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dec2008mcl

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Internet Cyber Crime, branch of the fbi. Alot of these fake/rouge casinos are funding global terrorism and governments have a watch list. Approach your bank and tell them you have been a victim of international fraud, and by their own banking standards/codes they have to investigate, and put you back into the financial position you were in before the crime. The service you received was illegal and international law holds the purveyor accountable.
 

Gaz237

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Internet Cyber Crime, branch of the fbi. Alot of these fake/rouge casinos are funding global terrorism and governments have a watch list. Approach your bank and tell them you have been a victim of international fraud, and by their own banking standards/codes they have to investigate, and put you back into the financial position you were in before the crime. The service you received was illegal and international law holds the purveyor accountable.

The OP gambled his money and lost it and is now calling foul, as he has read about chargebacks online.

Do you really think the bank are going to investigate it?.

Why should the bank cough up because the OP failed the most basic of checks.

Legal background LOL.
 

EkJR

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The OP gambled his money and lost it and is now calling foul, as he has read about chargebacks online.

Do you really think the bank are going to investigate it?.

Why should the bank cough up because the OP failed the most basic of checks.

Legal background LOL.

Tbf to the OP the terms say they wouldnt have paid him regardless.
 

colinsunderland

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Internet Cyber Crime, branch of the fbi. Alot of these fake/rouge casinos are funding global terrorism and governments have a watch list. Approach your bank and tell them you have been a victim of international fraud, and by their own banking standards/codes they have to investigate, and put you back into the financial position you were in before the crime. The service you received was illegal and international law holds the purveyor accountable.

Why are you saying that as if it's fact. There is no international fraud, they don't have to do anything of the sort.
The OP freely signed up to a service that he shouldn't have. He freely deposited money. He freely accepted the terms and conditions. Where is the fraud in that?
 

colinsunderland

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Tbf to the OP the terms say they wouldnt have paid him regardless.

which he was happy about when he signed up

This is why the UKGC should lobby to have all transactions to non UKGC regulated casinos blocked at the bank end.

There would likely still be ways round it, BC for example, but would prevent 90% of these cases.
 

EkJR

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Internet Cyber Crime, branch of the fbi. Alot of these fake/rouge casinos are funding global terrorism and governments have a watch list. Approach your bank and tell them you have been a victim of international fraud, and by their own banking standards/codes they have to investigate, and put you back into the financial position you were in before the crime. The service you received was illegal and international law holds the purveyor accountable.

More chance of this lot getting involved. download.jpeg-1.jpg
 

EkJR

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which he was happy about when he signed up

This is why the UKGC should lobby to have all transactions to non UKGC regulated casinos blocked at the bank end.

I thought they were stopped unless through one of those third party payment services?
 

EkJR

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Funny how the terms are only important, now he has lost his money.

Yes but they are so rogue its unreal, it's a lesson sure, but they stipulate clearly that the UK is prohibited yet allow someone to sign up and spend money. They have now blocked UK player sign ups as per my earlier post.
 

am2020

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The OP gambled his money and lost it and is now calling foul, as he has read about chargebacks online.

Do you really think the bank are going to investigate it?.

Why should the bank cough up because the OP failed the most basic of checks.

Legal background LOL.
Didn’t read about chargeback lol, I’ve worked in financial institutions for years I know all about them. I’ve never posted an issue on these forums just wanted a second opinion.

Honestly your opinion is your own but that’s all it is. Anyone got any legal specifics of useful info they can provide cheers in advance. Also appreciate those that say walk away from the stress. Appreciate thats also a most likely outcome- lesson learnt.
 

dec2008mcl

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Why are you saying that as if it's fact. There is no international fraud, they don't have to do anything of the sort.
The OP freely signed up to a service that he shouldn't have. He freely deposited money. He freely accepted the terms and conditions. Where is the fraud in that?
Why is there so much misinformation on this site. If I buy weed on a site from a state in
Why are you saying that as if it's fact. There is no international fraud, they don't have to do anything of the sort.
The OP freely signed up to a service that he shouldn't have. He freely deposited money. He freely accepted the terms and conditions. Where is the fraud in that?
They had no license to provide the service. It is illegal for them to provide service here. There t&c's do not apply here. Fraud pure and simple
You cannot accept something that is not legal.
 

Gaz237

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Yes but they are so rogue its unreal, it's a lesson sure, but they stipulate clearly that the UK is prohibited yet allow someone to sign up and spend money. They have now blocked UK player sign ups as per my earlier post.

They can stipulate anything they want, they are not governed by UK law (or any law that's worth anything).
 

Gaz237

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Why is there so much misinformation on this site. If I buy weed on a site from a state in

They had no license to provide the service. It is illegal for them to provide service here. There t&c's do not apply here. Fraud pure and simple
You cannot accept something that is not legal.

5 days you have been a member here.

I'm so glad you have turned up to save us all.

Thunderbirds are Go

FAB.
 

EkJR

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They can stipulate anything they want, they are not governed by UK law (or any law that's worth anything).

Under their law they need to prevent access to those who are prohibited from doing so, so it is against their licence terms. However, we know it's a cowboy licence.
 

Gaz237

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Didn’t read about chargeback lol, I’ve worked in financial institutions for years I know all about them. I’ve never posted an issue on these forums just wanted a second opinion.

Honestly your opinion is your own but that’s all it is. Anyone got any legal specifics of useful info they can provide cheers in advance. Also appreciate those that say walk away from the stress. Appreciate thats also a most likely outcome- lesson learnt.

@dec2008mcl is your man.
 

colinsunderland

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So you don't think these casinos are breaking any laws?

I think they shouldn't be accepting uk players as they don't have a license. I also think the UKGC could do a lot to stop this and don't.

You stated the OP was a victim of international fraud, and that the banking code says the bank HAVE to put the OP back into the financial position he was in before the crime.

Then you quoted me and asked why there was so much misinformation on the site.

Can you put a link to the specific international fraud law you were meaning, along with an explanation of how exactly you think they broke it? Then, quote and link to the section of the banking code that show the banks, in that particular situation, HAVE to refund the OP's money.

Clearly that won't be a problem or how would you know it to be correct, rather than misinformation? It would obviously be a great help to the OP, which is what the forum is about, helping people, as then he will be able to go back to his bank and get refunded without any problem, as he will be able to quote the correct sections of the correct acts to them.
 
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