Bodog's Domain Names Confiscated

[NASHVEGAS]

An excerpt from The Wizard of Odds e-mailed newsletter that I just received...Dunno?.................

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From Michael Bluejay....
Bodog.com is gone!I'm working from Japan at the moment, and the other day I couldn't load Bodog.com. So I called the Wizard on my VoIP phone (free call, even though I'm in Japan, hah!), to see if he could load it. He could load it just fine, so I figured the problem was on my end. Then the site went down for the Wizard too. And for the whole rest of the world.
Seems that Bodog lost a lawsuit brought by a company that says Bodog has been using their technology to deliver the games to users over the Internet faster. Actually, Bodog didn't so much lose as they got a default judgement against them, since they didn't show up to the trial for some reason.

So the suing company got control of all of Bodog's domains. But they can't do anything with them, because the name "Bodog" is trademarked. So while losing the domains is a loss for Bodog, it's not exactly a victory for the company that got them.

While Bodog is trying to get their domains back, they moved all their stuff over to NewBodog.com. Works just like the old one. Same site, new address, no problems. I logged in to check on that bet I made that Congress won't override a presidential veto this year, which I detailed back in the May newsletter. My $50 bet is still there, waiting on the outcome of the bet.

But that's not the only Bodog news...

Bodog spins off its North American gaming operation!
Bodog recently licensed the rights to operate its North American gaming operation to another company, Morris Mohawk Gaming. What this means is that players in North America get served by one company (Morris Mohawk) and players in other places get served by the original Bodog. But this will be seamless for the player, since there's just one website. It won't look any different to the players. But behind the scenes, one or the other companies is going to be running the servers and taking care of the money, depending on the player's country.
Is this related to Bodog's recent loss of their domains? Absolutely. They now have another partner to try to get the domains back, since Morris Mohawk has a huge stake in them. Bodog founder Calvin Ayre says as much in his blog.

Another plus for Bodog in licensing off their N. American ops is that it should lessen their legal liability, in light of the U.S. crackdown on online gambling. If the U.S. wants to go after Bodog's operation, now they won't be able to go after Bodog itself, in theory.

Anyway, a good question that North American players have might be, can I still expect the same high quality customer service from this new company? The answer is Yes. Bodog didn't license their brand as an afterthought, the contract with Morris Mohawk stipulates specifically that M.M. must maintain Bodog's high standards for service and support, and if they don't, then Bodog can cancel the agreement.

Readers know that the main reason we chose Bodog as our advertiser is because Bodog is consistently reputable, and it's rare for players to have any problems getting paid. Rest assured that if that ever changes, we'll be looking for a more reputable advertiser. At present, though, both the Wizard and I feel strongly that there's nothing to worry about.

RIGHTBACKACHA

 

[Simmo!]

SEO discussion (derail) split out and moved to: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/bodog-seo-discussion-split.19953/

 

[NASHVEGAS]

Calvin's 9-12-2007 Blog..................you be the judge!!!
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My Take on the Patent Suit, Patent Trolls and that Stupid Banjo Song

posted on 12 Sep 2007 by Calvin Ayre.




Billy Redden as "Lonny" from the movie "Deliverance" (Photo courtesy Warner Bros.)


CLICK TO PLAY "Dueling Banjos"

It ain't over till it's over.

There seems to be a certain amount of confusion surrounding the patent suit filed by Scott Lewis/1st Technology. As a result I've been asked a number of questions from concerned staff and customers, as well as industry folk, business colleagues and the media—tons of people want to know just what the hell is going on. Questions like: "Who is involved?" "How did this all come about?" "Why have you signed a licensing agreement with Morris Mohawk Gaming Group and what, if anything, does that have to do with the patent suit?" But my favorite question has to be: "Aren't you worried about being sued for making potentially libelous remarks?"

Just so you know, this is still an ongoing matter and I don't have the answers to all of your questions. But I will tell you this much…it is extremely important to see the obvious humor in this patent suit. That's why I've used my blog to express my opinions on the matter. Because all of this is pretty fucking insane and I'm still shaking my head over it.
Still…you've asked. Here are my answers…

My initial reaction to the patent suit?

I wish they would have actually served that company instead of just pretending they did to a Nevada Judge, which is what the research seems to indicate they did.

Have I ever heard of 1st Technology before this suit?

I never heard of them until the domains were grabbed. I think grabbing the domains was a big mistake. If anything, they should have just taken control of them and then quietly negotiated a settlement.

The second they unilaterally redirected them in what I am sure was a big testosterone gratifying move on their part, they gave our side the opportunity to show the world some Bodog power. There is nothing Bodog likes more than a ready-made media circus.

Bodog put up another site in a matter of hours and in less than two weeks the new site was ranking number one in Google searches for Bodog once again. Consequently, the media circus has begun. These guys are “Patent Trolls” and anyone that is curious to know more about them can look up the term on Wikipedia.

How did the licensing agreement with Morris Mohawk Gaming Group come about?

We did the licensing agreement with Morris Mohawk Gaming Group because this type of brand licensing is the way our business model is designed to evolve. We have been working on this for months. It is just a coincidence that this deal was done shortly before the Patent Trolls at 1st Tech pinched the domains.

How is this dispute between 1st Technology and Morris Mohawk?

This is based on a solely US patent dispute and Bodog international does not operate in the US for gaming anymore, the new Morris Mohawk Gaming Group does.

Why blog about the dispute?

Bodog is in the entertainment business and this is a very entertaining story so we are going to have some fun with it. We have a lot more plans to run marketing programs around this dispute if it's not settled.

Why risk running a Scott Lewis dance contest?

It is just a fun way to get the entire company to show the Patent Trolls at 1st Tech how little respect we have for them. We've got all the dance videos and will be releasing them (along with the winning video!) over the next few weeks.
Have I said anything libelous and am I concerned?

This guy tried to ruin my life and the lives of thousands of others around the globe with this move. In my eyes he and his lawyer partners are sub-human. Patent Trolls are parasites on society and progress as a whole. They are modern day pirates preying on successful companies. Patent Trolls invent nothing, manufacture nothing and contribute nothing other than the messes their actions result in. I don't believe the obvious comedy on my blog is libelous, but to be honest I don't really care if it is. If they have a problem with it they can say sorry to everyone and go away or they can come see me and do something about it. In the meantime, I am going to continue to have my fun at their expense and promote Bodog while I’m at it. We're researching 1st Tech and its principals, including the lawyers involved and I will be posting details on all the background info we uncover…so stay tuned to my blog…the "Official Scott Lewis Patent Troll Website"!

Am I concerned about having to testify in the U.S.?

I am not a shareholder, officer or director of the company they are in court with…it is not active in our group and it was just an oversight that someone moved the domains into it. There is no possible way I can be dragged into that case. That is nothing more than another fantasy coming out of their camp. We are having fun with this and look forward to seeing how this unfolds. I think eventually they may actually want to pay us to go away.

What's the deal with that stupid "Dueling Banjos" song?

It's from the movie "Deliverance". In the movie "Lonny" (played by actor Billy Redden) is this mentally challenged inbred…but damn can he play a mean banjo. It's a catchy tune that has come to symbolize the fucking bizarre nature of this whole patent suit thing. You can watch the video here. (**There's also some dueling banjos dance scenes in this clip…it's the sort of stuff we are aspiring to achieve in the Scott Lewis-Patent Troll dance contest!)

And yes I realize I've used the word "fucking" twice in this blog post. Sue me.

 

[SlotsWizard]

We did the licensing agreement with Morris Mohawk Gaming Group because this type of brand licensing is the way our business model is designed to evolve. We have been working on this for months. It is just a coincidence that this deal was done shortly before the Patent Trolls at 1st Tech pinched the domains.

Sure, Calvin.

On an unrelated note, I'm looking to buy a bridge - would you by coincidence happen to have one for sale?

 

[jetset]

He certainly seems to be putting a brave face on it, but we're seeing one side of a story here and by the looks of it 1st Technologies are holding their fire until they get into court, when the 'humourous' aspect of this could be a case of "he who laughs last laughs loudest."

Given the list of online gambling companies that have licensed the 1st Technologies patent, I'm surprised that noone at Bodog seems to have heard of the company or Scott Lewis.

But quite apart from the personal chutzpah and chest-thumping, this is another interesting development because again it shows the direction Bodog is taking to fight the 1st Technologies case.

They certainly have a lot riding on Alwyn Morris and his company, which makes his response to Nash's questions even more pertinent - I presume nothing further has been heard from him?

 

[NASHVEGAS]

He certainly seems to be putting a brave face on it, but we're seeing one side of a story here and by the looks of it 1st Technologies are holding their fire until they get into court, when the 'humourous' aspect of this could be a case of "he who laughs last laughs loudest."

Given the list of online gambling companies that have licensed the 1st Technologies patent, I'm surprised that noone at Bodog seems to have heard of the company or Scott Lewis.

But quite apart from the personal chutzpah and chest-thumping, this is another interesting development because again it shows the direction Bodog is taking to fight the 1st Technologies case.

They certainly have a lot riding on Alwyn Morris and his company, which makes his response to Nash's questions even more pertinent - I presume nothing further has been heard from him?

I have checked around but have seen nothing from Morris and would assume Morris may listen to his legal counsel (and remain silent) and not make some of the mistakes Calvin appears to be making based on the recent narcissism in his blogs. I can only imagine what Calvin's legal counsel is thinking.

 

[lojo]

All I see here is someone who has absolutely no respect for intellectual or industrial property rights.
Did ya mess up CA? Did ya think you didn't have to play by the rules like everybody else? Can you admit you are wrong and settle up?
I see him calling Lewis a patent troll, but CA never denies THAT HE STOLE SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY (err used it without permission, yeah)

What a joke.

 

[Mousey]

I realize I'm probably repeating myself, but this is bugging me.

What I still want to know is... why isn't RTG being hit with this? (I am assuming here that RTG has not paid and signed an agreement w/1st Technologies. Please someone correct me if there is information to the contrary.)

I've seen that Playtech software ponied up for 1st Techonolgy rights -- but not individual Playtech casinos.

So... while I have no particular fondness for Ayre, I still don't quite see how the judgement can be brought against a single RTG casino for not having a paid license to use whatever that super duper thingy is that 1st Technologies holds the patent on.

And while I'm asking silly questions... did we ever find out who actually owns RTG now??

 

[jetset]

Perhaps 1st Technologies have found out how hard it is to even communicate with RTG these days, let alone serve process on them in their new Central American domicile. They're also probably not as profitable a target....and perhaps they have been cleverer than Bodog in regard to US-attachable assets.

Nothing has come to light yet on the new Bodog ownership....nor has it been confirmed that there was even a takeover. Plenty of rumours but no fact, and the possibility of a little subterfuge cannot be ruled out imo - McMain is still the CEO, after all.

And Bodog has it's own unique version of the software.

One more thought seeing as we're speculating - if you wanted to make a high profile statement that might persuade more companies to take you seriously and license, what better target than Bodog....for all the above reasons...and the likely reaction from Calvin?.

 

[Casinomeister]

Perhaps 1st Technologies have found out how hard it is to even communicate with RTG these days, let alone serve process on them in their new Central American domicile. They're also probably not as profitable a target....and perhaps they have been cleverer than Bodog in regard to US-attachable assets.

I can attest to that. RTG has pretty much made themselves "untouchable"

Nothing has come to light yet on the new Bodog ownership....nor has it been confirmed that there was even a takeover...

You mean RTG. At first, I thought I missed something in this thread.

One more thought seeing as we're speculating - if you wanted to make a high profile statement that might persuade more companies to take you seriously and license, what better target than Bodog....for all the above reasons...and the likely reaction from Calvin?.

Yep, makes sense.

Admin note. I'm removing the references to child sex and drug dealing from the banned user's comments. CHAINSAWDAVE tried signing up again in this forum under the disguise of Coolhandluke, but Vortran007 - my forum bouncer - booted him out before he could start spewing his spewage.

 

[Mousey]

US-attachable assets

And that may be the straw that at least puts a crimp in the camel's back.

 

[jetset]

I can attest to that. RTG has pretty much made themselves "untouchable"


You mean RTG. At first, I thought I missed something in this thread.


Yep, makes sense.

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Oops! Yeah, you're right - I meant RTG ownership - fingers typing one way - brain going the other LOL!!

 

[Random#rs]

Well we seem to be looking for faults in Calvin today, but Bodog always treated me right; just the opposite of the clip shot joints down there. I don't blame him for the slow pays to the U.S., everybody knows what's going on. In time, I think this will be fixed.

His software ... the 1Tech software ... I haven't heard diddly on the details here. Compression software?! There's a lot of this kind of software and none of its unique. Maybe Spearmaster could shed some light on this.....

Is this a hate Calvin fest; why? We haven't heard all the facts yet. If he creates a decent Casino that's decent to its players then I'd give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

On a side-note: I do love that place on the Island of the Dominican Rep he has down there. (in his blog) ... aah ... I'd like to try one of those Dominican Cigars he's got too!!

 

[NASHVEGAS]

Well we seem to be looking for faults in Calvin today, but Bodog always treated me right; just the opposite of the clip shot joints down there. I don't blame him for the slow pays to the U.S., everybody knows what's going on. In time, I think this will be fixed.

His software ... the 1Tech software ... I haven't heard diddly on the details here. Compression software?! There's a lot of this kind of software and none of its unique. Maybe Spearmaster could shed some light on this.....

Is this a hate Calvin fest; why? We haven't heard all the facts yet. If he creates a decent Casino that's decent to its players then I'd give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

On a side-note: I do love that place on the Island of the Dominican Rep he has down there. (in his blog) ... aah ... I'd like to try one of those Dominican Cigars he's got too!!

No hate fest here. I am just delusional and hallucinating........I will get a doctor's appt. on Monday.

 

[jetset]

Further Bodog domain change

Looks like another Bodog domain change - this release just out:

September 18, 2007

St. Johns, Antigua

High stakes, hot women and killer parties in exotic locales - Bodog has always known how to roll. It's all part of the company's play hard philosophy and now it's all part of the Bodog life, as the digital entertainment giant is pleased to announce the launch of www.bodoglife.com

Recently, there have been changes at Bodog concerning the company's domain name. Bodog temporarily used newbodog.com after their root domain was hijacked in a frivolous patent dispute. In an effort to move to a more accurately-named home, the company is pleased to announce bodoglife.com.

"Hey, the world changes, and if you don't change with it, you get left behind. We've been leading the good times for a long time, and nobody will leave us behind," said Calvin Ayre, Bodog's founder. "That said, although the Bodog address is changing the bottom line is: at Bodog, it's business as usual. Same great site, just a new Web address."

Though the domain dispute caused some drama throughout the company, a talented staff of over 1000 people rallied together and maintained the billion dollar business on a strong growth curve during one of the busiest seasons.

In addition to debuting the new domains, the company launched a Football Fantasy site, announced the winner of their Bodog Battle of the Bands contest on fuse TV, launched multilingual customer service, had a Bodog qualifier at the final table of the World Series of Poker Europe and put a new season of Bodog Fight into post-production. Phew.

Bodog is still the most trusted place on the planet to get your kicks, whether they be poker, music, mixed martial arts, casino or sports betting.

This is Bodog. This is the life.

www.bodoglife.com. Play hard.

 

[bruceleo]

So this new domain seems to be THE new bodog site. I think the legal battle it's lost then.

 

[NASHVEGAS]

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posted on 24 Sep 2007 by Calvin Ayre.

Click to play "Dueling Banjos"

The Patent Trolls over at 1st Tech have put together a case that has more holes than a golf course and smells worse than 100 pounds of raw meat left to rot in a back alley dumpster during a 2-month-old garbage strike.


On October 11th, 2007 Bodog and 1st Technology LLC will meet in Nevada court to argue the default judgment handed down to the gaming company by judge for the Superior Court of Kings County in Seattle, Washington. 1st Technology is saying the $48 million judgment is fair and good because Bodog was infringing upon its patent (United States Patent No. 5,564,001 entitled “Method and System for Interactively Transmitting Multimedia Information Over a Network which Requires a Reduced Bandwidth”) while operating out of the United States.

Prior to issuing those claims, 1st Tech should have done a more thorough job with their research. Here are the facts:

Bodog Entertainment SA the CR company is an international company and it does not have a presence in the United States and is not part of the Bodog Group of Companies and has no assets. Domains are not assets and the domains it held were on behalf of other companies.

United States patent disputes are not possible against an international company that does not operate within the United States, particularly one that does not have any operations that could even use a patented process.

Nobody involved with the company that was sued or anyone with BodogLife has any knowledge of anyone getting served and this is the basis of the appeal of the judgment on Oct 11th. You cannot have a valid default judgment without having valid service as far as we know.


We believe this ridiculous decision will be overturned and all the domains will be freed. However they will not be returned to their previous roll of prominence in Bodog's operating entities as this roll will be taken by the new BodogLife.com structure from here forward. My guess is that no matter what the outcome of this legal process, Raymond Niro and the 1st Tech Patent Trolls will never see anything but ridicule coming from Bodog as we have been clear since first finding out what these guys were doing when they grabbed the domains….the company they are in court with is not part of the Bodog group anymore, has zero operations and zero assets…and the BodogLife Gaming Group of Companies does not operate in the United States. They will spend a lot of money and we will generate a lot of press but they will figure this out eventually. Oh ya…did I mention they never served us?

This entry was posted on Monday, September 24th, 2007 at 6:57 pm

 

[jetset]

Googling Raymond Niro delivers quite a lot of information, including this:

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By the looks of that blog entry Bodog's central defence remains pretty much the same - that they weren't served properly.

"Nobody involved with the company that was sued or anyone with BodogLife has any knowledge of anyone getting served and this is the basis of the appeal of the judgment on Oct 11th. You cannot have a valid default judgment without having valid service as far as we know."

Presumably Mohawk Morris will be the people appearing in court on the Bodog side in Nevada next month - that is going to be one very interesting hearing.

 

[NASHVEGAS]

Googling Raymond Niro delivers quite a lot of information, including this:

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By the looks of that blog entry Bodog's central defence remains pretty much the same - that they weren't served properly.

Presumably Mohawk Morris will be the people appearing in court on the Bodog side in Nevada next month - that is going to be one very interesting hearing.

Can't even take a 20 minute break before you beat moi to it...............Now I planned on checking TheColdEye but I bet (npi) you get there first

 

[jetset]

Nope - Paddy has some interesting things to say but speaking personally I tend to worry about reliability when these are overlaid with such abusive and markedly subjective personal comments.

 

[NASHVEGAS]

Nope - Paddy has some interesting things to say but speaking personally I tend to worry about reliability when these are overlaid with such abusive and markedly subjective personal comments.

Absolutely agree on all counts above JS. Random#rs makes some excellent points in regards to Paddy in the last paragraph of Post#134.

 

[NASHVEGAS]

It appears Niro has a sucessful track record from the article pursuant to the link Jetset provided.

 

[jetset]

BODOG TO APPEAL NEVADA PATENT RULING IN OCTOBER

But 1st Technologies have hired some big legal guns

There could be fireworks in Nevada on October 11 when Bodog, presumably in the form of its Morris Mohawk brand licensee, faces off against 1st Technologies in the first face-to-face clash of the patent dispute that has thus far cost Bodog its brands (see previous InfoPowa reports)

According to Bodog boss Calvin Ayre's blog, the two sides will argue the validity of the default judgment handed down to the gaming company by Nevada judiciary and a judge in the Superior Court of King's County in Seattle, Washington.

1st Technology claims the $48 million default judgment is fair and good because Bodog (which was not present to contest the claim) infringed its United States Patent No. 5,564,001 entitled "Method and System for Interactively Transmitting Multimedia Information Over a Network which Requires a Reduced Bandwidth" while operating in the United States.

Giving a hint at the defence strategy, Ayre writes that Bodog Entertainment SA as a Costa Rican company is an international entity that has neither a presence or assets in the United States. He adds that it is not part of the Bodog Group of Companies and has no assets, because domains are not assets and the domains it held were on behalf of other unspecified companies.

Domain names are a part of the world community based on ICANN's charter and mission statement, which brings into question whether or not they could or should be seized.

Bodog's main defence, though seems to rest on its contention that it was not properly served on the Nevada patent action, thus destroying the allegation that it was in default at the hearing.

Ayre writes: "Nobody involved with the company that was sued or anyone with BodogLife [a new brand recently launched as a consequence of the patent dispute] has any knowledge of anyone getting served and this is the basis of the appeal of the judgment on Oct 11th. You cannot have a valid default judgment without having valid service as far as we know."

Describing the court's decision as "ridiculous" Ayre goes on to opine that it will be overturned and the domains reinstated as Bodog's. However, the new BodogLife brand will continue to be the group's prominent brand going forward.

Patents issued by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office grew to 165 485 last year from 96 727 in 1990. Patent-infringement lawsuits, meanwhile, doubled to 2 400 from 1988 to 2001, according to the National Academy of Sciences.

Bodog's lawyers will face a formidable adversary in court, it appears. 1st Technologies is represented by one of the most successful patent action law firms in the United States - the 26-lawyer Chicago firm of Niro, Scavone, Haller &. Niro, devoted exclusively to plaintiffs intellectual actions, often on a contingency basis where the company gets 45 percent of proceeds from a license, jury verdict or settlement.

The head of the firm, Raymond Niro has won dozens of patent-related jury verdicts worth more than $400 million, according to Law.com. Among his truimphs Niro won one of Colorado's biggest patent-infringement cases in 1997 when a Denver jury awarded inventor Ron Chasteen $57 million from snowmobile maker Polaris Industries and its engine supplier, Fuji Heavy Industries. An appeals court boosted the award to roughly $95 million.

Other major cases include the Research in Motion action, where the Canadian maker of BlackBerry hand-held e-mail devices, settled with NTP Inc. of Virginia on March 3 this year for $612.5 million. RIM refused to pay royalties to NTP for its wireless e-mail technology but lost at trial and faced a potential shutdown.

Another was the miniscule patent holder Freedom Wireless, which won a $148.1 million award from Boston Communications Group and four other companies last year in an infringement case over a patent for prepaid cellphone systems, whilst in a dispute between Denver-based Qwest with Texas company PhoneTel, more than a dozen technology and telecommunications companies settled on caller-ID technology developed by deceased Japanese inventor Kazuo Hashimoto. All settlements exceeded $65 million.

Law.com succinctly observes: "Raymond Niro sues first, settles fast, and collects millions..."

 

[NASHVEGAS]

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There is nothing but silence from Alwyn Morris, one of Canada's most respected native leaders, over a claim by BC con man Calvin Ayre that he has entered into a criminal conspiracy with Morris' company, Morris Mohawk Gaming.

In probably the first time a criminal conspiracy has been announced in a press release, Ayre said that Morris Mohawk had entered into a licensing agreement that would see it operate all of Bodog's gaming operations in North America, which is essentially the US so far as Bodog operations go. All of Bodog's operations in the US are against the criminal law of that country and a number of similar operations and individuals have been, or are being, prosecuted there and jail terms have resulted.

Section 465 (3) of Canada's Criminal Code says,

(3) Every one who, while in Canada, conspires with any one to do anything referred to in subsection (1) in a place outside Canada that is an offence under the laws of that place shall be deemed to have conspired to do that thing in Canada.

This section of the criminal law would appear to be capable of bringing not only Alwyn Morris, but Calvin Ayre, before the Canadian courts on charges of conspiring in Canada to violate the United States Code. However, it must be remembered that the only link that Morris has to this crime is a claim by Ayre in a press release, and a quote supposedly from Morris that would indicate he actually is in the agreement. Until some concrete affirmation of his involvement is made by Morris himself through credible sources, no one should consider the Order of Canada holder as part of this conspiracy. However, concrete affirmation could take the form of Morris appearing as a party in any US court action seeking to reverse the recent judgments against Bodog in Nevada and Washington courts.


The Mohawk Gambit, as it is now called, appears to be the best Ayre can do as a strategy in dealing with the devastating legal actions brought on by 1st Technology LLC, a Nevada company that holds a patent on processes within the Bodog gaming software and on which Bodog has refused to acquire a license and pay royalties. As part of the legal actions, 1st Technology has gained control of Bodog's domain names, resulting in a very serious loss of search engine ranking for Bodog with typical gaming search queries. The transparent strategy appears to be to claim that an agreement existed between Bodog and Morris to operate the licenses, which would include the lost domains, that predated the court's judgment and hence Morris had a right to operate the domains that should not be lost by the claims against Bodog.

It's typical Calvin Ayre, nothing really different than the criminal approach he has been taking to business since his Bicer Medical days. Undoubtably, no agreement ever existed with Morris prior to the 1st Tech actions. Any claim to the contrary would have to involve perjury if brought to the US courts, as well as charges of conspiracy to obstruct justice.

Ayre may soon be seeing the inside of a Canadian courtroom at any rate. Some years ago, he perjured himself in an affidavit filed in BC Supreme Court in support of his sister Anita Ayre aka Anita Eden in a child custody dispute. In what was the most preposterous of a string of lies advanced by Ayre/Eden, Calvin Ayre swore under oath that he had nothing to do with a 1987 marijuana smuggling scheme that resulted in a four year sentence for his father, Kenneth Ayre. A private information charging perjury against Calvin Ayre, and conspiracy to obstruct justice against both Calvin Ayre and Anita Ayre/Eden will be filed in October in provincial court in Vancouver.

Don't be surprised if his defense has something to do with Mohawks.

 

[Casinomeister]

Hi NASHVEGAS,

I'm not sure that I want this stuff here. The coldeye website is run by a guy who has been banned here twice for violating rule 1.6 and 1.11

1.6 - No "Libelous" Posts. Do not make posts that could be considered libelous, defamatory, or posting merely to cause harm to another's business. Opinions are expected, but do not attack others with accusations of criminal activity unless this has been proven in a court of law.

1.11 - Please do not exploit this board to promote your own personal agenda. If the moderators (and members) feel that you are spamming the board with links to your website, etc., your account may be suspended.

When you copy these ramblings and paste them here, you are giving this guy a platform that I really don't care to give. I don't mind you discussing these matters, but simply copying and pasting his posts undermine his banishment.

Thanks for your undersatnding.