Corona virus - Covid 19 discussion

[Playford7]

Grief tourists will soon run out of content. This lockdown will be over before May ends.

Them can we have a recession and depression thread as large numbers on furlough when businesses open back up get sacked.

You know the biggest crime is people with real diseases are being forgotten. I have a friend who been diagnosed with cancer just before this covid and they had appointments cancelled and zero help since this as they're told to stay away.

Must agree to a point.
and your correct on the cancer patients having treatment cancelled, know someone myself.
getting pretty sick of it all now. Yes it’s serious to a degree, but many are using it to grandstand.
katie Hopkins tweeted something interesting, I won’t post it but she had a point love or hate her .
Edit: for balance, just had a phone call with my wine and cigarette loving mother, has more degrees than Steven fry.
She’s 3 friends currently receiving superb cancer treatment from the nhs, she’s straight talking and pulls no punches, so am more inclined to believe that than the narrative on a whole that cancer patients are ignored.

 

[snorky510238]

Regarding this virus it is hard to establish fact from fiction so I am just basing this post on logic and personal observations along with some general opinion which is considered to be somewhere near the mark.

If I have understand it correctly the period from contracting the virus to actually displaying symptoms is about 5-11 days. I think we have been in lockdown for 20 days.

For the last week we have consistently seen around 5,000 new cases each day(UK). What I don’t know is how many of these cases are people who have had the symptoms for a while I.e. they may of contracted the virus before lockdown and how many cases are people who in theory have contracted it after the lockdown.

I suppose that information would be difficult to relay accurately but imo is key because theoretically even if people had contracted the disease on the last day before lockdown (and it had been adhered to strictly) then we should have seen the peak 11 days (max) into lockdown.

This is not the case though so either a lot of these cases are people who contracted the virus a while ago (suggesting the carrying time before symptoms show is much longer) or they are people who have had the symptoms for quite a while but their cases are only just being recorded. The other alternative is the lockdown isn’t working but that view could be countered by saying just think how many cases we would have if we hadn’t had a lockdown.

Given the way this all reads or can be interpreted I cannot possibly see how we can start to ease restrictions anytime soon. Surely if that happens, a few months further on and we will end up in a worse situation than we are in now. Surely that has to be logical or have I missed something?

 

[shadow123]

Does seem rather strange.I would have thought the transmission rate between those in lockdown would be
very low and contribute very few new cases so there must still be rampant transmisson with people
still working on essential sevices unless there is some other factor we havnt clicked onto yet like
the virus remaining dormant for a long while after infection then activating in earnest weeks or even months later.
Going to be a hard situation to get out of, think its something we will have to live with until a vaccine is produced which could be six months away if we are lucky.

 

[Mr_Slot5]

Does seem rather strange.I would have thought the transmission rate between those in lockdown would be
very low and contribute very few new cases so there must still be rampant transmisson with people
still working on essential sevices unless there is some other factor we havnt clicked onto yet like
the virus remaining dormant for a long while after infection then activating in earnest weeks or even months later.
Going to be a hard situation to get out of, think its something we will have to live with until a vaccine is produced which could be six months away if we are lucky.

It will still be spreading in places like supermarkets, regardless of social distancing. I would imagine places like that will be hot beds of transmission right now.
Then you have the effect of people catching it in supermarkets spreading it to their families...
Add on other key workers and you have a lot of cases.

Without lockdown we'd have had herd immunity (and a lot of death in a short period) within about 6 weeks.

 

[irish-ranger]

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You having a bad day there Harry lol

 

[shadow123]

Must say all the shops still open around here are doing all they can to prevent infection.
Suppose it only takes one person with the virus to touch a few goods without buying them to infect others.
Would be a good move to require all customers to wear gloves in the shops, would say that the majority dont.

 

[snorky510238]

Yes surely any form of exit strategy other than a vaccine or the virus dying out/weakening naturally would be very high risk.

Imagine the unrest if the government did ease restrictions only for hundreds of thousands to become infected as a result and we set ourselves back tenfold.

 

[shadow123]

Been looking at the Spanish Flu outbreak after WW1, that was a lot worse,killing miilions, trying to find out
how that ended, possible it ran out of people to infect as it was so rampant.
Will have to look again or have a late session on Donuts.

 

[Mr_Slot5]

Must say all the shops still open around here are doing all they can to prevent infection.
Suppose it only takes one person with the virus to touch a few goods without buying them to infect others.
Would be a good move to require all customers to wear gloves in the shops, would say that the majority dont.

It doesn't matter how many times you disinfect surfaces if someone is walking around exhaling virus droplets from coughs, sneezes or even just breathing. They will stay suspended in the air long enough for many people to come into contact with them. This, first and foremost is a respiratory disease and so IMO it stands to reason that the greatest threat comes in the form of inhaled virions.

We're seeing countries forcing the use of face masks when out show lower infection rates...which figures. If someone coughs or sneezes wearing a mask, the resultant aerosol is not propelled into the near environment.

 

[Playford7]

Tough to see anything at all at the moment as I am still getting the "pleasant multi-banner treatment". And for some reason somebody thinks I like them so much and made sure the block appears now often twice and even three times on every page.

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Harry do you own ‘casino jefe’ haha

 

[Borgie]

Must say all the shops still open around here are doing all they can to prevent infection.
Suppose it only takes one person with the virus to touch a few goods without buying them to infect others.
Would be a good move to require all customers to wear gloves in the shops, would say that the majority dont.

I was reading abo

It will still be spreading in places like supermarkets, regardless of social distancing. I would imagine places like that will be hot beds of transmission right now.
Then you have the effect of people catching it in supermarkets spreading it to their families...
Add on other key workers and you have a lot of cases.

Without lockdown we'd have had herd immunity (and a lot of death in a short period) within about 6 weeks.

If that is correct about the 6 weeks then Sweden should have the herd immunity in about 2 weeks ? Is that right?

I actually think there are so many factors to take into consideration it's a complete nightmare.

1. The amount of people that are in close proximity to each other. Some countries have a far more spread out population where as in some many sleep in the same room and lots live close together.

2. The amount of testing that is done and the contact tracing . Some countries have done lots others not so. Thus in many countries we have no idea how many have the virus or have had it.

3. The way figures are collected to say how many people have it or have died and the timeliness of that information being gathered and announced . Even the honesty of that information in some countries.

4. The standard of health care available and the number of icu beds and ventilators.

5. The willingness of citizens to do as requested. In China they do as they are told or face consequences. People vanish or may be severely punished
In Sweden they mostly do as asked without the need of actual new laws to make them. In the uk we are a mix of both.
The police action. In Italy and Spain the police are empowered to be much stricter and have a lot of control.
The lead on to all this is the financial assistance available to those grounded at home.

6. The point that lock down began. Some countries acted really quickly. New Zealand for example where they locked down after a few hundred cases and no deaths at the point of lockdown. This makes a massive difference and those countries seem to be reaping benefits.

The thing is there is no one size fits all and no guarantee that if you copy what another country is doing that it will work for you.

The doctors need to learn from other doctors about the best way to treat patients and science will hopefully show why some people are really badly affected and not others.

Ending lockdown asap I am sure is the goal of all governments everywhere but has to be done in a controlled and timely way.

 

[Playford7]

Was supposed to be a rack.
Sadly not folks, we do have lamb joint however, sprouts and old carrots.
Mashed mustard potato, spinach and broccoli under and the old Yorkshire puds.
oh and lamb fat roast potatoes.. served with Pepsi cold, sadly not ice cold as ran out :-(
Should my good friend ‘gaz the pro immune CM troll’ want any.. well hell yes he’s a plate of heaven.
hope as always guys, ladies and folks we are ok, it’s shitty at the minute but its not forever!..
best and happiest regards.
Ben
Edit: braised red cabbage. It’s a must

 

[Jasminebed]

Was supposed to be a rack.
Sadly not folks, we do have lamb joint however, sprouts and old carrots.
Mashed mustard potato, spinach and broccoli under and the old Yorkshire puds.
oh and lamb fat roast potatoes.. served with Pepsi cold, sadly not ice cold as ran out :-(
Should my good friend ‘gaz the pro immune CM troll’ want any.. well hell yes he’s a plate of heaven.
hope as always guys, ladies and folks we are ok, it’s shitty at the minute but its not forever!..
best and happiest regards.
Ben
Edit: braised red cabbage. It’s a must

Not overly fond of rack of lamb. I find them a little fatty, and over priced. I prefer lamb on the rare side. Those little lamb loin chops on the othed hand....

Dinner looks tasty.

Mustard mashed potatoes sound interesting. I got back into making mustards just over a year ago. It is easy and not expensive.

 

[ternur]

I know 'alternative viewpoint theorists' have been forewarning how we'd all get vaccinated against our will, have microchips put in us and how 5G's going to melt our eyes.
[...]

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
-- Hanlon's razor

But then again. Some people are evil and stupid. What's scary, is that some of those people are heads of states.

 

[goatwack]

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
-- Hanlon's razor

But then again. Some people are evil and stupid. What's scary, is that some of those people are heads of states.

Thing is, I barely remember posting that. It must have been not long after I got up.

Still, God loves a trier

 

[Kroffe]

Was supposed to be a rack.
Sadly not folks, we do have lamb joint however, sprouts and old carrots.
Mashed mustard potato, spinach and broccoli under and the old Yorkshire puds.
oh and lamb fat roast potatoes.. served with Pepsi cold, sadly not ice cold as ran out :-(
Should my good friend ‘gaz the pro immune CM troll’ want any.. well hell yes he’s a plate of heaven.
hope as always guys, ladies and folks we are ok, it’s shitty at the minute but its not forever!..
best and happiest regards.
Ben
Edit: braised red cabbage. It’s a must

I must say, i thought the lighting was a bit over the top.
And maybe invest in a tripod to get better focus.

Just kidding ben.
As always, a masterpiece.

 

[ternur]

Still, God loves a trier

Or just kicks them out of heaven.

 

[Steviedoo]

Was supposed to be a rack.
Sadly not folks, we do have lamb joint however, sprouts and old carrots.
Mashed mustard potato, spinach and broccoli under and the old Yorkshire puds.
oh and lamb fat roast potatoes.. served with Pepsi cold, sadly not ice cold as ran out :-(
Should my good friend ‘gaz the pro immune CM troll’ want any.. well hell yes he’s a plate of heaven.
hope as always guys, ladies and folks we are ok, it’s shitty at the minute but its not forever!..
best and happiest regards.
Ben
Edit: braised red cabbage. It’s a must

ok can we at least focus the photo...lol...

 

[ternur]

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"Larger gatherings — conferences, concerts, sporting events — when people say they’re going to reschedule this conference or graduation event for October 2020, I have no idea how they think that’s a plausible possibility. I think those things will be the last to return. Realistically we’re talking fall 2021 at the earliest."

 

[goatwack]

To be fair, we don't just go from people-shunning and isolation frolics to full-blown mass gatherings.

And as concerts and sporting events aren't likely to realistically incorporate the 2-metre rule, it makes attending them somewhat moot.

Live streams with Chris Martin it is then for the foreseeable

 

[ternur]

To be fair, we don't just go from people-shunning and isolation frolics to full-blown mass gatherings.

And as concerts and sporting events aren't likely to realistically incorporate the 2-metre rule, it makes attending them somewhat moot.

Live streams with Chris Martin it is then for the foreseeable

Yep, even postponing Tokyo 2020 to next year might have been wishful thinking. Here's hoping things will get better sooner.

But on a serious note Goatwack. Coldplay?! I'd rather watch my morning stream hit the bowl than expose my ears and eyes to that kind of abomination. Apologies to anyone who actually likes Coldplay.

 

[goatwack]

Yep, even postponing Tokyo 2020 to next year might have been wishful thinking. Here's hoping things will get better sooner.

But on a serious note Goatwack. Coldplay?! I'd rather watch my morning stream hit the bowl than expose my ears and eyes to that kind of abomination. Apologies to anyone who actually likes Coldplay.

Did the eyes of Satan fail to spot the crying underneath me mentioning Coldplay?

All that time in hell and maybe best you get some glasses, oh majestic foul lord of the underworld

*Coldplay suck, I make no apologies for that fact

 

[ternur]

Did the eyes of Satan fail to spot the crying underneath me mentioning Coldplay?

All that time in hell and maybe best you get some glasses, oh majestic foul lord of the underworld

*Coldplay suck, I make no apologies for that fact

Please accept my apologies for not being adequately observant of the post in its entirety.

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[goatwack]

Please accept my apologies for not being adequately observant of the post in its entirety.

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That makes me very happy. Happy as happy can be

 

[Kroffe]

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Ah, the flying bow, classic.
I usually go for the slide-bow.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Love the bows, so humble as they should be.

Back to Corona quickly and regarding the UK lockdown. I agree there may be some forms of civil unrest if it continues but the question is 'will the health service collapse and deaths spiral out of control if it is lifted?'.

If the answer is no then lockdown must and will continue.

As for vaccines there is something about sticking a needle in and injecting a disease that doesnt quite feel or sound right with me.

I opt out of the flu vaccine myself and decided against it for my kids, going against the common trend and advice from family and friends. I think the best chance for my kids to be healthy is to stay away from modern medicine as much as possible.

I am sure there is tons of evidence to suggest i am wrong but then again there would be if the drug companies want to push their medicines and the fat cats boost economies and generate revenue streams.

Anybody of similar thought for their kids? Do many other countries have the flu vaccine? Kids had the standard ones, just thought the flu jab was a step too far

 

[dionysus]

I don't get the flu shot simply because I never get the flu, but I've had *ucktons of shots and vaccinations, most prrequisties for having worked overseas.

Think of the family dog.
What would you sooner do? Give him a rabies shot or take him out back and shoot him because he got rabies and you didnt take a simple preventative measure

I'm young (ish...shut up) but glad mom gets the flu shot

A vaccination isn't a guarantee but I'd hope all kids at least get them.

 

[ternur]

[...]
As for vaccines there is something about sticking a needle in and injecting a disease that doesnt quite feel or sound right with me.

I opt out of the flu vaccine myself and decided against it for my kids, going against the common trend and advice from family and friends. I think the best chance for my kids to be healthy is to stay away from modern medicine as much as possible.

I am sure there is tons of evidence to suggest i am wrong but then again there would b if the drug companies want to push their medicines and the fat cats boost economies and generate revenue streams.

Anybody of similar thought for their kids? Do many other countries have the flu vaccine? Kids had the standard ones, just thought the flu jab was a step too far

I've opted out of influenza vaccines personally too. I don't belong to any of the risk groups, so I haven't seen them as necessary.

Free vaccinations are available to risk groups under the national immunisation programme (and social/health workers).

 

[bamberfishcake]

I don't get the flu shot simply because I never get the flu, but I've had *ucktons of shots and vaccinations, most prrequisties for having worked overseas.

Think of the family dog.
What would you sooner do? Give him a rabies shot or take him out back and shoot him because he got rabies and you didnt take a simple preventative measure

I'm young (ish...shut up) but glad mom gets the flu shot

A vaccination isn't a guarantee but I'd hope all kids at least get them.

Hmmm, i am still kind of on the fence. Its a different thought process when considering the kids or my own risks.

My decision was based on a hunch and that the best defence is a naturally built one not one that is forced or chemically enhanced. For years we have consumed stuff that is known now to be harmful yet at the time was supposed to be beneficial.

Medicines have also been promoted and widely distributed and then found to be harmful.

I also dont really know of anyone or have any family that have been affected by flu which probably helped my decision also.

Their Mum doesnt really have an opinion and at the last minute i changed my mind and said go for it but she didnt notify the school in time.

We can still get them of course but have people not also died from having the flu jab? I should say that my boy had bronchiolitis when he was 6 months. He carried a cough for a year or two that has now gone. Runs around like a lunatic without getting tired and is as strong as an ox now.

A few months after the events that saw him in hospital with a tube in him for oxygen it was suggested that he may be asthmatic. He went for tests and was issued inhalers. Even though you cannot conclusively diagnose asthma at such a young age. When at his Mums she used the inhalers all the time and when with me only twice that i can think of as a precaution because, at those times, i did feel it would help.

Any other time i did not see the need. His Mum is a terrible worrier and i knew she would be jumping at the slightest wheeze. He was not struggling. Had suffered bronchiolitis and i thought his lungs must be weak and maybe underdeveloped.

I think if he had been nannied he would now be a sickly boy on inhalers being stopped from running around just in case. Funny, the doctor at the asthma clinic supported me in my approach.

I still keep stocked on inhalers but i am definitely of the 'nature is nuture' thinking, if that is the right use of the expression.

Still undecided if they should get it next time though.

This would have been good for debate group........

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/community/debate.380/

 

[dionysus]

Hmmm, i am still kind of on the fence. Its a different thought process when considering the kids or my own risks.

My decision was based on a hunch and that the best defence is a naturally built one not one that is forced or chemically enhanced.

We also tended to die before the age of 40 pre advanced medicine; that's kind of the clincher for me

Bodies are remarkable machines and I dont think you should throw syrups at every cough or pills at every discomfort - allow your body do what's it's designed to do..battle infections and build up immunities..but I do think we should take preventative measures when it comes to diseases and infections.

A swab of alcohol and aloe is fine for a few scrapes; I'll still take my tetanus if I put a nail through my foot, or antibiotics if I cough up green.

 

[bamberfishcake]

We also tended to die before the age of 40 pre advanced medicine; that's kind of the clincher for me

Bodies are remarkable machines and I dont think you should throw syrups at every cough or pills at every discomfort - allow your body do what's it's designed to do..battle infections and build up immunities..but I do think we should take preventative measures when it comes to diseases and infections.

A swab of alcohol and aloe is fine for a few scrapes; I'll still take my tetanus if I put a nail through my foot, or antibiotics if I cough up green.

Yes I agree. Where would we be without antibiotics? I dont know much but with antibiotics becoming less effective is there an argument to suggest they could be part of our demise in combating these illnesses. Our defiance of natural immunity means we have weakened our species, that kind of thing? Im just throwing things out there really. Its the most adaptable of species that survive and are we really adapting when medicating?Maybe another debate .

I guess it is where the flu jab sits on that spectrum of treatment for you as an individual. Dont get me wrong without modern medicine and the treatment from the staff, my boy may not have survived.

Such a hard decision for me to be honest and one i have trifled over last year and probably this.

 

[Kroffe]

Yes I agree. Where would we be without antibiotics? I dont know much but with antibiotics becoming less effective is there an argument to suggest they could be part of our demise in combating these illnesses. Our defiance of natural immunity means we have weakened our species, that kind of thing? Im just throwing things out there really. Its the most adaptable of species that survive and are we really adapting when medicating?Maybe another debate .

I guess it is where the flu jab sits on that spectrum of treatment for you as an individual. Dont get me wrong without modern medicine and the treatment from the staff, my boy may not have survived.

Such a hard decision for me to be honest and one i have trifled over last year and probably this.

People eat it like candy every time they get a sniffle.
Eat too much of it and eventually viruses will figure out ways around it.

 

[pinnit2014]

People eat it like candy every time they get a sniffle.
Eat too much of it and eventually viruses will figure out ways around it.

One of the issues is the varying attitudes towards GP dispensing there is; some are trigger happy to reach for the prescription pad, some not so much; some you go to they want to prescribe anti histamines that you can get for 23p in Boots, that probably cost the NHS 3 quid. Some crazy surgeries out there.

 

[Harry_BKK]

I'll post this without words. Make your own mind up if we wouldn't still be looking at the first map without advances in medicine and especially vaccinations.

 

[Kroffe]

I'll post this without words. Make your own mind up if we wouldn't still be looking at the first map without advances in medicine and especially vaccinations.

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I think people were just bad at living long back then.
I have lived all my life without even dying once.
Does this make me immortal?
Probably.

 

[KasinoKing]

Back to Corona quickly and regarding the UK lockdown. I agree there may be some forms of civil unrest if it continues but the question is 'will the health service collapse and deaths spiral out of control if it is lifted?'.

If the answer is no then lockdown must and will continue.

Surely you meant to say "If the answer is YES then lockdown must and will continue."

Depressing though it is, it will take YEARS to get back to something close to "normal" unless the whole world can manage to find a way to test and vaccinate 7 billion people.
The lockdown restrictions WILL be eased in order to save the economy, but the cost of that will be many more deaths from this evil virus.

On that joyful note - Happy Easter everyone!

KK

 

[bamberfishcake]

I'll post this without words. Make your own mind up if we wouldn't still be looking at the first map without advances in medicine and especially vaccinations.

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I agree this could be down to medicine but housing, education, sanitation systems, hygiene and war all play a big part also.

I wonder if the world would really be as bleak without modern medicine. Increasingly modern medicine is recognising eastern remedies whereas before they were sniffed at.

Also, the map says these historical estimates come with substantial uncertainty but interesting stuff and no doubt medicine has played a massive part in one form or another.

Historically, wer'nt the Incas ultimately wiped out by disease carried by the spaniards? I read that when they rolled up on the beaches the Inca scouts reported back there were men with 4 legs and the body of beasts. They had never seen a horse. They may have been around still if they had antibiotics

 

[bamberfishcake]

Surely you meant to say "If the answer is YES then lockdown must and will continue."

Depressing though it is, it will take YEARS to get back to something close to "normal" unless the whole world can manage to find a way to test and vaccinate 7 billion people.
The lockdown restrictions WILL be eased in order to save the economy, but the cost of that will be many more deaths from this evil virus.

On that joyful note - Happy Easter everyone!

KK

Sorry, yes you are right, i meant yes. I really should rub my eyes before posting.

 

[Harry_BKK]

I agree this could be down to medicine but housing, education, sanitation systems, hygiene and war all play a big part also.

I wonder if the world would really be as bleak without modern medicine. Increasingly modern medicine is recognising eastern remedies whereas before they were sniffed at.

Also, the map says these historical estimates come with substantial uncertainty but interesting stuff and no doubt medicine has played a massive part in one form or another.

Historically, wer'nt the Incas ultimately wiped out by disease carried by the spaniards? I read that when they rolled up on the beaches the Inca scouts reported back there were men with 4 legs and the body of beasts. They had never seen a horse. They may have been around still if they had antibiotics

Child mortality before reaching the age of 5 was around 40% in 1800. Another 20% or thereabouts were gone before they turned 20.

Sure the modern living style plays a role too. Eastern remedies as well as long-forgotten house cures our grandparents and great-grandparents used, should be and are still used but declining because nowadays people run to a doctor the soon they have a light cough.

Just imagine the difference penicillin or tetanus made!

 

[goatwack]

The ludicrousness is in full swing. In fact that's what I find the most irritating aspect of this circus, namely people's (over)-reactions

I mean I wouldn't know first-hand as I'm grounded, but I'm reliably informed that my partner was chirpily walking down the road when some old codger walked into the road in a stunning swerve as if she was Black Death personified

Shaking her head, she battled on to stage 2, whereby it became 'A battle of the queues'

Sainsbury's apparently had people about four metres apart, being the responsible citizen type of shopper

Lidl's had people about a foot apart, because life is cheap there. Proletariat riff-raff and scavengers cared little for 'rules'

Be smart. Don't go to Lidl's if you value life

 

[bamberfishcake]

The ludicrousness is in full swing. In fact that's what I find the most irritating aspect of this circus, namely people's (over)-reactions

I mean I wouldn't know first-hand as I'm grounded, but I'm reliably informed that my partner was chirpily walking down the road when some old codger walked into the road in a stunning swerve as if she was Black Death personified

Shaking her head, she battled on to stage 2, whereby it became 'A battle of the queues'

Sainsbury's apparently had people about four metres apart, being the responsible citizen type of shopper

Lidl's had people about a foot apart, because life is cheap there. Proletariat riff-raff and scavengers cared little for 'rules'

Be smart. Don't go to Lidl's if you value life

I heard waitrose shoppers get the whole store to themselves one at a time with a personal shopper - 2m apart of course.

 

[pinnit2014]

I heard waitrose shoppers get the whole store to themselves one at a time with a personal shopper - 2m apart of course.

Those Charlie Bigham lasagnes aren't going to buy themselves

Funny how, on the odd visit to Waitrose, everything appears more appealing: find myself going, 'oh, bet that gravy is nicer than Farmfoods, I'll have it' - i don't even like gravy. Even the colours look brighter.

That's until you go home and find you've spent 150quid on three nights dinners.

TBH, i wasn't even that impressed by their loos.

 

[Playford7]

I heard waitrose shoppers get the whole store to themselves one at a time with a personal shopper - 2m apart of course.

In fairness m and s is quiet. Us upmarket folk do have it well.

 

[paul7388]

Those Charlie Bigham lasagnes aren't going to buy themselves

Funny how, on the odd visit to Waitrose, everything appears more appealing: find myself going, 'oh, bet that gravy is nicer than Farmfoods, I'll have it' - i don't even like gravy. Even the colours look brighter.

That's until you go home and find you've spent 150quid on three nights dinners.

TBH, i wasn't even that impressed by their loos.

Never even knew we had a a Waitrose in Glasgow.

Will stick to my normal cheap stores tho. £150 could get me a takeaway every night for a fortnight

 

[dionysus]

edit - moved to N Korea

 

[Playford7]

Haddock x2. Lightly battered.
chips and mushy peas. Bread and butter on the side and a pint of Pepsi.
Also ketchup for dipping reasons.
The Chinese virus won’t beat me!..
All the best guys and as always wish you all the best and keep safe yada yada yada
Ben

 

[dionysus]

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[irish-ranger]

Haddock x2. Lightly battered.
chips and mushy peas. Bread and butter on the side and a pint of Pepsi.
Also ketchup for dipping reasons.
The Chinese virus won’t beat me!..
All the best guys and as always wish you all the best and keep safe yada yada yada
Ben

Was this at dinner time or bed time??

 

[sufferinsilence]

edit - moved to N Korea

Good luck in your future endeavors.

 

[bamberfishcake]

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I dont read the news much but i dont recall a British Prime Minister saying -

“I just want to thank members of the opposition for their cooperation on getting these passed right away,”

Yes I Canada!

Good Luck through these hard times!