End Of UK Bonuses? Wagering Reqs Banned!

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Thought here would be a good place to let UK players know that they can express their opinions about proposals here:

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It’s not often we get an input so perhaps you might want to take 10 mins to help shape the future of online gambling from the humble players’ points of view...
 

dunover

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No big deal - it'll just mean you'll effectively get bonuses which are played post-cash like the Nektan ones, or Bet-at and numerous others. Or they'll be like Midaur, Sunbets and Novibet whereby you earn the bonus in withdrawable cash as you play but don't get it 'front-loaded' which IMPO are the best and fairest ones.
 

KasinoKing

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Saw this on the Breakfast news today - what a complete load of bollocks...AGAIN! :mad:

The problem I have with it, is the word "unfair":
Is it unfair to ask players to turn over FREE money they have been given?
NO! It fricking isn't!
Jeeeeze :eek:

KK
 

Vibroverb

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It's not unfair to turnover free money, but it's the way it's communicated before any wagering requirement is done, or communicated. They have to communicate the whole thing, not just the part that's attractive for the players to attract them to deposit
 

Jono777

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No big deal - it'll just mean you'll effectively get bonuses which are played post-cash like the Nektan ones, or Bet-at and numerous others. Or they'll be like Midaur, Sunbets and Novibet whereby you earn the bonus in withdrawable cash as you play but don't get it 'front-loaded' which IMPO are the best and fairest ones.
Maybe so for those with deeper pockets but how about me and the zillions of other low budget, low rollers out there?

Bonus = extra play time (hopefully!), cash only = faster busts, loss of interest, loss of custom, makes no sense at all.

AYS, lets hope they go down the BetAt, Leo Vegas (even mention Caddell here) where the cash / bonus balance are kept apart until all cash has gone or can be w/d along the way and wagering basically applies when you're playing with THEIR money. Terms at these places are pretty straightforward so they wouldn't fall foul of that rule either.

Still total nonsense IMO, making out players are clueless!
 

dunover

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Maybe so for those with deeper pockets but how about me and the zillions of other low budget, low rollers out there?

Bonus = extra play time (hopefully!), cash only = faster busts, loss of interest, loss of custom, makes no sense at all.

AYS, lets hope they go down the BetAt, Leo Vegas (even mention Caddell here) where the cash / bonus balance are kept apart until all cash has gone or can be w/d along the way and wagering basically applies when you're playing with THEIR money. Terms at these places are pretty straightforward so they wouldn't fall foul of that rule either.

Still total nonsense IMO, making out players are clueless!

That's exactly what it's getting at - at NO stage will your real money deposit be tied into bonus funds, so bang goes 32Red's bonus system and any others which tie cash in to bonus wagering. It won't affect many bonus deals/casinos as you've said, just those which offer bonuses that turn your cash deposit into bonus funds too. About bloody time IMO.
 

dunover

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Saw this on the Breakfast news today - what a complete load of bollocks...AGAIN! :mad:

The problem I have with it, is the word "unfair":
Is it unfair to ask players to turn over FREE money they have been given?
NO! It fricking isn't!
Jeeeeze :eek:

KK

That's not what they're saying, you can still have bonuses but they mustn't commit real money funds to their wagering.
 

Jono777

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That's exactly what it's getting at - at NO stage will your real money deposit be tied into bonus funds, so bang goes 32Red's bonus system and any others which tie cash in to bonus wagering. It won't affect many bonus deals/casinos as you've said, just those which offer bonuses that turn your cash deposit into bonus funds too. About bloody time IMO.
Yeah, I'm with you now. More of a needless panic before I had a full understanding of the matter.

Now in total agreement. I use 32 Red's DOTD regular - I'm pretty sure they'll find an amicable alternative pretty easily.

As for EM sites (example among others) where the complete balance is turned into bonus money upon deposit and taking a bonus then I'm actually totally 'for' this move.

I'd also noticed over the past few months the slow decline of "xB" and steady increase of "xD+B", well up your kilt to those who started this player unfriendly move lol

Lets just hope anyone involved in the "transition" doesn't totally balls everything up along the way which we've seen once too often in other areas already :rolleyes:
 

dunover

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Yeah, I'm with you now. More of a needless panic before I had a full understanding of the matter.

Now in total agreement. I use 32 Red's DOTD regular - I'm pretty sure they'll find an amicable alternative pretty easily.

As for EM sites (example among others) where the complete balance is turned into bonus money upon deposit and taking a bonus then I'm actually totally 'for' this move.

I'd also noticed over the past few months the slow decline of "xB" and steady increase of "xD+B", well up your kilt to those who started this player unfriendly move lol

Lets just hope anyone involved in the "transition" doesn't totally balls everything up along the way which we've seen once too often in other areas already :rolleyes:

Any therein lies the reason - D+B means usually a separate cash/bonus balance.
 

Jono777

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Any therein lies the reason - D+B means usually a separate cash/bonus balance.
Maybe so but a good few appearing that this is not the case.

Few quick examples off top of my head lol, Guts went from D to D+B on some of their reloads - One balance tied in, also Fantasino (EM - 30 x D+B) think Trada also (25x D+B) Casumo partially as you can w/d only a portion of total balance depending on bonus %age taken.
 

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wait was this a ACTUAL rule to get paid???? Never knew this what a joke. I agree with all the rule changes even though i love a bonus. we all be better off in long run not having our cash tied down.
 

adamtheaddict

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Written Into a fair few terms at casinos and bingo sites that nutnut.
'By playing a at our casino, should the player win a progressive jackpot he or she agrees to allow us to publish his win, including his name and an ugly mug shot of him holding up a stupid cheque that is bigger than he is, should we choose to do so'
 
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