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Does MAX BET increase odds ?

Discussion in 'Slots Discussion' started by Kaynos, Jan 26, 2016.

    Jan 26, 2016
  1. Kaynos

    Kaynos Dormant account

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    I keep reading about MAX BET but some peoples say it's increase the odds while other says it's only draining your bankroll faster.... what's your opinion ?
     
  2. Jan 26, 2016
  3. lockinlove

    lockinlove Staring into the sun PABaccred

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    On some softwares it increases the odds for you to win a random jackpot.

    As for gameplay I dont think so
     
  4. Jan 26, 2016
  5. knappster83

    knappster83 Dormant account

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    Some games require max bet to trigger a certain feature or improve chances of hitting a progressive jackpot but they will explain this in the game instructions. Otherwise your bet will have no influence on the odds of the game.
     
  6. Jan 26, 2016
  7. lockinlove

    lockinlove Staring into the sun PABaccred

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    RTG slots. The bigger bets you make, the better the chance at their jackpots.
     
  8. Jan 26, 2016
  9. hhhelllo

    hhhelllo Senior Member

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    I already read on another post that netent dracula slot if you bet 6$ and more, the rtp becomes 99%. I dont know what is the source of this info though... And I havent found it in the help file. Maybe just another legend like vampires. :eek:
     
  10. Jan 26, 2016
  11. eizei

    eizei Experienced Member MM

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    Sounds like baseless rumors to be honest. No reason for NetEnt to implement this and especially then not mention it.
     
  12. Jan 26, 2016
  13. Kaynos

    Kaynos Dormant account

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    What i read is that the highest the bet, the higher the return percentage. So if a slot as on average a 94% return, it might be like 85% at 1c bet and 98% at 5$ bet. But i have no way to confirm or deny that.
     
  14. Jan 26, 2016
  15. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    If a slot has an RTP of say 97%..it has an RTP of 97% whether you're playing pennies, quarters, 3$ a pop etc.
    After all it isn't the return to you specifically; rather the the theoretical return the machine spits out (you could walk away from your session 15% or 115%)
     
  16. Jan 26, 2016
  17. hhhelllo

    hhhelllo Senior Member

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    I know it sounds ridiculous but I read that in here more than once.... Maybe I work too much and it's just a dream...
     
  18. Jan 26, 2016
  19. hedgehok

    hedgehok Meister Member mm3

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    The slot you're talking about is named "Ooh Aah Dracula" from Barcrest which provides a 99% TRTP when playing "Highroller spins" $6 each.
     
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  20. Jan 26, 2016
  21. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    You're a little confused - that was on the Barcrest version: Ooh Aah Dracula!

    I play this quite a lot, but it's not for the faint-hearted though - you have to bet £20 or £30 for 5 spins!
    (Betting £30 gives you a CHANCE of getting £150 in the graveyard bonus at the end of free-spins, instead of the £50 max from the £20 bet)
    What's more - the payouts you get are the same as betting £1/spin.
    BUT... you get stacked wilds instead of the single wilds in the base game and the free-spins trigger more frequently. :thumbsup:

    It's pretty low variance. I've just analysed the last 20 lots of 5 spins where I won the free-spins in the last 2 weeks:
    Best win I've had from 5 spins = £380
    Worst win = £64
    Average win = £164
    I've got free-spins roughly once in every 8 sets of 5 spins.
    In those sessions I have definitely got a lot MORE than 99% RTP! :cool:
    (Haven't worked out the exact profit- that would take quite a while)


    Does MAX BET increase odds ?: OohAhDracular1.jpg,Jan 26, 2016


    Does MAX BET increase odds ?: OohAhDracular2.jpg,Jan 26, 2016


    KK
     
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  22. Jan 26, 2016
  23. Jasminebed

    Jasminebed Closer to 100 than Birth

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    This does tend to be true for land based slots, based on denominations, not bet size. So a $2 bet on a $1 machine will have a higher RTP than a $2 bet on a penny machine.

    But except as mentioned for jackpots or some special features, not true online.
     
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  24. Jan 26, 2016
  25. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    I agree with JasmineBed. I believe the special High Roller lounges in many Vegas casinos apply this principle but I've never heard this to be true online except, as osmeone already said, when an "extra bet" (seen on Aristocrat, NextGen and RTG slots mostly) is applied to trigger features which do improve the RTP.
     
  26. Jan 26, 2016
  27. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    Well, in my one and only experience of hi-rolling the Rhino, I'd say the opposite was true. It bent me over, whipped me, double-fisted and sodomized me then threw me in the water hole when it had finished....

    My grimmest ever slotting experience. Luckily funded by Twin Spin beforehand.
     
  28. Jan 26, 2016
  29. hhhelllo

    hhhelllo Senior Member

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    Ok so I am not totally insane :) thanks for the precision guys
     
  30. Jan 26, 2016
  31. Googobucs

    Googobucs Meister Member

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    Your not insane at all. I believe what you are seeing is related to land based slots ( possibly even some on line). The % RTP tends to go up with the denomination of the machine.

    You will also frequently see pay tables where the payout varies based on coins played. For example:
    1 coin may pay 1000
    2 coins pays 2000
    3 coins pays 10,000

    So your RTP would be higher playing max of 3 coins because of the higher jackpot amount.

    This is why people say to play max coins, but with most of today's video style slots the pay tables are even across coins played so it's less of a factor then it used to be but you have to read the machine tables to see.
     
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  32. Feb 15, 2016
  33. roulettedonkey

    roulettedonkey Banned User - Troll - making anti-semitic posts

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    Until the day
    - the slot source codes are made public or reviewed by multiple credible authorities, and
    - a You must register/login in order to see the link. is implemented for the player to check that the spins have not been determined posterior to the bet,
    there is no reason to believe these statements (or anything else, for that matter).


    3... 2... 1...
     
  34. Feb 15, 2016
  35. Diane

    Diane Ueber Meister PABnoaccred

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    This is especially true for Video Poker..............love/hate that last coin left spin when you hit the RF. Arrgh..

    Diane
     
  36. Feb 15, 2016
  37. nisosbar

    nisosbar Ueber Meister PABnonaccred

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    With regard to land-based, I do not think this applies as much as some claim. If you look at the required published statistics on RTP percentages in casinos based in New Jersey or elsewhere on the US East Coast, you'll find that there is no rhyme or reason to the actual RTP's. In fact, as the bet size climbs, the RTP curves seems to resemble a bell curve, rather than an incline.
     
  38. Feb 15, 2016
  39. spoton

    spoton Senior Member webmeister

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    As others have said here, yes in some cases it does. As some here have pointed out, one some videopokers it can also give you a positive TRTP on the best hand, but the variance is so high you need to have unlimited of money to make use of it.
     

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