Brexit - whats the difference.....

The problem that Johnson and his government have now is that they've burned through a HUGE amount of political capital and goodwill with their shambolic response to Covid-19 and the disgraceful Cummings affair.

The Tories are tanking in the polls as a party, and Johnson's numbers are all heading downhill fast, with Keir Starmer quickly emerging as the adult in the room (and indeed Starmer is polling better than Johnson in many areas already).

Johnson and his government have already lost a huge amount of respect and trust, I honestly don't think the voting public will forgive them for a bad Brexit, and I don't think they're going to be able to blame it on the EU either.

One term government? I think so.
 
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No shit Sherlock..
Labour are no longer labour, now just some far far left circus.
Virtue signalling race baiting party of misfits.
The current cabinet is like a who’s who of a comedy sketch.
110% boris will get another term.
If labour stuck to being well, labour you may see a credible challenge.
But in this guise it’s a one horse race for a long time.
and that’s most poor for debate and change and politics on a whole.
 
Some areas of the press are spinning this one differently, but make no mistake, the Japanese/UK trade deal is very much what the Japanese have offered us, and given us six weeks to say yes or no. There is no room for 'negotiation'.

Japan see the UK for what it is now, a medium sized economic power, that is in decline, that has voluntarily left one of the most powerful trading blocs in the world (the EU).

As this commentator notes, it's basically the EU/Japan trade deal but with the good bits (for us) taken out.

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Yes, it must be said that political stubbornness and Brexit bravado ought to have been put on hold for a while, instead of the "We will proceed as planned and at any cost" past December slapdashery.

Whilst no doubt great on their political mantelpiece, it is indeed the 'everyman' that loses out and has no real time to make contingency plans. It's more "We're alright Jack" whilst everyone else panics like loons!

Case in point, having to renew one's passport in this 'unique' set of circumstances is no mean feat. With embassies only just reopening their hallowed halls it will indeed be a super fun time playing 'appointment whack-a-mole' just to get things up to speed and not be branded an EU Pariah, before being shipped off in shackles to.....anywhere but here!

So a massive shout-out to Boris & crew for making life exponentially easier for those needing to tie up paperwork and giving us that much-needed extension :thumbsup:
 
Remember all that stuff about unelected EU bureaucrats meddling in our affairs?

Here is Tory MP Marc Francois threatening the UK's top general that if he doesn't do as he's told, Cummings is going to go down there and 'sort him out'.

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Just to demonstrate how the BREXIT MESSAGE has shifted (sunlit uplands, we hold all the cards, a great deal will fall into our laps, German Car Manufacturers etc etc) - we're now at:

Andrea Leadsom - It was made very clear, in 2016, that people would lose their jobs in the event of a no-deal.

I don't personally recall that being on the side of a bus as a campaign slogan.

 
This would be funny if it weren't so depressingly inevitable.

Ahhhh yes, I remember, it was all Project Fear. Shortly to be come Project Reality.

Click on the Twitter thread below for the full explanation.



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Just watching Sophy Ridge - the thinking man's crumpet - grill Michael Gove. The man has an uncanny knack of saying "Uhhm" and "Ahh" a lot, so that's impressive

He also alluded to the Government's 'Mexican Wall' £705Mil investment to keep the E.U riff-raff out! Or protect them from us, it all boils down to perspective doesn't it

Should make for an interesting development in these.....'eventful' times
 
More expensive travel insurance, no pet passports, possible roaming charges, red tape for business: the government's website to tell people how to prepare for Brexit sounds like something the Remain campaign wrote in 2016.

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He also alluded to the Government's 'Mexican Wall' £705Mil investment to keep the E.U riff-raff out! Or protect them from us, it all boils down to perspective doesn't it

As some wag put it:

Vote Leave government to spend hundreds of millions of pounds on euphemistic ways of saying 'We Lied'.
 
Fair play to them for actually trying to polish the turd of 'Everything is about to become more difficult and expensive, and we're spending a fortune on turd polishing'.

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The EU Referendum and its many associated tactical slogans seem so very long ago now. A lot of water's passed under the proverbial bridge

Much like nations' early handling of the Covid outbreak, seemingly a lot's been learnt along the way!

And much like in 2016, the Media certainly played their part
 
The EU Referendum and its many associated tactical slogans seem so very long ago now. A lot of water's passed under the proverbial bridge

Much like nations' early handling of the Covid outbreak, seemingly a lot's been learnt along the way!

And much like in 2016, the Media certainly played their part

The problem is, the Brexiteers didn't listen. They put it all down as the catchy phrase "Project Fear". And they were right. The facts SHOULD have been feared. They didn't fear them at all. And now we are FUCKED. Entirely.
 
The problem is, the Brexiteers didn't listen. They put it all down as the catchy phrase "Project Fear". And they were right. The facts SHOULD have been feared. They didn't fear them at all. And now we are FUCKED. Entirely.

This is the thing, all of what's coming was 100% predicted, it's not a big surprise, it's not the 'EU punishing us', it's the inevitable consequence of a Leave campaign that was based on rhetoric and lies from the start, and decisions such as ruling out membership of a Customs Union.

I mean, crikey, it'll all be documented in this very thread.

And now here we are, staring down the barrel of inflicting gross national vandalism - on ourselves.

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A good read here.

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Hope is a powerful thing. Politicians ruthlessly exploit it. And with Brexit, it has been exploited to such a high degree that it has become a political sting. Brexit is the greatest political heist that Britain has ever seen. A gigantic con led by a group of right-wing libertarians who have exploited the hopes of millions of people to convince them that they were taking back control, when in fact, they were giving control away to the people who conned them. So instead of making things better, Brexit will make things a lot worse. Britain will become a place where the hope becomes hopeless.

Many Leave voters feel disenfranchised. They are right to feel that, but they wrongly believe that the EU is to blame. The tragedy of Brexit is that the EU isn’t the source of the problems facing Britain. Instead, decades of UK government failures are the true problem. Failed economic policy, industrial strategy (or lack of), regional regeneration, social policy. All of which have created a society where the rich get richer and our communities and public services pay the price.

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For four decades, millions of people within communities right across the country have seen a decline in their social fabric. The key community frameworks of a happy and stable society have been dismantled, de-funded or sold off. It has made many people unhappy, disenfranchised and, understandably, wanting something or someone to blame.


Sadly, it appears that many people have lost sight of the root cause of who to blame for this decline.

Millions of people have been manipulated by politicians and the media into mistakenly believing that their loss of hope was somehow the fault of the EU and immigrants. This was also wrapped around repetitive jingoistic messages about the pre-EU days of war and British Empire delusion. These messages have been hammered home by the Tories and right-wing media outlets for more than 30 years. Sadly, it has worked. Millions of people think that, because of foreign incomers or interference, they and their country have lost control. But, demonising the likes of the EU and immigrants is psychological projection.

Brussels isn’t to blame. The Romanians aren’t to blame. Jean-Claude Juncker isn’t to blame. The Muslims aren’t to blame. Remainers aren’t to blame. But I know who should be blamed. The ones who wear blue rosettes on election day; who wear bespoke pinstripe suits in Parliament; who have exceedingly good manners and faux politeness and who many people in Britain have a peculiar trait of forelock tugging towards. It is all a giant act of Tory manipulation. See through their veneer and the optics aren’t particularly pleasant. They are the ones that shafted this country. Not a Bulgarian immigrant looking for a better life.

17.4 million people with good intentions were hoodwinked by a bunch of political chancers who conned a nation to enable them to further their careers or feather their own nests (or the pound shorting nests of whatever hedge fund manager chum they happen to have an association with).

 
Today's cheerful 'Brexit dividend' read.

It's all feeling a bit gloomy at the moment, so if anyone wants to counter this barrage of bad news with something that Brexit is making better, please do chip in.

Remember folks, the American trade negotiators can see all this, they're going to squash us like an insect.

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Analysts at the Bank of America (BoA) have warned that Brexit is turning the pound into a liquid emerging market currency, rather than a G10 currency.

Since the June 2016 EU referendum, currency analyst Kamal Shah said sterling's exchange rate fluctuations have more closely resembled the Mexican Peso than the US dollar, with its movements becoming "neurotic at best, unfathomable at worst."

"The pound increasingly resembles the more liquid emerging market currencies rather than a core G10 currency," he told the FT.


"We believe sterling is in the process of evolving into a currency that resembles the underlying reality of the British economy: small and shrinking with a growing dual deficit problem similar to more liquid [emerging market] currencies."
 
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