Evolution Live Roulette - the most awesome thread of conspiracy theorists

[kelapa]

Hey, Kelapa, you seem like an intelligent guy, you're Dutch right? Which means you're intelligent, generally speaking.

Instead of getting all wound up over this, waarom ga je niet de situatie omdraaien tot je eigen voorsprong? Make small bets on the numbers which trend-wise shouldn't be hitting, in other words, the sort of bets that experienced roulette players would NOT make, based on the trend.

You could have, inadvertently, discovered the 'holy grail' my friend!

I have just about enough brain cells to qualify as a programmer.

Trends are tricky things.
When it comes to roulette, the numbers themselves are meaningless. It's just 37 slots on a wheel. The trick is to see if there's any degree of regularity in where the ball lands. Some dealers have a remarkably steady throw, which occasionally results in the ball landing about twelve spots further up the wheel with every spin.
That's the reason why you see two specific numbers following each other up sometimes (the 4 after the 9, for example). The patterns aren't always there, and they're not always the same, but if you think fast, then they're very profitable indeed.

edit: This very moment, I'm seeing this happen on Evolution's table.
These numbers have dropped: 13 16 9 28 4 6
Look up their positions on the wheel and you can see that each successive number is roughly the same distance further clockwise.

NOTE: For some reason, the zero area and the 23 area often get skipped. After the 28 dropped, I predicted 21+neighbours, and I was right (4 is right by 21's side). Then I predicted 6+neighbours. Nailed it.

So if you're looking for a grail, this is the closest I can get you...

 

[ed skull murphy]

I have just about enough brain cells to qualify as a programmer.

Trends are tricky things.
When it comes to roulette, the numbers themselves are meaningless. It's just 37 slots on a wheel. The trick is to see if there's any degree of regularity in where the ball lands. Some dealers have a remarkably steady throw, which occasionally results in the ball landing about twelve spots further up the wheel with every spin.
That's the reason why you see two specific numbers following each other up sometimes (the 4 after the 9, for example). The patterns aren't always there, and they're not always the same, but if you think fast, then they're very profitable indeed.

edit: This very moment, I'm seeing this happen on Evolution's table.
These numbers have dropped: 13 16 9 28 4 6
Look up their positions on the wheel and you can see that each successive number is roughly the same distance further clockwise.

NOTE: For some reason, the zero area and the 23 area often get skipped. After the 28 dropped, I predicted 21+neighbours, and I was right (4 is right by 21's side). Then I predicted 6+neighbours. Nailed it.

So if you're looking for a grail, this is the closest I can get you...

Trends are certainly tricky on Evo, for some reason, perhaps it's the way they train their dealers.

I just cashed out £1000+ from Poker Stars on a £300 deposit, mostly played on Dragonara but also the Turkish table. I was playing via the download software (on a Mac, which is unusual), rather than the browser interface and there was not a glitch to be seen.

Quite impressed with Poker Stars, the only drawback is the lack of a live chat facility or telephone service. You can only fire off an email and wait.

 

[kelapa]

I just cashed out £1000+ from Poker Stars on a £300 deposit, mostly played on Dragonara but also the Turkish table. I was playing via the download software (on a Mac, which is unusual), rather than the browser interface and there was not a glitch to be seen.

Hmm, where do you download that? I play on Windows, btw.


Still the same crap at Evo here, btw.
70 spins (each 50% - 65% chance to win)... only 6 wins.
Ball endlessly jumps out of the winning area and into the nearest unchipped neighbour. Same old, same old.

I was this close to a HUGE win though. I was finishing placing my bets, and I decided to just dump the full 5 euros on number 17 (I never do this).
EXACTLY when I click, a window pops up and gets in the way, blocking my bet. When I click it away, it's too late and the balls falls on 17.
Yes, I must be the luckiest person in this shitty universe.

 

[ed skull murphy]

Hmm, where do you download that? I play on Windows, btw.

Top right hand corner of the Poker Stars site.

I was this close to a HUGE win though. I was finishing placing my bets, and I decided to just dump the full 5 euros on number 17 (I never do this).
EXACTLY when I click, a window pops up and gets in the way, blocking my bet. When I click it away, it's too late and the balls falls on 17.

I know that feeling well, but it is always worth having a bet when you get that gut feeling for a particular number or sector. In fact, the less numbers you cover, the more chance you have of getting ahead, because you have less exposure to the house edge.

Some of my biggest and quickest wins have been had from betting only on a single number straight up, but it takes a certain spiritual inspiration to get it right. Personally, I find the Netent platform best for this kind of betting.

 

[kelapa]

Top right hand corner of the Poker Stars site.

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Ah, but that's poker only, isn't it? I don't even know how to play that (though it's always looked pretty cool; I should learn).

I know that feeling well, but it is always worth having a bet when you get that gut feeling for a particular number or sector. In fact, the less numbers you cover, the more chance you have of getting ahead, because you have less exposure to the house edge.

Some of my biggest and quickest wins have been had from betting only on a single number straight up, but it takes a certain spiritual inspiration to get it right. Personally, I find the Netent platform best for this kind of betting.

I prefer to play it safe... but then again, what does "safe" even mean if you can't win a single spin with 70% odds in your favour?

 

[alexking12k]

Hmm, where do you download that? I play on Windows, btw.


Still the same crap at Evo here, btw.
70 spins (each 50% - 65% chance to win)... only 6 wins.
Ball endlessly jumps out of the winning area and into the nearest unchipped neighbour. Same old, same old.

I was this close to a HUGE win though. I was finishing placing my bets, and I decided to just dump the full 5 euros on number 17 (I never do this).
EXACTLY when I click, a window pops up and gets in the way, blocking my bet. When I click it away, it's too late and the balls falls on 17.
Yes, I must be the luckiest person in this shitty universe.

I honestly don't understand why you continue to play there. You proved your point, Evo is most likely cheating. Why not play elsewhere? 5dimes has a live roulette table too. Why not give them a try?

 

[kelapa]

I honestly don't understand why you continue to play there. You proved your point, Evo is most likely cheating. Why not play elsewhere? 5dimes has a live roulette table too. Why not give them a try?

Hmm, 5dimes won't even let me let me deposit. "To deposit funds into your account using this payment method, please contact Customer Services."
Kinda ridiculous.

edit: Tried everything. I guess 5dimes just doesn't want my money.

 

[ed skull murphy]

Ah, but that's poker only, isn't it? I don't even know how to play that (though it's always looked pretty cool; I should learn).

They do live casino as well. Poker is an interesting game, but I don't have the right character to be successful in those shark-infested waters. Roulette is my game.

I prefer to play it safe... but then again, what does "safe" even mean if you can't win a single spin with 70% odds in your favour?

That is why they call it the 'Wheel of Satan', it has a nasty habit of biting you in the ass when you try to 'buy money' by backing heavy odds-on.

 

[kelapa]

That is why they call it the 'Wheel of Satan', it has a nasty habit of biting you in the ass when you try to 'buy money' by backing heavy odds-on.

Yeah, but the way I understood it, that's because people keep playing for too long, and they end up with a few more losses than wins... and the average net profit gets dragged down.

When playing 55% - 70% odds, you'd expect a normal variation between wins and loses, such as:
W L L W W L W L W W

Instead I only ever get:
L L L L L L L L L L

If it's indeed the Wheel of Satan, then Satan must own a few tidy mansions on Malta...

Evilution, more like.

 

[ed skull murphy]

Yeah, but the way I understood it, that's because people keep playing for too long, and they end up with a few more losses than wins... and the average net profit gets dragged down.

When playing 55% - 70% odds, you'd expect a normal variation between wins and loses, such as:
W L L W W L W L W W

Instead I only ever get:
L L L L L L L L L L

If it's indeed the Wheel of Satan, then Satan must own a few tidy mansions on Malta...

Evilution, more like.

Forget the maths, this game is more about the spiritual realm than just basic maths. The sooner you realise this, who knows? Some of those Ls might turn into Ws. Although I would recommend that you change platform if Evo is bugging you so much. Like i said, Netent is good for predicting a single number, in my experience, while low-stakes Playtech seems to work better for covering lots of numbers.

 

[alexking12k]

Hmm, 5dimes won't even let me let me deposit. "To deposit funds into your account using this payment method, please contact Customer Services."
Kinda ridiculous.

edit: Tried everything. I guess 5dimes just doesn't want my money.

Did you contact customer service?

 

[kelapa]

Did you contact customer service?

Yeah, I can only pay with bitcoin, so that place is a definite nope for me...

Guess I have to find another source of extra income.

 

[kelapa]

Two successive examples of Evolution's invisible forcefield.



Please pay close attention to which numbers are chipped. I always play with neighbours, making sure that large connected patches of the wheel are covered.

SPIN 1:
The ball is about to land right in my winning zone, starting with 3.
But alas, the ball is bounced back by... uhm.. an invisible wall?

SPIN 2:
Optimistic as I am, I try for that same winning area again. This time I decide to cover a few more numbers.
Unfortunately, the invisible wall is still right there. And it throws back the ball a little further. Just enough to jump OVER the additional numbers I covered and to make sure that I lose again.

This is not a fluke. This happens up to twenty times in a row.

Also note the chat. Lots of people calling them scammers and saying the wheel is rigged. Nobody wins anything.

NOTE: While I was playing, I noticed another person repeatedly betting on RED. It fell on BLACK eleven times in a row. The person gave up. Immediately, it started falling on RED. Person couldn't resist and tried again. Immediately, it's all BLACK again. Typical.

 

[kelapa]

And if the invisible shield won't do the job, then Evolution's magic jumping ball will.



Note how I basically predict every spin correctly, but the ball jumps away from the big wins "all by itself".

SPIN 1:
Lands on 18, which means profit for me.
The ball decides to go for a walk, past 22, 9, 31, 14, 20 and 1... until it finds 33 (loss).

SPIN 2:
For the next spin, I've estimated that the ball should drop somewhere around the number 9.
The ball indeed lands exactly there.
Then it freaks out completely and scrabbles its way back past a bunch of other winning numbers... until it reaches the 3 (loss).

SPIN 3:
The ball again threatens to land on the number 9, which again would mean profit for me.
It actually edges into its neighbour 31 at the last moment, but I guess whoever/whatever controls these jumps wanted to play it safe, so...
From a standing still position, the ball suddenly leaps five spots over to number 33 (loss). Have a look at this one. It's ridiculous.

SPIN 4:
Again, I bet on the same area.
The ball first lands on 12 (profit), then 7 (profit), then 18 (profit), then has to jump over a few BIG PROFIT numbers before it finally reaches the safety of number 16 (total loss).

SPIN 5:
Ball misses all the big wins, but seems to at least land on number 24 (tiny, tiny profit)...
NOPE. The ball takes another crazy leap and lands on 27 (total loss).

This was all recorded within the space of a few minutes. It's typical Evolution behaviour.
Again, note the angry people in the chat ("this casino is rigged asf", "scamming people", "rigged", "scammer").

If you're too bored to watch the whole video, at least have a look at 1:42

 

[ed skull murphy]

Yesterday I won £1250 from 4 casinos. Today I suffered a poor start (due to a sorry lack of discipline), but managed to claw back £950 in losses and ended the day up about £150. It's not that hard, mate, honestly.

I don't know what else to say, but I think you need to try a few of the other platforms.

 

[neilw]

And if the invisible shield won't do the job, then Evolution's magic jumping ball will.



Note how I basically predict every spin correctly, but the ball jumps away from the big wins "all by itself".

SPIN 1:
Lands on 18, which means profit for me.
The ball decides to go for a walk, past 22, 9, 31, 14, 20 and 1... until it finds 33 (loss).

SPIN 2:
For the next spin, I've estimated that the ball should drop somewhere around the number 9.
The ball indeed lands exactly there.
Then it freaks out completely and scrabbles its way back past a bunch of other winning numbers... until it reaches the 3 (loss).

SPIN 3:
The ball again threatens to land on the number 9, which again would mean profit for me.
It actually edges into its neighbour 31 at the last moment, but I guess whoever/whatever controls these jumps wanted to play it safe, so...
From a standing still position, the ball suddenly leaps five spots over to number 33 (loss). Have a look at this one. It's ridiculous.

SPIN 4:
Again, I bet on the same area.
The ball first lands on 12 (profit), then 7 (profit), then 18 (profit), then has to jump over a few BIG PROFIT numbers before it finally reaches the safety of number 16 (total loss).

SPIN 5:
Ball misses all the big wins, but seems to at least land on number 24 (tiny, tiny profit)...
NOPE. The ball takes another crazy leap and lands on 27 (total loss).

This was all recorded within the space of a few minutes. It's typical Evolution behaviour.
Again, note the angry people in the chat ("this casino is rigged asf", "scamming people", "rigged", "scammer").

If you're too bored to watch the whole video, at least have a look at 1:42

So lets look at this another way.

Spin 1 - You Won
Spin 2 - You Won
Spin 3 - You Won
Spin 4 - You Won
Spin 5 - You Won.

How, in anyone's world is that cheating?

 

[kelapa]

So lets look at this another way.

Spin 1 - You Won
Spin 2 - You Won
Spin 3 - You Won
Spin 4 - You Won
Spin 5 - You Won.

How, in anyone's world is that cheating?

I'm not sure what you mean?

 

[neilw]

I'm not sure what you mean?

Seriously.

It's time I ceased contributing to this thread.

I wish you the best of luck.

 

[kelapa]

Seriously.

It's time I ceased contributing to this thread.

I wish you the best of luck.

No, seriously, what do you mean I won?
Spell it out for me. I'm stuck in a perpetual Monday.

 

[neilw]

No, seriously, what do you mean I won?
Spell it out for me. I'm stuck in a perpetual Monday.

Each of those 5 spins in the last video you posted Won. You had chips on the winning numbers. None were losing spins.

You have been going on about how you can cover the board and the ball will find a number you haven't bet on.

That's not the reality i'm seeing watching the videos.

You'll probably answer that they weren't landing on numbers where you had the larger bets. If that's the case make them all the same.

The games and wheels have been designed so there is no Bias towards any particular sector or number, despite how you feel the ball will land.

You believe one thing and I believe something else., so there's no point in me continuing in this thread.

It's all complete bunkum.

 

[SpinUk]

The best way to discover the liklihood for cheating would be to get the financials for their roullete, this actually WOULD show cheating if it occurs as the numbers of games and revenue/payout over however many hundres of thousands of spins would smooth the rtp to a recognisable number. Any large deviation from this would show cheating. Getting that info however is a differant matter....

 

[kelapa]

Each of those 5 spins in the last video you posted Won. You had chips on the winning numbers. None were losing spins.

You have been going on about how you can cover the board and the ball will find a number you haven't bet on.

That's not the reality i'm seeing watching the videos.

You'll probably answer that they weren't landing on numbers where you had the larger bets. If that's the case make them all the same.

Spins 4 and 5 were total losses, as you should've seen.
The only time I was remotely lucky was with the third spin, when I broke even (apparently the best result one can hope for).

And yes, read my comments. The ball clearly settles on the predicted, big-winning numbers... then gets shooed away from them.
Chipping more numbers doesn't help either. The ball will simply move to another losing number. It's literally like playing whack-a-mole.

The games and wheels have been designed so there is no Bias towards any particular sector or number, despite how you feel the ball will land.

Yeah, I've heard the "because I say so" argument plenty of times from Evo themselves already. It's going to take a bit more than that..

 

[goatwack]

Those videos.....not an online Roulette connoisseur but I had to laugh at the bounce of the ball.

May as well have a string on the end of it, given its trajectory. Not to mention the popcorn-esque bouncing on show

 

[ed skull murphy]

Kelapa, perhaps Roulette is not the game for you.

Do you visit any of the very fine Holland Casino establishments? I'm a long time member, twenty odd years, I've been to half a dozen of them, but the Lido in Amsterdam is my favourite, Breda is quite classy too.

Do you get more predictable results from the roulette there?

 

[kelapa]

Kelapa, perhaps Roulette is not the game for you.

Do you visit any of the very fine Holland Casino establishments? I'm a long time member, twenty odd years, I've been to half a dozen of them, but the Lido in Amsterdam is my favourite, Breda is quite classy too.

Do you get more predictable results from the roulette there?

Roulette works fine for me, as long as it's played fairly. And that's not the case with Evolution.

I don't really have the time or desire to visit offline casinos. I've been looking around for other roulette providers on the net, but it's been pretty tricky so far to find one that works in Spain, accepts the right payment methods, and that isn't Evo.

 

[ed skull murphy]

Roulette works fine for me, as long as it's played fairly. And that's not the case with Evolution.

I don't really have the time or desire to visit offline casinos. I've been looking around for other roulette providers on the net, but it's been pretty tricky so far to find one that works in Spain, accepts the right payment methods, and that isn't Evo.

Betfair has a Spanish licence, I don't know about their live roulette because I cannot get into the Spanish site from the UK, but the UK betfair site has playtech live casino, with 10p minimum bets, across the board. I just won a £100 from them this morning.

In the UK you can deposit cash at their bank, they also do Paypal. It is certainly worth checking out, they are one of my preferred casinos.

There is also the option of using a vpn, but this is against most casinos' rules, and probably illegal in Spain.

 

[MaltesePlayer]

Betfair has a diff website only for Spanish users due to legislation

Use www.betfair.es to enter it. You won't be able to use your UK acc there.

 

[ed skull murphy]

Betfair has a diff website only for Spanish users due to legislation

Use www.betfair.es to enter it. You won't be able to use your UK acc there.

How is the situation in Malta? Is on-line gaming freely available to Maltese residents and tourists?

 

[MaltesePlayer]

How is the situation in Malta? Is on-line gaming freely available to Maltese residents and tourists?

Mostly yes. Obviously Tourists need to use their official address to register or otherwise they're screwed during the KYC process.

Maltese residents can't use online casinos till the age of 18 and B&M Casinos till 25

 

[ed skull murphy]

Mostly yes. Obviously Tourists need to use their official address to register or otherwise they're screwed during the KYC process.

Maltese residents can't use online casinos till the age of 18 and B&M Casinos till 25

That is good news, thanks!

 

[kelapa]

This, in a nutshell, is Evolution roulette without me playing:

5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1

*me puts chips on numbers 5 and 1, plus their neighbours for good measure*

29 15 36 23 4 22 26 7 25

*me gives up and takes the chips off the board*

5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1




And I'm not the only one. Evolution will happily prevent your winning number from dropping for 300 rounds straight. The moment you give up, it often falls multiple times in a row.


edit: ROFL. Right now, I'd just been putting chips on 4 19 15 32 0 26 3 35 12 for aaaages without even a single hit.
So I quit. These were the next numbers that showed up: 0 4 32 26 26.

I've seen hundreds of complaints about this particular "funny coincidence" on Evolution. Blocking numbers seems to be their favourite strategy alright.

 

[ed skull murphy]

This is Evolution roulette without me playing:

5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1

*me puts chips on numbers 5 and 1, plus their neighbours for good measure*

29 15 36 23 4 22 26 7 25

*me gives up and takes the chips off the board*

5 1 5 1 5 1 5 1




And I'm not the only one. Evolution will happily prevent your winning number from dropping for 300 rounds straight. The moment you give up, it often falls multiple times in a row.


edit: ROFL. Right now, I'd just been putting chips on 4 19 15 32 0 26 3 35 12 for aaaages without even a single hit.
So I quit. These were the next numbers that showed up: 0 4 32 26 26.

I've seen hundreds of complaints about this particular "funny coincidence" on Evolution. Blocking numbers seems to be their favourite strategy alright.

Which casino are you playing at? Is it possible that they are a cowboy outfit that may be using doctored software?

The reason I ask is that your luck seems to be permanently out, and even by Evo's standards, that's a rather poor show.

They might be playing you a pre-recorded video compilation based on your bets.

 

[kelapa]

Which casino are you playing at? Is it possible that they are a cowboy outfit that may be using doctored software?

The reason I ask is that your luck seems to be permanently out, and even by Evo's standards, that's a rather poor show.

They might be playing you a pre-recorded video compilation based on your bets.

I'm afraid it's the usual: Evolution's live roulette at Unibet.

These results happen constantly. It's very.. creepy. Every round just leaves you wide-eyed and shaking your head in disbelief.

Right now, I'm only watching without putting money on the table. Tried to predict nine rounds so far, got seven of them right.
If I had played for real (with money), I would have lost them all. Evolution tables are rigged. This is a stone cold fact. If you have any doubts, you haven't played there.

 

[ed skull murphy]

I'm afraid it's the usual: Evolution's live roulette at Unibet.

These results happen constantly. It's very.. creepy. Every round just leaves you wide-eyed and shaking your head in disbelief.

Right now, I'm only watching without putting money on the table. Tried to predict nine rounds so far, got seven of them right.
If I had played for real (with money), I would have lost them all. Evolution tables are rigged. This is a stone cold fact. If you have any doubts, you haven't played there.

In the last 4 months, (Unibet history only goes back that far) I've deposited £1025 and withdrawn £880, although I'm sure my losses are larger than that. Unibet is not one of my favourites, I don't have a lot of luck there.

 

[ed skull murphy]

Hey Kelapa, if Unibet is your only option, then this is the best advice I can proffer, take it or leave it:

First, you have to get in the mood, roll a big fat spliff, put some decent tunes on the stereo, pour yourself a glass of wine and when you're ready to roll, log in to Uni, navigate to Dragonara or one of the Netent tables, have a good look at the numbers and patterns, and wait for divine inspiration, but don't try to buy money by covering 99% of the table... trust me bud, that never ends well.

 

[alexking12k]

Hey Kelapa, if Unibet is your only option, then this is the best advice I can proffer, take it or leave it:

First, you have to get in the mood, roll a big fat spliff, put some decent tunes on the stereo, a glass of wine and when you're ready to roll, log in to Uni, navigate to Dragonara or one of the Netent tables and wait for divine inspiration, but don't try to buy money by covering 99% of the table... trust me bud, that never ends well.

I gave up on trying to figure out why kelapa still plays there. He mentioned that his options are very limited but how can that be a reason to keep playing at a casino that he believes is rigged and where he keeps losing.

 

[kelapa]

Hey Kelapa, if Unibet is your only option, then this is the best advice I can proffer, take it or leave it:

First, you have to get in the mood, roll a big fat spliff, put some decent tunes on the stereo, pour yourself a glass of wine and when you're ready to roll, log in to Uni, navigate to Dragonara or one of the Netent tables, have a good look at the numbers and patterns, and wait for divine inspiration, but don't try to buy money by covering 99% of the table... trust me bud, that never ends well.

Hehe. All I need is a non-rigged table.

Usually I don't need to cover that many numbers anyway. I mostly did that to demonstrate that Evolution are scam artists.
It's also worrying that many people simply don't want to see it. I guess the idea that such a large company is fraudulent scares them.

 

[kelapa]

I gave up on trying to figure out why kelapa still plays there. He mentioned that his options are very limited but how can that be a reason to keep playing at a casino that he believes is rigged and where he keeps losing.

Mostly to gather evidence, which was requested of me.
Nobody can say I didn't supply it.

 

[ed skull murphy]

Hehe. All I need is a non-rigged table.

Usually I don't need to cover that many numbers anyway. I mostly did that to demonstrate that Evolution are scam artist.
It's also worrying that many people simply don't want to see it. I guess the idea that such a large company is fraudulent scares them.

I can see it, but I never play at that table anyway, never had any luck on that one.

 

[kelapa]

Literally just now, I had seven spins on the Dragonara table. Didn't win a single cent, no matter what I tried.
Out of curiosity, I placed a bet on EVEN + BLACK + 19-36. It fell on 0.

 

[ed skull murphy]

I think you need to find another game,

 

[kelapa]

I think you need to find another game,

Me and everyone else needs to find a non-fraudulent game host.
Preferably not run from Malta, which is notoriously under control of the maffia. Their entire economy is dependent on crime.

 

[liberec]

Try Authentic Roulette from Batumi / Georgia. Its a land based Casino and there
no Magnet/metallic sound or something unrealistic ball movement.

You can find it at Unibet under Authentic Roulette -> Turbo
everything fair !!

 

[kelapa]

Try Authentic Roulette from Batumi / Georgia. Its a land based Casino and there
no Magnet/metallic sound or something unrealistic ball movement.

You can find it at Unibet under Authentic Roulette -> Turbo
everything fair !!

Ahh, pity the interface is almost unreadable... I can't even see my own bets.

But it does indeed look completely different from the Evolution tables. Thanks for the tip.

edit: Unfortunately, I couldn't win anything. After patiently playing it straight for a while, I ended up putting chips on almost the entire board. Even bet on 13-36 four times. Not a single win. And EVERY single spin, the ball manages to land ONE SPOT next to my winning numbers. It was like playing at Evolution again, tbh. Guess I really am that unlucky. At least the ball doesn't make weird jumps here.

edit 2: After wasting my 60 euros, I just spent 9 rounds predicting the spins (without money). Got 8 of them right. What is going on?

edit 3: An hour later, I tried again with another 30 euro deposit. Unbelievable. It's literally impossible to win a single cent here. I give up.
Five spins, each of them with a 75% win chance. All of them entirely lost. And each of these five spins, the ball manages to land EXACTLY next to my winning areas. Even if there's only six numbers unchipped, it always lands on one of those six.
Deperate, I placed a bet on RED + EVEN + 13-36. It landed on fucking 0.
Either I truly have absolutely ASTRONOMICAL, BEYOND GOD-LEVEL amounts of bad luck, or these people have a deal going with Evo. I give up. I have no words for this.

edit 4: Predicting without money again, using exactly the same system. 8 spins so far: 7 of them correct.
Sorry, but this place is just as corrupt as Evo. Never playing here again.

 

[bradztheman]

And if the invisible shield won't do the job, then Evolution's magic jumping ball will.



Note how I basically predict every spin correctly, but the ball jumps away from the big wins "all by itself".

SPIN 1:
Lands on 18, which means profit for me.
The ball decides to go for a walk, past 22, 9, 31, 14, 20 and 1... until it finds 33 (loss).

SPIN 2:
For the next spin, I've estimated that the ball should drop somewhere around the number 9.
The ball indeed lands exactly there.
Then it freaks out completely and scrabbles its way back past a bunch of other winning numbers... until it reaches the 3 (loss).

SPIN 3:
The ball again threatens to land on the number 9, which again would mean profit for me.
It actually edges into its neighbour 31 at the last moment, but I guess whoever/whatever controls these jumps wanted to play it safe, so...
From a standing still position, the ball suddenly leaps five spots over to number 33 (loss). Have a look at this one. It's ridiculous.

SPIN 4:
Again, I bet on the same area.
The ball first lands on 12 (profit), then 7 (profit), then 18 (profit), then has to jump over a few BIG PROFIT numbers before it finally reaches the safety of number 16 (total loss).

SPIN 5:
Ball misses all the big wins, but seems to at least land on number 24 (tiny, tiny profit)...
NOPE. The ball takes another crazy leap and lands on 27 (total loss).

This was all recorded within the space of a few minutes. It's typical Evolution behaviour.
Again, note the angry people in the chat ("this casino is rigged asf", "scamming people", "rigged", "scammer").

If you're too bored to watch the whole video, at least have a look at 1:42

Mate those ball jumps are INSANE!!!!!

I thought ive seen some funny things but this is a different league!! There is no way physics is the cause of this, this is air pressure, suction, or magnets. They should be shut down for this!!

I decided to play last night, but not on my normal 2 or 3 dozens, i did small sections instead, like Orphalins, only several numbers, i seemed to be doing really well, gor upto £200 from £15! I was winning silly amounts, from SMALL amounts. I could tel that it was fixed, from the way the ball was landing (like in your videos) but it was actually fixed in my favour!! Up until when i was at £200, i decided to do reds/blacks, and lost the lot. Just shows if you bet a small amount on small amount of numbers, you got a better chance as it scams the people who cover more of the board (in my opinion).

 

[ed skull murphy]

Mate those ball jumps are INSANE!!!!!

I thought ive seen some funny things but this is a different league!! There is no way physics is the cause of this, this is air pressure, suction, or magnets. They should be shut down for this!!

I decided to play last night, but not on my normal 2 or 3 dozens, i did small sections instead, like Orphalins, only several numbers, i seemed to be doing really well, gor upto £200 from £15! I was winning silly amounts, from SMALL amounts. I could tel that it was fixed, from the way the ball was landing (like in your videos) but it was actually fixed in my favour!! Up until when i was at £200, i decided to do reds/blacks, and lost the lot. Just shows if you bet a small amount on small amount of numbers, you got a better chance as it scams the people who cover more of the board (in my opinion).

Even money chances are a complete wind-up on any table at any casino, unless you are trying to play through a bonus at level stakes, in which case I stick to the same bet (same colour etc).

The only time I make a speculative bet on even money chances is when I see a trend of odd, even, odd, even.

 

[bradztheman]

Even money chances are a complete wind-up on any table at any casino, unless you are trying to play through a bonus at level stakes, in which case I stick to the same bet (same colour etc).

The only time I make a speculative bet on even money chances is when I see a trend of odd, even, odd, even.

You mean to beat wagering requirements? That could take some time, especially if its x10 or even x20 wagering. You just cant beat it.

 

[ed skull murphy]

You mean to beat wagering requirements? That could take some time, especially if its x10 or even x20 wagering. You just cant beat it.

I've done it many times, and I usually end up several tenners ahead. Sure, it's a waste of time, but if you are already a few hundred in front from betting small, usually a single number, it's worthwhile to clear the play-through.

 

[ed skull murphy]

You mean to beat wagering requirements? That could take some time, especially if its x10 or even x20 wagering. You just cant beat it.

The way this strategy came to me is somewhat embarrassing, but it was a valuable lesson learned. Although it should have been obvious to me from the start

I was once awarded a £2500 bonus from a Paddy Power Live Casino prize draw, with a 10x playthrough.

Betting fairly recklessly, I managed to push it up to £4k+, (with about £12k still left to playthrough), after an evening out, I returned and continued the same strategy, and blew the lot.

In hindsight, I should have played the remainder through by betting level £100s on the simple chances, which was allowed in the bonus terms because of the size of the original bonus, and I would have walked away with plus/minus four grand. How could I have been so stupid?

 

[bradztheman]

The way this strategy came to me is somewhat embarrassing, but it was a valuable lesson learned. Although it should have been obvious to me from the start

I was once awarded a £2500 bonus from a Paddy Power Live Casino prize draw, with a 10x playthrough.

Betting fairly recklessly, I managed to push it up to £4k+, (with about £12k still left to playthrough), after an evening out, I returned and continued the same strategy, and blew the lot.

In hindsight, I should have played the remainder through by betting level £100s on the simple chances, which was allowed in the bonus terms because of the size of the original bonus, and I would have walked away with plus/minus four grand. How could I have been so stupid?

You mean betting red and black at the same time was allowed for playthrough ?