New Slot Announcement Big Time Gaming - Who Wants To Be A Millionaire

[snorky510238]

Still waiting for my surprise. Over 100 bonus rounds and still no win above x200 and only a handful over x100.

This is standard for me.

 

[snorky510238]

Nothing about this game is random. People moan about Bonanza but it’s not in the same league as this trash.

 

[Mr_Slot5]

It's just a volatile game. Yes, most bonus rounds are utter trash but that's because a) the feature comes more often than bonanza and b) both the base game and bonus has a lot more potential than bonanza

Don't forget, the 117k ways shows up in bonus a lot more than in bonanza (where I've not even seen it once). A lot more of the RTP in this game will be skewed into the hyper wins.

By the way, I agree it's a very harsh game. The volatility in the bonus is slightly too high for my liking but there are many people who will love it, even if you are left frustrated more often than not.

 

[snorky510238]

It's just a volatile game. Yes, most bonus rounds are utter trash but that's because a) the feature comes more often than bonanza and b) both the base game and bonus has a lot more potential than bonanza

Don't forget, the 117k ways shows up in bonus a lot more than in bonanza (where I've not even seen it once). A lot more of the RTP in this game will be skewed into the hyper wins.

By the way, I agree it's a very harsh game. The volatility in the bonus is slightly too high for my liking but there are many people who will love it, even if you are left frustrated more often than not.

Yes that’s the problem the volatility in the bonus round is way to high. I have never hit a half decent win in over 100 rounds.

I have never seen the 117 in the bonus round on Bonanza either and I have probably had in the region of 1,000 bonuses. Mind you now I have found out how bonus rounds can be controlled via different reel strips, the amount of ways being restricted by number weighting, the actual chance of a symbol landing being controlled by the same method etc,etc nothing surprises me really.

I mean take it to the extreme in the providers eyes you could have a slot with 100 0’s per reel and 1 X (winning symbol) on a one liner and it would still qualify as random.

 

[Full tilt]

I’ve had the 117k screen a couple of times on Millionaire and was lucky enough to have a sea of 9’s fall in paying over 800X on one of them. I’ve never seen the 117 screen on Bonanza either and like Snorky I must have had over 1000 bonus screens on that infernal game.
I’ve never gambled the free spins on this or Chilli and my bonuses have ranged from 4 to 1150x: I just collect the initial spins offered and hope the server is in a generous mood!

 

[Mavericksss]

Guys. I made around 30k spins and never seen 100x+ bet in main game. Max hit x400 in bonus, but so many x2-x10 given their rarity. I dont know why i play in this game and i dont understand how this game obtain a license. Even in the most low-volatility Netent slots you can hits so many times x100+ in base game on this distance. Even funny to compare. BTG impressive with its games. Never play this game, my rtp around 60% on now moment

 

[snorky510238]

I have given this game a number of sessions recently and played it consistently since release. There is something very wrong with this game. If the volatility is that high then surely by now we should be seeing some absolute monsters from this slot.

I may of missed them but so don’t see 1 single screenshot of anything remotely decent. All I get is the same repetitive drivel session after session.

Remember when the game launched I am pretty sure there was a competition or a prize for the first spin person to hit 50 free spins. I have a feeling @SteveBr won it but I could be wrong. It’s probably on this thread but don’t have time to search. My point being since then I haven’t seen 1 shot of anyone getting 20. My personal best is 18.

I worked out the odds of hitting the 50 free spins once (again probably on this thread somewhere) it is over 1,000,000 - 1. How could they run a competition and know with those sort of odds that somebody would achieve it in just a few weeks? The only way is if someone had a little assistance from the software that’s how.

Anyway I am done with this game after my recent efforts

 

[IM_SPORTS]

where are you getting 1 in 1,000,000 from?

 

[Siohmy]

Yes that’s the problem the volatility in the bonus round is way to high. I have never hit a half decent win in over 100 rounds.

I have never seen the 117 in the bonus round on Bonanza either and I have probably had in the region of 1,000 bonuses. Mind you now I have found out how bonus rounds can be controlled via different reel strips, the amount of ways being restricted by number weighting, the actual chance of a symbol landing being controlled by the same method etc,etc nothing surprises me really.

I mean take it to the extreme in the providers eyes you could have a slot with 100 0’s per reel and 1 X (winning symbol) on a one liner and it would still qualify as random.

So Laser Fruit then?

 

[SteveBr]

Remember when the game launched I am pretty sure there was a competition or a prize for the first spin person to hit 50 free spins. I have a feeling @SteveBr won it but I could be wrong. It’s probably on this thread but don’t have time to search. My point being since then I haven’t seen 1 shot of anyone getting 20. My personal best is 18.

Yes I did get the 50 free spins, but didn’t win the BTG competition. I got it at Rizk and I think it was only running on Leo Vegas.

I think @goatwack’s mate got a huge win on 20p a while back, can’t remember his name but the guy who can’t post screenshots...

This is the video of my win

 

[snorky510238]

where are you getting 1 in 1,000,000 from?

The accumulative odds of getting from 8 spins to 50. What do you make it?

 

[IM_SPORTS]

The accumulative odds of getting from 8 spins to 50. What do you make it?

cant be 1 in 1 million lol

you cant even work it out anywya because you dont know if the game is going to give u 50/50 or give u 80% chances on every pie gamble.

 

[IM_SPORTS]

and if someone got it on here and posted it then i seriously doubt its 1 in 1 millino chance.

 

[snorky510238]

where are you getting 1 in 1,000,000 from?

The accumulative odds of getting from 8 spins to 50. What do you make itv

and if someone got it on here and posted it then i seriously doubt its 1 in 1 millino chance.

Yes it does depend on how many 50/50s you get. I remember working it out and yes over 1,000,000 was based on 2 50/50s on average to be fair you should expect 3 or 4.

4 still gives odds of over 250,000 and 3 is over 500,000. By my reckoning.

 

[IM_SPORTS]

its only 11 gambles at 50/50 probably even easier then that because u get 80% pie gambles
10 reds in a row on roulette is only 1 in 1 in 1376 chance.

 

[IM_SPORTS]

1 in 2
1 in 4
1 in 8
1 in 16
1 in 32
1 in 64
1 in 128
1 in 256
1 in 512
1 in 1024
1 in 2048 (11 gambles at 50/50)

 

[IM_SPORTS]

The accumulative odds of getting from 8 spins to 50. What do you make itv

Yes it does depend on how many 50/50s you get. I remember working it out and yes over 1,000,000 was based on 2 50/50s on average to be fair you should expect 3 or 4.

4 still gives odds of over 250,000 and 3 is over 500,000. By my reckoning.

i dont know where you get those huge numbers from

 

[snorky510238]

It depends on how you look at. I know what your saying in as much as you can only be right or wrong so in essence they are all 50/50 gambles.

What I was basing it on is that PaF and AtA are presented as a 1 in 4 chance.

 

[IM_SPORTS]

It depends on how you look at. I know what your saying in as much as you can only be right or wrong so in essence they are all 50/50 gambles.

What I was basing it on is that PaF and AtA are presented as a 1 in 4 chance.

oh right i see

 

[snorky510238]

1 in 2
1 in 4
1 in 8
1 in 16
1 in 32
1 in 64
1 in 128
1 in 256
1 in 512
1 in 1024
1 in 2048 (11 gambles at 50/50)

Yeah that’s correct.

 

[IM_SPORTS]

its impossible to work out anyway. every gamble is different

what i do know is that gambling to 50 free spins is just not worth it and in my opinion you are right this game sucks (i know you didn't exactly say that but that's what i think of this game)

 

[IM_SPORTS]

i have come to the idea that gambling bonuses in general is just not a good idea.
these slots know what they are going to pay you and gambling to win a bonus which is probably not going to be much better is just bad
in my opinion

 

[snorky510238]

Yes the amount of times I have played it and never hit anything big is unbelievable. Just makes me think the chances are so slim it’s not worth the bother.

 

[IM_SPORTS]

Yes the amount of times I have played it and never hit anything big is unbelievable. Just makes me think the chances are so slim it’s not worth the bother.

that's my record on the game you can see i haven't played it much.

seeing your screenshots has kind of put me off what I was going to do. I was going to try at least a few thousand spins on the game.

 

[IM_SPORTS]

my rtp

 

[IM_SPORTS]

keep in mind where it says biggest win £174 that was when i had 20 free spins at £3 stake. 55x

 

[IM_SPORTS]

double post

 

[IM_SPORTS]

i have played it on other sites too. from my experience it just offers so much but produces little
when you have 10 free spins left in the bonus and you are sitting on a 15x multiplier and you have a screen that is full of megaways you expect to at least get some wins but most of the time you will get nothing just dead spins
i can say the same for every btg slot. they all offer so much and produce little

 

[johnnymcc1966]

My best hit on this game was a base game hit of 75 pounds from a 60p spin. Best bonus was 60 pounds from 10 60p spins but mostly bonuses are lucky if I break the 10 pounds barrier from 60p spins. I think its an awful game in terms of payouts but does look good on the eye.

 

[snorky510238]

i have played it on other sites too. from my experience it just offers so much but produces little
when you have 10 free spins left in the bonus and you are sitting on a 15x multiplier and you have a screen that is full of megaways you expect to at least get some wins but most of the time you will get nothing just dead spins
i can say the same for every btg slot. they all offer so much and produce little

Yes the problem with the megaways reel strips is that they have clusters of the same symbol so unless you are lucky enough to line them up they act more as blockers on reels 2 and especially 3 thus minimising cascades and controlling the multiplier.

Very clever Btg offering massive potential but nullifying it in the process.

 

[sufferinsilence]

I like the look of this slot and how smooth it feels. Gave it a good go and had never more than 20 spins but my best result came from a straight up 8 spins walk away at 330x. The whole gamble free spins thing is just not my thing.

 

[brianmon]

No Comment..

 

[Luckyscouser45]

My best win on millionaire was a few months ago I play it sporadically as it takes the absolute piss. The win I had was originally 8 spins but got a few retriggers. Any game were you can lose the bonus is scum in my oppinion.

 

[Siohmy]

I still don’t understand how people are still insisting that the gambles on the BTG slots make no difference to the likelyhood of a good bonus.

 

[snorky510238]

It depends if you believe in predetermined or not. Either way there is no proof. Only that theoretically it leads you to obviously think it has better potential (more spins more wins) but how many games pay more time and time again with a lower starting trigger and how many turn out awful with a higher number of starting spins?

Look at @Luckyscouser45. £2,800 odd off 8 spins. Who’s to say if she had started with 24 it would have paid more?

 

[goatwack]

No Comment..

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I'm pretty sure the 117,000+ 'ways' are just there to tilt, so don't feel bad haha

Given that they should hit MORE yet whenever one pops out from the shadows it tends to miss. Hmmmmm

Still utter filth, mind

 

[goatwack]

It depends if you believe in predetermined or not. Either way there is no proof. Only that theoretically it leads you to obviously think it has better potential (more spins more wins) but how many games pay more time and time again with a lower starting trigger and how many turn out awful with a higher number of starting spins?

Look at @Luckyscouser45. £2,800 odd off 8 spins. Who’s to say if she had started with 24 it would have paid more?

There's every chance that 8 could have been gambled and lost, and we would have never known about her heroics.

Which yes, makes one think whether the gamble feature is nothing more than a 2nd chance for the provider

 

[snorky510238]

There's every chance that 8 could have been gambled and lost, and we would have never known about her heroics.

Which yes, makes one think whether the gamble feature is nothing more than a 2nd chance for the provider

Yes also with that in mind it makes you think the game must be able to adapt in some way concerning rtp. Hypothetically if 100 people gamble and lose and their accumulative win would of been 2k then compared with the opposite scenario the game has to play differently than it would of to keep rtp in line.

Maybe @Luckyscouser45 had a one off rtp adjuster donated by all the people who lost gambles.

 

[Luckyscouser45]

It depends if you believe in predetermined or not. Either way there is no proof. Only that theoretically it leads you to obviously think it has better potential (more spins more wins) but how many games pay more time and time again with a lower starting trigger and how many turn out awful with a higher number of starting spins?

Look at @Luckyscouser45. £2,800 odd off 8 spins. Who’s to say if she had started with 24 it would have paid more?

It’s all mind games the 8 spins will pay if it wants to

Yes also with that in mind it makes you think the game must be able to adapt in some way concerning rtp. Hypothetically if 100 people gamble and lose and their accumulative win would of been 2k then compared with the opposite scenario the game has to play differently than it would of to keep rtp in line.

Maybe @Luckyscouser45 had a one off rtp adjuster donated by all the people who lost gambles.

probably hahahaha that makes sense actually!

 

[goatwack]

So we're all agreed the gamble feature is a hoax and not needed, excellent

What's....what's that car pulling up outside.....men in suits with black water pistols.....walking towards my door

Must be Jehovah's Witnesses, I'll let them in

 

[Siohmy]

It depends if you believe in predetermined or not. Either way there is no proof. Only that theoretically it leads you to obviously think it has better potential (more spins more wins) but how many games pay more time and time again with a lower starting trigger and how many turn out awful with a higher number of starting spins?

Look at @Luckyscouser45. £2,800 odd off 8 spins. Who’s to say if she had started with 24 it would have paid more?

So you are picking one specific example of a highly unusual and exceptional 8 spin bonus and using that as proof that it is never worth gambling the feature? Fair enough.

Let’s assume for one minute it isn’t pre-determined because, I don’t know, BTG say it isn’t and that UKGC are not complicit in covering up a lie. It will be occasionally possible for the slot to cascade a number of times in one spin and then throw a nice coordinated screen in for a big win off one spin. Haven’t seen the vid or pic of the win you mention but I’m guessing it comes off effectively one big spin, two max, probably after a modest but lengthy cascade? Well that’s pretty much how this slots works isn’t it?

More spins gives more chance for this event to happen but is in no way a guarantee it will. Even in the base game WWTBAM can go a number of spins without a win.

Now one thing I will concede is that how the reel sets are selected for each spin is a bit of a mystery. Does it feature less win enriched sets when you get 50 spins. I would like to think not and I doubt very much the slot can use different setups in a bonus purely based on number of spins awarded.

Also, why in the world would BTG not want huge wins to come off more spins? Slightly backward thinking if that were true.

FYI, yes I do quite like BTG slots mainly because many of them do not end my 200x bankroll within half an hour but by no means are they perfect. Certainly the wait for features can be terminally dull. However, I struggle to understand the vitriol against them at times when other manufacturers include far more dubious dynamics into their slots, often just to produce the headline making hits everyone apparently wants to see.

 

[snorky510238]

I think @Luckyscouser45 hit a full screen of purple chillis. At least that’s how she described it. I did work out how many she would of needed for the win and it wasn’t as many as you may think. Always meant to ask if it was just purples and no other symbol.

I have read numerous posts where taking 8 spins has paid a good return and constantly see posts where larger amounts pay nothing. Look at the Bonanza thread last night. @pinnit hit the dream and extremely rarely seen 27 spin start and it paid awfully.

What I am saying here is let’s not be naive. There will be more built into slots than we imagine. When I first came to the forum I knew slots didn’t work exactly the way we are lead to believe but I didn’t know how.

I still don’t exactly but the information I have gathered has helped me understand things a lot better and then the x% I can’t be told accounts for the rest.

When I say let’s not be naive I mean there’s a competition to reach 50 spins. How bad would it of looked if the comp ran for months and nobody hit it. Worst publicity ever. It was a given that someone would hit it. Whether randomly chosen who knows but it was a cert but never seen since.

Then you have the different usage of reel strips. It doesn’t tell you about that on the front of the box. The 117,649 ways uses different reel strips in the base game. God knows how many different strips in the bonus round so even if you hit 50 spins you may get the worst reel sets and 8 spins may get the best.

Another thing that crossed my mind with the unlimited multiplier is that I don’t believe for a second that you could let the bonuses play out truly randomly on a megaways slot and have it retain its correct rtp. The deviations and variables would be enormous even testing billions of spins would prove very little.

 

[Luckyscouser45]

I think @Luckyscouser45 hit a full screen of purple chillis. At least that’s how she described it. I did work out how many she would of needed for the win and it wasn’t as many as you may think. Always meant to ask if it was just purples and no other symbol.

I have read numerous posts where taking 8 spins has paid a good return and constantly see posts where larger amounts pay nothing. Look at the Bonanza thread last night. @pinnit hit the dream and extremely rarely seen 27 spin start and it paid awfully.

What I am saying here is let’s not be naive. There will be more built into slots than we imagine. When I first came to the forum I knew slots didn’t work exactly the way we are lead to believe but I didn’t know how.

I still don’t exactly but the information I have gathered has helped me understand things a lot better and then the x% I can’t be told accounts for the rest.

When I say let’s not be naive I mean there’s a competition to reach 50 spins. How bad would it of looked if the comp ran for months and nobody hit it. Worst publicity ever. It was a given that someone would hit it. Whether randomly chosen who knows but it was a cert but never seen since.

Then you have the different usage of reel strips. It doesn’t tell you about that on the front of the box. The 117,649 ways uses different reel strips in the base game. God knows how many different strips in the bonus round so even if you hit 50 spins you may get the worst reel sets and 8 spins may get the best.

Another thing that crossed my mind with the unlimited multiplier is that I don’t believe for a second that you could let the bonuses play out truly randomly on a megaways slot and have it retain its correct rtp. The deviations and variables would be enormous even testing billions of spins would prove very little.

It was a whole screen still salivating thinking of the beauty of it wish I would of got the screenshot but I was laying down not really paying attention half asleep thinking here we go another shit bonus round!!

 

[snorky510238]

What was the multiplier on? From memory I think you said x4 but not sure.

 

[Luckyscouser45]

Yep x4 and it was the fourth spin

 

[snorky510238]

Yeah so essentially 72 ways of purples. There are a few different combinations that it could have delivered to reach the total. Which if I remember right was £2,880 on 20p.

 

[Luckyscouser45]

Yeah so essentially 72 ways of purples. There are a few different combinations that it could have delivered to reach the total. Which if I remember right was £2,880 on 20p.

Always big hits on 20p for some reason

 

[Siohmy]

I think @Luckyscouser45Then you have the different usage of reel strips. It doesn’t tell you about that on the front of the box. The 117,649 ways uses different reel strips in the base game. God knows how many different strips in the bonus round so even if you hit 50 spins you may get the worst reel sets and 8 spins may get the best.

Now this is certainly an area which may contain the relative control elements. As I said, I do not know specifically how these are dealt with on WWTBAM, or Extra Chilli for that matter. You are absolutely right in so much that if the reel sets are chosen at the start of a bonus the 8 spin one mentioned could have had the best one and a 50 spin one which goes for 400x the worst one.

Still, we do not know the %age given to each selection. If that, for example, is 10% you’ll get best reel set then you are still looking at 10% of significantly more attempts at 8 spins than 50 which may number less than 100 total. Even when the best reel set is chosen that is no guarantee of a monster hit.

 

[Jono777]

That screenie from Brianmon is the most sickening I've seen across all BTG games to date

If that is not by design, I'll...................

 

[snorky510238]

I had this on Bonanza. In cash terms the same amount.