Casinos closing and No US players

[BigBill]

Well the list gets longer:

Monthly Bonus Casinos not accepting US players:

Littlewoods
Sports Cafe
William Hill

Closing: Cowboy Casino

Any others?

 

[Simmo!]

It'll mostly be casinos who are affiliated with sportsbooks you'll find - they need to protect their execs in all areas of the business in light of the US oppression. There have been two exceptions (Ritz and Jackpot Joy), but one is now open again and one is a temporary closure.

 

[KasinoKing]

Any others?

Monthly Bonus Casinos not accepting US players:

Littlewoods
Sports Cafe - scrapped their monthly.
William Hill
Also:
Total Bet
Virgin

Stopped taking USA players:-
Purple Lounge
BetDirect

More are bound to follow...

 

[The Watchdog]

Nice thread

There should be a thread made with updates ...

Providing info of which urls are been blocked, which casinos are closing... and such related info after this moronic bill passed

 

[Simmo!]

There should be a thread made with updates ...

Probably no need. Just write off all the UK bookmakers and UK based operations and you'll have your list

 

[The Watchdog]

true...

I am sure that bet365 and pinnacle are still taking US action...

Pretty positive about that..

Dont know about 32red...

 

[Rangeral]

Not bet 365

Bet365 has to be my favorite casino so far. I like playing live BJ and have won some and lost more, but when I do win, my money is in my netteller in a matter of four, may be five hours max. I hope they don't scrap out US players.

 

[frufrugirl]

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No more bonuses for Us Players.............this is soooo sad!!!

 

[aka23]

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No more bonuses for Us Players.............this is soooo sad!!!

I am from the US and played the October monthly bonus without issue a few hours ago.

 

[SlotsWizard]

You may have been one of the last ones to enjoy it then.

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[aka23]

I see Intercasino's partner VIP Casino also has that statement about US players. I hope there are no issues with my withdrawl of the bonus $.

 

[paul02085]

Wow. This is just the start folks. I have resigned myself to the fact it is over for me. Oh well, i guess maybe i need to get off my b.tt and get outside more anyway. It has been a great ride. I will still keep coming here (if i am not blocked) just to keep up with the industry.

Very sad.

 

[dirk_dangerous]

Hey, let's all look at the bright side, we will all have the chance to watch these scum ridden casinos suffer huge financial losses.

Oh, and thanks online casinos; I've made a lot of money hustling your bonuses.

LoL

 

[SlotsWizard]

Hey, let's all look at the bright side, we will all have the chance to watch these scum ridden casinos suffer huge financial losses.

I think it could go either way. The good folks will pull out of the U.S. market because they want to protect their asse(t)s.

But the slimy scumballs will probably come up with new ways to bilk U.S. customers out of their money, such as the "phantom book" and "invisible apple" schemes mentioned here and at other forums. And if these guys are the only ones left that are willing to accept U.S. customers then they'll probably remain successful.

Or, they could just wither and die which is what we would all like for them to do anyway. Then if/when the industry becomes regulated in the US the good guys can come back, and they'll have many more years of experience with the online world than the big LV/AC names will.

 

[RobWin]

You may have been one of the last ones to enjoy it then.

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So let me get this straight, we can still deposit and play at VIP and Intercasino but we just can no longer take a bonus

 

[jetset]

But the slimy scumballs will probably come up with new ways to bilk U.S. customers out of their money, such as the "phantom book" and "invisible apple" schemes mentioned here and at other forums. And if these guys are the only ones left that are willing to accept U.S. customers then they'll probably remain successful.QUOTE]

Unfortunately, official prohibition always seems to drive an issue underground, opening the way for the crooks of this world to circumvent the law involved and rip off the unprotected *consumer*in the process.

In a way, that's what happened in the past in some sectors of the industry, thanks to US enforcement and legislative policies that have compelled even decent operators to set up offshore, sometimes in barely regulated jurisdictions that are more interested in licensing revenues than genuine regulation and could not give a damn about the player.

Many of the top companies in the industry have been pointing this out to the US authorities and political establishment for years, explaining the more positive alternative of regulated and taxed online gaming within the States which would encourage adequately funded and professional gambling groups - including the big US land gambling names - to operate openly and in a controlled American environment that excludes the dubious and would be safer and more appealing to the millions of online gamblers in the States.

But the American player and his or her wishes seem to be the least thing that the politicians care about. These approaches have been ignored time and time again, and instead we see hypocritical carve-outs for vested interests, political wheeling and dealing on a grand scale for the *moral vote* or commercial protectionism and unsubstantiated accusations of criminal conduct by the industry in general from badly informed politicians.

Capping that, there is the frustration of watching a strange (some would say twisted) political process whereby sharp politicians can make "attachments" to totally unrelated bills in covert moves that apparently cancel out any democratic requirement that a Bill be debated and voted on its individual and specific merits.

The cherry on the top is a state and federal enforcement system that is apparently a law unto itself and seems to rely increasingly on scare tactics rather than the letter of the law and the authority of the courts to interpret it.

I get the feeling that both politicians and enforcement officials are playing fast and loose with the real laws of the land here, exploiting the confusing legal climate concerning Internet activities to the full.

The demand of so many Americans for legal online gambling cannot be long denied imo, and the business possibilities flowing from that demand will not have escaped the attention of the big US land gambling groups and their influence in US politics. For those reasons alone I do not believe online gambling will remain *illegal* for Americans indefinitely.

In the meantime I think players need to continue to make their voices heard by their political representatives, perhaps through organised bodies like the PPA and NROG and the media. Don't let your *leaders* forget that there is a large body of US citizens who demand a legitimate right to enjoy safe and fair gambling using modern technologies.

IMO US players are being shafted by political expediency here - let the politicians know how little you are impressed by their efforts on your behalf!

 

[rma20]

Quick question...I really only play at bodog and spin palace. Do you think either one of these will block US customers?

 

[The Dude]

So let me get this straight, we can still deposit and play at VIP and Intercasino but we just can no longer take a bonus

This is true - no bonus, but that might be a good thing since you have no worries about wagering requirements. I play there often - mostly without the bonus, since I find it constricts my playing style.

 

[The Dude]

Quick question...I really only play at bodog and spin palace. Do you think either one of these will block US customers?

I would say that most casino groups will be coming out with a statement for players in the next couple of days. There is a lot of unhealthy panicking right now. For many casinos it's business as usual. Nothing is going to happen (if the law is signed) for months.

 

[footdr]

Intercasino

I noticed from the posts that some players were able to receive their bonuses. I started trying 12.01am. l0/1. Only got an error message that promotion had not started or I was not entitled. Since I knew that I was entitled I assumed it had not started. No where in the error message or in the software did it say NO bonus U.S. players.

This is what I just posted in the bonus Forum:

I tried to claim the bonus EARLY 10/1/06. I kept getting an error message that said nothing about the ban on US players. I finally phoned support and was told no bonuses for US players. I asked at what time they posted the notice and was told 5 hours ago which would have been 9:35p.m. CST US. Oct. 1

I had already been playing on the web site prior to the notice being posted on the casino web page. There was no notice posted in the casino software.

I have played at the casino over 1 year. Rarely have claimed the bonus, maybe once.

I asked if I would still be receiving comp points they did not know . They promised to email me an answer in 2 hours. SO BEWARE if you are counting on that extra money once a month to help cover losses!

Also, I asked what prompted the ban. Support replied they were not at liberty to say. WHY NOT????? Maybe Casinomeister knows. He handles the casinos Disputes.

I don't think they handled this very well. Perhaps it would have been better to notify players that October was the last month we would get bonuses. Unless, they are planning to ban play totally. In that case, the bonus should be banned at that time. They are still letting us play so they can make money up until the point we can no longer legally play but don't want to reward us for past or continued loyalty. The government didnt pass a no bonus law. I am giving them no further money. If they can not provide an acceptable explanation to their loyal players.

 

[twilasue]

I was thinking of playing a new casino tonight, so I had a VIP Casino lying around, thought I'd check here before actually playing of course, but I had started the installation.

Got no further than the T&C's, when I read this (and this cd came before the bill's passing) I stopped cold.

VIP Casino License Agreement


"1.3 The Games are only available to you if the use of the Games is permitted in the Local Jurisdiction. CMC does not intend that anyone should use the Games where such use is illegal. The availability of the Games does not constitute an offer or invitation by CMC to use the Games in any country in which such use is illegal. Use of the Games and participation therein is void wherever prohibited by any applicable law. YOU ACCEPT SOLE RESPONSIBILITY FOR DETERMINING WHETHER YOUR USE OF THE GAMES IS LEGAL IN THE LOCAL JURISDICTION. If your use of the Games is illegal you will not be entitled to collect any winnings and the Service Providers reserve the right to recover any winnings already received by you and/or by anyone acting on your behalf and to report you to the relevant authorities."

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reserve the right to recover any winnings already received by you and/or by anyone acting on your behalf and to report you to the relevant authorites​

Damn, it isn't bad enough are own gov't is screwing us left & right we got to look out for people from other countries handing us over to them too now...

Let's make sure and read those t&c's reallllly carefully now....

Thanks for all the updates, btw.

 

[Simmo!]

The list of "Casinos No Longer Accepting US Players" has been moved to it's own thread:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/casinos-with-us-player-restrictions.14494/

 

[dominique]

You can add the Palace group, but I talked to Betfred and they knew nothing about it, they are open.

 

[frufrugirl]

I am from the US and played the October monthly bonus without issue a few hours ago.

As the "last" USA forum member to play the October InterCasino Bonus, we entrust you with the offical honor of being the "Keeper of the Bonus Memory." We hope that you take this honor seriously and pray that you will share with us the thrill received at cashout!:notworthy
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[LooneyTunez]

I'm a little nervous!

I claimed the bonus about 5 minutes after midnight on the 1st, and it was accepted. I got extremely lucky early in my wagering, and hit the Marvel Hero Jackpot (playing the Hulk) and won about $8000. I continued to play as normal to meet my playthrough and made a withdrawal for $8000 at 5am. Usually my withdrawals with Intercasino take about a day to get back to my Neteller account, but it hasn't shown up yet. I just called support, and they assured me that the new policy will not affect my winnings, and that it can take up to 3 days to process the withdrawal. So, here's hoping all goes well, and the money gets to Neteller in the next day or so...I will immediately withdraw it all from Neteller as well...just to be on the safe side.

 

[greedygirl]

You can add the Palace group, but I talked to Betfred and they knew nothing about it, they are open.

Unless I've completely lost it, my understanding is that Palace Group are taking a "wait and see" (sensible) approach:

Fairground Gaming Holdings plc

Statement regarding US legislation developments

The Board of Fairground Gaming Holdings plc (Fairground) makes the following statement in light of the passing by the United States Congress on 30 September 2006, of The Safe Port Act, which included the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (the Act).

Fairground notes the developments in the USA and is seeking clarity on the full implications of the Act. If so advised, the board will suspend participation by US based customers in activities covered by the legislation. In the six months to 30 June 2006, revenues from US players amounted to approximately 70 per cent of the Groups net gaming revenues.

Whilst continuing to monitor the situation, Fairground intends to proceed with appropriate caution in evaluating opportunities for further geographical diversification.

Nowhere does it say US players have been cut off at this point.

 

[spearmaster]

Agree with GreedyGirl.

She's pointing out exactly what I pointed out in another thread - that they are *suspending* participation until they receive full clarity on the implications of the new legislation.

None of these groups has said "Bye-bye, see ya later, alligator, thanks for the good times" or anything remotely close to it.

Furthermore, the media is magnifying the problem by calling the legislation "a ban" or "making online gambling illegal" when in fact the legislation only prohibits US financial institutions from transferring funds to online gambling sites.

It's still early days yet - not only has Dubya not yet signed (even if that is a foregone conclusion) - there's 270 days in which financial institutions must be given instructions on how to comply with this new legislation - and consequently, 270 days in which the operators have time to assess the full impact and implications of the new legislation.

 

[Simmo!]

You can add the Palace group, but I talked to Betfred and they knew nothing about it, they are open.

BetFred have never taken US players have they?

It's still early days yet - not only has Dubya not yet signed (even if that is a foregone conclusion) - there's 270 days in which financial institutions must be given instructions on how to comply with this new legislation - and consequently, 270 days in which the operators have time to assess the full impact and implications of the new legislation.

I'm a tad confused here. Just to clarify, when the Boss signs the paper, it becomes law with immediate effect doesn't it? the 270 days thing is purely to put the mechanisms in to track, implicate and comply? Am I right?

 

[Webzcas]

BetFred have never taken US players have they?

I do not believe so, no.

As for the Palace Group, I spoke on the phone with Tom Furber at Wagershare yesterday and he confirmed that the Palace Group have as of yet not taken a decision. They are still therefore accepting US Players at this moment in time.

 

[Mousey]

I do not believe so, no.

As for the Palace Group, I spoke on the phone with Tom Furber at Wagershare yesterday and he confirmed that the Palace Group have as of yet not taken a decision. They are still therefore accepting US Players at this moment in time.

I played at Mummy's gold (part of Palace Group) last night. Had a nice long (for me) play on slots. Came out ahead, actually cleared my bonus, and cashed out $150 to NETeller. I really hated to cash out as the slots were still friendly, but I know me, if I'd left it in there, I'd have lost it all this morning.

I figure I'll keep moving money between NEteller and the casinos just like always till someone shuts all the doors on me. Then I'll ask for whatever money is out there to be sent to me via check.

 

[The Dude]

I would appreciate it if members post information that is factual and not hearsay concerning "bannings" of US players. If a casino makes a statement that they have discontinued taking US players - please post the statement here. Thanks!

 

[paul02085]

I played at BetFred's poker room so it is/was ok for US players a few months ago. Dont know about now.

I feel like a red headed danish stepchild these days.

 

[paul1]

Hey check this link. I used to set this as my home page in my browser. I just thought their site was down for a couple days. Then I actually looked at it. Oh brother!

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This sux.

 

[silcnlayc]

SlotCharts is currently unavailable
This site has been temporarily disabled due to the changing legal situation in the US.

Once the ramifications of the new legislation are fully understood, I hope to be able to return this site to service.

Please accept my apologies for the actions of our idiotic government officials.

geezes....

 

[Westland Bowl]

BetFred have never taken US players have they?

They've always taken US players. They've taken too much of my money too!

I'm a tad confused here. Just to clarify, when the Boss signs the paper, it becomes law with immediate effect doesn't it? the 270 days thing is purely to put the mechanisms in to track, implicate and comply? Am I right?

It takes effect July 2007. Spearmaster posted this earlier in this or some other thread Old / Expired Link or the same thing in a more readable format

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I believe everyone should read Professor Rose's analysis in the links I just provided.

 

[dominique]

BetFred have never taken US players have they?

They sure do in casino and poker, but not sports.

The casino rewards group is going to accept players but restricting some US states.

The Golden reef etc group is taking US players.

I have more but do not want to jump the gun until official anouncements are out, like I did with the palace group. My apologies there.

 

[ciraman]

Just received this from BetFred:

Dear XXXXX,

The account information that you have registered with Betfred lists you as residing in the United States of America.

Please be advised that, following the recent legislation, Betfred has regretfully had to take the decision not to accept any business through our website or call centre from any US citizen.

All Betfred accounts which we believe originate in the USA will be closed with immediate effect.

If you currently have funds with Betfred, we would be grateful if you would contact our Accounts department ([email protected]) to arrange for the balance to be repaid. Should you have any questions you can also contact our customer service team on 1-800 780 9364.

On behalf of Betfred, we would like to apologise for this inconvenience and thank you for your previous custom.

Kind regards

The Betfred Customer Service Team.

 

[Simmo!]

They've always taken US players. They've taken too much of my money too!

Not any more then it seems (predictably)

Although we knew about Crypto, here's some clarification from Peak. (See last paragraph too)

I'm sure you're aware of the recent developments in US online
gaming industry. In short, the US government has passed a law
that would prohibit banks, credit card companies, and other
financial institutions from processing gambling funds. This
controversial act was attached to a popular and completely
unrelated bill regarding Port Security early Saturday morning.
In this way, the act was passed because representatives were more
concerned with the major bill being made law and knew only in the
final minutes of the attachment.

It does not make it illegal for US citizens to play online, however
drastically affects your ability to enjoy your favorite poker and
casino games by making it difficult to send and receive your
deposits and winnings.

In light of these events, our software and ECash provider for
Sunpoker.com, The Sands (www.cscasino.com) and Omni Casino,
CryptoLogic and ECashDirect, have made the decision to no longer
service US registered accounts.

Consequently, all accounts with US based addresses will no longer
be able to play in the casino or poker room as of 12PM EST today
October 3rd.

Players will however be able to log into their accounts and request
a withdrawal of their available balance.

All other accounts with non US based addresses will remain
unaffected.

Currently it is unclear as to the longer term ramifications of
these events at CryptoLogic and should the position change, we
will notify you.

Our sister casino 49er Casino (

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) uses
a different provider, Real Time Gaming (RTG) who has not announced
any changes due to these new regulations.

Persons from all geographical areas are still able to register
new accounts, collect the 100% new player and other bonuses,
and continue to enjoy their favorite casino games. The preferred
deposit method is with NETeller.


www.SunPoker.com
www.OmniCasino.com
www.CSCasino.com

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- NEW!


PS: We continue to maintain that it is your individual right to be
allowed to play online responsibly in another form you see fit. We
therefore invite you to contact your Congressman (or woman) to
express your dismay as to not only the bill itself, but as to the
underhanded way in which it was passed.

 

[Peaceful1]

I got that email too (from Peak/Omni). However, here's my question (also posted in the H.R. 4777 thread but putting it here too since its relevant and may catch other eyes to get opinions on it).

I cashed out with Intercasino, which also uses ECash. I was out of town (at a B&M casino, go figure). It was delivered yesterday and sent to my leasing office since I was not here. Question: Should this still be OK to cash? I won the money BEFORE this law came into play (not in effect yet mind you) but before all the hoopla and the email about ECash. I requested the withdrawal which was approved by ECash before this law was approved by members of Congress. I will still pick this check up and try to deposit/cash it, but if any problems arise, this raises an interesting question and perhaps "legal loopholes" because of when it was requested and when this email was sent out (more of a question on ECash's side since this is technically not a law signed off by the Pres. yet nor in effect).

Any thoughts are appreciated.

 

[Simmo!]

I got that email too (from Peak/Omni). However, here's my question (also posted in the H.R. 4777 thread but putting it here too since its relevant and may catch other eyes to get opinions on it).

I cashed out with Intercasino, which also uses ECash. I was out of town (at a B&M casino, go figure). It was delivered yesterday and sent to my leasing office since I was not here. Question: Should this still be OK to cash? I won the money BEFORE this law came into play (not in effect yet mind you) but before all the hoopla and the email about ECash. I requested the withdrawal which was approved by ECash before this law was approved by members of Congress. I will still pick this check up and try to deposit/cash it, but if any problems arise, this raises an interesting question and perhaps "legal loopholes" because of when it was requested and when this email was sent out (more of a question on ECash's side since this is technically not a law signed off by the Pres. yet nor in effect).

Any thoughts are appreciated.

As you say it's not law yet, so should be fine. Additionally, it sounds like the banks won't have the mechanisms in place to check it anway. And finally, the concensus appears to be that checks cashed BY casinos are the problem, not FROM casinos (or eCash providers). Its "funding" of online gambling that seems to be the key phrase it would appear.

 

[Peaceful1]

Players will however be able to log into their accounts and request
a withdrawal of their available balance.

Sorry.. I guess this answers my own question. Guess I didn't think about it since it wasn't a withdrawal requested as a result of this thing with Frist..but just a normal happy cashout, which was my first and last because of this whole thing

 

[mgibson99]

I am SO bummed. I have been playing almost exclusively at Omni for years. Had a great relationship with their VIP Manager Daryl, and he always took very good care of me. Just last week he scored me a couple of tickets for the upcoming Redskins/Cowboys football game (which are currently being sold on the ticket broker sites for $250 each and up).

As a big deposit player, I don't see how I can play anywhere until this whole thing shakes out and becomes clearer. Its one thing to deposit $100 and find out you lost it because the casino froze all U.S. accounts. Its quite another to lose a $5000 deposit (which is what I had been depositing at Omni recently).

Guess I'm stuck with the B&M casinos for now. Fortunately I'm a VIP for Harrah's, so I'm set in Las Vegas and Atlantic City.

 

[ryan_hartley]

INTERCASINO BONUS ANNOUCEMENT REGARDING US PLAYERS

So let me get this straight, we can still deposit and play at VIP and Intercasino but we just can no longer take a bonus

Due to the imminent passing of the Federal Unlawful Gambling Enforcement Act on September 30th 2006, InterCasino are no longer accepting wagers from residents in the United States. We regret to inform you that from 11am EST on 3rd October, 2006, we will be closing all US gaming accounts.

However, please rest assured that we will give back the remaining balance to all our US players, minus any uncleared bonuses. This will be done by check in the next 3 to 4 weeks.

I would also like to explain why we stopped US players from receiving their bonuses on Sunday afternoon. We felt strongly that it would be unfair for US players to obtain a bonus only to be told they could not play two days later. It is for this reason that we felt it was the right thing to do, to stop bonus payments to players in the US and most importantly to tell all our players immediately.

We apologize for any inconvenience and express our sincere thanks for your continued support.

Yours truly,



Ryan Hartley
Casino Manager

 

[jetset]

I got that email too (from Peak/Omni). However, here's my question (also posted in the H.R. 4777 thread but putting it here too since its relevant and may catch other eyes to get opinions on it).

I cashed out with Intercasino, which also uses ECash. I was out of town (at a B&M casino, go figure). It was delivered yesterday and sent to my leasing office since I was not here. Question: Should this still be OK to cash? I won the money BEFORE this law came into play (not in effect yet mind you) but before all the hoopla and the email about ECash. I requested the withdrawal which was approved by ECash before this law was approved by members of Congress. I will still pick this check up and try to deposit/cash it, but if any problems arise, this raises an interesting question and perhaps "legal loopholes" because of when it was requested and when this email was sent out (more of a question on ECash's side since this is technically not a law signed off by the Pres. yet nor in effect).

Any thoughts are appreciated.

I agree with Simmo's assessment, Cynthia - you should be fine.

 

[Weedlayer]

Spin Palace Closure

I have just been notified that my Spin Palace account has been closed due to the recent legislation. I am so depressed and angry.

 

[spearmaster]

Hey check this link. I used to set this as my home page in my browser. I just thought their site was down for a couple days. Then I actually looked at it. Oh brother!

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This sux.

Ouch...

I feel sorry for Slotcharts, as he's based in the US.

In the meantime, Awesome Jackpots (see my signature) is still operational, and right now I see no reason to take it down.

 

[soflat]

I have just been notified that my Spin Palace account has been closed due to the recent legislation. I am so depressed and angry.

Wow. Glad I did the withdrawal thing yesterday. Now I need to hunt down any more funds I forgot about...

 

[cipher]

BetFred have never taken US players have they?QUOTE]

Unfortunately yes. I've done very well with Fred over the years.

Have a good one.

 

[Tailgun]

Unfortunately yes. I've done very well with Fred over the years.

Have a good one.

Cipher, are there any casinos left as of this morning where you can still use a Neteller account and play as a US citizen?

What will you do if this gets worse? Stick to just B&M?

 

[The Dude]

Cipher, are there any casinos left as of this morning where you can still use a Neteller account and play as a US citizen?

What will you do if this gets worse? Stick to just B&M?

Many of the MG, RTG, and Playtech casinos are still in a "watch and wait" mode. No telling how long some of them may hang in there.