2020/21 premier league and any football elsewhere discussion

Mr_Slot5

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Looks like a done deal...

Where does this leave UEFA...

What a landmark day for football. This is seismic.
 

Davey86

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It’s not over yet or even began, just before uefa come up with changes for the champions league
Big clubs flexing? Want better terms? Who knows this will probably go on all summer
 

mack341

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from the bbc:

Bundesliga sides are opposed to the plans because the German model means commercial investors cannot have more than a 49% stake in clubs, so fans hold a majority of their own voting rights.

It is understood French Ligue 1 side Paris St-Germain are not part of the group either.

Uefa said it thanked "those clubs in other countries, especially the French and German clubs, who have refused to sign up" to the breakaway league.

However, world governing body Fifa has already said it would not recognise such a competition and any players involved in it would be denied the chance to play at a World Cup.

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It looks like a bit of a lopsided pony league to me, with 6 clubs out of 12 being english, where's the balance for a true european super league?
 

Mr_Slot5

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from the bbc:

Bundesliga sides are opposed to the plans because the German model means commercial investors cannot have more than a 49% stake in clubs, so fans hold a majority of their own voting rights.

It is understood French Ligue 1 side Paris St-Germain are not part of the group either.

Uefa said it thanked "those clubs in other countries, especially the French and German clubs, who have refused to sign up" to the breakaway league.

However, world governing body Fifa has already said it would not recognise such a competition and any players involved in it would be denied the chance to play at a World Cup.

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It looks like a bit of a lopsided pony league to me, with 6 clubs out of 12 being english, where's the balance for a true european superleague?
Looks to me like it's just to be an alternative to the CL. Looks like it's been done to shaft UEFA.

Instead of playing midweek CL games it'll be the ESL. Apparently it is not 'closed' either. There will be other routes of access based upon a team's achievements during the season.

Apparently Bayern have now said yes to joining too.
 

Davey86

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Possibly Leeds Leicester and villa and Everton make champions league spots at the end of this season 🤣 2020 2021 anything else
 

Mr_Slot5

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3.5bn for joining the super league...you can see why it was an attractive proposition. Pretty much compensates for COVID pandemic losses and more.

The thing is, UEFA, FIFA et al are all pretty much backed into a corner now. FIFA can say they will ban these players from the WC but if that's the case, we pretty much don't have a WC. They would be shooting themselves in the foot.

Too much money involved for this juggernaut to be stopped.
 

Davey86

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3.5bn for joining the super league...you can see why it was an attractive proposition. Pretty much compensates for COVID pandemic losses and more.

The thing is, UEFA, FIFA et al are all pretty much backed into a corner now. FIFA can say they will ban these players from the WC but if that's the case, we pretty much don't have a WC. They would be shooting themselves in the foot.
UEFA or fifa ‘takes over the running of the super league’ if the bribes are big enough
 

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Manchester United chairmen Joel glazer will be a vice chairman of the new super league.
what a fucking surprise their (not) they have made a hell a lot of money of Man U it just mustn’t be enough! At half time expect the World Series of baseball to be played 🤷‍♂️
 

mack341

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money talks but there could be a backlash from fans, I suppose the 6 english clubs will stop playing the league cup to free up some extra schedule. However I can't see them leaving the premier league but have this super league replace the CL, otherwise they'd surely be out of pocket, receiving only 1 tv rights rather than the two currently.
 

Davey86

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money talks but there could be a backlash from fans, I suppose the 6 english clubs will stop playing the league cup to free up some extra schedule. However I can't see them leaving the premier league but have this super league replace the CL, otherwise they'd surely be out of pocket, receiving only 1 tv rights rather than the two currently.
Could just possibly be a play to uefa calling bluff how far do you go tho?
 

Mr_Slot5

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money talks but there could be a backlash from fans, I suppose the 6 english clubs will stop playing the league cup to free up some extra schedule. However I can't see them leaving the premier league but have this super league replace the CL, otherwise they'd surely be out of pocket, receiving only 1 tv rights rather than the two currently.
It's not in place of the PL. I've digested it a bit now and it seems to me that it is purely to cut UEFA out of the readies that are generated by the CL. From what I can gather, UEFA took a fair chunk?

Reading around, I'm not quite sure what all the fuss is about. It's just a replacement CL
 

Davey86

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It's not in place of the PL. I've digested it a bit now and it seems to me that it is purely to cut UEFA out of the readies that are generated by the CL. From what I can gather, UEFA took a fair chunk?

Reading around, I'm not quite sure what all the fuss is about. It's just a replacement CL
It’s not a replacement it a direct competitor the super league and champions league would run together lol somehow
 

mack341

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It's not in place of the PL. I've digested it a bit now and it seems to me that it is purely to cut UEFA out of the readies that are generated by the CL. From what I can gather, UEFA took a fair chunk?

Reading around, I'm not quite sure what all the fuss is about. It's just a replacement CL

wouldn't surprise me, I think they're based in switzerland and have enjoyed riding the football gravy train no doubt for years, receiving bribes and all that business over the world cup locations and voting. One thing rich owners are going to be when it comes to cutting out any excess middlemen is ruthless, they must see the present setup like a forced act of charity! :laugh:
 

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Another colossal payoff too no doubt, I don't know why he doesn't now just take the handbrake off his teams, he keeps trying to play dour, safe football, boring the fans senseless while losing at the same time.
 
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