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YouTube - they did it again. Banning Slot Reviews
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Aww gonna miss the dunover watched you for years mate hope you can get something sorted soon gonna. Miss your vids
Some sore losers of the "it's rigged!!1" crowd decided to make shit up about streamers and got all the channels closed. It's easy, just write all your conspiracy theories to YT; they'll jump on the safe side, believe you and close the channel. Especially on a sensible topic like gambling. Troll could say that he was lied about playing and winning and YT isn't going to watch countless hours of videos to see if it's true or not. Much easier to pull the plug on the channel.
Just reading YT comments on most gambling channels could drop your IQ by 50 points.
Bandit was the first to promote gamban and other stuff, he showed his bank account, showed that he lost more than 100k last year, showed how much he made with affiliates. There was no streamer more transparent than him on Youtube and trolls still managed to get him banned. Shameful.
Just reading YT comments on most gambling channels could drop your IQ by 50 points.
Bandit was the first to promote gamban and other stuff, he showed his bank account, showed that he lost more than 100k last year, showed how much he made with affiliates. There was no streamer more transparent than him on Youtube and trolls still managed to get him banned. Shameful.
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Yes that’s right. The bandit is losing vast sums of money as a result of all his YouTube videos affiliate links and website.........
It has nothing to do with "responsible gambling". If it was, a channel such as the one by a streamer called Roshtein would have been gone by now if it was Youtube's' policy.
As Dunover already indicated in an earlier post, we're talking about a group of jealous, sore losing ex gamblers that are blaming all but themselves for their woes. They are a nasty bunch, I personally have had personal violent threats from them, hence part of the reason I no longer stream or produce videos.
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Why?
There is far worse content on YT; content that is far more likely to corrupt, incite violence, or even just cause freakin' nightmares that makes gambling related stuff seem like kiddies at play.
I guess the underlying question now is what exactly is the purpose of YT, as it has long moved past its original music/video streaming core. YT appear to be trying to impose a set of very questionable rules on everyone, through their inexplicable purges.
Censorship, thy name be YT.
I do agree though that the rules are a joke.
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2018 the scurge of the snowflake, "ban this ban that" "think of the children". How I wish we could go back to the 80s or 90s when snowflakes like Nut Nut were laughed away.
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I find your assessment hard to reconcile. If these 'jealous losers' have grounds to flag content as inappropriate then that is how YouTube works. You and I will very likely have differing opinions on what we deem as inappropriate. That's fine. We can choose to flag content bases on our views and that is also fine. But flagging something as inappropriate simply means YouTube will review the content and make a judgement call based on their terms of service.
If this situation is really about people flagging content as inappropriate then in this scenario YouTube are consistently siding with the complaints. Why? Because they hate craigslots and co or maybe, just maybe, they feel it's not appropriate content for their platform.
Suppose I setup a group of 'sore and jealous kitten haters' and when around trying to remove cat videos by mass reporting as inappropriate. Do you think I could get channels shut down by simply doing mass reports? I think this is unlikely as the content is most likely just banal and harmless. But can you say the same about the nature of gambling content.....? I'm not so sure.
With respect, I know the type of individuals that are behind this. I know exactly what is happening and why they are doing it and the lengths they will go through in their "campaign".
Audio copyright infringements are auto detected by Youtube as you upload the video. Anything else relies on it being reported to Youtube. It has nothing to do with "responsible gambling" or gambling per se. They found a way to get these channels closed and they are very selective on what channels they are targeting. Why are non affiliate gambling channels not being closed? That is the crux of the matter. These people detest affiliates making money off the back of gamblers losing at casinos. It really is as simple as that.
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Exactly it only takes one disgruntled person these days to get social media owners quaking, look at Facebook taking down innocent pictures of family children claiming they are somehow against their rules because a person may have seen them or someone thinks a video is promoting a certain extreme group. Social media is very wary at the moment of backlash so it will only take one person to get them looking at someone's account.
I had a silly argument on twitter a month or so ago because our water supply was not working and the local area were all tweeting the water company one person decided to take offence at me on Twitter and decided to go to my Youtube account and have a look, mock my videos and thumb them all down, the argument wasn't even about my Yotube they just decided to nosey about, it only takes one person to start something
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The vaping community have experienced the same thing. With many popular vaping channels shut down. The link is paid promotion and affiliation.
If you use affiliate links you have to declare your videos as paid promotion. Hence all the popular vape channels are clearly doing so now.
Dunover definitely appeal - it is worth a shot.
If you use affiliate links you have to declare your videos as paid promotion. Hence all the popular vape channels are clearly doing so now.
Dunover definitely appeal - it is worth a shot.
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Streaming sites are for kids? There are plenty of adult related content on Twitch that has nothing to do with gambling such as video games... Are video games for kids too? No.
When I stream, I set the "You must be over 18 to watch this" flag so the first thing anyone does when seeing my channel for the first time is that they have to accept that this is adult content.
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Youtube is losing the plot they are now going to put warnings under any video which denies the existent of climate change. So anyone who disagrees with climate change gets their video entry interfered with a warning, freedom of speech and freedom to do as we want is quickly being eroded what next Dunover uploads a video of a NetEnt review and Youtube put a warning underneath, NetEnt experts disagree this game is crap and don't listen to what this person says".
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That's a fair work-around, but I'm sure that YouTube have an Algorithm that would pick that account up as spamming and all comments would become invisible to others apart from the actual user.
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I've just checked out Craigslots YT account and it appears that he has not removed his own vids. "This video has been removed for violating Youtubes community guidelines".
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RetroArcadeMachine had his channel closed by Youtube a few weeks ago.
And all he did was mostly stream play on emulated fruit machines with the odd live amusement arcade stream thrown in.
But at one point last year, he did have a lot of trolls and a lot of thumbs downs on his streams.
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Yep. That's what happened to me, then the next strike will come in the coming few days and it'll be 'game over'. Once the first strike occurs, the end is nigh.
He was also on the hitlist I mentioned above, like myself and the Bandit etc. Interlog will confirm I'm sure, but there is an aggressive and often unpleasant campaign going on.
The first post on the below linked topic elsewhere contains some of that hit list:
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There was another topic about streamers / slot video producers before that over on that forum.
And yes, the campaign is very unpleasant.
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I couldn't make it past the 1st paragraph as my blood was already boiling. People like that are the reason why governments are piling rules and laws one of top of the other. Some people were enjoying making videos, I was enjoying watching them and now I can no longer do it because some massive asshole didn't like the videos and isn't adult enough to take responsibility for what he does. Fuck him.
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They can still make the videos. You can still watch them. What they cannot do (seemingly) is use the YouTube platform to distribute their content.
Try to keep some perspective.
They can still make the videos. You can still watch them. What they cannot do (seemingly) is use the YouTube platform to distribute their content.
Try to keep some perspective.
Were you forced to watch them on Youtube? If not what difference does it make to you if they are available elsewhere?
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My point is a platform owner retains the right to determine what content can and will be hosted and distributed on their platform. For example casinomeister forbid the hosting of certain types of content on their website and that is perfectly acceptable. If you don't like it you can always go elsewhere right?
Nobody is stopping anyone making videos. Just certain content creators are no longer welcome on certain platforms. No big deal. Go find another platform or build your own.
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Don't be an inverted snob, Youtube are trying to make people think like they do in the example I gave above they will put warnings on any video that denies climate change if that isn't political and saying you agree with how we think or don't post videos is an example of where we are heading, heading towards a left wing thinkign agenda where only certain views are acceptable.
So that is why Dunover has had his channel removed, his multiple, musical and I suspect noxious bottom burps are damaging the ozone resulting in climate change!
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This group of "ex-gamblers on a mission" has been invading Twitch channels too, last week someone was posting private information of a streamer and his family in the chat and spamming all users with private messages... I'm fine that everyone has his own opinion but it's hard to take people serious who act so silly, not only in discussions about gambling btw...
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Been away a few weeks and catching up on recent events. Pissed to hear that Dunover and NickSlots have been taken down, hopefully only temporary.
Many of these complainers who are going round causing trouble are from the UK. They are ex-gamblers who are trying to ruin the fun for everyone else. Being a moderator at the other place, I can see the IPs / e-mail addresses of those posting the constant threads about streamers and banning them. I know exactly who they are because the same people e-mail me asking for a refund because they have signed up to a new casino who aren't part of GamStop.
Most annoying are these scam live 24x7 streams on YouTube promoting unlicensed clip-joints by stealing other videos and rebroadcasting them.
Many of these complainers who are going round causing trouble are from the UK. They are ex-gamblers who are trying to ruin the fun for everyone else. Being a moderator at the other place, I can see the IPs / e-mail addresses of those posting the constant threads about streamers and banning them. I know exactly who they are because the same people e-mail me asking for a refund because they have signed up to a new casino who aren't part of GamStop.
Most annoying are these scam live 24x7 streams on YouTube promoting unlicensed clip-joints by stealing other videos and rebroadcasting them.
I wasn't blaming Youtube, I was blaming selfish jackasses who believe that since it's not good for them no one can have it. That's no different than asking the city council to close the bar down the street because you're an alcoholic.
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What had the world come to when you can't watch some one have a gamble and the links who cares about them if you dnt click and sign up dnt hurt ya does it I watched them all never once used any links to sign up and never would I just like to watch especially dazza he makes me laff
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Well you didn't miss much, except for two epic farts that most likely rendered the air "clothes peg clamping my nose bad".
On a side note, I noticed that CraigDaniel has removed all of his videos. Yet he has not been banned.
I noticed that CraigSlots has put his latest highlight/pre-recorded video on his Twitch page.
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Oh trust me they're going after Vimeo and Twitch too. Vimeo already flagging gambling content providers (as I found out) and it's a grey area on Twatch to say the least. This is why we need a dedicated gambling video server.
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Not read the whole thread but caught the basics of whats going / gone on.
Has pretty much all gambling or slots content been hammered?
Reason I ask is although I can no longer be bothered with recording my play (who wants to watch 20p and 30p bet videos these days
) and hence not uploaded in a while, my channel and all content is still readily available.
Actually watched one or two of my own vids through, nice reminder of the "pre-rigged" days 
Has pretty much all gambling or slots content been hammered?
Reason I ask is although I can no longer be bothered with recording my play (who wants to watch 20p and 30p bet videos these days
) and hence not uploaded in a while, my channel and all content is still readily available.Actually watched one or two of my own vids through, nice reminder of the "pre-rigged" days
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The problem you have Dunover is whichever site you move to they will find out and do the same, if you move to a quiet site no one will no you are there and you will get no viewers, I have been in this situation and Youtube is the only place you can get decent views to make posting worthwhile.
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Good concept but with a limited market which may not make it viable plus regulation on what is allowed not allowed especially in the UK when it comes to promoting gambling ... it would need to include wider arena such as gamers ... = twitch rinse and repeat ... the tech is all out there for someone who does not want to build such a site from the ground up. We are working with highly customable Live cam/chat software which with the right mods is basically a tube site. But would take much planning aside from legalities.
There's actually a HUGE market for a Youtube alternative, it's just that it's not financially viable at the moment which is why no one is stepping up to the plate. Youtube (owned by Google) started banning a large number of topics in the recent months.
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I just thought I would look up to see if there was a site called gambletube [no space], as you never know what's on the web, but most of the results just took me to pages involving somebody called seth gamble or kodi gamble :xxx: two people I've never heard of. Makes you wonder about all this action to restrict free speech and gambling, and this other 'stuff' which youngsters are more inclined to look up and be affected by is only a few clicks away.
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Not read the whole thread but caught the basics of whats going / gone on.
Has pretty much all gambling or slots content been hammered?
Reason I ask is although I can no longer be bothered with recording my play (who wants to watch 20p and 30p bet videos these days
I think it's down to whether or not the channel is affiliated. The beef seems to be with folks who are effectively using YouTube as an advertising platform and making money off players who go on to lose, having seen the 'promotion' of gambling via the channel.
Please note I'm not saying I support what's going on, but that's my read of it.
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A few years back they removed even banal slot reviews on demo modes, that formed part of affiliate site content with no direct links. Ask Simmo and some others here!
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Seen exact similar with vaping channels. Vaping has come under the hammer thanks to the FDA and is seen as bad, with tax dollars being taken away. Similar with iGaming in the states.
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ok this banning bs on YT sucks big time and its totally unfair, we all love Dunover videos, so maybe its time to make your own platform for casino streamers where they can post videos,links etc? to copy some of staff from yt platform or twitch, and with rules that are normal?
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Just stop the affiliate links and just upload a Normal video simples won't be flagged then
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Craig stated on Twitch that he has set his Youtube to private, so the videos are hidden while the banning storm dies down so to speak. He said he'll try putting content again on YT in September.
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If I was trying to piss the streamers off I would just report all the videos to the ASA to pretty much force the casinos to close the affiliate accounts. That would do more harm to them than just reporting the channels. I don't think I've seen a single one that is compliant with the CAP guidelines.
@dunover could you not use something like
@dunover could you not use something like
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or just host the videos on a domain/server yourself? Downside is obviously you would have to do SEO rather than just people searching youtube.
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Yes, 1200USD per year! The free version only allows 3 videos a month. To pay about £1k per year to upload mainly non-revenue earning review videos is unworkable, but thanks anyway.
As for the server, yes I could but I'd need to sort something out with my host. The space would mount up very quickly.
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wow! Thats more than I thought!
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And then there's only 200MB bandwidth a month with the free version, so that would be about 200 views on one of my 90-minute moanfests, whereas on YT I had 2-10,000 per video. Even on the 1200USD version once I have gone over 10 videos in storage (I had over 800 on YT) I pay 25c per month for each one over. So to get the equivalent of YT I would be paying 99USD per month plus another 200 per month, so 3600USD per year!
