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Hi datshowiwoll,

Thank you for the feedback, and I am glad to hear you enjoy playing our bonuses on DOA.

With regards to not being able to make a deposit whilst a pending withdrawal is in place, I can appreciate your frustrations. We appreciate the feedback and like to fact that you want to deposit again to take part of our promotions, but this policy will remain in place for the foreseeable future. Also apart from the example you have iven, we find this to be industry standard across many casinos.The advice I can offer in the meantime, is to cancel any pending withdrawals then deposit, or contact the 24/7 support team (via live chat, email, or phone) and let them know you predicament and they may be able to suggest a viable outcome good for all parties.

Many thanks,
Ryan

Jesus.
Way around this. Pay the withdrawals very fast, in minutes or an hour or two and it won't be much of an issue anyway.

Of course it will 'remain in place for the foreseeable' because it's simply an extra encouragement for people to reverse it all during the pending period.

And not may casinos do it. It doesn't happen at Redbet/Whitebet Sky, Grosvenor, Coral, Virgin, 32red. In fact I can only recall 2 sites I've ever seen it at, both Playtech which is what you expect from them anyway.

Yes, some will REMIND YOU that you have a pending w/d when you go to deposit during it, but very few force you to reverse it.

And that's from sites that do or do not charge a deposit or w/d fee.

I personally think it stinks.
 
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I simply don't deposit nor feel the urge to deposit at a casino where I have an 'unprocessed' withdrawal whether reversible or not.

The way I look at it is that I've 'had my luck for now' at that particular casino and deposit elsewhere until my funds are in my bank/Skrill, returning at a later date when the withdrawal is 'ancient history'
 
Jesus.
Way around this. Pay the withdrawals very fast, in minutes or an hour or two and it won't be much of an issue anyway.

Of course it will 'remain in place for the foreseeable' because it's simply an extra encouragement for people to reverse it all during the pending period.

And not may casinos do it. It doesn't happen at Redbet/Whitebet Sky, Grosvenor, Coral, Virgin, 32red. In fact I can only recall 2 sites I've ever seen it at, both Playtech which is what you expect from them anyway.

Yes, some will REMIND YOU that you have a pending w/d when you go to deposit during it, but very few force you to reverse it.

And that's from sites that do or do not charge a deposit or w/d fee.

I personally think it stinks.

It's so that when they do a promotion like the one i got bonus-banned for

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they'd quite happily take 7 losing deposits from you. But if you happen to win from one of the deposits, this will block you from some or all of the rest of the promotion
 
I simply don't deposit nor feel the urge to deposit at a casino where I have an 'unprocessed' withdrawal whether reversible or not.

The way I look at it is that I've 'had my luck for now' at that particular casino and deposit elsewhere until my funds are in my bank/Skrill, returning at a later date when the withdrawal is 'ancient history'

Yes, I know what you mean Jon, although i often run lucky at a gaff for a few deposits myself :) Sometimes though I have made a straight deposit there on a Friday, then Saturday there will be an offer of free spins on slot I haven't tried so have missed out (as the withdrawal will not get processed till the Monday) .... and will continue to do so I guess!

To be fair during the week, withdrawals are usually processed the next day.
 
Hi Nicola,

I am glad that you found your experience with our support team via live chat pleasurable and that you appreciate the fast payouts.

Sorry to hear that you were temporarily banned, but glad the issue was resolved. To confirm it is correct that you can only have one accoutn across all the L&L Europe casinos, this is due to our licensing.

With regards to the bonuses, we offer Friday/Saturday reload bonus every week, along with Surprise Spins Sunday, which rewards players who have played in the last 7 days with free spins. On top of this, we also have Wild Wednesdays on the first Wednesday of every month, that again reward customers with free spins, but to those who have played in the last 30 days.

Anything else you would like to know, just ask.

Many thanks,
Ryan

You must have a highly unusual variety of licence as the norm is that a UK player can have an account at every casino an operator runs provided they all have a UK licence. Everymatrix is the perfect example, many of the casinos share the same licence, and are listed, but UK players can have accounts at them all.

If you are inferring that ONLY the All British casino has a UK licence, which causes the restriction for UK players, then it's more a case that UK players must play at All British, rather than merely one account across all the casinos.

Casino rewards has over 20 casinos, and all on one UK licence. UK players can have one account at each of them. There is no licensing restriction imposed by the UKGC to require operators with multiple sites to force UK players to have only a single account at the operator level.

Too much PR "spin" in these replies and you will fall over, the harsh truth would be better, even if it isn't what players want to hear.

Same with the unusual stance you have on deposits whilst a withdrawal is pending. Trying to "spin" this as "industry standard/everyone does it" has already induced quite a wobble, and you are in danger of falling over.

The TRUTH is probably more along the lines of you using the pending period to throttle the quantity of bonuses that winning players can take by preventing them from claiming a bonus for the entire pending period, which itself is artificially lengthened as a means to block the ability to withdraw and almost immediately redeposit to claim a bonus. As for "industry practice", this is one area where you SHOULD try following it as the browser based multi provider casinos tend to pay instantly as "industry practice", it's the single provider download "dinosaurs" that have lengthy pending periods.

As for the Neteller excuse; ANY deposit method can be used to "abuse the promotions", so you are locking the front door but leaving the patio doors open with this, and you will be losing many honest players who would not dream of trying to slip in via the patio doors if they are not invited in via the front.

However, the shine is coming off Neteller, and it may be that players switch to other methods in any case, which might mean fewer honest players being inconvenienced, but it also might mean the "promotion abusers" will no longer be using Neteller as their standard choice.
 
Jesus.
Way around this. Pay the withdrawals very fast, in minutes or an hour or two and it won't be much of an issue anyway.

Of course it will 'remain in place for the foreseeable' because it's simply an extra encouragement for people to reverse it all during the pending period.

And not may casinos do it. It doesn't happen at Redbet/Whitebet Sky, Grosvenor, Coral, Virgin, 32red. In fact I can only recall 2 sites I've ever seen it at, both Playtech which is what you expect from them anyway.

Yes, some will REMIND YOU that you have a pending w/d when you go to deposit during it, but very few force you to reverse it.

And that's from sites that do or do not charge a deposit or w/d fee.

I personally think it stinks.

Hi dunover,

Sorry to hear that you feel this way in regards to our withdrawal process. What I can add is that we aim to process withdrawals as quickly as possible. When a customer wins, they deserve to withdraw their winnings. We do state that they can take up to 24 hours, but in reality they rarely do. However we state this because in comparison to the other casinos that you have mentioned we are a bit more restricted in our resources. As a casino we have put more emphasis on promotions and having 24/7 customer support. Which some customers value more than having withdrawals made quicker. That is where we dedicate our resources at present. As we grow and develop, quicker payments will be something that will be considered.

Although we are not quite the size of Coral, Sky, 32Red as of yet, we make up for it with a personable and attentive service.

I hope this helps.

Many thanks,
Ryan
 
It's so that when they do a promotion like the one i got bonus-banned for

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they'd quite happily take 7 losing deposits from you. But if you happen to win from one of the deposits, this will block you from some or all of the rest of the promotion

Hi brianmon,

I find it highly unlikely that you were 'bonus banned' for winning on the promotion you have presented. We recognize that players will win, as it is a generous promotion, the possibility is quite high that this will happen. We didn't go banning all players that won from this promotion. As was previously stated all your game play, bonus redemption and deposit history would have been taken into account when the unfortunate decision was made.

However we have undergone a change in management since the decision was made on your account. If you send me your account details I will have your case reviewed. We can either offer some definite closure or reactivate your account for bonuses. I don't think you can say fairer than that.

Many thanks,
Ryan
 
Hi brianmon,

I find it highly unlikely that you were 'bonus banned' for winning on the promotion you have presented. We recognize that players will win, as it is a generous promotion, the possibility is quite high that this will happen. We didn't go banning all players that won from this promotion. As was previously stated all your game play, bonus redemption and deposit history would have been taken into account when the unfortunate decision was made.

However we have undergone a change in management since the decision was made on your account. If you send me your account details I will have your case reviewed. We can either offer some definite closure or reactivate your account for bonuses. I don't think you can say fairer than that.

Many thanks,
Ryan

Actually, I closed my account.

The thing is though, I play regularly at about 10 casinos, and occasionally at maybe another 10-20 others. So consequently I get several bonus/freespins offers almost every day.

If I'm looking to make a deposit and take a bonus, I'm obviously going to take the best offer at the time, at whichever casino that might be, who wouldn't?

And if I'm looking to make a deposit without a bonus, I'd be looking at the casinos who offer the best loyalty program, who wouldn't? I also prefer a mix of MGS and NetEnt, when playing. So that's also a deciding factor on a cash deposit.

So there wasn't anything 'deliberate' about taking up offers at AllBritish. You just happened to have the best offer at the time (which I hope you'll take as a compliment).

I'm in no way a huge depositor, although my Neteller account turned over 30k last year. But I did actually only make quite small deposits at AllBritish, although that's because the offers only required small deposits - deposit £20 for xxxx or deposit £30 for yyyyy.

Anyways, good luck with the BBF
 
You must have a highly unusual variety of licence as the norm is that a UK player can have an account at every casino an operator runs provided they all have a UK licence. Everymatrix is the perfect example, many of the casinos share the same licence, and are listed, but UK players can have accounts at them all.

If you are inferring that ONLY the All British casino has a UK licence, which causes the restriction for UK players, then it's more a case that UK players must play at All British, rather than merely one account across all the casinos.

Casino rewards has over 20 casinos, and all on one UK licence. UK players can have one account at each of them. There is no licensing restriction imposed by the UKGC to require operators with multiple sites to force UK players to have only a single account at the operator level.

Too much PR "spin" in these replies and you will fall over, the harsh truth would be better, even if it isn't what players want to hear.

Same with the unusual stance you have on deposits whilst a withdrawal is pending. Trying to "spin" this as "industry standard/everyone does it" has already induced quite a wobble, and you are in danger of falling over.

The TRUTH is probably more along the lines of you using the pending period to throttle the quantity of bonuses that winning players can take by preventing them from claiming a bonus for the entire pending period, which itself is artificially lengthened as a means to block the ability to withdraw and almost immediately redeposit to claim a bonus. As for "industry practice", this is one area where you SHOULD try following it as the browser based multi provider casinos tend to pay instantly as "industry practice", it's the single provider download "dinosaurs" that have lengthy pending periods.

As for the Neteller excuse; ANY deposit method can be used to "abuse the promotions", so you are locking the front door but leaving the patio doors open with this, and you will be losing many honest players who would not dream of trying to slip in via the patio doors if they are not invited in via the front.

However, the shine is coming off Neteller, and it may be that players switch to other methods in any case, which might mean fewer honest players being inconvenienced, but it also might mean the "promotion abusers" will no longer be using Neteller as their standard choice.

Hi vinylweatherman,

We operate a one account per member across all brands policy to protect our players under our UK license. We take responsible gaming very seriously and to ensure that all self-exclusions are effectively handled we only allow one account per member across all L & L Europe Ltd brands.

As for the other points you have raised, I am happy that I have responded appropriately to the initial comments with reasonable explanations.

Feedback is always welcome and taken into account, so we appreciate your comments and views on our practises.

Kind regards,
Ryan
 
Actually, I closed my account.

The thing is though, I play regularly at about 10 casinos, and occasionally at maybe another 10-20 others. So consequently I get several bonus/freespins offers almost every day.

If I'm looking to make a deposit and take a bonus, I'm obviously going to take the best offer at the time, at whichever casino that might be, who wouldn't?

And if I'm looking to make a deposit without a bonus, I'd be looking at the casinos who offer the best loyalty program, who wouldn't? I also prefer a mix of MGS and NetEnt, when playing. So that's also a deciding factor on a cash deposit.

So there wasn't anything 'deliberate' about taking up offers at AllBritish. You just happened to have the best offer at the time (which I hope you'll take as a compliment).

I'm in no way a huge depositor, although my Neteller account turned over 30k last year. But I did actually only make quite small deposits at AllBritish, although that's because the offers only required small deposits - deposit £20 for xxxx or deposit £30 for yyyyy.

Anyways, good luck with the BBF

hi brianmon,

Thank you for the latest comments, these are quite insightful into the mindset of a player. You make some valid points in terms of the thought process behind choosing where to deposit. It's also great to know that our promotions are attractive to players, so thank you for that.

Offer still stands, feel free to PM me your details.

Thank you for the good luck message regarding the BBF.

All the best,
Ryan
 
Isn't that everyone's mindset, not just casino players. Don't most people buy special offers at a supermarket?

Although I've never heard of anyone being asked to buy only full-price items, because they've previously only bought items on special offer!

If someone's been lucky with a few bonuses, their luck is bound to change at some point, and the casino will eventually get their money back.

By bonus banning a player, the casino are effectively writing-off those withdrawals (because there are so many other places to play), rather than biding their time and waiting for the money to return from the, inevitable, unsuccessful deposits.
 
L&L as a whole

I personally have only had positive experiences from the L&L group, I don't play at AllBritish casino because of the currency being GBP and I fund my Netteller with the weak South African Rand to convert into euro for my preferred casinos to play at , so I have active accounts with AllIrish casino and Polder Casino , the support is good and the promos are great especially the Sunday mystery spins , but I don't play as often as I I used to when first joining because I've reversed my withdrawals more times than I care to mention , and 24hrs isn't unresonable but if I could suggest any improvements it would be in possibly disabling the reverse option for players ( Unibet were kind enough to do this to my account with them ) or possibly allow a flushing option ?
Aside from that the L&L group have exceeded my expectations in every area.
:thumbsup:
Good luck in the BBF
 
I personally have only had positive experiences from the L&L group, I don't play at AllBritish casino because of the currency being GBP and I fund my Netteller with the weak South African Rand to convert into euro for my preferred casinos to play at , so I have active accounts with AllIrish casino and Polder Casino , the support is good and the promos are great especially the Sunday mystery spins , but I don't play as often as I I used to when first joining because I've reversed my withdrawals more times than I care to mention , and 24hrs isn't unresonable but if I could suggest any improvements it would be in possibly disabling the reverse option for players ( Unibet were kind enough to do this to my account with them ) or possibly allow a flushing option ?
Aside from that the L&L group have exceeded my expectations in every area.
:thumbsup:
Good luck in the BBF

Hi cnichas,

We are really happy that you enjoyed playing across the L&L Europe casinos and enjoy taking part in the various promotions that we offer. It is understandable why you haven't played at All British thought, so no worries there.

With regards to the points to raised regarding the withdraws and not being able to reverse them. Putting in a non reversible option is something that our system currently cannot do, same with a flushing option. The only thing I can suggest for now is taking up the 'time out' option. So nice a withdraw has been processed by yourself, you simply get in touch with the support team and ask to be 'timed out' for 24 hours. However please note that before taking this option, please consider the fact that under no means possible will you be able to access your account until this time has lapsed.

The above might seem like a slightly drastic measure, but it's what we can suggest for now. We appreciate the feedback, as we develop and move forward, we look to advance our system and controls we may add functionality to be able to implement the above suggestions.

All the best,
Ryan
 
Happy Birthday Ryan :thumbsup::thumbsup: !!!

Free Spins all round for recent depositors to celebrate the happy occasion :confused::confused: :p :p

Have a good one ;)

Cheers jonmicher,

btw I passed you inquiry on, should have a response shortly to update you with.

Nothing would make me happier than to give out free spins to celebrate my birthday, but I don't think my director would be best pleased :p However dont forgot Surprise Spins Sunday, were you get FS is you have deposited in the last 7 days!!

Regards,
Ryan
 
Happy birthday Ryan !!! Wishing you a super day Bud :D

Cheers cnichas,

Having a good day so far, better once I have a pint in my hand!
 
Hi vinylweatherman,

We operate a one account per member across all brands policy to protect our players under our UK license. We take responsible gaming very seriously and to ensure that all self-exclusions are effectively handled we only allow one account per member across all L & L Europe Ltd brands.

As for the other points you have raised, I am happy that I have responded appropriately to the initial comments with reasonable explanations.

Feedback is always welcome and taken into account, so we appreciate your comments and views on our practises.

Kind regards,
Ryan

This is what I meant about truth vs spin. It's not the UKGC that has imposed this rule on your licence, it's merely your particular policy with regard to how best to police the responsible gambling requirements. Most other groups do not need to resort to such a policy as, presumably, they have better systems in place that allows them to track an individual player across all their brands such that where they are deemed "out of control" with their gambling on one, they can be appropriately dealt with across all the brands.

The real problem with your policy from the players' point of view is that they are seeing the "shop window", the separate sites with their individual livery, they are not seeing the corporate picture that lies behind it all. When they are told only one account per person is allowed, they see that as one account per casino, the industry norm. They see no difference between having an account at, say, 32Red and All British or having an account at No Bonus casino and All British.

In order to properly comply with your policy, players would first have to understand the corporate structure behind the "shop windows", and this can be confusing because it's no good considering obvious things like software, they would have to know that all these different "shops" are all actually a single "store", that of L & L Europe.

It's a bit like expecting someone who has never before seen a One Stop local convenience store to realise it's actually a Tesco before entering the premises. If there was a rule that people could only shop in one of Tesco's brands, it would be catching people out all the time.

The problem with people constantly getting caught out is that it makes the brand look bad because they feel it's a deliberate trap that has been set to rip them off, rather like the now banned "all your money back in 5 years" offers that were being offered by electrical retailers and some double glazing companies, that were actually designed to fail for most customers due to having a difficult and exacting sequence of steps that had to be followed, and which were designed to be difficult in order to induce failure.

Ideally, you want a system that blocks people at the registration phase, not after they have played and won, only to be told that they have had their winnings voided for not understanding that both "shop fronts" were the same L & L "store", and that being British meant they would not be paid. I very much doubt people will understand that this is for THEIR protection under responsible gambling rules.

I have accounts at well over a dozen Casino Rewards casinos, they are UK licenced, and have to follow exactly the same responsible gambling rules as yourselves, but this is no problem for them, I can play in all these accounts and get paid if I win.
 
I'm afraid this is the casino for me where I just can't seem to win.

Thousands of spins and literally thousands of £ down, mostly on Gonzo's Quest. Today I deposited £150 for the 30% bonus. On my very last spin at £2.00 bet I got the free falls which delivered just over £40.00 which soon went.

Yes, I know the casino can't influence the outcome and yes I know it's my risk to deposit. Given my rotten luck I asked CS for a few free chips a little while ago to be told no as I'd had "too many bonuses" (actually very few based on most of the other casinos I play at!)

Think this is the casino I just cant't win at and should probably admit defeat and call it a day here!

Chris
 
Been well over an hour ago that I registered and still no email for me to activate the account.

No emails in spam folder either :confused:
 
Still no email and still unable to verify my account so I can play and test the casino.

Not a good start to be honest :confused:
 
Still no email and still unable to verify my account so I can play and test the casino.

Not a good start to be honest :confused:

Hi interlog,

can you please send me your email address in a private message so that I can have this matter investigated.

This is not our usual practice and we would not want to prevent you from enjoying our casino.

Many thanks,
Ryan
 
Wondered if i had an account with all British so I checked and it seems that I do. Sent an email asking if the opening deposit bonus was still available to me and it is, with thirty five times bonus only wagering attached.

Also explained that I would like to fully verify my account before making a deposit, that isn't an issue either. Think I will be making a deposit in the near future, So want to get a big win on lost island!
 
Wondered if i had an account with all British so I checked and it seems that I do. Sent an email asking if the opening deposit bonus was still available to me and it is, with thirty five times bonus only wagering attached.

Also explained that I would like to fully verify my account before making a deposit, that isn't an issue either. Think I will be making a deposit in the near future, So want to get a big win on lost island!

Hi philderby1,

Glad to hear you got all your questons answered by our customer support team via email, and that you are looking to try us out with our welcome bonus.

Good luck on Lost island :D

All the best,
Ryan
 
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