End Of UK Bonuses? Wagering Reqs Banned!

Valhalla

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That's exactly what it's getting at - at NO stage will your real money deposit be tied into bonus funds, so bang goes 32Red's bonus system and any others which tie cash in to bonus wagering. It won't affect many bonus deals/casinos as you've said, just those which offer bonuses that turn your cash deposit into bonus funds too. About bloody time IMO.

I look forward to seeing how they deal with this. A large part of their income must come from DOTD bonuses where players simply can't meet the wagering requirements and end up busting out.

I watch on with great relish.
 

Jono777

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I look forward to seeing how they deal with this. A large part of their income must come from DOTD bonuses where players simply can't meet the wagering requirements and end up busting out.

I watch on with great relish.

My personal "guess" from general online experience is along with other big changes, they will simply scrap this system altogether.
 

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wow, I am pretty speechless. But not that much that I cant say what I think about this. Let me just say this.
Q: Will I miss the match bonuses?
A: Yes I will!

Q: Will I want to still take the new type bonuses they offer in their places?
A: Yes depending what new terms they will have.

Q: Am I happy that the UKGC have made this judgement?
A: To a certain extent yes I am.

I mean to also be fair, the only casinos I play at that I do sometimes get match bonuses from are Leovegas and rizk casino. VS I do not get them. Not had a match bonus at VS since I was new there.

I mean it is a good thing in my opinion. But it would mean the end of match bonuses in the UK And it also could mean its the end of ND bonuses for goodwills as well.
 

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[QUOTE="DreamRJ, And it also could mean its the end of ND bonuses for goodwills as well.[/QUOTE]

Unlikely as this is not players money, its the casinos so they can give it out and use whatever terms they like as its not a players cash / deposit.

Extremely rare I bother with these nowadays anyway, Too many "max cashouts" etc crept in, hate for the day when the 5th reel finally drips blood wild and its from a freebie :eek:
 

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I used to be a bonus hunter and would never deposit without a bonus. Now I don't touch them, casinos have slowly bonus banned me over the years eventually got used to playing cash only and now I prefer to play this way no worries about breaking any terms and easy cash outs when you hit big early, mathematically the odds are stacked against you with WR anyway.
 

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Can't remember the last time I played with a bonus. There's more chance of me playing pick up sticks with my buttcheeks than using one. Not to mention the dearth of decent ones floating about these days with reasonable - nevermind low- wagering requirements tagged on.

Used to be a pre-requisite to have a bonus to extend playtime, now they act as more of a hindrance.

Simply put, whatever great conclusion UKGC draw, they don't quite seem to comprehend that casinos will just find ways around the bonus structure. The UKGC should abolish bonuses altogether, how about them apples :cool:
 

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Written Into a fair few terms at casinos and bingo sites that nutnut.
'By playing a at our casino, should the player win a progressive jackpot he or she agrees to allow us to publish his win, including his name and an ugly mug shot of him holding up a stupid cheque that is bigger than he is, should we choose to do so'

I was forced to do so winning a lousy 1k on Mfortune.
 

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I rare play with a bonus so this wont effect me but no surprise it has come about. And about time to! With all the mad insane to read terms and conditions and players getting fucked over for breaking any number of rules. Now they will need to clean up there act. Im glad this is coming into force and I for one wont miss the "deposit bonus" with 250 different terms attatched to it. We deposit our money so there should be no limits other than if we win we get paid if we loose we dont bitch. Casinos have wanted it there own way for to long.
 

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I rare play with a bonus so this wont effect me but no surprise it has come about. And about time to! With all the mad insane to read terms and conditions and players getting fucked over for breaking any number of rules. Now they will need to clean up there act. Im glad this is coming into force and I for one wont miss the "deposit bonus" with 250 different terms attatched to it. We deposit our money so there should be no limits other than if we win we get paid if we loose we dont bitch. Casinos have wanted it there own way for to long.

It is the fact that it is being banned where I have a problem with. You don't have to take deposit match bonuses and some people do like playing with them. They now possibly will not be able to do this.

Besides, the badly written bonus terms will still apply if bonus and cash funds are separated. You are still going to get complaints because a player inadvertently broke the terms whilst playing with bonus funds only.
 

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Aaah, when you think back to the old Ladbrokes days with its 4x WR....
Or was that 32Red, forgot now.

Plenty of casino's doing this already..

Caddell sites
Leo Vegas
Casino Heroes
Slotsmillions & Ladylucks
Betat.
Those Nektan sites.
Probably more I dont know about.

All going strong.
Welcome move IMO as I prefer these type of bonuses.
Wont be OK for some though who do like the bonuses.

If we lose some bonuses from some casino's then so be it, plenty of others to choose from
 
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Jono777

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Until you get a Caddell ban :p

Leo Vegas - Rarely any offers
Casino Heroes - Read too many negative posts
SM and LL - No offers for weeks and weeks
Betat - Usually go to DoA with my last 10er, can't do that here (thought they'd maybe relax this rule with the 'new' DoA)
Nektan - No thanks - Ultimate crooks.

On top of all this then there is the Skrill / Paysafe card thing to watch out for.

Now looking on my Caddell ban as a good thing as its like its prepared me over last few weeks of things to come.

I don't get any offers hardly these days, new casinos not an option really as modern WR too steep on SUB's (until UKGC changes kick in maybe??)

Cash only deposits are busting pretty fast and it looks like my 'tactic' of 14 years is sadly at an end. As much as you all know, I love a good session but am not totally addicted so if / when things get beyond pathetic, I don't feel I'll have too much of a problem giving it neck altogether. :D

PS: It was Laddies with the x4 WR, later changed to x10
 

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Aaah, when you think back to the old Ladbrokes days with its 4x WR....
Or was that 32Red, forgot now.

Plenty of casino's doing this already..

Caddell sites
Leo Vegas
Casino Heroes
Slotsmillions & Ladylucks
Betat.
Those Nektan sites.
Probably more I dont know about.

All going strong.
Welcome move IMO as I prefer these type of bonuses.
Wont be OK for some though who do like the bonuses.

If we lose some bonuses from some casino's then so be it, plenty of others to choose from

Leovegas do not have 4X WR. No idea where you got that from. Not sure the others you listed do 4X wager either. Leovegas is 35X WR always be it freespin winnings or match bonuses!!!!!
 

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Until you get a Caddell ban :p

Leo Vegas - Rarely any offers
Casino Heroes - Read too many negative posts
SM and LL - No offers for weeks and weeks
Betat - Usually go to DoA with my last 10er, can't do that here (thought they'd maybe relax this rule with the 'new' DoA)
Nektan - No thanks - Ultimate crooks.

On top of all this then there is the Skrill / Paysafe card thing to watch out for.

Now looking on my Caddell ban as a good thing as its like its prepared me over last few weeks of things to come.

I don't get any offers hardly these days, new casinos not an option really as modern WR too steep on SUB's (until UKGC changes kick in maybe??)

Cash only deposits are busting pretty fast and it looks like my 'tactic' of 14 years is sadly at an end. As much as you all know, I love a good session but am not totally addicted so if / when things get beyond pathetic, I don't feel I'll have too much of a problem giving it neck altogether. :D

PS: It was Laddies with the x4 WR, later changed to x10

That Caddell ban still smarting Jono? Took me less time to get over my marriage - the ban hurt that bad; first cut is the deepest! :p
 

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Until you get a Caddell ban :p

Leo Vegas - Rarely any offers
Casino Heroes - Read too many negative posts
SM and LL - No offers for weeks and weeks
Betat - Usually go to DoA with my last 10er, can't do that here (thought they'd maybe relax this rule with the 'new' DoA)
Nektan - No thanks - Ultimate crooks.

On top of all this then there is the Skrill / Paysafe card thing to watch out for.

Now looking on my Caddell ban as a good thing as its like its prepared me over last few weeks of things to come.

I don't get any offers hardly these days, new casinos not an option really as modern WR too steep on SUB's (until UKGC changes kick in maybe??)

Cash only deposits are busting pretty fast and it looks like my 'tactic' of 14 years is sadly at an end. As much as you all know, I love a good session but am not totally addicted so if / when things get beyond pathetic, I don't feel I'll have too much of a problem giving it neck altogether. :D

PS: It was Laddies with the x4 WR, later changed to x10


You should get the SlotsMillion and LadyLucks' bonuses. They don't usually send out emails with the offers. But they're always there when you log in. It's just a matter of remembering which days they do whatever on, although a lot of the SM bonuses are only available between certain times of day. There should be a 50% tomorrow night at SM, but only available between 7pm and 11pm
 

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That Caddell ban still smarting Jono? Took me less time to get over my marriage - the ban hurt that bad; first cut is the deepest! :p

Its more the case of how much dosh I took off them which will no longer be forthcoming which is causing the pain lol :eek:

It did not bother me too much after a week or so but I will say they stand out from the crowd with their bonus offers compared to pretty much the whole of the rest of the market!!!

I'd make a pun re the marriage thing but wifey reads CM too :p :p
 

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Its more the case of how much dosh I took off them which will no longer be forthcoming which is causing the pain lol :eek:

It did not bother me too much after a week or so but I will say they stand out from the crowd with their bonus offers compared to pretty much the whole of the rest of the market!!!

I'd make a pun re the marriage thing but wifey reads CM too :p :p

Good job you PM'd that message about 'what you wouldn't give for 200% reload bonus's from Spin Station':laugh:
 

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If Betat, Redbet and Leo Vegas can make decent money from it, I dont see how this will change this for everybody to be honest - I do remember Igor (Betat) saying he had to increase the wagering on the bonus due to the cash-out-your-own-cash rule, and most casinos will (should) follow suit.

That makes sense to me and is fair, as long as the winnings are not capped.

In case they are stupid and go down the route of micro bonuses with no wagering, which BGO made a song and dance about but ensured everyone I know to stop playing there, I don’t see much changing for everyone.
 

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That is awesome news - now these casinos will be forced to deal with promos besides bonus BS. I've been preaching about this since around 2000 - good to see the UKGC getting on board with my train of thought.
 

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@SpinUk, if Leovegas and co. were making good money with their parachute bonuses, why have they dried up?

Lots of optimism in this thread, and dunover I know your business model depends on sign up bonuses but I predict lots of "fair spins" offers aka BGO.
 

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Admin note: Merged the two threads together to this one.
 

SpinUk

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@SpinUk, if Leovegas and co. were making good money with their parachute bonuses, why have they dried up?

Lots of optimism in this thread, and dunover I know your business model depends on sign up bonuses but I predict lots of "fair spins" offers aka BGO.

Well they are every week still plus a super-spins offer so...

Slotsmillion arn’t exactly short of a few quid or players (1m+) either and they offer them twice a week, one being 100%. So something is clearly working pretty well.
 
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