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One fun little anecdote in my own personal bonus-hustling.

I picked up a $10 freechip from a Casino Rewards family casino (Virtual City). The minimum cashout here is $50, so I just placed the chip on a six-number roulette bet, which pays 5 to 1. It actually hit! Ironically, it even hit number 13, which is the number I would pick if it was a single-number bet. Anyway, immediate $50 withdrawal.

(Course, I've tried semi-aggressive roulette bets with small bonuses at many places, and only a few have actually hit. Them's the breaks).
That's a great percentage gain and use of a free chip. I've never played at Virtual City because Casino Rewards banned me from receiving bonuses.

My most impressive percentage gain was the event that I've described many times, which inspired me to begin online gambling. I was in Vegas and had $1 in my pocket. My GF and I decided to bet the $1 on slots before driving home. It was our only bet of the day. That spin won $750.
 
I played at Peach Casino in July and have been trying to make a withdrawl for more than 3 months. I finally was paid by Peach today. They sent me a check for ~$1200 by DHL. At least there was one advantage to Cryptologic banning US players -- Peach finally paid me! I also received a ~$300 check from Littlewoods recently.
 
I notice that the Grand Prive casinos do not let you bet more than $100 on Baccarat so I tried out your ACBJ strategy and I like it. How much cover play do you give them in order to get the weekly bonus offers? I figure $100 in action playing roulette/bacarrat should do it.
 
I notice that the Grand Prive casinos do not let you bet more than $100 on Baccarat so I tried out your ACBJ strategy and I like it. How much cover play do you give them in order to get the weekly bonus offers? I figure $100 in action playing roulette/bacarrat should do it.
There are two versions of baccarat -- baccarat and high-limit baccarat. I believe the max bet is $500 in high-limit baccarat. However, I almost never make large bets in baccarat anymore. As long as I continue to have excellent results with ACBJ, I'll continue with ACBJ. I also like to be able to play more hands and have more control over the outcome.

The weekly bonus offers began for me a week or two after I signed up and made a deposit. I did not do any type of cover play. I simply played the bonus received offers in my email. However, playing without bonuses certainly will improve your standing. I read about an incident less than 1 year ago in which the group banned certain players from receiving bonuses for reasons such as "cashout/bonus ratio is too high compared to my deposits."
 
...snip... However, playing without bonuses certainly will improve your standing. I read about an incident less than 1 year ago in which the group banned certain players from receiving bonuses for reasons such as "cashout/bonus ratio is too high compared to my deposits."

Mousey raises her hand.... Me, me, me! And I deposited often without a bonus. But I was too near being in the black, or actually in the black, at more than one of their casinos. After an embarrassing (to them) fiasco last fall/winter, when they decided this cashout to bonus to deposit ratio was important and denied bonuses left and right, they then honored the bonuses and simply cut a LOT of players off. They (actually, a certain rep) removed my name from their mailing lists at all their casinos and I haven't received any promos from them since. (They actually dumped a lot of their VIP's in this manner.) I did receive the $500 snail mail trying to lure players back, but when I attempted to use the code, I was 'not eligible' for that promotion. They still hate me. :D

A further note about Grand Prive... And something that still bothers me. Before they came right out and began denying bonuses for particular players, many of these same players lost the NETeller function in their banking software. Grand Prive claimed it was a MicroGaming 'glitch' which lasted for months (almost 3 months for me), and was not experienced at another other casino group. We stirred up quite a ruckus, we got our NETeller function back (the 'glitch' was 'fixed'), and almost immediately after the mysterious 'glitch' disappeared we were put on the bonus abuser (bonus/deposits/cashouts ratio) list and denied all bonuses. I just don't like "sneaky".

GP has some of the best bonuses in the industry. It just seems that they take exception to players taking them up on all the offers they send out. ;)
 
Wow! I didn't know all the details, as this occurred before I started gambling. I hope Grand Prive doesn't try something like that again. My issues with the group are far more mild -- the worst Clearplay game weighting of all MG groups, some bonuses not being credited automatically, and not offering me any bonuses recently.
 
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I actually gambled today. I played at Challenge Casino. They offer a series of deposit bonuses -- 25%, then 50%, then 100%. I've stayed away from the Casino Profit Share group because they force you to play through a 100xB FR wagering before cashing out. Unlike typically Clearplays, you cannot cash out early after a win.

I suddently played now because of affiliate payments. One cool thing about having an affiliate site is getting affiliate payments on your own play. They offer an outstanding affiliate program with a $75 CPA bonus for person who deposits $50+.

My plan for play was to deposit the minimum on the first two and the maximum on the third. Unfortunately, it seems the max bonus is based your earlier deposits, so I only received a $20 bonus on the 3rd deposit, instead of the expected $50. My results were as follows:

1. Deposit $20, receive 25% bonus... bust.

2. Deposit $20, receive 50% bonus... build it up to $60. Attempt to complete wagering on FR... bust.

3. Depost $50, receive $20 bonus... build it up to $150. Meet playthrough on FR and cash out at $125.

So my net gain/loss at Challenge Casino was +$35 +$75 CPA = +$110
 
Aka23, I hope you don't mind if I temporarily hijack your thread to post my own gambling log.

As you may have seen in the eternal Winner Screenshots thread (here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here), I have had an absolutely phenomenal week this week.

It started out on Sunday night, I did well in a poker tournament (3rd place) and won $150 or something, not much but it was from a $20 deposit. When the tournament ended it was already past my bedtime so I called it a night.

Monday after getting home from work I popped some of the tournament winnings into the Flash version of 4-hand Aces & Faces and that's when I hit the Royal Flush on one of those hands for $1,000 - which I promptly cashed out. I then played at Crazy Vegas and cashed out $800 from a $100 deposit. I also made my first deposit at Roxy Palace and some good wins at Thunderstruck, Spring Break and Tally Ho turned my $100 deposit into a $1500 withdrawal.

Sometime Tuesday morning the $1800 from the poker room and Crazy Vegas was waiting for me in my Neteller account. Roxy Palace's withdrawal had to go directly into my bank account because they treat Neteller like a credit card, that is, they only pay back into Neteller the amount that you have deposited using Neteller - but since I deposited $100 and withdrew $1500, they would have needed to pay me $1400 some other way so it was best to just have the whole thing go directly into my bank account.

So the $1800 that was in my Neteller Tuesday morning allowed me to play at various places on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday - although I did not win anything worth cashing out. But late Thursday I had worked a $100 deposit up to $400 at Cocoa Casino and iNetBet, both of which I withdrew.

And then there was Friday

I left work early so that I could come home and, well, gamble. :D I put $100 into Casino Extreme and that's when I hit the $3,227 win on Fruit Frenzy. I cashed out $3000 and it was in my Neteller within a couple of minutes. So now there was $3000 worth of "seed money" in my Neteller account. My $400 payout from Cocoa Casino arrived about an hour after my Casino Extreme withdrawal did.

I put some more money into Roxy Palace, and that's when I hit the $2000 win on a bet of $11.25 at Spring Break. I promptly entered a withdrawal for the $2000.

I put some money into Crazy Vegas and hit about $800 on Thunderstruck, I ended up withdrawing $1000.

I deposited into Desert Dollar and was playing 4-hand Deuces and Joker and hit another natural Royal Flush, this time for $4000 because I had been betting $20 total ($5 per individual hand) as opposed to Monday's royal flush which was a total bet of $5 ($1.25 per individual hand). I promptly entered a withdrawal for the $4000 after saving a screenshot.

Back at iNetBet, I hit a win of $1067 on Ronin and withdrew $1000.

At 49er I used their 100% up to $200 slots-only match bonus, which has a $6000 wagering requirement. My bankroll was down to $3.25 at one point! I had been betting big at Fruit Frenzy but had to reduce the bet to $2.50 and that's when I hit the feature, winning $280 or so. Near the end of the $6000 wagering requirement I hit an $870 win on Aladdin's Wishes from a $20 bet. When the WR was met I was left with $950 which I was tempted to try to get up to $1000 but didn't dare - so I withdrew the $950.

That's when I called it a night.

And then there was Saturday

I woke up and put $100 into Club USA casino, and headed to Ronin for some $10 spins. I was down to $37 when I spun it again (bringing my bankroll down to $27) and that's when I hit the feature. My biggest RTG win to date. I got the feature where you get 5 spins with increasing multipliers (1x, 2x, 3x, 4x and then 5x on your 5th spin). If you're lucky enough to retrigger the feature, which you can only do once, you will get another 5 spins with multipliers of 6x, 7x, 8x, 9x and 10x on the 10th spin. I was lucky enough to retrigger the feature - on the 5th spin too. If it would let me I would have retriggered it again because I got the 2 red guy scatter symbols with the round thing in the middle a second time during the free spins but I did not receive another 5 spins. When the reels stopped spinning, that $10 bet had won $4,558.

I withdrew $4200 because I had deposited $100 the night before (and lost it quickly) plus the $100 from today, so a net profit of $4000. The rest I played with, and I hit a good feature on some other game (can't remember) so I ended up reversing the withdrawal and then cashing out $4500. They paid me the weekly limit of $3000 and the other $1500 will come next week.

All week long I had been playing at Lucky Nugget, trying very hard to win something but I just couldn't get anything. Until today. I turned a $200 deposit into $4000, mostly by playing the single-deck blackjack game.

And then came the reversals

Too often, reversing a withdrawal has disastrous consequences. Fortunately for me, today they did not.

I reversed my $950 withdrawal at 49er Casino and played blackjack to get it to $1000.

I reversed my $4000 withdrawal at Lucky Nugget and played blackjack to get it to $5000. I was playing $200 hands of the single-deck game, and I did start to get nervous because I had dropped to around $1800 at one point.

I reversed my $4000 withdrawal at Desert Dollar and played blackjack to get it to $5000.

I reversed my $2000 withdrawal at Roxy Palace and played blackjack to get it to $4000, then a little later I reversed it again to get it up to $5000.

So that's an additional $5050 I won from reversing withdrawals. Just think, if they didn't have a holding period, they would have kept all that money.

Summary

Before this week, I was running a net loss of $4700 over the course of the year. Right now I have $18,500 in pending withdrawals. This puts me at a net profit of $13,800 for the year - the bulk of which was acquired in only 2 days time.

When I think about the new law, I realize that there could not be a better time to have come out ahead.

I leave tomorrow morning on a business trip for a few days. By the time I come back I should have received some or most of my withdrawals, although I am bringing along a laptop so that I can play from the hotel room. :D Thank goodness for free wireless internet and no-download Flash versions of the casinos! :thumbsup:
 
UPDATE: REVERSAL OF FORTUNE LOUNGE

I reversed the $5000 Desert Dollar withdrawal and turned it into $8500. I also placed my first ever $1000 bet tonight (and won it). That's really quite something for a low roller. It was actually a $500 bet, but I was dealt an 8 and a 3 so I doubled to $1000 and was happy to see that 10 come in! :thumbsup: That was on that High Limit European Blackjack which is only available in the Flash version at this particular casino.

Total pending withdrawals........... $22,000
Total profit for the year.............. $17,300
The look on my face right now..... Priceless :D

Okay, now I need to get to bed because I have to drive 6 hours tomorrow.
 
odds calculation

aka23 this is an ideal post for your calculation !

offhand I calculate SJ's results as 67856565622534526337 - 1
 
Keep up the great job

UPDATE: REVERSAL OF FORTUNE LOUNGE

I reversed the $5000 Desert Dollar withdrawal and turned it into $8500. I also placed my first ever $1000 bet tonight (and won it). That's really quite something for a low roller. It was actually a $500 bet, but I was dealt an 8 and a 3 so I doubled to $1000 and was happy to see that 10 come in! :thumbsup: That was on that High Limit European Blackjack which is only available in the Flash version at this particular casino.

Total pending withdrawals........... $22,000
Total profit for the year.............. $17,300
The look on my face right now..... Priceless :D

Okay, now I need to get to bed because I have to drive 6 hours tomorrow.


This is very nice Congrats SlotsJunkie;
Keep up the great job
 
SJ, that's a pretty sick week. Was most of the wagering just straight-up gambling, or where you bonus-chasing for much of it?

And I think BobbySox's odds of having that much success is a little too optimistic :)
 
I actually gambled today. I played at Challenge Casino. They offer a series of deposit bonuses -- 25%, then 50%, then 100%. I've stayed away from the Casino Profit Share group because they force you to play through a 100xB FR wagering before cashing out. Unlike typically Clearplays, you cannot cash out early after a win.

I suddently played now because of affiliate payments. One cool thing about having an affiliate site is getting affiliate payments on your own play. They offer an outstanding affiliate program with a $75 CPA bonus for person who deposits $50+.

My plan for play was to deposit the minimum on the first two and the maximum on the third. Unfortunately, it seems the max bonus is based your earlier deposits, so I only received a $20 bonus on the 3rd deposit, instead of the expected $50. My results were as follows:

1. Deposit $20, receive 25% bonus... bust.

2. Deposit $20, receive 50% bonus... build it up to $60. Attempt to complete wagering on FR... bust.

3. Depost $50, receive $20 bonus... build it up to $150. Meet playthrough on FR and cash out at $125.

So my net gain/loss at Challenge Casino was +$35 +$75 CPA = +$110

And some people wonder why even reputable casinos scream bonus abuse? This is a prime example. Furthermore, it's no wonder why some casino affiliate programs are hesitant to offer CPA deals. If I thought that aka23 was going to become a regular, loyal player at this casino, I wouldn't be so angry. However, this post rings of nothing more than grabbing the first three deposit bonuses PLUS the $75 CPA for his own play. :mad:
 
And some people wonder why even reputable casinos scream bonus abuse? This is a prime example. Furthermore, it's no wonder why some casino affiliate programs are hesitant to offer CPA deals. If I thought that aka23 was going to become a regular, loyal player at this casino, I wouldn't be so angry. However, this post rings of nothing more than grabbing the first three deposit bonuses PLUS the $75 CPA for his own play. :mad:
There is another important reason for this play that I did not mention. Some affiliates have not recorded any of my clicks, like Powerbet. And I believe some affliates are not properly recording my signups like 888.com, the Belle Rock group, and Intercasino/VIP. To see that my click and signup is properly recorded gives me confidence that my clicks will be recorded after I add the new (for me) casino to the site. I am going to include Challenge on my site and review it according to my experiences like any other.

If I am in violation of the rules, I will almost certainly not receive the CPA credit. And if I had an exceptional experience, I would periodically play there without bonuses, like any other new player. I do continue to play periodically without bounses at King Neptune's.
 
UPDATE: REVERSAL OF FORTUNE LOUNGE

I reversed the $5000 Desert Dollar withdrawal and turned it into $8500. I also placed my first ever $1000 bet tonight (and won it). That's really quite something for a low roller. It was actually a $500 bet, but I was dealt an 8 and a 3 so I doubled to $1000 and was happy to see that 10 come in! :thumbsup: That was on that High Limit European Blackjack which is only available in the Flash version at this particular casino.

Total pending withdrawals........... $22,000
Total profit for the year.............. $17,300
The look on my face right now..... Priceless :D

Okay, now I need to get to bed because I have to drive 6 hours tomorrow.

Wow! That is incredible! In under 1 week, you made almost as much as I have since I started gambling on Memorial Day.

DON'T REVERSE ANY MORE OF YOUR WITHDRAWLS. Cash out and spend your winnings. Congratulations!
 
Hi All,

As per our terms and conditions, this is in direct breach of our CPA and General Remuneration terms at Casino Profit Share and as such, this affiliate/player will not be paid the earnings.

Unfortunately, players/affiliates who take advantage of our CPA deals and bonus offers at the casinos, do make it difficult for us to keep offering great affiliate incentives to genuine affiliates and this type of earning behaviour will not be accepted nor tolerated within our group.

Thank you Aka for explaining how this was done, we'll be sure to keep an eye out so that we can avoid this kind of thing in the future.

All the best.

Trish
Affiliate Manager
Casino Profit Share.

I actually gambled today. I played at Challenge Casino. They offer a series of deposit bonuses -- 25%, then 50%, then 100%. I've stayed away from the Casino Profit Share group because they force you to play through a 100xB FR wagering before cashing out. Unlike typically Clearplays, you cannot cash out early after a win.

I suddently played now because of affiliate payments. One cool thing about having an affiliate site is getting affiliate payments on your own play. They offer an outstanding affiliate program with a $75 CPA bonus for person who deposits $50+.

My plan for play was to deposit the minimum on the first two and the maximum on the third. Unfortunately, it seems the max bonus is based your earlier deposits, so I only received a $20 bonus on the 3rd deposit, instead of the expected $50. My results were as follows:

1. Deposit $20, receive 25% bonus... bust.

2. Deposit $20, receive 50% bonus... build it up to $60. Attempt to complete wagering on FR... bust.

3. Depost $50, receive $20 bonus... build it up to $150. Meet playthrough on FR and cash out at $125.

So my net gain/loss at Challenge Casino was +$35 +$75 CPA = +$110
 
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............................ooooopps!..............Me thinks AKA, you doth sayith too much?...............................................This is a good reminder that Casinos read these forums also..I cant say I blame em for this one.................sorry
 
Hi All,

As per our terms and conditions, this is in direct breach of our CPA and General Remuneration terms at Casino Profit Share and as such, this affiliate/player will not be paid the earnings.

Unfortunately, players/affiliates who take advantage of our CPA deals and bonus offers at the casinos, do make it difficult for us to keep offering great affiliate incentives to genuine affiliates and this type of earning behaviour will not be accepted nor tolerated within our group.

Thank you Aka for explaining how this was done, we'll be sure to keep an eye out so that we can avoid this kind of thing in the future.

All the best.

Trish
Affiliate Manager
Casino Profit Share.

Section 10.0 in the General Renumeration of the T&C states:

"10.0. While we accept that an affiliate may test/play occasionally using their personal casino account and in turn earn revenue with their affiliate account, we do not encourage the continued earning of a commission which is solely based off the revenue generated by the affiliate's personal casino play. This is considered insuring against losses and affiliates taking advantage of this will have their personal casino accounts removed from their affiliate earnings reports."

As stated above, my play falls into the "may test/play occasionally using their personal casino account and in turn earn revenue with their affiliate account." I listed the reasons for this test play earlier. It seems clear to me than I am not violating the rule stated above, as I am not "earning of a commission which is solely based off the revenue generated by the affiliate's personal casino play." Nevertheless, if you are calling this a violation, then it won't happen again.

Regards
 
I am all for bonuses..infact my site is based around them, and i will always be on the players side when i see posts here about casino's not adhering to their own Terms and Conditions.
But what you have done is just plain wrong!
As a new affiliate i have recently been looking at lots of affiliate schemes, and i havent come across one that will pay out on the affiliates play.
I find it hard to believe as someone who is promoting bonus hunting, and who supposedly should have a good grasp of T&Cs that you failed to realise this.
As the affiliate manager stated, behaviour like this just makes it harder for us struggling new affiliates, who could do with a couple of CPA deals to help at the beginning.

WAYLANDER
 
As a new affiliate i have recently been looking at lots of affiliate schemes, and i havent come across one that will pay out on the affiliates play.
I find it hard to believe as someone who is promoting bonus hunting, and who supposedly should have a good grasp of T&Cs that you failed to realise this.
Did you read my quote from the T&C above? According to the T&C, this group permits "test/play occasionally using their personal casino account and in turn earn revenue with their affiliate account", so long as the affiliate does not continue "earning of a commission which is solely based off the revenue generated by the affiliate's personal casino play."
 
I would read that rule as you could occasionally play at the casino to test new games/links etc.
I admit it surprises me they will pay out on even that play as all the others i have looked at dont ( i havent looked at this program yet )
But i certainly wouldnt interpret that as a reason to claim the CPA
Seriously.. if they pay out $75 CPA on a $50 deposit to their own affiliates then it would pay every player who was gonna sign up to become an affiliate 1st, once word got around they would be the most heavily affiliated site on the net!

WAYLANDER
 
I would read that rule as you could occasionally play at the casino to test new games/links etc.
I admit it surprises me they will pay out on even that play as all the others i have looked at dont ( i havent looked at this program yet )
But i certainly wouldnt interpret that as a reason to claim the CPA
Seriously.. if they pay out $75 CPA on a $50 deposit to their own affiliates then it would pay every player who was gonna sign up to become an affiliate 1st, once word got around they would be the most heavily affiliated site on the net!

WAYLANDER
The rule states "may test/play occasionally." If there is ever a time to test a casino, it is when you have never played there. How can I recommend a casino on my site, if I have not played there? While playing the bonus, I learned a lot of important information that I will list on the site, such as being credited the 3rd deposit bonus based on my mimumum deposit among the first three. Another good reason for test play is to confirm that affiliate signups are recorded as expected. Also note that I deposited $90, more than the value of the CPA; and I came within 1 bet of losing all $90.

$75 CPA is certainly not the highest. There are some websites that pay out $75 to players for signing up through certain links, as their affiliate CPA is well over $75. Note that giving players sign-up kickbacks clearly violates the T&C at Casino Profit Share, as well as most others.
 
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From the Casino Profit Share CPA terms:

CPS said:
9.13.(a) If, as determined by our fraud department, the majority of your referrals are:

* promotion abusers (players who only play for a small amount of bets and then cash out with all or part of the promotional bonus either within or outside of the promotional rules) or,

CPS said:
9.15. An affiliate may not abuse the CPA program in an attempt to insure their losses against casino play/opportunistic bonus play. We reserve the right to revert an affiliate's CPA earnings to Revenue Share or suspend the affiliate account in whole where this is seen to have taken place.

You are in breach of both of those, and posting about your actions publically was bizarely stupid.

I hope that CPS suspends your entire account and does not just revert you to Revenue Share. Fraudulent affiliates are a blight in an already highly troubled market.
 
The rule states "may test/play occasionally." If there is ever a time to test a casino, it is when you have never played there. How can I recommend a casino on my site, if I have not played there? Another good reason for test play is to confirm that affiliate signups are recorded as expected. Also note that I deposited $90, more than the value of the CPA; and I came within 1 bet of losing all $90.


Sign up through another link like the rest of us.

If you are that concerned, a " guest " account would of done the same job.

In your mind you came within 1 bet of losing $15 !

Even if you felt the need to absolutely have an account their through your own link, why claim the CPA.... did it not strike you as wrong?

WAYLANDER
 

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