Corona virus - Covid 19 discussion

[mack341]

Looked up then why it got its Nobel prize in particular.

"William C. Campbell and Satoshi Ōmura discovered a new drug, Avermectin, the derivatives of which have radically lowered the incidence of River Blindness and Lymphatic Filariasis, as well as showing efficacy against an expanding number of other parasitic diseases."

It doesn't say "coronavirus related diseases". It clearly got its Nobel prize for different reasons.

I don't have issues at all with drugs being tested and researched for other reasons. But in this instance there's quacks all around the world selling this drug for 10-100x the price of what they paid for it, just making a quick buck because they know there's demand for it in particular circles. Meanwhile there's people and animals who need this drug and can't get it because it's sold out...

It's so sad...just produce more, the manufacturing cost per dose is pennies. It's generic, therefore india etc..can make it freely, unlike the new patented treatments which cost nearly a thousand dollars each course iirc.

Nobody said it got the prize for covid, that point was to demonstrate it's a slightly more important drug to the world of medicine than as a horse dewormer.

 

[Jono777]

These jabs are simply GREAT!, Seriously AWESOME

Was against them at first but after serious pressure and also serious research got it done, been double jabbed for over 4 month's now, touch wood, ALL GOOD

Following my personal 'success' decided to finally make the hardest decision of my life this week and voted myself to get BOTH MY CHILDREN vaccinated, they got a little upset on the way but later said they didn't even feel their needles

Blimey, they work fast, since being jabbed they came directly home from school, got changed from their uniforms hassle free, did their homework without question, ate the tea given without the slightest moan and when I said "Right, bed time kids" I was responded to with "Ok, goodnight Dad!" instead of the usual whinge fest!

 

[dealer wins]

I think they got the wrong vaccine, and one I would be very happy to give to my child by the sound of it

 

[slotmaster]

These jabs are simply GREAT!, Seriously AWESOME

Was against them at first but after serious pressure and also serious research got it done, been double jabbed for over 4 month's now, touch wood, ALL GOOD

Following my personal 'success' decided to finally make the hardest decision of my life this week and voted myself to get BOTH MY CHILDREN vaccinated, they got a little upset on the way but later said they didn't even feel their needles

Blimey, they work fast, since being jabbed they came directly home from school, got changed from their uniforms hassle free, did their homework without question, ate the tea given without the slightest moan and when I said "Right, bed time kids" I was responded to with "Ok, goodnight Dad!" instead of the usual whinge fest!

Then you woke up from the dream! I did tell my co-worker that the actual jab is very quick even though you do feel it, it's the time you have to wait that sucks.

 

[geordiecolin]

It's so sad...just produce more, the manufacturing cost per dose is pennies. It's generic, therefore india etc..can make it freely, unlike the new patented treatments which cost nearly a thousand dollars each course iirc.

Nobody said it got the prize for covid, that point was to demonstrate it's a slightly more important drug to the world of medicine than as a horse dewormer.

Getting a hold of Ivermectin is becoming very difficult but there are alternatives that can be found in health stores quite easily-until they too are removed from market.
Ivermectin acts like the gun that fires Zink into the cells then the Zinc does its work.
EGCg works in the same way when coupled with Zinc,vit's C and D.

 

[mack341]

Getting a hold of Ivermectin is becoming very difficult but there are alternatives that can be found in health stores quite easily-until they too are removed from market.
Ivermectin acts like the gun that fires Zink into the cells then the Zinc does its work.
EGCg works in the same way when coupled with Zinc,vit's C and D.

Going to buy enough vit d shortly to last till march, get some zinq lozenges as well. I don't want to end up the subject of an msm article, saying i regret listening to anti vaxxers!?

The european medical agency has now linked the AZ to guillain barre syndrome, ours hasn't despite 300 odd cases and 2 deaths. I can't see how they could ever mandate the AZ.

I'm sure many of those that died of covid, and received no therapeutic, would have liked the option of HQC or ivermectin rather than left to sit at home as the virus took hold. Absolute disgrace it was forbidden.

 

[geordiecolin]

Going to buy enough vit d shortly to last till march, get some zinq lozenges as well. I don't want to end up the subject of an msm article, saying i regret listening to anti vaxxers!?

The european medical agency has now linked the AZ to guillain barre syndrome, ours hasn't despite 300 odd cases and 2 deaths. I can't see how they could ever mandate the AZ.

I'm sure many of those that died of covid, and received no therapeutic, would have liked the option of HQC or ivermectin rather than left to sit at home as the virus took hold. Absolute disgrace it was forbidden.

I bought a huge bag of Vit C powder over a year ago that I think I have used twice and I think is out of date because I've kept up with the natural sources
I listen to both sides and reject a lot of it. There is so much crap from both sides.This is true for me on much more than just the covid issue.
The main thing for me in posting the things to use if you contract covid is the same as I posted about the best things to take maybe 16 months ago- To encourage folk to prepare themselves.
Governments,the media, and the medical industry never have.

 

[mack341]

I bought a huge bag of Vit C powder over a year ago that I think I have used twice and I think is out of date because I've kept up with the natural sources
I listen to both sides and reject a lot of it. There is so much crap from both sides.This is true for me on much more than just the covid issue.
The main thing for me in posting the things to use if you contract covid is the same as I posted about the best things to take maybe 16 months ago- To encourage folk to prepare themselves.
Governments,the media, and the medical industry never have.

I haven't delved massively into the potential supplements for covid, natural source is probably best if you can integrate it into meals. Flu may be more prevalent this winter, out of the two flu worries me more. They're talking about making a flu jab using mRNA rather than the traditional method, it's cheaper to mass produce but is it better.

 

[paul7388]

Oh well guess we now have to prove we are vaccinated to go to football or a nightclub.

Can be riddled with covid and attend thats fine. No vaccinated passport no entrance tho lol.

Thank you Sturgeon. Just days after your latest independence crap you made the best decision of your life. I would say any chances of gaining independence died when you proved you are nothing short of a fascist leader . Enjoy your mini dictatorship and power while it lasts. You just pissed of most of your voters especially the youth.

 

[mack341]

I read that she's been thinking about covid passports for a long time, surprise surprise not. The scottish labour leader, anwar or something is his name, made some good points but she just ignored them, and assumed her normal superior, holier than thou tone.

 

[paul7388]

I read that she's been thinking about covid passports for a long time, surprise surprise not. The scottish labour leader, anwar or something is his name, made some good points but she just ignored them, and assumed her normal superior, holier than thou tone.

Yeah the powers going to her head.

Basically only reason she is going for them is to force younger people to get vaccine if they want a life.

See thing is i could maybe go okay have passports if it is for everything. But fact pubs etc. Do not need them and it is only for dancings and basically football matches is a farce . And you do not need to even show you do not have covid only that you have a passport is a joke. Especially when vaccinated still spread it . Would have thought negative test was more important.

But it was good to see that the green party who are totally against it voted for it as expected. Which shows basically their principles mean nothing.

And to make matters worse she has no clue on how the passport will work and has not discussed it with businesses. Look forward to seeing the shambles as they try to check 50,000 fans going to football for their passports.

But all good as for a lot of SNP voters this has actually been the wake up call what their beloved leader is actually like.

Even if only a small percentage of her voters stand by their word they will never vote for her again her dream will be dead.

Waiting to see how it all pans out as believe some are now going to finally take the legal route about what she has done.

 

[mack341]

I wonder how many votes the snp got during the 80's, I suppose it was new labour's creation of devolved parliaments that super charged her party to dominance, and then they can misuse the power to further their agenda. I've some Scottish lineage myself so not biased against them at all, but keep the uk united, stronger together surely. Britain is one island afterall. At what point will sturgeon ever be happy, wants to gain full independence only to then seek orders from the eu

 

[mack341]

Seeding the idea/plan into the public's minds again, so they'll more likely accept it:

Sky news- COVID-19: Extension to use of vaccine passports will be looked at if there is a 'public health need', Oliver Dowden says

 

[geordiecolin]

I haven't delved massively into the potential supplements for covid, natural source is probably best if you can integrate it into meals. Flu may be more prevalent this winter, out of the two flu worries me more. They're talking about making a flu jab using mRNA rather than the traditional method, it's cheaper to mass produce but is it better.

I think it has been criminal that so little has been spoken about preventatives and early self care. So many died needlessly due to stay at home until your lips go blue .By then for many it is too late given the hospitalization protocol's.
I also have a water purifier that could be very helpful. Just like orange man touted in his reference to drinking bleach

 

[bamberfishcake]

I heard the main problem with Ivermectin was that the politicians and pharma's couldnt make billions out of it.

Just from the minuscule amount of research I have read, it's much more than a dewormer.

The pharmas dont want a wonderdrug. Look at the money they make from treatments.

 

[mack341]

This portuguese judge has got a moral sense of duty, can see his inner rage:

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[geordiecolin]

I heard the main problem with Ivermectin was that the politicians and pharma's couldnt make billions out of it.

Just from the minuscule amount of research I have read, it's much more than a dewormer.

The pharmas dont want a wonderdrug. Look at the money they make from treatments.

I must look up this Joe Rogan because he obviously upsets the narrative on getting vaccinated. It constantly amazes me that folk suck up the narrative from the media and big tech and still think it is a horse drug. One thing I do not believe from the below vid is that the Taliban is rounding up American citizens as hostages or whatever he said. At least not for now.

It is interesting to note that Fauchi was presented with recent evidence that those who have had covid already are much more unlikely to get it again without getting vaxed than those who get endless jabs stumbling and refusing to admit it was true ( I'm ignoring the fact that more conclusive evidence has appeared recently that Fauchi did fund gain of research in China but yet again it was ignored by the media)
I have been to a Rumours of Fleetwood Mac concert tonight attended by thousands and I was not asked for any covid proof's and the amount of masks could be counted on one hand-other than the staff
I fear that this will not last much longer. Once the mandated jab date arrives for the NHS and care workers kicks in we will need to call a taxi to hospital because even Ambulance drivers and crew will be in short supply when they lose their jobs and again your lips will have to be blue before you get admitted to have the same protocol as before. That is before you see the lack of docs,nurses and staff at the hospital you get too.
It is utter madness.

 

[mack341]

Don't know what to think of this if true, perhaps the pass will be easier to bring in after a bad covid winter, whereas if he brings it in now and we have a bad winter case wise, then that undermines the 'passport' logic. Also a 50 mp tory rebellion doesn't help him, esp if labour mps get a free vote, it needs a healthy majority of hoc backing it to give it the consensus/legitimacy.

 

[Kroffe]

Don't know what to think of this if true, perhaps the pass will be easier to bring in after a bad covid winter, whereas if he brings it in now and we have a bad winter case wise, then that undermines the 'passport' logic. Also a 50 mp tory rebellion doesn't help him, esp if labour mps get a free vote, it needs a healthy majority of hoc backing it to give it the consensus/legitimacy.

So what looks like good news is actually just a set up for future bad news?
Must be exhausting being so positivie all the time.

 

[Kroffe]

Its weird how being postitive does not get mentioned what with all the alternative treatments that gets suggested in here.
Maybe something to think about for all the people that are just doom and gloom about everything, you may be doing yourself a disservice.

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[geordiecolin]

Don't know what to think of this if true, perhaps the pass will be easier to bring in after a bad covid winter, whereas if he brings it in now and we have a bad winter case wise, then that undermines the 'passport' logic. Also a 50 mp tory rebellion doesn't help him, esp if labour mps get a free vote, it needs a healthy majority of hoc backing it to give it the consensus/legitimacy.

Timing is everything

 

[mack341]

Its weird how being postitive does not get mentioned what with all the alternative treatments that gets suggested in here.
Maybe something to think about for all the people that are just doom and gloom about everything, you may be doing yourself a disservice.

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You wanna direct that at the msm, sage etc...delaying the domestic use passports because they were going to fall on their arse is not good news, scrapping totally yes that would be.

 

[Kroffe]

You wanna direct that at the msm, sage etc...delaying the domestic use passports because they were going to fall on their arse is not good news, scrapping totally yes that would be.

You choose to believe what you want to believe.
But if you think MSM are the only ones spreading negativity you should take another look at this thread.

 

[electronictonic]

India has capital punishment.

India charges WHO Scientist Soumya Swaminathan for Mass Murder: The beginning of Accountability
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“That your misleading tweet on May 10, 2021, against the use of Ivermectin had the effect of the State of Tamil Nadu withdrawing Ivermectin from the protocol on May 11, 2021, just a day after the Tamil Nadu government had indicated the same for the treatment of COVID-19 patients.


Specific charges:
- running a disinformation campaign against Ivermectin
- issuing statements in social and mainstream media to wrongfully influence the public against the use of Ivermectin
-suppressing knowledge of large amounts of clinical data showing its profound effectiveness in both prevention and treatment of COVID-19.


Acting for the Indian Bar Association, Dipali Ojha said the WHO official is accused of misconduct because she used her position as a public health official to further the agenda of special interests to maintain an Emergency Use Authorization for the lucrative vaccine industry.

 

[mack341]

You choose to believe what you want to believe.
But if you think MSM are the only ones spreading negativity, you should take another look at this thread.

' I try to think for myself ' is a more accurate description. Countering msm narrative, which is being force fed to the public, is difficult if you tend to believe and agree with it.

I don't know what swedish media is like, whether your govts and media try to control your thinking on topics everyday, it's like a battering ram in the uk, the only way of escape is to switch it off. However you can't ignore what is going on for long.

And in fact I could post a lot more negative stuff, e.g. Vaccine injury accounts. I try to be positive regarding ivermectin and Hcq and it's sometimes met with negativity, fuelled by msm narrative believers.