What's a bonus abuser?
you have done 700 post an you don't know this?
get real
Cindy
What's a bonus abuser?
you have done 700 post an you don't know this?
get real
Cindy
That's exactly right. You know for a very long time I did used to believe there was such a thing as bonus abuse, but over the last few years I've come to realise there is not. All there is, is player abuse by casinos.I would think that lawnet's post was meant to highlight there are not bonus abusers. The casino sets the terms, if you abide, you are not an abuser, despite not "playing in the spirit a bonus was meant". The casinos set the terms, how do we know what they "mean".
I agree, but the same principle should be applied in my case with 3 Dice Casino, shouldn't it?I would think that lawnet's post was meant to highlight there are not bonus abusers. The casino sets the terms, if you abide, you are not an abuser, despite not "playing in the spirit a bonus was meant". The casinos set the terms, how do we know what they "mean".
I agree, but the same principle should be applied in my case with 3 Dice Casino, shouldn't it?
I have made a deposit and played within the objective part of their terms & conditions. After that I have requested a withdrawal and then they called me an abuser of their banking system. How am I supposed to know that this would be abusive?
you have done 700 post an you don't know this?
get real
I agree, but the same principle should be applied in my case with 3 Dice Casino, shouldn't it?
I have made a deposit and played within the objective part of their terms & conditions. After that I have requested a withdrawal and then they called me an abuser of their banking system. How am I supposed to know that this would be abusive?
What would you say if casino confiscates your winnings and says "Quite clearly you were 'abusing' our bonus"? It's absolutely subjective, isn't it?Quite clearly you were 'abusing' 3Dice's casino to get money into Moneybookers on the cheap. By anybody's definition you were 'abusing' them for this purpose.
If you follow this kind of logic then this rule to confiscate the winnings of "bonus abusers" would also be valid:BUT, as 3Dice have pointed out already 'if 3DICE.COM has grounds to believe that you are using the site for purposes other than those for which it was intended', they have the right to 'deduction of eventual processing fees'.
Once again: This is not true! I have already said that there is absolutely no reason for me to do this, because I can make free and instant deposits into my Moneybookers account any time.Quite plainly you were using the site to try and save a few dollars in fees, and therefore they have the right to deduct your processing fees.
Come on Markus, give this up now will you?In my opinion it would be better if they had paid me the 499 Euro and then update their T&C instead of forcing me to do a 251 Euro bet.
I only wanted to make my opinion clear for one more time. But you are right I just have to accept now that the Casinomeister community has another opinion then I have.Come on Markus, give this up now will you?
I have offered Enzo zu wager my deposit 5 times in Blackjack, but instead he asked me to either win 50% or to lose 50% of my deposit (see this post)No one "Forced you to make a 251 Euro bet" - that's just more bull's dropping & you know it.
You could have wagered the amount requested by Enzo playing $1/hand blackjack, or something like that, with a good chance of losing less than 251 Euro. OK it would have taken quite a while, but probably not as long as typing out more protestations of innocence which are only going to fall on deaf ears here now anyway...
I'm very serious.
I read your post and you mentioned 'bot users and bonus abusers'. It's obvious what a 'bot user' is - somebody that uses bots to play for them (although detection is I think quite difficult).
But 'bonus abuser' is as far as I can tell a meaningless term and is just a way for casinos to confiscate people's winnings on a whim.
So if you're going to use it you should be able to define it.
Definition please.
found thru Google
Bonus Abuse
Due to the large amount of money casinos make available through bonuses they are obviously keen to protect that investment and this is why bonus whores and bonus abuse is an important aspect of online casino play.
Bonus abuse is when a player signs up with a casino with the sole intention of cashing out the various bonuses that are offered by the casino. A bonus abuser, or bonus whore as they are often known, often targets the first deposit bonus as this requires the least amount of commitment on their part.
Casinos have a set of wagering requirements for each of the bonuses they offer in order to stop as much bonus abuse as possible.
Some casinos have stricter wagering requirements than others and it is often those with the weaker wagering requirements that are most susceptible to bonus abuse.
By this definition, anyone who withdraws from a casino having received a bonus is a 'bonus abuser', because if you withdraw you must have the intention to withdraw, which makes you a bonus abuser. This doesn't seem like a very good definition to me. I can't see any casino lasting very long saying that anyone who plays with the intention to withdraw is a 'bonus abuser'.
If you go to Las Vegas they don't say 'Sorry Sir, only losers are allowed here, you can't take your winnings.'
This seems to be a fancy way of saying 'the wagering restrictions are so tough, that you're going to lose your money whatever happens'.
Hmm, if you accept the definition implied above, that a bonus abuser is someone who withdraws their money from a casino, then that does make sense, because weaker wagering requirements mean fewer people will go bust and so will have money left to withdraw.
I'm not sure I like that definition very much.
I have offered Enzo zu wager my deposit 5 times in Blackjack, but instead he asked me to either win 50% or to lose 50% of my deposit (see this post)
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