR but i would learn it if its worth it.

thanks, and keep posting please.

Along the same lines as what Easy Rhino wrote, French Roulette has a 1.35% house advantage. So if you wager 60xB you are expected to retain (1-60*1.35%) of the bonus = 19% of the bonus. When playing through a bonus on FR, I put $1 on red or black, then put it on autoplay for 500 spins, stopping if I gain or lose $25. The bonus is cashed in increments. Each time you playthrough $300 ($600 on FR), you get $10 of the bonus.

If the expected gain of ~$50 on the $250 bonus is very small compared to your gain, you may not want to risk anything and just cash out. If you have more of a risk tolerance, you may want to play through. I'd recommend attempting to play through the first $10 of the bonus. Your large BJ wagers may have already gone through a good chunk of this wagering. Set a limit, ad if you lose to much along the way, stop and cash out. Casino share French Roulette seems especially streaky, so there is a good chance you will gain or lose $25 while playing through the first $10 of the bonus.

 

[EasyRhino]

No kidding about streaks in roulette. My bankroll at casinoshare dropped 420 dollars clearing the bonus, which, of course, didn't even cover the $250 bonus money that the wagering claered.

 

[aka23]

i used to think slotland had the best customer service but 2 weeks ago they turned bad with a capital B. try that one and let us know what you think. i'm very anxious to get some other opinions on slotland. i will tell you my experience later. although i don't want you to get ripped off i think it would be interesting to see what you think. please anybody give me your impression of slotland.
i know one thing they are not. GAMBLING COMMISSIONER APPROVED like it said on their website for 7 years. (they took the logo off now but not until i told them that i have known about it all this time. i tried sending an e-mauil to the gambling com. about 7 years ago. then again the weekend of the 16th . same reply NOTHING. hmmmmm that made me start thinking. well just try for yourself and let us know.
thanks

That's an interesting post. Did you intend it to be in this log? For a variety of reasons (no table games, not reputable SW, no quality bonus), I am going to pass on Slotland.

 

[aka23]

However, variance can be a bitch. I set the autoplay to 9000 one-dollar spins (on black) and left the house today. When I got back, the 9000 spins had spun, and I had lost $432, and the entire bonus still hadn't been cleared yet.

I don't know if this is within the realm of mathematical expectation, of if microgaming's number generator got confused.

The odds of a $432 loss over 9000 $1 spins are about 1 in 2000 , if I did my math right. Possible, but very unlikely. This was a binomial approximation with the FR odds.

How did you set the autoplay to 9000 spins? I thought the limit was 500.

 

[aka23]

No kidding about streaks in roulette. My bankroll at casinoshare dropped 420 dollars clearing the bonus, which, of course, didn't even cover the $250 bonus money that the wagering claered.

I noticed many odd streaks when I played at CasinoShare. I almost always gained or lost $25 before I reached 500 spins. However, I gained more than expected overall.

You said you bet on black. I always start out on red. I've won more often at the start since making this change. I always thought it was a silly superstition. You are making me wonder.

 

[EasyRhino]

You can type in your own number up to 9999 when setting autoplay.

Actually, I did about 3000 spins, paused, then about 6000 spins. Loss between two was $430 with one-dollar black bets.

Ironically, I continued playing after that and the next 5000 spins resulted in about a +20 gain (in addition to clearing more bonus)

I always bet on black because of the Wesley Snipes movie, Passenger 57

 

[aka23]

You can type in your own number up to 9999 when setting autoplay.

Actually, I did about 3000 spins, paused, then about 6000 spins. Loss between two was $430 with one-dollar black bets.

Ironically, I continued playing after that and the next 5000 spins resulted in about a +20 gain (in addition to clearing more bonus)

I always bet on black because of the Wesley Snipes movie, Passenger 57

I didn't know that you could type numbers in the pull down menu. I'll definitely do that the next time I use autoplay.

 

[aka23]

I gained $160 on Jupiter's $150 100% match bonus today. That brings my net gain at Jupiter over $1,500 and moves it to #3 on my cumulative gain list! I'm glad I moved to $1 bets after the big win. It was 6 hands before I had another win -- a blackjack.

 

[EasyRhino]

I gained $160 on Jupiter's $150 100% match bonus today. That brings my net gain at Jupiter over $1,500 and moves it to #3 on my cumulative gain list! I'm glad I moved to $1 bets after the big win. It was 6 hands before I had another win -- a blackjack.

Not bad, I just lost my first $100 to Jupiter before reading this post.

Silly question, but was there any particular reason you even played the $1 bets? It's generally not a +EV move with the microgaming casinos... did you just want to play some cards?

 

[patswin]

I gained $160 on Jupiter's $150 100% match bonus today. That brings my net gain at Jupiter over $1,500 and moves it to #3 on my cumulative gain list! I'm glad I moved to $1 bets after the big win. It was 6 hands before I had another win -- a blackjack.

I am jealous of the offers you are getting from the Grand Prive group. You get the 100% match offers and they only thing I have ever gotten from them is 25% match up to $250. I never have got a 100% match offer. I wonder why?

 

[aka23]

Not bad, I just lost my first $100 to Jupiter before reading this post.

Silly question, but was there any particular reason you even played the $1 bets? It's generally not a +EV move with the microgaming casinos... did you just want to play some cards?

There are two reasons:

1. By making many bets instead of just 1 bet, I am less likely to be labeled as a bonus abuser.

2. I have generally done very well with MG bonuses, better than statiscially expected. The two big exceptions are Villento and Slots Royale -- #2 and #3 on my largest cummulative loss list. In both cases I did very well on the sign on bonus. My losses game on subsequent bonuses. I seemed to lose over and over. I mentioned a similar pattern in my previous post about yesterday at Jupiter. I won big, then lost 5 hands in a row. This pattern has appeared many times -- win big, then lose several hands in a row. Maybe its just a coincidence. Maybe not. In any case, I've done quite well since I started playing these losing hands at $1 bets instead of very large ones. For similar reasons I usually switch from ACBJG to ACBJ, if I want to make another half-bankroll bet. Again, it may be a silly superstition, but it works for me.

 

[aka23]

I am jealous of the offers you are getting from the Grand Prive group. You get the 100% match offers and they only thing I have ever gotten from them is 25% match up to $250. I never have got a 100% match offer. I wonder why?

I received an offer for a 100% match up to $250 today. All these bonuses are coming from Jupiter, Bella Vegas, and Casino Grand Bay. I don't recall any from Lake Palace. I don't have a good explanation for the difference between our offers. I usually get poorer offers than others at MG casinos. Grand Monaco sent me a 7% bonus offer recently while others have received offers for 50%. I've deposited nearly $2000 to the Grand Prive group in the past week. Such large cash flow may improve my standing. Maybe I'm labeled as a high roller and valuable player.

 

[aka23]

I gained ~$250 on the $250 bonus at Bella's today moving my net gain to ~$1000 -- #6 on my net gain list.

I did the 1xD playthrough on JoB VP, as usual. Aside from one hand, it was my worst VP session ever. I drew many hands with nothing saved and went through a couple dozen hands before I even drew an initial high pair. However, that one hand was my largest win ever on a $5 hand of VP -- $126. I attached a screenshot. I had a net gain of $50 on JoB. I would have had a net loss of $75 on just a 1xD playthrough, if I didn't get that hand.

ACBJG was very similar to last time. I bet the max table limit and won, then switched to $1 hands. I went another 5 hands before a win, and again that win was a BJ.

My net gain is up to ~$22,500. I'm planning to use my winnings to buy a nice car and replace some furniture and carpets that my puppy damaged. I'll go shopping for cars this weekend.

 

[NoMouthToScream]

Nice doggie, I thought you retired. Spend the money already.

 

[aka23]

Nice doggie, I thought you retired. Spend the money already.

Thanks. It's "semi-retired". My plan was to rarely play unless there was an offer to good to pass up, then Grand Prive kept sending me quality offers.

 

[aka23]

Congratulations on the win. And thanks for reminding me of the $8.40 in comps. I forgot about those.

I take back my thanks. My withdrawl was denied because Powerbet requires you to playthrough comps 60x or 120x on Blackjack before you can cash out previous winnings!!! I did not take risks and use progressive betting with the new 120x$8.4 playthrough. Instead I bet the $5 min on all hands with conservative doubling and splitting. My net loss from the $8.40 in comps was roughly $55.

The majority of my cashouts at RTG casinos are denied, and the ones that do go through may take weeks. I am growing to hate RTG, even though I usually do well.