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Gambling companies checking houses prices???.
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Hi Everyone,
Thanks for the tag @Supababe.
Just to put the OP’s theory to bed, I can categorically say that we don’t use house prices to determine what offers you are given.
I can confirm however, as others have suggested, that we will offer players who have been verified to different levels different promotions.
I would suggest it’s one of two things if you believe the offers have changed. 1) Pure coincidence, 2) You’ve reached a level we’ve had to do enhanced checks on you and the promotions category has changed.
Regards
Mark
Thanks for the tag @Supababe.
Just to put the OP’s theory to bed, I can categorically say that we don’t use house prices to determine what offers you are given.
I can confirm however, as others have suggested, that we will offer players who have been verified to different levels different promotions.
I would suggest it’s one of two things if you believe the offers have changed. 1) Pure coincidence, 2) You’ve reached a level we’ve had to do enhanced checks on you and the promotions category has changed.
Regards
Mark
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You don't like all these offers of free bets. Close the damned account then and you won't get them. Simple is it not. Have a good day.
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Mark- no free bets on my account or free credit . After I changed my address and you verified it in 48 max I started receiving endless emails of promotions and when I went live chat I got free bets. I also got emails from your other casino foxy palace that I never signed up too???. Do you pass on customer information??.
Thanks for advice on joining game stop. I don't really need to gamble. So I self exclude with them should take 24 hours to go through. I did try and self exclude on 32red but the process is annoying you have to fill out a form. It doesn't have permanent self exclusion either.
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I can answer that question confidently on behalf of ALL accredited casinos here.
NO!
Only way this could POSSIBLY happen would be if you signed up thru an affiliate when first joining, although that would be extremely unlikely if you used Casinomeister and its members also.
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You keep mentioning live chat kept offering you free credit. I assume you mean deposit bonus matches or free spins.
I can only assume also that you were ASKING for them as from experience I have never been on live chat to solve a problem when they suddenly out of the blue say while your here have a deposit bonus.
I can only assume also that you were ASKING for them as from experience I have never been on live chat to solve a problem when they suddenly out of the blue say while your here have a deposit bonus.
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How much were the 20 and 50 FS worth? If it’s targeting high rollers then that looks a bit on the cheap side.
I get that from some casinos and I basically live in a bin.
I get that from some casinos and I basically live in a bin.
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How long had you been playing online before you moved from the flat to the house?
University 3 years
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A soft search will show up any missed or late payment markers also any court orders/judgments and CIFS markers and credit usage which gives them an idea of the risk involved doing business with you.
The mortgage offer would have been in principle they then would have carried out a hard search and started digging.
Have a look on moneysaving expert forums.
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Okay so you say your deposits have always been the same. A rough idea would be helpful.
Are we talking £10, £50, £100, £500?
Are we talking £10, £50, £100, £500?
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Hi Winbigger,
We of course don’t pass on customer information outside of our company, however if you are verified and/or pass additional AML or SOW/SOF checks at one brand then that would apply to all brands that we operate.
I’m more than happy to look into this for you if you want to share your account details via PM. If nothing else I’m intrigued. I can still 100% assure you that an operator on live chat isn’t making the decision based on your address however.
Had you been asked for any additional documents before the promotions suddenly got better?
Mark
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So to summarise you moved back to one of your properties in London and u got bombarded with freebies which you didn't get before the move.
You have concluded that this was because you have moved to London?Onviously U didn't move without having a job
New job?
More money?
Bigger despoits?
More freebies from casinos?
Make sense?
Which is all irrelevant now as you have signed up to gamstop
If the casino did target you because change of address what difference does it really make as any of these bonuses could have went in your favour (then this thread wouldn't exist)
Another problem gambler thread with bells and whistles.
You have concluded that this was because you have moved to London?Onviously U didn't move without having a job
New job?
More money?
Bigger despoits?
More freebies from casinos?
Make sense?
Which is all irrelevant now as you have signed up to gamstop
If the casino did target you because change of address what difference does it really make as any of these bonuses could have went in your favour (then this thread wouldn't exist)
Another problem gambler thread with bells and whistles.
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This.
slotmaster
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Not sure to be honest but here it does help you if you have a mortgage or pay rent, makes no sense as it's the biggest expense I know but credit reports and agencies make no sense and quite frankly are a scam. But ya just using that as an example of might what have happened, The checking house prices is lol and not happening.
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Very strange this poster is, sorry but I have to chime in. Harsh or not who cares........
So you are telling me you own some properties in London, You was a student? So let me guess that means you are pretty young. It also means you did not have a job, so that means those properties are not yours, or they are family properties. Or you are lying. Or you are using someone else's address of friends you met at university and they gave you the OK to use their address? Even if you did own those properties. Then sell them then stop asking for free money if you are rich already and have properties. Hence my below statement.................
Then you have the cheek to ask for free bets and free money from casinos? Do you even deposit your own money? Do you just look for free money to play with at online casinos and never deposit? Then I read someone said you have now also just recently used GamStop. Either-way - I am not falling for any of this nonsense, sorry to say.
Very strange this poster is, sorry but I have to chime in. Harsh or not who cares........
So you are telling me you own some properties in London, You was a student? So let me guess that means you are pretty young. It also means you did not have a job, so that means those properties are not yours, or they are family properties. Or you are lying. Or you are using someone else's address of friends you met at university and they gave you the OK to use their address? Even if you did own those properties. Then sell them then stop asking for free money if you are rich already and have properties. Hence my below statement.................
Then you have the cheek to ask for free bets and free money from casinos? Do you even deposit your own money? Do you just look for free money to play with at online casinos and never deposit? Then I read someone said you have now also just recently used GamStop. Either-way - I am not falling for any of this nonsense, sorry to say.
If you read the thread you would see that I received them in a trustfund. The rent for 3 houses in London is £90k before tax , if you even had a low paid job could receive 20k a year not including the overseas property rent that would around 110k to do as i please .I used my own money if I deposit and not recieve anything its should be OK to ask for a free bet. If they say no its OK.
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Please post a screenshot here. This is completely untrue there is no stipulation of a positive review for a free bet or bonus.
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If it is a UK licenced casino, it HAS to have permanent self-exclusion, so i believe
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I'm not commenting on the individual case here and 32 red, but it wouldn't surprise me if the average income level to postcode information wasn't used by some gambling firms in their marketing/promotional decisions. Say they have a
£100,000 monthly budget to attract more turnover/business it could be argued irresponsible to use it to target players from poor areas, and just on a pure business decision level they also have less available income to lose/gamble.
I think one of the concerns many had with the SOW process was that casinos would then know exactly how much 'disposable income' you had each month, so if that fear was believable why not also this postcode data possibly being a factor? [Not the deciding factor though]
This site does a similar thing in a general way
£100,000 monthly budget to attract more turnover/business it could be argued irresponsible to use it to target players from poor areas, and just on a pure business decision level they also have less available income to lose/gamble.
I think one of the concerns many had with the SOW process was that casinos would then know exactly how much 'disposable income' you had each month, so if that fear was believable why not also this postcode data possibly being a factor? [Not the deciding factor though]
This site does a similar thing in a general way
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This link is so interesting. Thank you for sharing.
I checked 2 postcodes of areas I know extremely well. Reading the ‘wealth and credit risk indicators’ they showed completely inaccurate info in many, many ways.
Eg... a street on a fairly new housing development located between a large hospital, a motorway junction and the council estate.
On the street live medical professionals, head teachers, accountants, teachers, shop owners etc.
I wonder how they would feel about this description of themselves...
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That's the thing in the uk, income and wealth can differ greatly street by street, the results on that site are too general and inaccurate and the accompanying descriptions are so judgemental/laughable and class based; however I then think to myself, sadly, it is probably realistic to how companies and the advertising industry, plus politics, see the UK and break it down and analyse it. There's no morality concern to them in doing this, it's just a cold 'calculating' analysis and business.
On top of this they can now break down social media use etc.. to analyse 'trends' and other factors further...
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To be fair, it doesn't need to be incredibly accurate, it would just need to be accurate enough that using it is more profitable than not using it. They could compare it against their existing playerbase to see how well it holds up, and if the correlation is high enough, use it to target certain newer players for some extra promotions, or higher limits, etc. It wouldn't have as much value for older players because their deposit and playing history would obviously be way more reliable.
Even if this tactic didn't really work, it could still be put in place as some executive's pet project to make it look like they are doing something useful. So not saying most casinos are doing this, but I would be very surprised if at least SOME casinos weren't doing these sorts of things, whether landbased or online.
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Well I dashed off to scour my inbox for my email. I even checked my spam box too. Not had any free spins for ages. But alas, no email for me. Perhaps I live in the wrong postcode area.
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so
to be clear
Mark is saying the trust pilot review thing is patently untrue
youre saying mark told you not to say anyything
i gather you have some sort of written correspondence to this effect?
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I thought he simply asked you to post a screen shot of said email, obviously what's written on trust pilot isn't necessary the issue. I had an offer from a company on amazon to leave a review and get a second product for free, but it didn't say the review had to be positive...
Edit: just to add when I was a complete newbie and hadn't heard of casinomeister I used to read trust pilot reviews of casinos a lot, they were 90% negative I'd say as people are more motivated to leave a review when there's been a problem.
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LOL. Hong Kong is the place with the most outrageous housing prices in the world and its common for prices per square foot to exceed USD 1500. t'is a pity many online casinos dont accept players from Hong Kong.
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No he didn't. He asked you to post a screenshot of the e mail you claim to have received regarding a free bet if you gave a positive review. Please dont play games. Mark has been here for years. He's trusted. Trust is earned. At present you need to earn our trust. So post the screen shot .
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Here's a copy of the email, for the record:
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Here's a copy of the email, for the record:
Honestly though giving rewards for a review at all seems a bit morally questionable to me. There will be people who give the review only for the spins, and will feel like it's in their self interest to give it a maximum score just in case.
So technically it's not bribing people for a strong review, but in practice it's not so clear.
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I appreciate your opinion and I see where you're coming from, but it's common practice across many industries. We want to encourage reviews of our service, the sad reality is nobody will be bothered if there's not an incentive.
Mark
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In my opinion, it's highly dubious when any company offers an incentive to review on trustpilot. To me, it would feel like I would have to give a positive review in order to be granted the 'reward'.
I'm sure from a psychological research perspective, companies will know this.
I'm sure from a psychological research perspective, companies will know this.
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I'll do anything for a tenner bonus, no make that 20, my services are high quality after all 
In all seriousness though, over many, many years of this slotting malarkey - Most if not all of the survey based emails I've had over the years from various companies have carried some sort of incentive to encourage me to complete them.
In all seriousness though, over many, many years of this slotting malarkey - Most if not all of the survey based emails I've had over the years from various companies have carried some sort of incentive to encourage me to complete them.
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I'll do anything for a tenner bonus, no make that 20, my services are high quality after all.
Even snog goatie??
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He didn't get all those votes on that Trada / BB Wolf thread for no reason you know
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As first of 9 voted his name, I feel so...He didn't get all those votes on that Trada / BB Wolf thread for no reason you know
...cheap
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