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Can casinos give you a lower RTP setting?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by whatwhat, Aug 21, 2015.

    Aug 21, 2015
  1. whatwhat

    whatwhat Banned User - unauthorized second account

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    Seriously today i have lost 1100 euros in a casino and on 0.90 a spin on various slots i deposited 300 and didd not get a bonus round nor a win over 10x bet. I redeposit 200 same thing. Then it just goes on and on. Had one win of 45 euros the rest has been 10-20 max. Had the 3 last deposits not even giving a bonus round. This seams abnormally bad.. I have never seen anything like it.

    I started playing higher stakes and could barley get a 5 x bet win on any slot.. High variance or not in all my life ive never seen anything like it and im pretty sure if someone looks at the logs there is something wrong.
     
  2. Aug 21, 2015
  3. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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    Microgaming slots????
     
  4. Aug 21, 2015
  5. Freeman

    Freeman Experienced Member

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    This is why I don't gamble as much as I used to. It's perfectly normal, and no: they dont fiddle around with your RTP. You'r supposed to lose on the slots, that's why they make them. It's mathematics turned into business :)
     
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  6. Aug 21, 2015
  7. whatwhat

    whatwhat Banned User - unauthorized second account

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    Microgaming and Netent both. Tried maybe 8-9 games all the same as if it diddent even matter what game i picked. Im talking so bad that cs wont even give me my RTP. They just keep going around the porrige avoiding the question just saying yeah we can see that you have been very unlucky. I think they know if they tell me my RTP i will close my account with them.

    They said a VIP manager will contact me on monday. Loll, what does a comp help if its impossible to even get a decent session/playtime. All deposit i have made here has lasted 10 minutes on 0.90 bets mostley.

    So im curious to if casinos can set payouts fore individual players lower? This is by a mile the sickest cold slots i have seen ever. Its like all games are set to not pay anything at all. You gotta agree that in 1100+ euros and biggest win is 45 euros thats pretty abnormal.
     
  8. Aug 21, 2015
  9. whatwhat

    whatwhat Banned User - unauthorized second account

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    Yeah i know that, but still. This bad? I have played for many years and i dont think i have had this bad luck before. Like across all games at once. Thats pretty sick
     
  10. Aug 21, 2015
  11. Freeman

    Freeman Experienced Member

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    "Many years" just don't cut it when it comes to RTP, not even if you play 100 million billion years you'r anywhere near. That's the problem with the term "theoretical" as in theoretical Return To Player. As I see it the RTP could just as well be set to 100% on any game as it is theoretically possible... Or how about zero as it is equally possible and more common :D
     
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  12. Aug 21, 2015
  13. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    No, they can't change them.
    You didn't say WHICH slots you were playing - but I wouldn't be surprised to hear it's the high variance ones?
    People who play these often complain about crap results - but that's what you get most of the time - you can't have it both ways.

    e.g. I played Thunderstruck II a couple of days ago: did 684 spins @ 90c, biggest win was $33.90 (10 spins @ x5) and my RTP for that session was 59%.

    Maybe you need to change your slots - maybe even try a different software...?

    KK
     
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  15. whatwhat

    whatwhat Banned User - unauthorized second account

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    I played these games:

    Immortal romance (not so much)
    Jurassic park
    GOT
    Thunderstruck 2
    Wish master
    Dark Knight
    Avalaon 2
    Dead or Alive
    Creature from the black lagoon
    Gonzo quest
    Secret of the stones
    Terminator
    Twin Spin
    Wonkey Wabbits

    I play all this games on the regular, and sometimes one or two of them are paying rally bad but to have all at once.

    Dead or alive fore example usually gives bonus rounds very regularly. Today i lost 3 deposits on 0.45 and 0.90 stake without even getting one. Only game that paid allitle bit was Dark knight.
     
  16. Aug 21, 2015
  17. whatwhat

    whatwhat Banned User - unauthorized second account

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    Im not depositing any more there now. 1300 losses today and 800 yesterday. They are saying they want me to talk with the VIP mananger on monday. I would rather close my account tough. Seams a comp is coming my way. I think my RTP is around 50-60% maybe lower. Had 60 ish after the first couple of deposits and it just kept getting worse to the point where they wouldent even tell me.

    What is a reasonable comp in this situation?
     
  18. Aug 21, 2015
  19. Freeman

    Freeman Experienced Member

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    OMG You just nailed just about the A-Team of high variance lots :)
     
  20. Aug 21, 2015
  21. Freeman

    Freeman Experienced Member

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    My only and best advise when playing those games are to pick one and give them as much spins as you'r deposit allows. Jumping around between such slots are... not optimal. Adjust your bet/spin just to the point of feeling TO low. Example: If I have 100 - 500 Eur my bet/spin on DOA would be 0,45.
     
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  22. Aug 21, 2015
  23. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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    Are you one billion percent certain please KK :notworthy

    Please reassure me some more as at this moment I have the worst bout of 'tin-foil-itis' I have ever encountered!!!

    I have just had my worst session in 12 years !!!! £40 balance 30p/18p/ 9p bets not even 1/2 an hour, no wins and the deadest and coldest I have ever seen MG slots. (Mainly TS and TSII which have been 'dead' daily all month!)

    I am up there with the best when it comes to accepting losses, taking the rough with the smooth etc but tonight was really the icing on the cake of piss takes from what was for years my favourite and a very fair win some/lose some casino.

    Cheers :thumbsup:
     
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  25. whatwhat

    whatwhat Banned User - unauthorized second account

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    Every game has been very poor to me latley. I won and cashed out 1500 from said casino. And since then this happens. This also seams to be a regular occourrance across all casinos thats why i asked my opening question.

    Cash out = dead spins and no wins for atleast the amount you have won, and maybe double before you "stand a chance again".

    To be honest what i have experienced today just seamed very "unatural", its hard to explain but the way the games behaved its like they are all running the same engine. Not sure how to word it, but as if it was one global setting across the casino giving me a lower than normal chance at winning. I have seen simular behaviour before when reversing cashouts. But never on deposits like this. Usually if you feed enough you get something back.

    Im 100% sure if i lost this amount and didd not have the previous cash out i would have won either close to, equal or more back.
     
  26. Aug 21, 2015
  27. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    Casinos, espec MG cannot tweak your RTP; it's set by MG and the casinos have no control. You needn't worry.
    Bear in mind, were it even possible (again, it's not) casino have thousands (or tens of thousands) of players...monitoring your rtp just isnt feasible.

    We all have bad runs..some are long, some aren't. But you will, always, ultimately lose. It's jst how it woks.
     
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  29. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    You only need add Raping Rhino and BDBA to this list and you've just about nailed the art of losing a deposit fast.....

    If ever there were a slot suicide-mission then you've done it....
     
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  31. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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    My 'moan' was not in comparison to deposits and/or withdrawals just really rubbish game time / game play for an inexcusable length of time at one particular casino.

    The post above Dunover's (and thanks for not throwing the tin foil piccy in :p) is the best reassurance I have received thus far - Thank You!! :thumbsup:

    I guess in all these years I still have't learnt the art of the 'Low Variance' slot !!!
     
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  33. Freeman

    Freeman Experienced Member

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    I understand you, but there's just no conspiracy against you. We "oldies" have gone thru the exact same thought's as yours and eventually you will have an aha-moment: The slots are there for a reason, and it's priority is not to make YOU money or even give you a guaranteed playtime. Let go of the paranoia, the big win is just around the corner... maybe <3
     
  34. Aug 21, 2015
  35. thebigs

    thebigs Senior Member

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    Well i took the 32Red match deposit this evening and started with a 127 euro balance.
    Playing my usual slots at mostly 30cent i only had two bonuses and both were on JP and both paid crap.
    Less than 2 hours play is quite frustrating and i know how the OP feels as these slots have been cruel for longer than they really should be.
    I said i would have a week of playing them before a break and that's nearly over so it is a shame that the enjoyment has gone.
     
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  37. whatwhat

    whatwhat Banned User - unauthorized second account

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    "Fucking high variance" hahaha

    Well, i understand the volatility of these games, and i understand that concept. What im saying tough is today it was abnormally bad. And also after hearing and reading about the recent Real time gaming jackpot screw up.

    They can obviously alter the jackpot, then what else can the change? The enigneer even had acress to a live server. And trust me if Real Time Gaming can, then so can the rest of them. I have gotten very suspicious latley and after today i might say im not going to play much anymore.

    Sticking with one casino and one deposit a month. Since its pretty obvious when its bad its bad, and it wont change. Im also pretty sure if i had 10K today and played i would have lost it all with the same exact results i have been having all day.

    edit:

    Also im not complaining i diddent win. Its just the way i lost thats nagging me. Just the really dead spins all day. If i lost my money having a good time i would not complain.
     
  38. Aug 21, 2015
  39. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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    This is my main gripe!!

    I have just had a break from slotting all week, looking forward to 100% DOTD and my first deposit this week, settled in nice n chilled, fresh 20 Fags only to be ** Insert anything really nasty which spring to mind **
     
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