Explosions in Manchester

[paul7388]

So nothing then?

Didnt think so but keep laughing trust me the feeling is mutual

You are not even worth arguing with.

As already explained even when christians have murdered they do not run about shouting in the name of Jesus. So it would be damned hard to find an example.

I have strong views on muslims myself and immigration. One of main reasons i vote no to independence is because Sturgeons idea is to fill the country with even more immigrants to boost population if she gets it.

But no matter how strongly i feel about terrorism and muslim culture i am not blinkered enough to think they are the only race in the world causing havoc.

To actually sit there going on about Christians as if they are most peaceful religion in the world who does no wrong must be one of the most biased and sad statements i have ever read.

But better things to do than debate with someone so narrow minded . Have a lovely day

 

[paul7388]

Take it your a Celtic fan?..

Why would i be a celtic fan.

Far from it.

 

[paul7388]

Totally agree with you. Those radical Christian loonatics must be well hidden, granted there is issue to take with other religions of course , with the catholic religion especially within there churches and there peadophiloc priests, but thankfully that's been addressed now, and abhorrent as it was it wasn't terrorism.
Please as lockinlove states give us some examples of christians (England is a Christian country) where these crazy Christian radical loonatics have murdered children and women in cold blood reciting versus from the bible?..
you won't find any I'm afraid.

They do not quote versus from bibles.

Go back a few years and see the bombings from for example that murdered innocent woman and children in name of religion in UK and Ireland. Or does that not count. And with hostilities not far away and with chances of a closed border or united Ireland there is a good chance of trouble breaking out again. Or does that not count either.

 

[lockinlove]

You are not even worth arguing with.

As already explained even when christians have murdered they do not run about shouting in the name of Jesus. So it would be damned hard to find an example.

I have strong views on muslims myself and immigration. One of main reasons i vote no to independence is because Sturgeons idea is to fill the country with even more immigrants to boost population if she gets it.

But no matter how strongly i feel about terrorism and muslim culture i am not blinkered enough to think they are the only race in the world causing havoc.

To actually sit there going on about Christians as if they are most peaceful religion in the world who does no wrong must be one of the most biased and sad statements i have ever read.

But better things to do than debate with someone so narrow minded . Have a lovely day

So still nothing? Since you have followed this thread so closely, its full of me mentioning christian crimes and stating that probably 70% of muslims are peaceful. Yet your post states otherwise with wild accusations and trying to put words in my mouth.

I say the word lately and you quote the word centuries and decades.

You have a wonderful day yourself

 

[Jono777]

Meanwhile in other news........

 

[Playford7]

So still nothing? Since you have followed this thread so closely, its full of me mentioning christian crimes and stating that probably 70% of muslims are peaceful. Yet your post states otherwise with wild accusations and trying to put words in my mouth.

I say the word lately and you quote the word centuries and decades.

You have a wonderful day yourself

Meanwhile in other news........

Well casumo gave me a 70% match. I actually find that huge news.

 

[lockinlove]

Meanwhile in other news........

In other news you want to deposit and go play bonanza admit it

Well casumo gave me a 70% match. I actually find that huge news.

LOL

have fun and gl. Dont play the forbidden game :notworthy

 

[dionysus]

Probably closer to 99% and a few decimals but neither here nor there.

Let's perhaps agree on a few things:

Are the most recent attacks in memory from radical Islam? Yes.
Have Christians over the centuries perpetrated henous acts in the name of their religion? Yes.
Have most acts of terrorism in the EU in our generation been prepreprated by either Chistians or Muslims? No.
Is radical Islam a growing concern? Yes.
Are all acts of terrorism perpetrated by religious or separitist (or any) motivation heinous? Yes.

Maybe instead of debating whether Christian acts of terror or Islamic acts of terror are greater or worse, maybe we can all agree they're all pretty horrible.

ps I'm bummed the casinos I play at don't have BTG..now THAT'S a crime.

 

[lockinlove]

Probably closer to 99% and a few decimals but neither here nor there.

Let's perhaps agree on a few things:

Are the most recent attacks in memory from radical Islam? Yes.
Have Christians over the centuries perpetrated henous acts in the name of their religion? Yes.
Have most acts of terrorism in the EU in our generation been prepreprated by either Chistians or Muslims? No.
Is radical Islam a growing concern? Yes.
Are all acts of terrorism perpetrated by religious or separitist (or any) motivation heinous? Yes.

Maybe instead of debating whether Christian acts of terror or Islamic acts of terror are greater or worse, maybe we can all agree they're all pretty horrible.

ps I'm bummed the casinos I play at don't have BTG..now THAT'S a crime.

Id say 69% and maybe a few decimals.

But I can agree with myself that bonanza is at least horrible.


BTG isnt available for us at very many casino's at all for some weird reason. Maybe 1 or 2 that I know of.

 

[Playford7]

Probably closer to 99% and a few decimals but neither here nor there.

Let's perhaps agree on a few things:

Are the most recent attacks in memory from radical Islam? Yes.
Have Christians over the centuries perpetrated henous acts in the name of their religion? Yes.
Have most acts of terrorism in the EU in our generation been prepreprated by either Chistians or Muslims? No.
Is radical Islam a growing concern? Yes.
Are all acts of terrorism perpetrated by religious or separitist (or any) motivation heinous? Yes.

Maybe instead of debating whether Christian acts of terror or Islamic acts of terror are greater or worse, maybe we can all agree they're all pretty horrible.

ps I'm bummed the casinos I play at don't have BTG..now THAT'S a crime.

With due respect the Christian faith moves with the times. Islam is stuck in the Middle Ages. It has no place In a civilised society.
My uncle works in london, he's a civil engineer, he's been called to work on a Sunday evening to provide his expertise on the bridges and main roadways of London as they are discussing how to change our capitals landscape to help prevent Islamic terror attacks. By that I mean bollards, and barriers, also changing the structures of the city.
Now me for one as a proud Englishman find this disgusting, we have to change our city because of a religion again.... so I'm sorry if I take issue with Islam, it affects some people more than it does others.
And is I've said many times if we didn't have Islam in the uk the place would be a much better place to live.

 

[paul7388]

With due respect the Christian faith moves with the times. Islam is stuck in the Middle Ages. It has no place In a civilised society.
My uncle works in london, he's a civil engineer, he's been called to work on a Sunday evening to provide his expertise on the bridges and main roadways of London as they are discussing how to change our capitals landscape to help prevent Islamic terror attacks. By that I mean bollards, and barriers, also changing the structures of the city.
Now me for one as a proud Englishman find this disgusting, we have to change our city because of a religion again.... so I'm sorry if I take issue with Islam, it affects some people more than it does others.
And is I've said many times if we didn't have Islam in the uk the place would be a much better place to live.

To be honest in modern times no religion really has a place anymore. But thats just my view.

I know what you mean about being a proud englishman i am a proud scot and proud to be British.

Here lies the main problem tho. It is not new immigrants that are proposing the risk to this country. It is Radicalized muslims that have been born and bred in this country.

Would be so easy if they were not. But as there are millions of muslims now living in this country most of who were born here and are classed as as British as you and i it is a problem that will not go away and no matter how hard people try there is no way further atrocities will be stopped.

 

[Playford7]

To be honest in modern times no religion really has a place anymore. But thats just my view.

I know what you mean about being a proud englishman i am a proud scot and proud to be British.

Here lies the main problem tho. It is not new immigrants that are proposing the risk to this country. It is Radicalized muslims that have been born and bred in this country.

Would be so easy if they were not. But as there are millions of muslims now living in this country most of who were born here and are classed as as British as you and i it is a problem that will not go away and no matter how hard people try there is no way further atrocities will be stopped.

Absolutely. But immigration caused this, the parents of the attackers where immigrants at some point. From Islamic nations.
I've no problem with immigration, bring in people vetted to have skills, people who are known to integrate from there beliefs.
Not just anyone.
As I said before and this Is government fact..over 60% of Muslim women don't work, over 40% of Muslim males do not work, some prayer upto 5 times a day, what employer wants a employee like that? I certainly wouldn't, imagine the man hours lost.
Oh also it costs the country over 8 billion a year in lost revenue.
Polish people, for example. Lovely charming people who want to integrate, they are hard working and do the jobs others won't do, immigration can work, but Islamic integration won't ever work.
Europe is standing testimony to that.

 

[dunover]

Well one thing that i've noticed when a terror attack happens.

Far Right: pls, let the terrorists be muslims.

Far Left: pls, let it be anyone but a muslim.

If its a muslim far right is like "yey we won!" and vice versa if left "win" ...I doubt these groups care about victims.

Does this 'vice versa' ever seem to happen?

 

[geordiecolin]

Well bless Ariana Grande

 

[goatwack]

Ugh, just caught a glimpse of that servile crowd at the Manchester concert, the artists shouting 'love' over and over at the not-terribly-bothered-at-recent-tragedies children in the crowd, not to mention the sight of a POLICEMAN holding hands with some kids and skipping in a circle. Yup.

There's was the usual gaggle of divs making heart-shapes with their hands. That's alright then, we've overcome it! Back to Instagram!

On the plus side, I did catch Justin Bieber

 

[paul7388]

Do not normally watch concerts on tv very often.

But made the exception tonight.

Thank you Ariana Grande and everyone that took part in a lovely tribute to the victims of the Manchester bombing.

Took a lot of guts for her to organize it and get back up on a stage in Manchester so soon.

 

[Playford7]

Well bless Ariana Grande

Lovely 'gesture'
If it was my child, I'd not want a penny, I'd Camp outside Downing Street till the day I died until something was done. Fiscal offerings would mean nothing to me, it wouldn't bring back my most loved thing in the world.
Id rather change and prevention happen, at least id know that the loss wasn't in vein.

 

[geordiecolin]

Do not normally watch concerts on tv very often.

But made the exception tonight.

Thank you Ariana Grande and everyone that took part in a lovely tribute to the victims of the Manchester bombing.

Took a lot of guts for her to organize it and get back up on a stage in Manchester so soon.

Shes only 23 and to deal with it all and pull that off must have taken a lot to do. And actually I thought that Bieber was pretty good.

 

[geordiecolin]

Lovely 'gesture'
If it was my child, I'd not want a penny, I'd Camp outside Downing Street till the day I died until something was done. Fiscal offerings would mean nothing to me, it wouldn't bring back my most loved thing in the world.
Id rather change and prevention happen, at least id know that the loss wasn't in vein.

Surely there is room for doing whatever you feel is right. If that includes attending a concert then why not? Ariana Grande had every right to put on the concert.
Why be so cynical about it?

 

[Playford7]

Surely there is room for doing whatever you feel is right. If that includes attending a concert then why not? Ariana Grande had every right to put on the concert.
Why be so cynical about it?

Oh Colin, by all means do what you feel is right, I'm in no way saying those that attended didn't do this for the right reasons.
110% it's a great show of solidarity. And strength of Great Britain.
And yes kudos to the kid, she's only 23 and showed strength coming back, I can't imagine how she felt, she's a human like the rest of us.
The post your commenting on I didn't mean to demean the concert, not one bit mate.
I just wish and hope the country and Those in power do something meaningful to address this, concerts like this are the only way the uk seems to deal with the problem we have, I'd rather closed borders and detaining of suspects, assessment of 'mosques' and less politically correct bullshit.
By no means am I taking away the value of that concert tonight, and as a man and a father i salute those that had the will, strength and courage to attend.

 

[goatwack]

Surely there is room for doing whatever you feel is right. If that includes attending a concert then why not? Ariana Grande had every right to put on the concert.
Why be so cynical about it?

I disagree on that one Colin. I feel that the concert took place way too soon in the recent aftermath of the Manchester bombings and recent upheaval in London. Putting on a front is one thing but I feel it's been brushed under the carpet.

I also doubt that she did this out of love or solidarity for the people of Manchester, nor do I think she was ever in danger at the original concert. It was a chance for some sycophantic backslapping and profile- raising for all artists concerned, who even appeared more concerned for their mate Ariana on social media. That was at the forefront of their thoughts, not the victims.

She's no angel either. It wasn't that long ago that she was quoted as saying she wished her fans would 'f*cking die'. Yet she is revered as Mother Teresa and held up as some sort of role model to many of her sub-10 year old fans in attendance.

The whole event was a distraction and a sham.

 

[geordiecolin]

Oh Colin, by all means do what you feel is right, I'm in no way saying those that attended didn't do this for the right reasons.
110% it's a great show of solidarity. And strength of Great Britain.
And yes kudos to the kid, she's only 23 and showed strength coming back, I can't imagine how she felt, she's a human like the rest of us.
The post your commenting on I didn't mean to demean the concert, not one bit mate.
I just wish and hope the country and Those in power do something meaningful to address this, concerts like this are the only way the uk seems to deal with the problem we have, I'd rather closed borders and detaining of suspects, assessment of 'mosques' and less politically correct bullshit.
By no means am I taking away the value of that concert tonight, and as a man and a father i salute those that had the will, strength and courage to attend.

I do believe that it is successive government policies that have lead to the position we are in now. I don't blame anyone coming here to seek a better life and that is what these governments encouraged. Greed by the elite basically. Keep the economy growing by increasing the workforce. They had no care for the working person who had to suffer no wage increase for 15-20 years because those coming in kept professional workers wages down.
We have been consistently lied to about their efforts and plans to deal with immigration because economy is one of the main points that keep them in power.
One other thing that I have noticed over the years. Political parties used to set their manifest's for the long term good of the Country. I think that starting with Thatcher all parties in power have only been interested in short term policies that will get them back in power at the next election at the expense of the long term good.

 

[Playford7]

I do believe that it is successive government policies that have lead to the position we are in now. I don't blame anyone coming here to seek a better life and that is what these governments encouraged. Greed by the elite basically. Keep the economy growing by increasing the workforce. They had no care for the working person who had to suffer no wage increase for 15-20 years because those coming in kept professional workers wages down.
We have been consistently lied to about their efforts and plans to deal with immigration because economy is one of the main points that keep them in power.
One other thing that I have noticed over the years. Political parties used to set their manifest's for the long term good of the Country. I think that starting with Thatcher all parties in power have only been interested in short term policies that will get them back in power at the next election at the expense of the long term good.

Thatcher is the finest prime minister since Churchill.
Anyway have you looked at that email I sent you yet mate!!!. Lol

 

[geordiecolin]

Thatcher is the finest prime minister since Churchill.
Anyway have you looked at that email I sent you yet mate!!!. Lol

Would that Email be the one I just received from Summer Venus telling me that I am the man she has been seeking all of her life and that I should check out her choicest pics?

 

[Playford7]

Would that Email be the one I just received from Summer Venus telling me that I am the man she has been seeking all of her life and that I should check out her choicest pics?

Haha!..
No, sadly mate!.
The original issue I sent.