Casinos closing and No US players

Simmo!

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It'll mostly be casinos who are affiliated with sportsbooks you'll find - they need to protect their execs in all areas of the business in light of the US oppression. There have been two exceptions (Ritz and Jackpot Joy), but one is now open again and one is a temporary closure.
 

The Watchdog

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Nice thread

There should be a thread made with updates ...

Providing info of which urls are been blocked, which casinos are closing... and such related info after this moronic bill passed
 

Rangeral

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Not bet 365

Bet365 has to be my favorite casino so far. I like playing live BJ and have won some and lost more, but when I do win, my money is in my netteller in a matter of four, may be five hours max. I hope they don't scrap out US players.
 

aka23

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I see Intercasino's partner VIP Casino also has that statement about US players. I hope there are no issues with my withdrawl of the bonus $.
 

paul02085

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Wow. This is just the start folks. I have resigned myself to the fact it is over for me. Oh well, i guess maybe i need to get off my b.tt and get outside more anyway. It has been a great ride. I will still keep coming here (if i am not blocked) just to keep up with the industry.

Very sad.
 

dirk_dangerous

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Hey, let's all look at the bright side, we will all have the chance to watch these scum ridden casinos suffer huge financial losses. :D :D :D

Oh, and thanks online casinos; I've made a lot of money hustling your bonuses.

LoL
 

SlotsWizard

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Hey, let's all look at the bright side, we will all have the chance to watch these scum ridden casinos suffer huge financial losses.
I think it could go either way. The good folks will pull out of the U.S. market because they want to protect their asse(t)s.

But the slimy scumballs will probably come up with new ways to bilk U.S. customers out of their money, such as the "phantom book" and "invisible apple" schemes mentioned here and at other forums. And if these guys are the only ones left that are willing to accept U.S. customers then they'll probably remain successful.

Or, they could just wither and die which is what we would all like for them to do anyway. Then if/when the industry becomes regulated in the US the good guys can come back, and they'll have many more years of experience with the online world than the big LV/AC names will.
 

jetset

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But the slimy scumballs will probably come up with new ways to bilk U.S. customers out of their money, such as the "phantom book" and "invisible apple" schemes mentioned here and at other forums. And if these guys are the only ones left that are willing to accept U.S. customers then they'll probably remain successful.QUOTE]

Unfortunately, official prohibition always seems to drive an issue underground, opening the way for the crooks of this world to circumvent the law involved and rip off the unprotected *consumer*in the process.

In a way, that's what happened in the past in some sectors of the industry, thanks to US enforcement and legislative policies that have compelled even decent operators to set up offshore, sometimes in barely regulated jurisdictions that are more interested in licensing revenues than genuine regulation and could not give a damn about the player.

Many of the top companies in the industry have been pointing this out to the US authorities and political establishment for years, explaining the more positive alternative of regulated and taxed online gaming within the States which would encourage adequately funded and professional gambling groups - including the big US land gambling names - to operate openly and in a controlled American environment that excludes the dubious and would be safer and more appealing to the millions of online gamblers in the States.

But the American player and his or her wishes seem to be the least thing that the politicians care about. These approaches have been ignored time and time again, and instead we see hypocritical carve-outs for vested interests, political wheeling and dealing on a grand scale for the *moral vote* or commercial protectionism and unsubstantiated accusations of criminal conduct by the industry in general from badly informed politicians.

Capping that, there is the frustration of watching a strange (some would say twisted) political process whereby sharp politicians can make "attachments" to totally unrelated bills in covert moves that apparently cancel out any democratic requirement that a Bill be debated and voted on its individual and specific merits.

The cherry on the top is a state and federal enforcement system that is apparently a law unto itself and seems to rely increasingly on scare tactics rather than the letter of the law and the authority of the courts to interpret it.

I get the feeling that both politicians and enforcement officials are playing fast and loose with the real laws of the land here, exploiting the confusing legal climate concerning Internet activities to the full.

The demand of so many Americans for legal online gambling cannot be long denied imo, and the business possibilities flowing from that demand will not have escaped the attention of the big US land gambling groups and their influence in US politics. For those reasons alone I do not believe online gambling will remain *illegal* for Americans indefinitely.

In the meantime I think players need to continue to make their voices heard by their political representatives, perhaps through organised bodies like the PPA and NROG and the media. Don't let your *leaders* forget that there is a large body of US citizens who demand a legitimate right to enjoy safe and fair gambling using modern technologies.

IMO US players are being shafted by political expediency here - let the politicians know how little you are impressed by their efforts on your behalf!
 

rma20

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Quick question...I really only play at bodog and spin palace. Do you think either one of these will block US customers?
 

Casinomeister

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So let me get this straight, we can still deposit and play at VIP and Intercasino but we just can no longer take a bonus :confused:

This is true - no bonus, but that might be a good thing since you have no worries about wagering requirements. I play there often - mostly without the bonus, since I find it constricts my playing style.
 

Casinomeister

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Quick question...I really only play at bodog and spin palace. Do you think either one of these will block US customers?
I would say that most casino groups will be coming out with a statement for players in the next couple of days. There is a lot of unhealthy panicking right now. For many casinos it's business as usual. Nothing is going to happen (if the law is signed) for months.
 

footdr

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Intercasino

I noticed from the posts that some players were able to receive their bonuses. I started trying 12.01am. l0/1. Only got an error message that promotion had not started or I was not entitled. Since I knew that I was entitled I assumed it had not started. No where in the error message or in the software did it say NO bonus U.S. players.

This is what I just posted in the bonus Forum:

I tried to claim the bonus EARLY 10/1/06. I kept getting an error message that said nothing about the ban on US players. I finally phoned support and was told no bonuses for US players. I asked at what time they posted the notice and was told 5 hours ago which would have been 9:35p.m. CST US. Oct. 1

I had already been playing on the web site prior to the notice being posted on the casino web page. There was no notice posted in the casino software.

I have played at the casino over 1 year. Rarely have claimed the bonus, maybe once.

I asked if I would still be receiving comp points they did not know . They promised to email me an answer in 2 hours. SO BEWARE if you are counting on that extra money once a month to help cover losses!

Also, I asked what prompted the ban. Support replied they were not at liberty to say. WHY NOT????? Maybe Casinomeister knows. He handles the casinos Disputes.

I don't think they handled this very well. Perhaps it would have been better to notify players that October was the last month we would get bonuses. Unless, they are planning to ban play totally. In that case, the bonus should be banned at that time. They are still letting us play so they can make money up until the point we can no longer legally play but don't want to reward us for past or continued loyalty. The government didnt pass a no bonus law. I am giving them no further money. If they can not provide an acceptable explanation to their loyal players.
 

twilasue

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I was thinking of playing a new casino tonight, so I had a VIP Casino lying around, thought I'd check here before actually playing of course, but I had started the installation.

Got no further than the T&C's, when I read this (and this cd came before the bill's passing) I stopped cold.

VIP Casino License Agreement


"1.3 The Games are only available to you if the use of the Games is permitted in the Local Jurisdiction. CMC does not intend that anyone should use the Games where such use is illegal. The availability of the Games does not constitute an offer or invitation by CMC to use the Games in any country in which such use is illegal. Use of the Games and participation therein is void wherever prohibited by any applicable law. YOU ACCEPT SOLE RESPONSIBILITY FOR DETERMINING WHETHER YOUR USE OF THE GAMES IS LEGAL IN THE LOCAL JURISDICTION. If your use of the Games is illegal you will not be entitled to collect any winnings and the Service Providers reserve the right to recover any winnings already received by you and/or by anyone acting on your behalf and to report you to the relevant authorities."

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reserve the right to recover any winnings already received by you and/or by anyone acting on your behalf and to report you to the relevant authorites​

Damn, it isn't bad enough are own gov't is screwing us left & right we got to look out for people from other countries handing us over to them too now...

Let's make sure and read those t&c's reallllly carefully now....

Thanks for all the updates, btw.
 

frufrugirl

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I am from the US and played the October monthly bonus without issue a few hours ago.

As the "last" USA forum member to play the October InterCasino Bonus, we entrust you with the offical honor of being the "Keeper of the Bonus Memory." We hope that you take this honor seriously and pray that you will share with us the thrill received at cashout!:notworthy
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.No, really. Did you win?:)
 

LooneyTunez

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Jul 13, 2006
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Somewhere out there
I'm a little nervous!

I claimed the bonus about 5 minutes after midnight on the 1st, and it was accepted. I got extremely lucky early in my wagering, and hit the Marvel Hero Jackpot (playing the Hulk) and won about $8000. I continued to play as normal to meet my playthrough and made a withdrawal for $8000 at 5am. Usually my withdrawals with Intercasino take about a day to get back to my Neteller account, but it hasn't shown up yet. I just called support, and they assured me that the new policy will not affect my winnings, and that it can take up to 3 days to process the withdrawal. So, here's hoping all goes well, and the money gets to Neteller in the next day or so...I will immediately withdraw it all from Neteller as well...just to be on the safe side.
 
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