3 Dice Casino

[LaHutti]

You do realize, that that comparison doesn't hold water at all, right ?
One you're talking about a human being pressing a button, the other you're talking about a computer program, that can be programmed to do anything you want it to do, at any given time, and if certain conditions are met....I don't know why some people fail to see the HUGE difference ?

As much as I find it annoying, when people keep putting their money into something they believe is cheating them, complain about it, and then walk right back to throw more money at it, as annoying do I find the people defending the casinos and especially the software with human actions, and that they don't NEED to cheat....that may very well be, but if you can double or triple your income, with very simple means, don't tell me you don't know human nature well enough to know, that someone, somewhere is going to try.....and if I personally believe, that someone is trying... I don't throw my money at these places (none mentioned, none forgotten)...simple as that.
It is a computer, and it can be programmed to do anything you want it to. No one have access to the software, so no one really knows how it works, or how RTP is achieved for example....a lot of people like to guess, and make believe that their guess is the correct one... oh well, each to their own.

Do you trust the programmers, and the people doing audit on the programs, is really what it all boils down to....if not, you need to stop throwing money at it.

Do you believe that there's a guy watching you and pushing buttons when you go play in a land based casino? If not then why would it be any different online?

 

[bvu2011]

You do realize, that that comparison doesn't hold water at all, right ?
One you're talking about a human being pressing a button, the other you're talking about a computer program, that can be programmed to do anything you want it to do, at any given time, and if certain conditions are met....I don't know why some people fail to see the HUGE difference ?

As much as I find it annoying, when people keep putting their money into something they believe is cheating them, complain about it, and then walk right back to throw more money at it, as annoying do I find the people defending the casinos and especially the software with human actions, and that they don't NEED to cheat....that may very well be, but if you can double or triple your income, with very simple means, don't tell me you don't know human nature well enough to know, that someone, somewhere is going to try.....and if I personally believe, that someone is trying... I don't throw my money at these places (none mentioned, none forgotten)...simple as that.
It is a computer, and it can be programmed to do anything you want it to. No one have access to the software, so no one really knows how it works, or how RTP is achieved for example....a lot of people like to guess, and make believe that their guess is the correct one... oh well, each to their own.

Do you trust the programmers, and the people doing audit on the programs, is really what it all boils down to....if not, you need to stop throwing money at it.

Great post as I have made my decision to remove myself from any place I do not feel comfortable with. Again, whereas I do not feel comfortable - another does. Moreover, as far as computer software/programming, if one were to tell me their program does not have any flaws etc. I would beg to differ because I do not believe anything is perfect especially technology which at times has a mind of its own and must be constantly monitored for quality control. I find the gambling business to be more than meets the eye. Of course the customer wants to be entertained, but I must say that most people want to WIN too. The latter, the casino business is out for the same, they want money! I agree that in every business there will be ones who become greedy (human nature lol) an set their standards high for a win. I have seen way too many BIG WINS at 3Dice to say this is a problem. But what I do see is that those who win BIG can and have gone on for a month straight. When the same person wins big for a month straight, or you notice multiple wins like 15-20+ in VIP tourney wins by one player in a week (which is not unusual) it should not come as a surprise that the casino will have complaints. And because 3Dice has a chat in which those in real play can post a screenshot, it becomes more evident to other depositing players who is winning. Like I said, when you have one person winning BIG over and over its a given it will be questioned. I have won big at 3Dice by winning an RJP in which I was very grateful except for what happened after - that I did not appreciate.

I have found that I do not want to be a career gambler lol But I do find the etiquette aspect to be very interesting by observation in how some choose to run their place of business!

 

[bigjohn]

Liking or not liking a casino is all well and good but it all comes down to faith.

One thing I have learned from this forum is no matter how much experience you think you have or how many spins or hands you have played you will have a hard time convincing anyone that a casino could possibly be cheating.

If you play 1000 spins and have 40% RTP people will tell you that is not a big enough sample to judge by. If you sample 10,000 spins you will get the same answer. Just last week I posted about how 400 spins on a given slot without a bonus round seemed excessive to me, "oh no", I was told, "you can go 800 without a bonus round." If I came on and posted that I took 900 spins with no bonus round I'm sure someone would say, "oh, that's nothing, you could go 1200 spins....."

Using that criteria I don't see why anyone would trust the third party auditors, how big of a sample could they possibly take? If you don't trust the casino then you shouldn't play there.

This week I trust 3Dice.

 

[chuchu59]

Liking or not liking a casino is all well and good but it all comes down to faith.

One thing I have learned from this forum is no matter how much experience you think you have or how many spins or hands you have played you will have a hard time convincing anyone that a casino could possibly be cheating.

If you play 1000 spins and have 40% RTP people will tell you that is not a big enough sample to judge by. If you sample 10,000 spins you will get the same answer. Just last week I posted about how 400 spins on a given slot without a bonus round seemed excessive to me, "oh no", I was told, "you can go 800 without a bonus round." If I came on and posted that I took 900 spins with no bonus round I'm sure someone would say, "oh, that's nothing, you could go 1200 spins....."

Using that criteria I don't see why anyone would trust the third party auditors, how big of a sample could they possibly take? If you don't trust the casino then you shouldn't play there.

This week I trust 3Dice.

That's where Enzo of 3Dice is deemed most helpful. I recall that he posted a couple of times n the past explaining the meaning of variance and quoting figures as to how many spins on average is required to hit a feature/bonus round for the slots he mentioned. I am sure if you pm him you will get the figures for the slot you are interested in knowing.

 

[bvu2011]

Liking or not liking a casino is all well and good but it all comes down to faith.

One thing I have learned from this forum is no matter how much experience you think you have or how many spins or hands you have played you will have a hard time convincing anyone that a casino could possibly be cheating.

If you play 1000 spins and have 40% RTP people will tell you that is not a big enough sample to judge by. If you sample 10,000 spins you will get the same answer. Just last week I posted about how 400 spins on a given slot without a bonus round seemed excessive to me, "oh no", I was told, "you can go 800 without a bonus round." If I came on and posted that I took 900 spins with no bonus round I'm sure someone would say, "oh, that's nothing, you could go 1200 spins....."

Using that criteria I don't see why anyone would trust the third party auditors, how big of a sample could they possibly take? If you don't trust the casino then you shouldn't play there.

This week I trust 3Dice.

This is a very interesting and funny post all at the same time!! I thought there were regulations that are to be met for what you speak of? I mean are any of the people who post here third party auditors excluding the casinos and customers? lol If not, how can anyone be right?

Please excuse me I can be dingy!!lol

 

[bb28]

I have played almost exclusively at 3d for the past year and a half. I have had some awesome wins from small deposits and no wins from larger ones and I have had very long losing streaks. I've been on a losing streak and have decided my deposits will be much reduced and possibly cut out as it gets tiresome throwing money away when on one of those long losing streaks. I tend to like high variance slots but I do wonder about the weighting of them, if that makes sense. Sometimes I question the fairness due to the weighting of them.

I enjoy the free vip tourneys at times, but find the chat to be mostly a PIA. If you hang around long enough and get to know who is who, you will find a lot of dysfunction and drama, but yet it should also be said, I've met some nice people there that I do call friends. I rarely hang out in chat anymore, I just don't care for the drama. I've got better things to do. It would also be nice if they changed it up a bit on the vip tourneys. In order to have better odds of actually winning one now and then you've got to play a lot of them. I wish they would have shorter ones instead of the usual hour long ones. The same old thing gets boring after a while and it's rare that it gets changed up although occasionally it does.

The customer service is top notch, the best of the best!

I however do not like the loyalty program and wish they would revamp it. At the lower levels the benefits are quite measly and do not encourage you to redeposit. If you find yourself at the gold level the loyalty is quite nice, but you have to run a WHOLE lot of money through there to get to the gold level or above. I would think that on the lower levels they should be more offering of match bonuses to encourage you to deposit more, but that is not the way it works. And........how loyalty works is a mystery to me.

My 2 cents.

 

[mrmark21]

Then I do not understand why you do not play there because of delayed spins. Have you contacted support to let them know of your technical difficulty with delayed spins? It could be something as simple as updating a driver etc. The game you are speaking of with the black hearts is slotronomicon.

This problem isn't a technical glitch. The games just naturally play that way. I found myself clicking the spin button a kazillion times to just get the game to spin but it insisted on playing out the animations.

I actually pointed this out on a different thread where other members had the same problem as well. Can't remember the name of the thread.

So is Slotronomican high variance? Can't remember.

 

[mattsgame]

This problem isn't a technical glitch. The games just naturally play that way. I found myself clicking the spin button a kazillion times to just get the game to spin but it insisted on playing out the animations.

I actually pointed this out on a different thread where other members had the same problem as well. Can't remember the name of the thread.

So is Slotronomican high variance? Can't remember.

If you click the little Cog in the top left hand corner you can change the settings of how how the slot operates (well any game for that matter). You can turn off certain animations, make the reels spin quicker, optimize performance or speed and a few other things.

Maybe try this? Then when you play tournaments you can get a kazillion spins in like everyone else.

As for Slotronomican, it is high variance, it is a good game and it is a bloody frustrating slot

 

[bvu2011]

If you click the little Cog in the top left hand corner you can change the settings of how how the slot operates (well any game for that matter). You can turn off certain animations, make the reels spin quicker, optimize performance or speed and a few other things.

Maybe try this? Then when you play tournaments you can get a kazillion spins in like everyone else.

As for Slotronomican, it is high variance, it is a good game and it is a bloody frustrating slot

Thank you matt - I am too analytical to respond to such a post. haha

 

[BMWSTACK]

If you hang around long enough and get to know who is who, you will find a lot of dysfunction and drama, but yet it should also be said, I've met some nice people there that I do call friends. I rarely hang out in chat anymore, I just don't care for the drama. I've got better things to do. .

Well first off I don't spend time in chat, so in all fairness to chat, take a large group of people in any setting and you will experience the same dysfunction and drama.

The dysfunction and drama can be a lot of fun though. I have spent my fair share just watching chat and it can be very entertaining, like a real, non staged Jerry Springer episode.

Yes indeed I have seen plenty of great people in there, take that large group of people, and your bound to make some friends.

I do also agree with the better things to do than stay in chat all day. I do see lots of People that spend days at a time in there. If any of you do spend days at a time in chat, don't be mad, its not a shot I am just jealous. If I had hit the lottery recently I may have done the same.

 

[skiny]

I don't know why anyone is surprised at losing streaks at this casino. The games are all high variance. The payouts are all pretty much 5ok heavy. All you have to do is play the tournaments on a regular basis and you'll get an idea of what the odds are you'll come out very far ahead.

I might double my starting balance on a video slot tournament once in 10 tournaments. If you're doubling your starting balance once in 10 deposits how much are you winning? That's not saying it can't be done. I've built 5 dollars up over 100 more than once but those winning streaks are pretty rare. The last time I played for real money I had two bonus features in Wild Waves and one in Tut all at minimum bet. All three combined paid less than 3 dollars. It's not because the games are unfair or cheating. It's because they're all top heavy. You either get 5ok's or a ton of wilds at once or you just don't win much.

The current all video slot tournament has been running for about eight hours now and with 137 people playing the 10th place is barely over 2x the starting balance. The top scores are pretty nice but not everyone can be hitting like those top 5 out of 137 people. In fact 132 of them apparently aren't. I went broke with under a 60% RTP but then I lost most of it in StarStruck waiting for a bonus feature that never came. If I chose a slightly lower variance game I'd probably still be playing but it wouldn't get me in that top 5.

You can win money playing these games just like you can win tournaments playing these games. Just don't expect it to happen very often. If you like playing high variance games then you'll like playing these slots. If you don't like long dry spells and lots of dead spins you won't.

You have to have the patience to low roll these games and wait for the big multipliers and 5oks. If you start pounding off 2 or 3% of your balance per spin you're more than likely going to go broke before you hit anything. It's a high variance casino and you have to play it like one. It took me a long time to get a handle on just how high variance it can be but that's why you see people low rolling small deposits winning as much as some people high rolling big deposits. They just had more patience.

The only thing that keeps me from depositing is the fact that I'm never allowed back in chat. If not for that I'd probably still make some deposits there even though I don't really play anywhere very much anymore. I can usually find an hour to kill playing the free tournament once a day. Play enough of those and you'll know what to expect when you play for real. You'll also know what games are likely to bankrupt you the fastest. It's ok to play them but if you're struggling not to lose your deposit you're better off playing the other ones.

 

[KasinoKing]

As for Slotronomican, it is high variance, it is a good game and it is a bloody frustrating slot

3Dice say it's High variance - I totally disagree!

Half of all the spins played are free-spins (and a fair few of them are at a x2 or x4 multiplier). Because of this, most of the line wins are very small to non-existent (it's quite common to go 20 free-spins and win only 1x to 3x your bet). But this also means you usually get a lot of play-time for your money, which you would not expect on a high variance game.
The top pay symbol only pays bet x 500 for 5-of-a-kind, which is very low compared to most other medium to high variance slots (e.g. nearly all MG slots pay x5000+ for the top-pay symbols).

So in my opinion, it's one of the lowest variance games 3Dice have - and I really like it!

KK

 

[shannyls]

I like the slots at 3Dice, I had been stuck on RTG for so long, it was a nice change of pace. I had one payout at 3Dice, it took 10 days to get my money. I am still awaiting another win so I too can experience this fast payout that everyone here talks about. I have more luck at RTG's, so that's where I deposit most.

 

[dunover]

3Dice say it's High variance - I totally disagree!

Half of all the spins played are free-spins (and a fair few of them are at a x2 or x4 multiplier). Because of this, most of the line wins are very small to non-existent (it's quite common to go 20 free-spins and win only 1x to 3x your bet). But this also means you usually get a lot of play-time for your money, which you would not expect on a high variance game.
The top pay symbol only pays bet x 500 for 5-of-a-kind, which is very low compared to most other medium to high variance slots (e.g. nearly all MG slots pay x5000+ for the top-pay symbols).

So in my opinion, it's one of the lowest variance games 3Dice have - and I really like it!

KK

Just out of interest KK, explain if you mean 'most MG slots pay 5000x stake OR line bet for top paying symbols'. I can't name any MG slot that pays 5000x stake for any winning line, discounting progressives? I only ask because it sounds like you are equating bet with stake.

 

[KasinoKing]

Just out of interest KK, explain if you mean 'most MG slots pay 5000x stake OR line bet for top paying symbols'. I can't name any MG slot that pays 5000x stake for any winning line, discounting progressives? I only ask because it sounds like you are equating bet with stake.

I meant line bet.
Sorry for any confusion, I though it was quite clear myself!

KK

 

[dunover]

I meant line bet.
Sorry for any confusion, I though it was quite clear myself!

KK

Cheers, because there's 'bet' (line) and 'bet' (total). Reading into it I should've guessed line bet.

 

[shannyls]

Finally won a decent sum this weekend. Requested withdrawal Saturday, still not approved. I hope this payout is faster than the last time. (took 10 days to receive $$).

 

[EyesOpen]

Yes, 3dice is TIGHT and their loyalty program is insulting. If you want to cash out any meaningful amount of money, you will likely have to deposit a lot of money first.

 

[pmutts]

Legalized OLG in USA offers bleek prospects IMO

Illegal casinos LOL.

I said "I feel".....its just my opinion. Unlike others, I don't pass it off as fact.

As it stands, online casinos can provide relatively high RTPs because they don't have to pay tax. The US government will most certainly be wanting their share, which means either high taxes on winnings or a tax on the machines....either way it will cost US players more. Also, don't think for a moment that all your deposit/withdrawals fees are going to evaporate....the money movers and banks will want their share.

If you're playing at "illegal" casinos, doesn't that make you a felon? Have you only just arrived at these conclusions, given that you only played at one of these criminal enterprises a week ago?

What you get in Vegas etc is not the same as you'll get online, that I can tell you...and I'm not just talking about the games.

Lets just wee what we'll see, and then maybe I'll revisit this thread and defer to your conjecture, seeing as you feel that you're allowed to but not me

I have to agree. You can be certain that any legislation passed that legalizes and regulates online gaming will come with some extremely hefty tax contingencies for both operator and player. I suspect legal and licensed operators of these sites--presumably companies such as: Caesars' Entertainment, MGM, and LV Sands will be forced to offer lower RTP on their games than they do at their Brick and Mortar establishments.

It is very unlikely in my mind that it we will ever see optimal playing conditions, choices, and RTP online in the USA. I have curtailed my online play to a minimum and it may cease all together soon. I like to be able to cash in my chips and LEAVE. This simply is not possible in online play--anywhere. I also like nice hotels, and wonderful meals. I like being treated like I am "someone important" in the way only the B & M can. My overall long-term losing streak, combined with my diminished ability to deal with long reversal periods when I do win has me on the verge of quitting all online play for the third and final time since 2001.