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Brexit - whats the difference.....

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goatwack said:
It's the world-famous 'Mushroom attached to apple with fireworks atop it' symbol of peace

What else could it possibly be
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The pair of you want to hang your heads in shame.. the depravity you have sunk to is a new low.
ive eaten my weight in Chinese food and also drank about 5 pints of Dr Pepper.
I’ll have to address the thread in the morning once de-toxed.
 
Playford7 said:
The pair of you want to hang your heads in shame.. the depravity you have sunk to is a new low.
ive eaten my weight in Chinese food and also drank about 5 pints of Dr Pepper.
I’ll have to address the thread in the morning once de-toxed.
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I enjoy Dr Peppers.
Though, my version would be cola and amaretto)
 
I think its time everybody put their differences aside.
We need to be united if we are to stand a chance vs the true enemy of mankind.


Another crisis currently going on is that im almost out of cloudberrys.
This is more of personal crisis i guess.
It is after all the second best berry.
8.5/10 Honeyjars.

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steveh35 said:
Donald Tusk says EU has empathy for Scotland but it cannot expect special treatment and they have to agree to all treaties and formalities to join the EU.

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"The European Policy Centre think-tank, of which Mr Van Rompuy is president, last year published an analysis on independent Scottish membership of the EU.

...But it said Scotland could not expect "special treatment" and that the Scottish government would have to accept all the obligations of membership, including agreeing in principle to join the euro."

I see this marr/tusk interview and associated article as the BBC continuing to try to stir things up and get us back in, implying because of brexit scotland must have another referendum. A referendum is a rare, once in the lifetime opportunity that's why the brits came out in such huge numbers, we knew this would likely be our only opportunity.

I'm still not 100% sure why Cameron gave it to us bearing in mind he is a committed remainer, my feeling is had remain won this would have been taken as a green light for further integration and political union between the UK and EU, possibly the EU army/defense force being set up. Maybe now the EU will move slower regarding things like an army, just in case it provokes other countries to decide they want out...

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steveh35 said:
Donald Tusk says EU has empathy for Scotland but it cannot expect special treatment and they have to agree to all treaties and formalities to join the EU.

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If the Scottish folk refused to vote for independance a few years ago then why would they vote differently today given the fact that the UK has left the EU and all of the scare stories that were peddled about us leaving have not came true?
I can see the UK thrive and other Countries following our example
 
geordiecolin said:
If the Scottish folk refused to vote for independance a few years ago then why would they vote differently today given the fact that the UK has left the EU and all of the scare stories that were peddled about us leaving have not came true?
I can see the UK thrive and other Countries following our example
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2 days into brexit might be a tad early to say no scare stories will come true.
Isnt it gonna take a couple years to see how good/bad brexit turns out to be?
 
geordiecolin said:
If the Scottish folk refused to vote for independance a few years ago then why would they vote differently today given the fact that the UK has left the EU and all of the scare stories that were peddled about us leaving have not came true?
I can see the UK thrive and other Countries following our example
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For all you can trust Polls I think the last You Gov one had it narrowed. Flip of a coin if it was held tomorrow, in all likelihood.
 
sufferinsilence said:
Time to lighten up the mood in here, again... Atleast Britain is getting their courts back from....... :what:

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The BBC was shocking. From what I understand Sky News was just as bias too ( I have refused to watch Sky News for years and the BBC news very rarely these days) They did their utmost in projecting leaving in a bad light.
The BBC is British in name only.
Will the BBC now do all it can to damage the relationship between Trum and the UK in order to effect trade deals?
Will we see the BBC present what is happening in the EU in a very positive light in order to bolster support for rejoining?
Will we see the BBC giving lots of time pushing the rejoin campaigners arguments for rejoining while at the same time jumping on any supposed negative effects for the leave decision?
My guess to all of the above questions is yes.
Personally,I think it is time to scrap the license fee and make the BBC seek its funding elsewhere.
 
Kroffe said:
2 days into brexit might be a tad early to say no scare stories will come true.
Isnt it gonna take a couple years to see how good/bad brexit turns out to be?
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Nothing changes in 2020 as we're in the transition phase. (Well, apart from companies quietly relocating offices and staff to the EU, a lot of which has been happening already, and will continue to happen, there just isn't any big fanfare about it.)

Johnson has 2020 to get his trade deal with the EU in place (SPOILER ALERT - it's not going to be good), and then Jan 2021 is where things really get interesting.
 
Kroffe said:
2 days into brexit might be a tad early to say no scare stories will come true.
Isnt it gonna take a couple years to see how good/bad brexit turns out to be?
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We had scare stories and propaganda from both sides prior to the referendum. We where given doom and gloom predictions for what would happen the day,weeks,months and years after if we voted to leave. None of it came true. We even had the supposedly neutral governor of the bank of england giving horrendous predictions on a number of occassions when in reality none of them came true.
So to say that it is too early to predict scare stories coming true may be true but there is no evidence of these scare stories coming to fruition.
In fact I would argue that it is the exact opposit based on the reality of the past few years after we voted to leave.
 
steveh35 said:
How do you know a brexiter wrote it a remainer could easily have wrote it and posted it online for publicity
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It is so easy to use bare statistics to further a cause/argument.
The Institute of race relations had set up an initiative wherebye they invited the public to report to them instances of racist incidents. This initiative began not long before the referendum and by the time the referendum happened they only had a limited amount of data which is to be expected for a little known initiative.
Despite such limited data and knowledge of the initiative the next publication of data was used as a stick to bash leave voters as racists when in reality the figures simply reflected the initiatives natural(and by then highly publicised) growth and usage of it.
It is so easy to manipulate according to agenda
 
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dealer wins said:
The reality is not much will change. A deal will be struck as the EU couldnt afford it not to be considering we are a net importer.

The best thing is that we have a government with a decent majority so they can play hard with the EU, and therefore get a much more favorable deal.
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I am pretty sure the future EU deal will be the easier one unless your PM wants to break with the EU completely. Both sides have a vested interest in getting a deal done and in such situations usually a compromise that pleases most of the people can be found.

"Play hard with the EU" - all good but please no whining when it does not go your way as we have witnessed in all these Brexit threads. :rolleyes: Might be good to remember that the EU negotiators are no dummies either.

What I see more problematic are your other 100+ trade deals that you will need to negotiate separately with each of those countries. They will see you as vulnerable and especially those important to the UK's future prosperity will try to squeeze you to the max.

The sabre-rattling from some has already started, most prominently from your supposedly big friends and allies in the US.
 
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The feeling I get from the naysayers and media doom-mongers is that yes, it'll take years to get anywhere as stable as we were in regards to trade deals, but that we'll get taken to the cleaners and end up being hussled everywhere.

Who's to truly say we won't up negotiating better deals outside of certain EU shackles, as I'm sure our businesses aren't all dumb-dumbs!

Although to be fair we have sold 85% of our industries so there is that :D
 
goatwack said:
The feeling I get from the naysayers and media doom-mongers is that yes, it'll take years to get anywhere as stable as we were in regards to trade deals, but that we'll get taken to the cleaners and end up being hussled everywhere.

Who's to truly say we won't up negotiating better deals outside of certain EU shackles, as I'm sure our businesses aren't all dumb-dumbs!

Although to be fair we have sold 85% of our industries so there is that :D
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Of course, you could end up with better deals. The chances are 50/50 I would think.

The bigger headache is your service industry which is now the largest single part of your GDP. Quite a good portion of foreign companies chose the UK exactly because of the access to the EU, not because they saw the UK as a huge market per se. Since these corporations often show proverbial herd behaviour, it will be interesting to see what kind of exodus or non-exodus for that matter will take place in the coming years.

Still, no reason to panic either way. Life will go on, and that exactly the same as before for the vast majority of people on either side.
 
Harry_BKK said:
Of course, you could end up with better deals. The chances are 50/50 I would think.

The bigger headache is your service industry which is now the largest single part of your GDP. Quite a good portion of foreign companies chose the UK exactly because of the access to the EU, not because they saw the UK as a huge market per se. Since these corporations often show proverbial herd behaviour, it will be interesting to see what kind of exodus or non-exodus for that matter will take place in the coming years.

Still, no reason to panic either way. Life will go on, and that exactly the same as before for the vast majority of people on either side.
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I can well see Farage being given a roll in future negotiations if he wishes to do it. That would upset some people :p
 
geordiecolin said:
I can well see Farage being given a roll in future negotiations if he wishes to do it. That would upset some people :p
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Or he could be made King Nigel I of the Isle of Man?
 
dunover said:
Or he could be made King Nigel I of the Isle of Man?
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I can just envisage Nigel as being Chopley's wing man while Chops is touring the IOM's pubs stuffing coins in the slots
( And Nigel bemoaning that the bar is refusing to except his new 50p coins as legal tendor)
 
On a more important note, today we have one of the very rare Palindrome Days - 02/02/2020 - reads the same either way, no matter the date format - US, UK or ISO. What makes it even more special is that we have today a palindrome day of the year - day 33 - and for the rest of the year - 333 days to go.

According to what I just read, the last one was on 11/11/1111 and the next one will be on 12/12/2121 before people will have to wait again some 900 years for 03/03/3030.

I'll be starting my preparations for 3030 now.
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Harry_BKK said:
On a more important note, today we have one of the very rare Palindrome Days - 02/02/2020 - reads the same either way. What makes it even more special is that we have today a palindrome day of the year - day 33 - and for the rest of the year - 333 days to go.

According to what I just read, the last one was on 11/11/1111 and the next one will be on 12/12/2121 before people will have to wait again some 900 years for 03/03/3030.

I'll be starting my preparations for 3030 now. View attachment 122480
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Well that's bollocks for a start, what about 9 years ago? 11/02/2011 8 years ago? 21/02/2012

Must've been written by a remainer that article lol.

I do remember back in 1978 as a kid being at junior school and the teacher waiting in summer one lesson just before dinner to tell us it was 12:34 on 5/6/78

Also what about 22/02/2022 which is well before the quoted 12/12/2121 bloody long way before 03/03/3030
 
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Harry_BKK said:
On a more important note, today we have one of the very rare Palindrome Days - 02/02/2020 - reads the same either way. What makes it even more special is that we have today a palindrome day of the year - day 33 - and for the rest of the year - 333 days to go.

According to what I just read, the last one was on 11/11/1111 and the next one will be on 12/12/2121 before people will have to wait again some 900 years for 03/03/3030.

I'll be starting my preparations for 3030 now. View attachment 122480
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What happened to th 21/12/2112:rolleyes:
 
In numerology, 33 is often thought to be a powerful and mystical number. When a number doubles in numerology (has the same digits in the tens and ones positions), it is a master number considered to be very powerful. Whether it is
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, or Pythagorean numerology, all sects still see great power in the number 33.

In numerology, 33 is a deeply spiritual number. The number has had many religious connotations throughout the years.

  • In Biblical numerology, Jesus was 33 years old when he was crucified.
  • Hinduism and other Vedic religions have 33 deities.
  • In Buddhism, it is associated with the concept of
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    , a description of 33 devas who reside in heaven and hell.
  • In Islam, prayer beads are organized into 3 sets of 33.
  • There are 33 degrees in the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Right of Freemasonry.
^^ I don't know if all this is correct, be interesting if it is.
 
dunover said:
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Well that's bollocks for a start, what about 9 years ago? 11/02/2011 8 years ago? 21/02/2012

Must've been written by a remainer that article lol.

I do remember back in 1978 as a kid being at junior school and the teacher waiting in summer one lesson just before dinner to tell us it was 12:34 on 5/6/78

Also what about 22/02/2022 which is well before the quoted 12/12/2121 bloody long way before 03/03/3030
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You are right, I went back to the article and it is the first time since 11/11/1111 no matter the date format - USA, UK or ISO.

Will edit my post. :)
 
goatwack said:
Not Brexit-related but:

Eva, can I see bees in a cave?

^ is a good one
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It is but i prefer this list of naughty people.

Dennis, Nell, Edna, Leon, Nedra, Anita, Rolf, Nora, Alice, Carol, Leo, Jane, Reed, Dena, Dale, Basil, Rae, Penny, Lana, Dave, Denny, Lena, Ida, Bernadette, Ben, Ray, Lila, Nina, Jo, Ira, Mara, Sara, Mario, Jan, Ina, Lily, Arne, Bette, Dan, Reba, Diane, Lynn, Ed, Eva, Dana, Lynne, Pearl, Isabel, Ada, Ned, Dee, Rena, Joel, Lora, Cecil, Aaron, Flora, Tina, Arden, Noel, and Ellen sinned.
 
Expect lots, lots more of this sort of stuff over the next year.

Also watch as the Leave side tries to blame the EU every single step of way, as the contradictions that have been inherent in the Leave position all along come to the fore.

Remember, we've done the easy bit of Brexit, the tough stuff is still to come.

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dunover said:
11022011

Well that's bollocks for a start, what about 9 years ago? 11/02/2011 8 years ago? 21/02/2012

Must've been written by a remainer that article lol.

I do remember back in 1978 as a kid being at junior school and the teacher waiting in summer one lesson just before dinner to tell us it was 12:34 on 5/6/78

Also what about 22/02/2022 which is well before the quoted 12/12/2121 bloody long way before 03/03/3030
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