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A Letter To Players Of Slots Oasis Casino

Who Said This?

"Trust is what holds this industry together. If you don't have trust, you don't have anything worth dealing with. Since the online casino industry is still unregulated for the most part, players will remain cautious, cynical, pessimistic and accusatory. It is up to the casino to do battle against this negativity. The way to do this is to be upfront, honest, humble, and when you make a mistake - admit it. Admitting our mistakes humanizes us, and people relate to people this way. This is a people business."

:cool:

Yes, but what if the "upfront, honest, and humble" answer is something like, "This is, and will continue to be, an ongoing issue. We are doing everything in our power to resolve it, but do not know when that will be...etc", platitudes to follow. Then what? I'd like to see them add a few days to there own stated guidelines (ie "up to 15 days for checks or wires" instead of the current 7-10. FYI, last time I chatted with CS re my cashout on the 7th, they said to expect 1-3 days delay beyond the normal 10.
 
Yes, but what if the "upfront, honest, and humble" answer is something like, "This is, and will continue to be, an ongoing issue. We are doing everything in our power to resolve it, but do not know when that will be...etc", platitudes to follow. Then what? I'd like to see them add a few days to there own stated guidelines (ie "up to 15 days for checks or wires" instead of the current 7-10. FYI, last time I chatted with CS re my cashout on the 7th, they said to expect 1-3 days delay beyond the normal 10.

Well, I would say that that would damn sure be better than "No Statement" at all, like we have seen from this group for the past two months now...don't you think!

Something is always better than nothing which is all it has been now.

You can keep on with the "What If's" all day long but with "No Official Statement" whatsoever then the speculation will continue.
 
UPDATE ON COOLCAT WINNINGS

Sorry wrong place to post my update, I apolligize.
My first and only withdrawal I had with slots oasis I had to have Louise handle it and she did, with in 5 minutes I got my approval and my money . I agree, if she can do that, then why doesn't the withdrawal dept just do it so they don't have many angry players. Rchybnker72, you mentioned coolcat?? I am still waiting to receive my withdrawal since 7/11 $1111.00 and believe me I've contacted them constantly and I get no where. It's just a waiting game with them. Robert who was checking into that seems to have disappeared. LOL:mad:
 
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UPDATE ON COOLCAT WINNINGS I was told by the withdrawal dept. that they sent me my check 1,046.00 by overnight express Fed ex and should receive it by this week or within 7 days. I always thought that overnight meant the next day but guess not with this casino. I was told they could not use money gram or western union like I requested because it was too much money!! :confused: HA! Don't I wish I won too much money!! Of course my winnings went down 65.00 for the charge of sending it fedex . Any ways, can not wait to finally receive it so I can once and for all be done with this whole casino.

:what: What does your "UPDATE ON COOLCAT WINNINGS" have to do with this Slots Oasis thread??
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nothing sooooo sorry. I was updating from my last post that I talked about slot oasis on and responded to Rchybnker72 regarding coolcat. Again sooo sorry please accept my apolligy.

Nothing to be sorry about smiley, but I figured you would have posted that in your other thread that you started HERE actually regarding "Cool Cat Casino". The Rushmore Group may have a lot of slow payments going on lately that they won't explain why about...but in no way, shape or manner should they be associated with the likes of that Rogue bunch at Cool Cat Casino.
 
I have dealt with several player's PMs today which have been sent over the last couple of days, and all of these players withdrawals are fine.

As always, I can be contacted via PM if anyone needs any assistance.

Regards,

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.

Hi Louise,

Pms are useful for resolving individual cases but now that the delayed payment issue has been blown so wide the best remedy is to take the bull by the horns. I understand that you are reluctant to disclose anything connected to the financial health of Rushmore but if you want us to regain confidence you must address the following:

1/ When will all outstanding payments be settled (you may give another date for USA players as it takes longer) but be realistic about it.

2/ When will Rushmore stop it's nonsensical method of having each and every payment approved by the Accounts manager (nothing against you Louise but it may be seen as a reason for stalling payments IMO). Most withdrawals should be processed through an automated system once all faxback forms are approved unless the player in question is flagged for secruity issues or the sum requested is too large. If Inetbet and jackpot Capital can do it why not Rushmore?

3/ Optional but if you really want to keep your customer base intact show a little appreciation for those players who had their payments stalled and in moments of weakness proceeded to reverse and lost their pending withdrawals. I believe both player and casino should share responsibility in these instances.

Harm has been done but whether it is only a shallow wound or a deep scar depends on how well you handle it.
 
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I can understand why Rushmore et al would prefer to keep these exchanges private via PMs, but Chuchu is right - this has now become a serious public issue and warrants more transparency.

If Rushmore won't do it, then perhaps the players that have posted complaints will come in and confirm that their issues have been resolved?

Between that and Max's PAB numbers we should have a better idea of how effective Rushmore is being in dealing with this mess.
 
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If Rushmore won't do it, then perhaps the players that have posted complaints will come in and confirm that their issues have been resolved?

My issue with Cherry Red was resolved and I am taking Louise at her word that she was just out of the office a few extra days not feeling well. My withdrawal was a small one so I can't say much about others who are waiting on large withdrawals. As long as Louise is with the Rushmore group I will stay faithful and play there.:)
 
I have dealt with several player's PMs today which have been sent over the last couple of days, and all of these players withdrawals are fine.

As always, I can be contacted via PM if anyone needs any assistance.

Regards,

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.

Things certainly aren't fine with me...13 days, 2 deadlines, and counting. Also it has become painfully obvious that Louise has zero control over tranactions other than E-Wallets. Granted, checks may not have been the best way to go, but, with my low-roll budget, I was trying to avoid QT's fees, on top of bank fees. Guess I'll be going the "high roll, les often" route from now on...@Inetbet
 
Payouts at Slots Oasis still slow???

Hi Everyone - I came here looking for answers on payouts and stumbled upon CM and the forums. I play at Slots Oasis and processed my first withdrawal on August 13th.

Tomorrow will be 2 weeks since I did this and I still haven't received my payout. It's for $4000 thru UseMyWallet. I have had a customer service rep email me a couple of times, but, I'm still waiting. All my fax back forms were previously approved, so I'm curious to see just how long this will take. It doesn't make me feel all warm and fuzzy - or in a hurry to return and play there. I'll keep you updated.
 
Welcome Redbird52,

You surely stumbled into the best gambling forum available:D. Many of us here are keeping a close watch on Rushmore. Actually, if the situation deteriorates it may be time for players with outstanding payments to pitch-a-bitch.

Stick with us. We will endeavour to make you warm and fuzzy even if they currently cant do that for you.
 
Thanks for the welcome chuchu59. I have been thoroughly entertained and quite a bit enlightened already just going through some of these threads. I can see I'll have quite a bit of reading to do to catch up with the latest news on my favorite hobby!
 
Afterthought of BRIANZZ's [post=316754]CHERRY RED, PAY YOUR BILL, PAID LOL[/post]
 
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Slots Oasis withdrawal update

Update: After posting my $4000 withdrawal at Slots Oasis on August 13, it hit my Quicktender account on August 31st. This is a big relief.....I think I'll stay away for awhile though... the Rushmore group seems to be having payout difficulties. I've switched to Lucky Red for the moment, ClubWorld looks better right now.
 
The rep at Cherry Red told me that they were having issues withdrawaling to UMW and eWalletExpress. So they told me to do either a check or a wire transfer. I've also been reading though that apparently there not any faster with the wire transfer over the UMW. Oh well the nice thing about the wire is when it does hit I can take the money out right away vs waiting for UMW to send it to me.
 
Hi everyone,

Once again, I am back!! The lesson to learn from this is that when you are sick and then recover, don't rush back to work too quickly, as you may get sick again! So yes, 5 days in bed and now back in the office again - Really sorry for me being MIA and not being here to help you all out!!!

Dave - I've PMed you.

Anyone else with issues, please PM me. Those that have already PMed me, I am half way through them so am sorting through now.

Hope everyone is good.

Kind regards,

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.
 
Really sorry for me being MIA and not being here to help you all out!!!
Louise, you need to get an assistant because you really are allowed to take a vacation, sick leave and personal time just like we all do. It is not fair to have such aheavy burden placed on you for so many casinos...

It is also not fair to you to have to handle all these IM requests alone.

Demand informed help and make them hire someone you can train in the ways that you like and need...There should be a rep for each casino and the reason you have fallen ill twice now, is, that I believe is due to stress...overwork...and lack of help..

Take care of yourself please. The casinos will ALWAYS take care of theirselves.


Silc.
 
Louise, you need to get an assistant because you really are allowed to take a vacation, sick leave and personal time just like we all do. It is not fair to have such aheavy burden placed on you for so many casinos...

It is also not fair to you to have to handle all these IM requests alone.

Demand informed help and make them hire someone you can train in the ways that you like and need...There should be a rep for each casino and the reason you have fallen ill twice now, is, that I believe is due to stress...overwork...and lack of help..

Take care of yourself please. The casinos will ALWAYS take care of theirselves.


Silc.

Thanks Silc... ;);)

It's OK, kinda my fault really as I should and could have take the extra couple of days off to recover fully.

I am going to get a Casinomeister sidekick to help me out in these cases where I can't get on here myself to reply and help people out.

Thanks,

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.
 
Thanks Silc... ;).

I am going to get a Casinomeister sidekick to help me out in these cases where I can't get on here myself to reply and help people out.

Thanks,

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.

Maybe a strange question but 3 casino's and one person to process??? Something really seems awfully strange here to me, you get ill or take a holiday and the payments stop.
 
Hi everyone,

Once again, I am back!! The lesson to learn from this is that when you are sick and then recover, don't rush back to work too quickly, as you may get sick again! So yes, 5 days in bed and now back in the office again - Really sorry for me being MIA and not being here to help you all out!!!

Dave - I've PMed you.

Anyone else with issues, please PM me. Those that have already PMed me, I am half way through them so am sorting through now.

Hope everyone is good.

Kind regards,

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.

Thanks for the PM. For everyone else's benefit, here's an email I received from Rushmore accounting last night:

Hi David,

Thank you for your email. Unfortunately there has been a delay in bank draft check withdrawals that were approved after August 5th. The first of the checks that were delayed have been sent this week. So you should be receiving your check within the next 2 weeks. Feel free to check back with us next week to see if a tracking number is available.

Kind Regards,
Ben Arthur
Withdrawals Manager

I'm on vacation starting the 10th. Can someone tell me what happens if FedEx comes knocking and there's no one home?
 
Maybe a strange question but 3 casino's and one person to process??? Something really seems awfully strange here to me, you get ill or take a holiday and the payments stop.

Hi,

You are welcome David - I apologize once again.

me_and_ed - I am not the payouts person for our casinos, we have a few people that work in the withdrawal department for our casinos. I was speaking in reference to a Casinomeister-rep-sidekick that can come and help people out here should there be any times I can't get here myself.

Thanks,

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.
 
Im glad your back Louise and feeling better, now to get to the nitty gritty of everything , when can we look for the 3 casinos to get back on top of their game, with payments and such?

When i hear it from you that there will be no more issues with players getting paid in a timely manner, i will be back playing at your casinos as im sure others will be too, that last post by Dave has me bothered and still concered about the withdrawal department staff.

I do agree with Silc, thats alot of work load for one person, no wonder you needed a vacation:)...............laurie
 
Im glad your back Louise and feeling better, now to get to the nitty gritty of everything , when can we look for the 3 casinos to get back on top of their game, with payments and such?

When i hear it from you that there will be no more issues with players getting paid in a timely manner, i will be back playing at your casinos as im sure others will be too, that last post by Dave has me bothered and still concered about the withdrawal department staff.

I do agree with Silc, thats alot of work load for one person, no wonder you needed a vacation:)...............laurie

Hey Laurie,

Nice to see you around - I hope you are well.

The checks are being sent out now by our processing company. They are sending the biggest batches they can, but can not send out all at once, so some people who had checks approved later on last month will need to wait a little longer than those who had checks approved nearer the beginning of the month. Wires are pretty much fine also, with a little catch-up/slight delays for the earliest approved people waiting.

Concerning e-wallet accounts - Most methods are fine now and have been sent. The only delays we have (which will be cleared within the next 48 hours) are with UseMyWallet - Most withdrawals have been sent according to the date on which they were requested - We are now waiting for more funds to arrive in our account so that we can send out the rest.

Thanks for everyone's patience. :)

Regards,

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.
 
Hey Laurie,

Nice to see you around - I hope you are well.

The checks are being sent out now by our processing company. They are sending the biggest batches they can, but can not send out all at once, so some people who had checks approved later on last month will need to wait a little longer than those who had checks approved nearer the beginning of the month. Wires are pretty much fine also, with a little catch-up/slight delays for the earliest approved people waiting.

Concerning e-wallet accounts - Most methods are fine now and have been sent. The only delays we have (which will be cleared within the next 48 hours) are with UseMyWallet - Most withdrawals have been sent according to the date on which they were requested - We are now waiting for more funds to arrive in our account so that we can send out the rest.(?!...with little going out recently (due to issues), and, I assume, more coming in from new accounts, how can this be)

Thanks for everyone's patience. :)

Regards,

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.

Good news. My check just arrived. 19 days...ack! Don't think I'll be playing here again anytime soon given this is the 2nd time I've been caught up in one of these things, but I'll be keeping an eye on things here at CM.
 
Good news. My check just arrived. 19 days...ack! Don't think I'll be playing here again anytime soon, but I'll be keeping an eye on things here at CM.

Thanks for the update - Glad the wait was less than expected, even though, I do understand you'd been waiting long enough!

Thanks for your patience.

Regards,

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.
 
Hi Louise

So how does the calendar work for those due over $4000. Say they are due $12000 and have not received a dime after 20 days of having executed their withdrawal???
TY
 
Hi Louise

So how does the calendar work for those due over $4000. Say they are due $12000 and have not received a dime after 20 days of having executed their withdrawal???
TY


NASHVEGAS - I know, you're going to kill me, I cleared all of my inbox out and have lost your username... I promise one last time, please let me know your username!

Thanks,

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.
 
First I hope that Nash will get his $12K soon.

However, what's with the pms? Louise, sorry for sounding unduly harsh but shouldnt you be paying all players their outstanding withdrawals instead of selecting those who voice out in this forum. If this issue had not dragged for so long or that noly a few players were affected then the use of pms to discuss and resolve issues instead of bringing them into the open is sensible. I think you really need to address the issue of what steps you are taking to avoid a future occurence. You will note that even for the few players that admitted having being paid in the last week are not playing again at your casinos anytime soon. I am afraid there will be a large exodus of customers if nothing is done soon.
 
NASHVEGAS - I know, you're going to kill me, I cleared all of my inbox out and have lost your username... I promise one last time, please let me know your username!

Thanks,

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.
Louise,

I never stop confusing.

To clarify, my post is a general question pursuant to your T and C's that may apply to any player. For example, a player that wins a $12K R.J. and see the original question please.

My USERNAME:confused:
 
First I hope that Nash will get his $12K soon.

However, what's with the pms? Louise, sorry for sounding unduly harsh but shouldnt you be paying all players their outstanding withdrawals instead of selecting those who voice out in this forum. If this issue had not dragged for so long or that noly a few players were affected then the use of pms to discuss and resolve issues instead of bringing them into the open is sensible. I think you really need to address the issue of what steps you are taking to avoid a future occurence. You will note that even for the few players that admitted having being paid in the last week are not playing again at your casinos anytime soon. I am afraid there will be a large exodus of customers if nothing is done soon.

Players are welcome to post their usernames in public if they wish. Asides from me asking this time, I'm pretty sure all others had PMed me and I'd simply flushed their withdrawals for them, so asides from Dave waiting (and then receiving his check today), there is nothing going on that is being hidden etc, I have been very honest.

NASHVEGAS - It's difficult to answer this question without a specific example, however, if a player say, had two lots of $4000 approved on their account, so are waiting for $8000, they will receive them together if they are due both. If the approval of their withdrawals went over by x amount of days from when they should have been approved, then we'd make up for this also. Not sure if there are any cases like this. If I can assist anymore, then please let me know.

Thanks,

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.
 
Louise,

I never stop confusing.

To clarify, my post is a general question pursuant to your T and C's that may apply to any player. For example, a player that wins a $12K R.J. and see the original question please.

My USERNAME:confused:

My goodness 12k and didn't receive a dime. That's not right I know you guys can do better than that. I could understand late payment processing and such but not give him a dime of that 12K is not understandable at all. For all of this waiting he should get at least half of the money. I know he was not strapped for cash but come on, they didn't even say here "boo" here's a dollar, nothing.

WoooooW:confused:
 
My goodness 12k and didn't receive a dime. That's not right I know you guys can do better than that. I could understand late payment processing and such but not give him a dime of that 12K is not understandable at all. For all of this waiting he should get at least half of the money. I know he was not strapped for cash but come on, they didn't even say here "boo" here's a dollar, nothing.

WoooooW:confused:
It is/was a general question given a hypothetical situation. It could apply to anyone. Sorry I caused confusion. :)

That said, it is one of the reasons that weekly installment payments basically suck. I can only say it is potenially abused and creates unnecessary issues.
 
Hi,

You are welcome David - I apologize once again.

me_and_ed - I am not the payouts person for our casinos, we have a few people that work in the withdrawal department for our casinos. I was speaking in reference to a Casinomeister-rep-sidekick that can come and help people out here should there be any times I can't get here myself.

Thanks,

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.

My comment was not answered, speaking for myself only, why is it when you are away the payment process becomes very slow, why are the relevant departments not processing in a timely fashion? If I have have missed the answer to this in an earlier post I apologize but cannot find it anywhere.
 
Hey Laurie,

Nice to see you around - I hope you are well.

The checks are being sent out now by our processing company. They are sending the biggest batches they can, but can not send out all at once, so some people who had checks approved later on last month will need to wait a little longer than those who had checks approved nearer the beginning of the month. Wires are pretty much fine also, with a little catch-up/slight delays for the earliest approved people waiting.

Concerning e-wallet accounts - Most methods are fine now and have been sent. The only delays we have (which will be cleared within the next 48 hours) are with UseMyWallet - Most withdrawals have been sent according to the date on which they were requested - We are now waiting for more funds to arrive in our account so that we can send out the rest.

Thanks for everyone's patience. :)

Regards,

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.

Candid, but rather worrying. This indicates a cashflow issue, and given some recent failures of casinos will have players worrying.

From where are these funds coming. Does the company HAVE the funds, but just in the wrong place (poor planning), or is it more serious, where more deposits are needed to cover withdrawals currently in the pipeline. The latter scenario is what will have players rushing for the exit, even the merest HINT of it. Given that there is absolutely NO "ring fencing" of player funds, not even with Microgaming, players know full well that when a casino fails, they stand to lose almost everything in their accounts. If Microgaming players can lose everything, and TWICE (TUSK and Eurolinx), the slightest sign of problems in a casino using software with a worse reputation will create a sense of foreboding which will discourage the very deposits the casino needs to keep cash flowing.

The fact that this has gone on for two months, and upper management have refused to explain why something as simple as paying on time has been so damn hard to do, and then you slip this remark in "We are now waiting for more funds to arrive in our account so that we can send out the rest" will have many thinking that this is a case of not having the funds in the account because the company does not have the money, rather than it being in the wrong place.

We really need more, since if it were merely a case of the money being in the wrong place, it should only have taken a few days to move it to where it is needed, similar to the length of time it might take me to transfer money from a savings account at one bank, to a current account at another, so that I can pay a bill. This is in the order of 3-4 working days, not 2 months. If it took me 2 months, it would be because I didn't have the money at all, and was trying to raise it somehow.

When this industry was in it's prime, we would probably have dismissed this as a temporary setback, but with UIGEA and the "credit crunch", there is a much greater chance that even minor dificulties could quickly drive a business, such as a casino, over the edge.

The industry could address this by implementing a "ring fence" system for player funds, such that when a casino went bust players would not lose any of their money, and if this were in place, it would be far less likely that players would worry about whether slow payment meant the casino was going bust, or was just incompetent - they would get paid in the end.
I thought, as did many, that Microgaming had such a system, and now we learn this was not so, and rightly feel we were mislead into underestimating the risk to our funds when MGS casinos went bust. Players are probably now OVERESTIMATING the risks because of these high profile failure of TWO MGS casino/poker operators, and players losing pretty much everything in both cases.
 
Completely agree VM.

I hope Louise typed that wrongly or doesn't mean what it looks like...

What if someone hits a crazy slots run or a progressive or whatever? Are they to wait six months until enough people deposit to drip feed the payout?

If this is the case, and they're waiting for their own funds to come in before paying the players - it's pretty much game over for this group.
 
To me this might be a sign of poor management. I'll admit there in countries where the laws are as strict about having so much on hand for cash, but on the same note they should in my mind have enough cash reserve to be able to pay players. Here in the US a casino is required be able to cover any bets made on the casino floor. So why wouldn't a casino carry enough cash to be able to cover all jackpots and bets made an online casino? To me this another reason why the US should be working towards allowing online gaming because then a lot of this let's pay ourselves perks with money were sure the players are going to loose. Shinagans going on won't happen as much because then they'd have legal US companies also competing along side with these folks who are going to have certain restrictions regarding cash to be able to pay players. Common in my opinion stop taking these lavish salaries for yourself and start working for the player. Only take what you know is profit and then keep the rest in the bank until you know it's profit.
So anyways that's my two cents out I'm out until I feel the need to speak again. lol
 
Hi all,

First of all, if a progressive is hit, then the payout is made in one payment. If a random is hit, then as a starting point, we send $4000 per week, but this can be increased at the manager's discretion.

me_and_ed - Sorry for not making this clear. It's not that when I am away the payments become slow. The cashouts that I have been speeding up the last few days are mostly people that had asked their withdrawals to be approved within the 48 hours. It is not normal that withdrawals go over the 48 hours, but admit that over the last couple of weeks since we've been working with these delays, some players have been waiting 3 days in some cases rather than 2 (for approval).

Checks have been received by players late last week for those who were waiting, and more are due at the beginning of next week, so I hope that within the next few days, all player waiting will have received their winnings.

Thanks,

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.
 
Just as an update to everyone and also PMed this to Louise. I did recieve my winnings and maybe she can't really explain this, but when a guy cashes out via wire transfer. Is it customary for it being an international transfer that $105 in fees come out? Just curious.

Hi cheetahwind,

I checked your account and can see that you had a $105 bonus removed from your winnings, so this was the reason for the deduction. The bonuses we offer are play bonuses only and are removed at time of cashout request.

Regards,

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.
 

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