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Your Input Please Alternative Depositing Methods - advice required

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by mcgameboy, Feb 23, 2015.

    Feb 23, 2015
  1. mcgameboy

    mcgameboy Screenieholic & Essayist CAG mm2

    Casual Stocktaker (Inventory Counter)
    OK so I'm a UK player who has no passport, drivers licence or CitizenCard.

    Recently I got a letter from my bank who informed me that my Maestro card will expire on February 25th.
    And from that date onwards, I will have to start using (if I haven't already) my Debit Mastercard that is replacing my Maestro card. Note: both these cards are linked to the same bank account. And (for the record), I already have started using the new Debit Mastercard.

    I used both the old and about to expire Maestro card and also the new Debit Mastercard to make deposits at the following casinos...

    32Red Group
    Casino Rewards Group
    Spin Casino

    32Red Group isn't a problem. They process withdrawals back to my Debit Mastercard.
    Spin Casino isn't a problem. They told me they cannot process withdrawals to my Debit Mastercard, but they CAN process withdrawals
    using DBT (Direct Bank Transfer). Crucially, there is no fee for this.

    Casino Rewards however is where the problem lies. They can't pay withdrawals back to my Debit Mastercard (I tried a couple of times only to be
    told by e-mail - from someone in their payments team - that they could not process the withdrawals due to "an invalid bin number").
    However, because my Maestro card had not yet expired (and because it is linked to the same bank account as the Debit Mastercard),
    there was a workaround. I would request payment to the Maestro card instead. And the payments would be processed. Don't ask me why/how this worked out, because frankly, I haven't got a clue. All I know is, I got paid each and every time.

    But come 25th February, that workaround will no longer be an option. Because of this, I have actually not deposited at any Casino Rewards
    casino since February 13th. And it may be some time before I make my next deposit. Reasons why? Well...when it comes to processing withdrawals
    from Casino Rewards, the next "most viable" alternatives I currently have available to me would be by Cheque or by DBT.

    However, payment by cheque comes with a £15 fee. And payment by DBT comes with a £30 free. Neither of these options are in any way
    appealing or attractive to me, particularly DBT as I think the minimum withdrawal amount has to be for £300. And then they immediately take a
    10% cut of that. For a low roller, I find this option to be unappealing bordering on unpalatable.

    So payment to card, cheque and DBT are now of no use to me. Which leaves Neteller, Skrill, EntroPay Card, ClickAndBuy, Paypal as the only options
    available (according to the drop down menu on Casino Rewards banking page).

    However, because of my lack of photographic ID, I would anticipate problems when it comes to getting an account fully verified, were I to
    create an account at Neteller or any of the other e-wallet sites.

    So with all that in mind, I now seek your advice. What are my alternatives? Do I even have one? Will I have to stop playing at Casino Rewards?
    Or will I just have to suck up a £15 fee for payment by cheque every time I make a withdrawal?

    Any advice, as always, is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. :)
  2. Feb 23, 2015
  3. Cocochanel

    Cocochanel Experienced Member

    You dont need a Photoid to open a Netelleraccount
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  4. Feb 23, 2015
  5. Brockie

    Brockie Experienced Member

    Warehouse operative
    Somewhere in Englandshire!
    The Neteller option is a lot more straight forward than you think, as above you will not need photographic evidence to open an account.

    From what I remember, The only thing you will need to provide neteller would be your Iban number to transfer all your winnings back to your bank account. Or get the neteller card and withdraw straight from this.
    There is a fee of 1.9% to transfer money to your neteller account.

    Also the casino will probably ask for a screen grab of you logged into your neteller account.
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  6. Feb 23, 2015
  7. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    STILL At Leisure
    United Kingdom
    The main issue would be the lack of documents for passing "security". This means that sticking with casinos that are already happy with what you have provided is wise. A VISA debit card would probably solve the withdrawal issue, but this would require opening another account with another bank that provides VISA debit rather than MasterCard debit. If you are on the electoral roll, and haven't moved within the last 3 years, the bank will probably not ask you to show ID at a branch in order to open an account.

    KEEP the expired cards as there is always a chance that you will be asked to send in scanned back & front at a future date.

    Neteller CAN ask for photo ID to be sent in, so this may not be as easy as one thinks. However, they also use the tied bank account for verification. They send a small amount of money (pennies) to it, and the customer has to check their bank statement and say exactly how many pence were credited. This produces a "verified" Neteller account, and you can get the Net+ card. Withdrawing cash via ATM using this costs a fee, but it can be used as a purchase card for free, so there is a way of utilising winnings without paying any fees. Neteller can also be funded for free using a bank transfer rather than a card.

    If you tell Casino Rewards about the situation, and explain that you stopped playing because you didn't yet have a working solution for it, they may come up with one themselves rather than lose a customer.
    2 people like this.
  8. Feb 23, 2015
  9. randomiam

    randomiam Meister Member


    skrill is good and they don't want documents unless you want a massive limit i switched from ecocard im saving heaps on transactions as i had credit card issues to i cash upload from my bank and cash back to it as-well
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  10. Feb 23, 2015
  11. Finn

    Finn Senior Member MM

    Skrill didn't ask me photo ID until I qualified for and asked my account to be upgraded to VIP, after this last step of verification they removed all limits, but in principle they may ask for further identification at any moment, according to their policies, and there seems to be some forum threads found in Internet of people complaining how Skrill/Moneybookers suddenly send them e-mail asking for photo ID and utility bill.

    1 person likes this.
  12. Feb 23, 2015
  13. randomiam

    randomiam Meister Member

    i got asked sent the bill and a letter from a gov agency was all good i has no limits made vip ect
  14. Feb 24, 2015
  15. dave1888

    dave1888 Meister Member PABnononaccred2 mm1

    Customer Advisor/Stockroom Picker
    Bonnie Scotland!
    If you withdraw to paypal you have no charges whatsoever you can even withdraw to your bank for free instantly when it arrives in paypal account :cool:
    1 person likes this.
  16. Feb 24, 2015
  17. K2C

    K2C Experienced Member webmeister

    Data analyst
    Maybe this will help your explorations. For each payment method available for UK players I pulled the count of UK-friendly casinos accepting this method. I am leaving the credit cards in the list as the benchmark counts. Also I removed those payment methods accepted in 10 casinos or less.

    Method Casino Count
    Visa 348
    NETELLER 329
    MasterCard 319
    Moneybookers (Skrill) 273
    Ukash 245
    Paysafe Card 215
    EcoPayz (EcoCard) 185
    Maestro 152
    Bank Transfer 145
    EntroPay 140
    Sofortuberweisung 128
    ClickandBuy 123
    InstaDebit 105
    Wire Transfer 98
    Citadel Commerce 94
    PayPal 82
    UseMyFunds 63
    Diners Club 54
    Nordea 48
    American Express 39
    Cheque/ Bank draft 36
    FundSend 31
    Western Union 29
    EZIPay 19
    ENVOY 14
    Moneygram 14
    Bitcoin 13
    Speedcard 12
    2 people like this.
  18. Feb 24, 2015
  19. mcgameboy

    mcgameboy Screenieholic & Essayist CAG mm2

    Casual Stocktaker (Inventory Counter)
    A very big thank you to everyone who replied. Much appreciated :thumbsup::notworthy
    1 person likes this.

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