Club World - wagering requirements doubled, trebled quadrupled

chuchu59

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Getting a bit touchy since being awaken by that jerk from Gaming Club.

Now I am a regular taker of the ALLGAMES55 bonus at CWC and Lucky RED. Tons of deposits and cashing out regularly though not too profitable. Just plenty of playtime for slots and table games. In the past table games eg BJ,Baccarat contributed 0.6 to the dollar whereas Paigow Poker, Carribean Stud and slots contributed 1:1.Acouple of months ago this changed with BJ contributing 0.5 to the dollar and PG and stud contributing 0.75 to the dollar. Well ok still plenty of playtime and still doable. Just today I tried it again at CWC and discovered that the WRs didn't drop much despite furious play. I went to the cashier and noticed that most table games now contribute 0.25 to the dollar and some as low as 0.15 to the dollar. So it pays to always check the details of the coupon even if the coupon codes are similar or even the same. Slotocash tried to pull a fast one and this time its CWC. Once bonuses are taken wagering requirements may be very high so beware.
 

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Getting a bit touchy since being awaken by that jerk from Gaming Club.

Now I am a regular taker of the ALLGAMES55 bonus at CWC and Lucky RED. Tons of deposits and cashing out regularly though not too profitable. Just plenty of playtime for slots and table games. In the past table games eg BJ,Baccarat contributed 0.6 to the dollar whereas Paigow Poker, Carribean Stud and slots contributed 1:1.Acouple of months ago this changed with BJ contributing 0.5 to the dollar and PG and stud contributing 0.75 to the dollar. Well ok still plenty of playtime and still doable. Just today I tried it again at CWC and discovered that the WRs didn't drop much despite furious play. I went to the cashier and noticed that most table games now contribute 0.25 to the dollar and some as low as 0.15 to the dollar. So it pays to always check the details of the coupon even if the coupon codes are similar or even the same. Slotocash tried to pull a fast one and this time its CWC. Once bonuses are taken wagering requirements may be very high so beware.

This is linked (I believe) to your Bellerock thread. It seems the market is saturated to be honest. Add to that a quieter time of year, and the recession, it would appear there are too many mouths for the food in the trough. Offers seem desperate. Others, as you've shown, are surreptitiously shaved down. I wonder if the fast-paying sites are suffering as much as the pending-poopers?
 

chuchu59

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I am also pretty certain the contribution to wrs changed in the midst of my playing. Remaining wrs seemed normal when I reached the 3 quarters mark but suddenly the playthrough seemed to freeze. This was accompanied by a sudden upgrade to the games and I was forced to logout. I believe that they changed the details of the coupon whilst I was playing. The code remains the same but details are hugely different.
 

Jasminebed

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I usually enter the coupon code BEFORE making my deposit. This will show the terms and the weightings etc.

It's not so much to check the terms, I read those already. But to make sure the code works.

I've never screenshotted them however... it's pretty shoddy if it changed mid-play.
 

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I am also pretty certain the contribution to wrs changed in the midst of my playing. Remaining wrs seemed normal when I reached the 3 quarters mark but suddenly the playthrough seemed to freeze. This was accompanied by a sudden upgrade to the games and I was forced to logout. I believe that they changed the details of the coupon whilst I was playing. The code remains the same but details are hugely different.

I guess you came out ahead seeing you got 3/4 at the better wr. Had you decided to play later on as soon as you launched I imagine it would have started the update all with the new wr values.
 

cabrerjc

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Same here

I signed in to CM today, specifically wondering about this same thing. I had taken a coupon at Lucky Red and began playing for a bit (Blackjack) when all of a sudden something weird happened. Mid-deal the casino stuttered and went back to the main menu. It said I still had a pending game, and luckily didn't lose my bet. But I did notice that for Blackjack it was .15 for every $1 bet...whereas it usually is either .50 to $1 per $1...depending on the coupon. I thought maybe I was being punished for wagering too high, or too fast, or using too many coupons. I probably wouldn't have used the coupon if I would have known it was such a long playthrough. Luckily I managed to finish and was ahead for the night, but if this is the regular terms then I doubt I'll use a coupon again.

Anybody else notice this at any CWG Casinos?
 

chuchu59

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Frankly using the same continuous coupon code albeit different wrs depending on when it was redeemed is bad enough as players wont check them every time its used but when they change it in the midst of play its poor form indeed and just not up to the billing of an accredited casino.
 

vinylweatherman

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I am also pretty certain the contribution to wrs changed in the midst of my playing. Remaining wrs seemed normal when I reached the 3 quarters mark but suddenly the playthrough seemed to freeze. This was accompanied by a sudden upgrade to the games and I was forced to logout. I believe that they changed the details of the coupon whilst I was playing. The code remains the same but details are hugely different.

This seems to happen a great deal at RTG, and they are rather secretive about what is being updated. It seems these updates ARE sometimes doing something that some might think is underhand, in this case changing the terms of a promotion and making it retrospective. I believe a retrospective change is in breach of the standards for accreditation.

Some feel that these frequent RTG lobby updates are down to the RTPs getting changed on some of the games, something we know that operators can do, and has since been proven to have happened with the slot "Fruit Frenzy".

It appears that rather than mess with the RTP setting, CW are changing the wagering rules on promotions, but it should not be retrospective. I sure it can be done on a per coupon basis, so all they would surely need to do is discontinue a regular coupon for new deposits, and substitute for one with updated game weightings.
 
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