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ALL US PAYMENT OPTIONS BLOCKED EXCEPT CLICK2PAY

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by footdr, Jan 20, 2007.

    Jan 20, 2007
  1. footdr

    footdr Banned User: PITA violations of the Forum Rules

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    [/BDear Tracey,

    Thank you for contacting The Jackpot Factory VIP Lounge Customer Support regarding reversing your $700 out of Click2Pay.

    Please be advised that our financial department are working on the issue, as we speak. We will contact you as soon as we receive their response.

    However, I also need to update you with the following information - at the moment, all payment options but Click2Pay have blocked the use for U.S. customers. This includes ACH, eChecks and also paper checks. As such, please see if it's possible to address the issue with Click2Pay themselves.

    In addition, I would like to assure you that our Financial Department are checking into other payment options and will keep you posted with any news.

    Should you have any additional comments, please don't hesitate to contact our Customer Service Desk on the toll-free numbers listed below. We are available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week for your convenience.

    Best Regards,

    Alex
    The VIP Lounge
    Jackpot Factory
    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    NO WITHDRAWALS VIA CHECK!!!!! CLICK TO PAY ONLY OPTION
     
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2007
  2. Jan 20, 2007
  3. Sodax77

    Sodax77 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Human Being
    Location:
    EU|FI


    C'mon mods i never promote my site, but there is couple casino in my blog who still accept Credit Cards from USA players. And they will PAID!

    Even one of my fav Casino worker was pissed, because this...
    (even they can not accept US players anymore Legal reason)

    NETeller, etc... why???? :mad:

    What Next?! Freedom?!?!
     
  4. Jan 20, 2007
  5. Addisyn

    Addisyn Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Underground Sewer Access
    I had two withdrawals pending when this all hit the fan. First I diverted them from Neteller to Instadebit. Then Instadebit closed for US players. I contacted both casinos, Crazy Vegas and Sun Palace, and was told my only option was a paper check.

    Click2Pay isn't an option for me since I closed my account way back and when I attempted to reopen it a few months ago it wasn't happening.

    I suppose what US players must do is get a sworn statement from any casino prior to depositing which wouldn't hold up in a court of law since they are out of jurisdiction but what the hell. The sworn statement would promise to hold our funds in perpetuity until such time as the US reopens the ability to transfer funds from an online casino.

    We could call it our nest egg! A forced retirement package. About as secure as Social Security is right now! :lolup:
     
  6. Jan 20, 2007
  7. GrandMaster

    GrandMaster Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Mathematician by day, online gambler by night.
    Location:
    UK
    What is the problem with paper checks? Is there no money in their account, has their account been closed, have they run out of checks?
     
  8. Jan 20, 2007
  9. Sodax77

    Sodax77 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Human Being
    Location:
    EU|FI
    Like i talked with couple managers ~55% came from USA (Players). Even it was 90% few years ago. 55% is quite a lot!

    I didn't read that that law blah blah.... but i guess, we are "terrorist" and there is "money laundering".... etc, etc... :rolleyes:
     
  10. Jan 20, 2007
  11. Mousey

    Mousey Ueber Meister Mouse CAG

    Occupation:
    Pencil Pusher
    Location:
    Up$hitCreek
    Well, I can't sign up at Click2Pay. And their customer service appears to be nonexistent.

    Grrrrrr.... Don't we even get a kiss? :xxx
     
  12. Jan 20, 2007
  13. goodie2shoes

    goodie2shoes Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Retired, RN
    Location:
    California
    I cant believe all this. I was reading this thread earlier and then I emailed my Jackpot Factory VIP and asked them. I got a reply telling me that for now the only way to get any winnings is to have a click2pay account and since I don't have one I wouldn't be able to be paid if in fact I did win. If thats not bad enough IMO the casino management should give us notice before we make anymore deposits. I made many deposits today and not one dam word from them.
     
  14. Jan 20, 2007
  15. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Silly Move

    Well, given the situation, ANY US player would be a fool to deposit there if they have all their "eggs" in the Click2Pay basket. This is something the JF should have told US players on Tuesday, that, unless they had a working Click2Pay account, there would be no final back up method for withdrawals in the worst case scenario we now have. Most assume that the final option is to give up and get everything back by check.
    Even US players with currently working Click2Pay accounts should only withdraw all they can, as there is reason to believe they will pul out completely soon, as they would not want to be the ONLY payment processor in the line of fire of the DoJ!
     
  16. Jan 20, 2007
  17. amatrine

    amatrine Crazy Cat Lady webmeister

    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Arizona City, Az
    Re

    Im kinda comfused. I did an ACH withdral from Instadebit to my bank on Thursday, and it has not entere my bank yet. Is it going to paid? I transfered the money over before this happened.

    Ama
     
  18. Jan 20, 2007
  19. goodie2shoes

    goodie2shoes Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Retired, RN
    Location:
    California

    I don't understand why they cant pay us by a check.
     
  20. Jan 20, 2007
  21. soflat

    soflat Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Scientist
    Location:
    Florida

    I think their excuse is that their payment processor is not allowing it (they've outsourced the payment processing) or else their bank is disallowing it.
     
  22. Jan 20, 2007
  23. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Bullshit

    Inexia (the payment processor) is a wholly owned subsidiary of the company behind Jackpot Factory. If you look at the Inexia website, you will see that their ONLY clients are the JF Casinos.

    Inexia MAY be separate from Jackpot Factory at the customer level, but both companies are owned by the same Israeli outfit, and also the same outfit that owns Spiral Solutions, who market the JF brand.

    They will certainly find a way round this, but it will take time. However, the US may put pressure on the Israeli government to put a stop to this - the Israeli government NEEDS the US.
    If the US really believe that online casinos are "criminal organisations masquerading as legitimate businesses", they will not stop with US players, they will want to put the casinos out of business altogether, bar the ones regulated by "proper" juristictions like the UK, which they will permit the rest of the world to use. If the US loses interest in these casinos once they have stopped Americans playing, they will be showing that this had nothing to do with wanting to cut the funding for organised crime, but more to do with stopping the US citizen from spending their gambling dollars outside the US. (Not that anyone believes any different now!)
     
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  24. Jan 20, 2007
  25. Sodax77

    Sodax77 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Human Being
    Location:
    EU|FI
    Yeah, i know, my English sucks. But whatever i promote in my blog, etc. T&C Apply and You will get Paid! But plese let me know payment options what you can use! (I can suggest same payment system, what Slotland use)

    All other Countries. Do not worry. Just play and get paid!
     
  26. Jan 20, 2007
  27. Pinababy69

    Pinababy69 RIP Lisa

    Occupation:
    Crusader
    Location:
    Toronto, Ontario - Canada
    Soda, no offense, but I'm not entirely sure that trying to encourage people to deposit/play anywhere right now is the proper route to go. Guaranteeing that they will be paid seems a tall order, when no one seems to know what the next hour will bring....nevermind tomorrow or the next day. JMO, again no offense intended.
     
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  28. Jan 20, 2007
  29. Sodax77

    Sodax77 Dormant account

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    EU|FI
    LOL... sorry Pina... i respect u. Really!

    I'm just anxious....

    No further comment :rolleyes:
     
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  30. Jan 20, 2007
  31. slotchik

    slotchik Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Marketing
    Location:
    USA
    It's a scary thing right now...wow
     
  32. Jan 20, 2007
  33. Pinababy69

    Pinababy69 RIP Lisa

    Occupation:
    Crusader
    Location:
    Toronto, Ontario - Canada
    Sometimes Soda it's hard for us to understand, because we're not affected (at least for now). But I try and put myself in the position of someone living in the US, and while it would be so tempting to go and deposit (if you could) just to play..you have to think about the longer term and getting paid. Everything just seems too volatile right now to recommend to anyone in the US to play. I know you mean well, I wish I could fix it for them too. But no one can, not today anyway.

    I'm still trying to figure out how Soflat can get his money that he has tied up in pending cashouts. :oops:
     
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  34. Jan 20, 2007
  35. REOdeathwagon

    REOdeathwagon Experienced Member

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    arizona
    What confuses me the most VWM, is that, at no time has the US government gone after a online casino or poker room. That I have heard of.

    The US government has gone after online sportbooks. The 3 specific counts mentioned in the criminal complaint against Lawrence, and Lefebvre, were sporting wagers.
    Those wagers, originated out of the State of New York. All prior arrests have involved sporting wagers, originating out of at least one of the 11 banned states, also.
    This seems to me, as at least the DOJ has been consistent so far, in their precedence that sporting wagers are illegal, and always have been, according to the 'wire act'.

    My thinking is that if / when they go after NETeller, this could involve the UIGEA, 'money laundering - BS'.
    That could possibly be used against online casino and poker room wagers ?

    I am not saying that the US government will not go after online casinoes and poker rooms in the future ? But, at this time, they haven't yet.

    Also, would the US government go after a ewallet, that did not process sporting wagers ?
     
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  36. Jan 20, 2007
  37. Cynthialc

    Cynthialc Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Nurse
    Location:
    florida
    Checks?

    Several months ago I received a small withdrawl from William Hill casino by check. This was just I beleive a few days prior to them banning US players.
    Anyway, I deposited the check. About 10 days later I went online to check my bank balance and to my shock there was a "returned foreign debit check" as well as a Foriegn Debit Check Return Fee"
    I imediately contacted my bank for an explanation and they really couldn't give me a reason for why the check was returned. Since it involved gambling from here in the US, I didn't get to pushy, but pouted and cried and they waived the fee at least. I contacted Wm Hill and told them what happend and they took my bank info and ACH 'd the payment.
    Since then I have been wondering if banks are flagging foriegn checks to see if they come from gambling sites. Just a little paronoia here in the US.
     
  38. Jan 20, 2007
  39. GrandMaster

    GrandMaster Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Mathematician by day, online gambler by night.
    Location:
    UK
    There would have been stamps on the back of check such as "Payment stopped by order of drawer", "Insufficient funds", etc.
     

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