End Of UK Bonuses? Wagering Reqs Banned!

I think people are not aware of how good this actually is.

I mean for us people who have already signed upto most casinos online and used pretty much all of the welcome offers available. We wont really see it unless we get ongoing promotions at the few casinos we seldom play at.

Like for example VS. They dont offer match bonuses as promotions. They do have a welcome offer but they do not give them out every week or month like others do.

Leovegas on the other hand seldom do match bonuses for their regular loyal players. They used to do them about once a week then they made them once every 2 weeks. Then once a month but now they seem to be happening like once every 3-6 months. Like I had one for the first time from them about 5 days ago ish. And before that must have been at least 5 months.

So yeah the only people that will see the benefit is the new players to the said casinos who enforce the new standards set out by the UKGC. I mean I just hope it wont mean the end of the match bonuses because I do like to take them on occasion when I get them, Or find a new casino with a nice one and not to steep wagering requirements or rules attached to them like max cashout etc etc. But I never ever deposit in those casinos with max cashout rules anyway as I find that as to roguish.

They should though take notice of Leovegas and Slotty Vegas bonus rule where you play with your real money first. And if you win with that you can then just withdraw. And in turn that then forfeits your bonus money.

This model is a good model and I always thought other casinos should follow suit, but they never did.

But either way it is going to be an interesting few months to see what casinos come up with now though :)
 
if it gives less play time I don't think it's a good thing as I enjoy playing for longer.
Don't get me wrong it's great if you win but I also enjoy the time spent wagering.
I wonder if it will cause problems along the way
 
Has 32red's dish of the day match already gone. I could only see some free spins and even then it doesn't say how many you get or how much you need to deposit.
 
Has 32red's dish of the day match already gone. I could only see some free spins and even then it doesn't say how many you get or how much you need to deposit.

Today's Dish of the Day is...
...Deposit for Free Games on Lost Vegas
Deposit between £20 and £49 for 20 Free Games
or
Deposit £50 or more for 50 Free Games
 
Am I the only one who enjoys real money tied in to wagering ? Sure its nice to play on real cash and withdraw if you get a huge win but most of the time if I get a moderate win I want tokeep playing but if it's real money I then feel bad if I lose it , Whereas if its tied into wagering I know I have to continue playing so theres no worries about whether I should stop and cashout :p I have longer and more enjoyable gambling sessions with the occasional big cashout if I complete wagering
 
Well.. slotsmagic will struggle with this then, they've gone soo downhill latelty anyway with their constant bonus updates. I received this around New Years.

"If you receive Free Spins in conjunction with a deposit offer or purchase Free Spins using your Real Money balance you must play the free spins before playing with your available funds (Real Money and Bonus Balance alike). Failure to comply with this may result in any winnings being removed."

In addition to these latest ones, note the 60x wagering!

"
  • Any winnings accrued playing Free Spins offers will be added to your account as a Bonus.
  • Unless stated otherwise in the promotion offer, Bonuses (including winnings from Free Spins) given with a deposit offer carry a wagering requirement of thirty (30) times the total amount, e.g. If you deposit €10 and obtain a €10 bonus, you would have to wager 30 times the aggregate amount, in this case being €20 (deposit + bonus). If a Bonus (including winnings from Free Spins) is not awarded as a part of a deposit offer Or if the total bonus amount (from bonuses and Free Spins winnings) is greater than the deposit amount made to claim the offer, the offer will carry a wagering requirement of sixty (60) times on the bonus amount only.
  • Standard wagering terms: bets placed in any game except Slots and Scratch games do not count towards the wagering requirements.
  • Mixed wagering: 10% of bets placed in non-Slots or Scratch games count towards your wagering requirements.
  • Special Mixed wagering: 50% of bets placed in non-Slots and Scratch games count towards your wagering requirements. Special Mixed wagering is only available on special occasions and to players of certain statuses. "
 
Good, maybe we will see some Casinos rewarding loyalty more rather than blowing the promo budget on sign ups.
 
This is good news if the casinos respond to it in a positive manner and not find new and more inventive ways of screwing the player. I do like bonuses but most of my deposits go to Videoslots. Bonuses have gotten far too complicated over the last few years. I do like the Betat, Vera John and Slotty deposit bonus structure and would like to see more casinos adopting this option. I don't like the extra spins deposit bonuses because for some reason I never win very much on those and some casinos have huge wrs attached to them so cashing them out is very difficult.

Anyway it will be interesting to see how it impacts the rest of Europe. I will say one thing though if bonuses do go away then many casinos will go out of business unless the step up their game with cashout times and player loyalty.
 
Bonuses needed simplifying for the longest time, thank God we're finally getting that. I've said a reboot is in order.....but as mentioned above, I fear casinos will find other, devious ways of catching the player out. So they don't use percentage bonuses but swap them with the equivalent value free spins and tie some terms around that somehow.

Casinos will always be that one step ahead of the UKGC because of the time it takes for them to respond. Casino T&Cs can be altered in mere minutes :cool:
 
I think this is a great move - especially given the appearance of no-bonus casinos...
Casinos can legally hide behind T'c and C's, but they are becoming so complex and convoluted that it's hard for people on here to follow who have years of experience, let alone new players who don't have a clue...
 
No hardship. Email from spin casino theres as been changed

Well it is good that some casinos are now starting to change their terms for UK players be it in a good way or bad way!

Did they give any details of what the new bonus structure will be for UK players?
 
nooooo what does that mean for places with really nice, tidy and clear bonus rules like ... slotsmagic?

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they only have 50 terms, well they have more because theres stuff like 45.1, 45.2 etc

its so simple and really easy to understand so im unsure why would ukgc be against it?!?


Ill post this bit you may understand it better than me.

........

In the name of liberty, we’re making some changes to our bonus system. We wanted to give you greater freedom in how use your bonus, and make the Spin Casino experience even better.

Without further ado, we’re pleased to introduce the new Freedom Bonus feature. Your balance will now be split into two parts – cash and bonuses.

The new display will mean you can now easily differentiate between your cash balance and bonus balance, giving you greater freedom over how you use each. We hope this will make your gaming experience more intuitive, more flexible and, ultimately, more fun.

The Freedom Bonus feature will be live on the Spin Casino website from 1st February. Make sure you look out for it.
 
Most will ignore this.
Some will go the betat/leovegas/slotsmillion route.
Some will go the bgo fairspins route.

That's how I see it.
 
Just got the heads up from Conor / at Trada that in the future for UK players they wont be able to offer bonuses with play though because of the changes coming.

Personally im not really phased by this. I would take a bonus if it was decent , but wouldnt go hunt for them. Majority of my degenerate addiction has been bonus free deposits.
 
Just got the heads up from Conor / at Trada that in the future for UK players they wont be able to offer bonuses with play though because of the changes coming.

Personally im not really phased by this. I would take a bonus if it was decent , but wouldnt go hunt for them. Majority of my degenerate addiction has been bonus free deposits.


It's really not a big issue for most. You'll still have bonuses but two balances, happens in about 50% of casinos now anyway, it'll mean the end of the 32Red match-style deposits which rip your cash and turn it into meaningless fun mode credits until wagering is met in full. It also won't affect 'terminal cash' bonuses like Sunbets and Midaur offer, whereby your real-cash play earns a wager-free cash amount eventually. It won't affect cash 'feed in' bonuses like Trada and Virgin etc. have/had whereby the money is fed in to your balance in say £2 cash instalments. All in all I think it's a positive move. Unless you're a huge Dish Of The Day fan.
 
Just got the heads up from Conor / at Trada ....

Hey guys,

The message itself wasn't meant for public view, as it is entirely speculative on my part for our VIP bonuses.
Absolutely no decision has been made with regards to bonuses yet at TradaCasino, we're waiting to see the lay the land.

Thanks,

Conor
 
Hey guys,

The message itself wasn't meant for public view, as it is entirely speculative on my part for our VIP bonuses.
Absolutely no decision has been made with regards to bonuses yet at TradaCasino, we're waiting to see the lay the land.

Thanks,

Conor

Hi Conor,

when you say lay of the land, how long do you think it will be until things settle and real changes are made? And I don't mean specifically to yourselves at Trada, but the industry in general? A very rough estimate would be greatly appreciated.
 
Hi Conor,

when you say lay of the land, how long do you think it will be until things settle and real changes are made? And I don't mean specifically to yourselves at Trada, but the industry in general? A very rough estimate would be greatly appreciated.

Hey Dutty,

These new guidelines were sprung on us at very short notice - so we still don't fully understand the implications.

I would imagine all needs to be changed by February 28th if what I'm reading is accurate. We are still trying to figure out where to go from here and waiting on more information. I would imagine signup bonuses will be a thing of the past for a start.

When we know more we'll be able to provide more detail,

Rachel.
 
Hey Dutty,

These new guidelines were sprung on us at very short notice - so we still don't fully understand the implications.

I would imagine all needs to be changed by February 28th if what I'm reading is accurate. We are still trying to figure out where to go from here and waiting on more information. I would imagine signup bonuses will be a thing of the past for a start.

When we know more we'll be able to provide more detail,

Rachel.


No, SUBs that tie real money into bonus wagering will be a thing of the past if I read things correctly.
 
Already had a few email from sites changing how there Bonuses work. It seems a lot are going down the road of play your cash, if you loss it and want the bonus then the wagering kicks in.. Seems a fair road to me.
 
No, SUBs that tie real money into bonus wagering will be a thing of the past if I read things correctly.

Yeah I would tend to agree with this view, I can't imagine sign up bonuses are going to disappear without a fight?

Already had a few email from sites changing how there Bonuses work. It seems a lot are going down the road of play your cash, if you loss it and want the bonus then the wagering kicks in.. Seems a fair road to me.

I'm assuming these are the sites with strong reputations to uphold, but for the others what would actually happen to them if they did nothing? Would their licenses become revoked? How long would that take?
 

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