YouTube - they did it again. Banning Slot Reviews

[goatwack]

Gambling content has been around as long as YT itself though surely, so I find it hard to believe it's a group of disgruntled gamblers reporting anything that moves.

One can forget any form of fair hearing though, considering how many videos are uploaded to YT at any given time, it's impossible to monitor effectively.....

 

[slotplayer]

I’ve got to be honest, I think there is an aspect of Youtube going after anyone monetising their channels to any significant degree. Like they cannot bare anyone else making money other than themseves on the platform. Pretty fascist business practise for such a so called “liberal” company...

They're fascist cuz they're liberal.

 

[interlog]

Gambling content has been around as long as YT itself though surely, so I find it hard to believe it's a group of disgruntled gamblers reporting anything that moves.

One can forget any form of fair hearing though, considering how many videos are uploaded to YT at any given time, it's impossible to monitor effectively.....

But there is gambling content and gambling content with affiliate links. It is the latter ones that are being targeted, purely out of spite.

I reality, the "problem gambler" shouldn't be watching neither but try to tell that to those that are closing the affiliate backed channels down!

 

[SpinUk]

They are just exercising their monopolistic powers and doing whatever they want with no recourse to anyone, for financial gain. Same as Facebook. In fact, it would be unusual if they didn’t abuse their powers, there is no alternatives around on anything like the same scale.

Unfortunately Facebook came unstuck recently with the covert datamining from Cambridge Analytics, resulting in the equisite peasure of watching Mark Zuckerberg squirm and stuble through Congress and Parliamentary questions.

The upshot of that was that other underhanded monopolistic practices came out, like censoring and de-tagging of rightwing political sites and commentators.

Now, the powers that be will put up with a bit (lot) of tax avoidance from the Tech companies, but one thing they won’t stand for is anything that disturbs or threatens their power base or democratic process. And with a right wing administration in the US it won’t be long before these companies are licensed/broken up with proper recourse. Like I said, give it a year and this sort of thing will be challengable and much less common.

 

[dunover]

Gambling content has been around as long as YT itself though surely, so I find it hard to believe it's a group of disgruntled gamblers reporting anything that moves.

One can forget any form of fair hearing though, considering how many videos are uploaded to YT at any given time, it's impossible to monitor effectively.....

Well you want to avail yourself of the facts - ask Nicola because she had stuff posted about an organized group of anti-gamblers who named my channel as well as the streamers. Essentially they all complain or flag as individuals using the same reasons and arguments whether correct or not - when they've machine-gunned YT enough, they act and strike or remove things. It's basically a volume-over-facts strategy and it works eventually. Before the channels are removed they subscribe and give thumbs-downs collectively when new material is posted. It's all part of the same thing. The streamers were their top priority as they earned the most and had more subs followed by the popular slot channels. The streamers were removed or seriously curtailed.

When gambling is finally washed away you can simply view their other 'safer' non-violating content like Drill Music, people defecating in public and violence.

 

[dunover]

You should have no troubles with with Dtube.

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No Censorship
The beauty (and the beast) of the blockchain is that it’s decentralised – meaning no one entity controls what users upload and send. No video uploaded on Dtube can be blocked to viewers because of copyright or non-family friendly content. Many users enjoy this aspect as it truly empowers their creativity without limits. Brands and media companies on the other hand will be shocked to learn that there is no way for them to pull down content that has been uploaded by other users.

Sounds good actually. Probably be limited in social media posting with one click etc. but if your videos each get their own url or embedding capability it's cool.

 

[goatwack]

Well you want to avail yourself of the facts - ask Nicola because she had stuff posted about an organized group of anti-gamblers who named my channel as well as the streamers. Essentially they all complain or flag as individuals using the same reasons and arguments whether correct or not - when they've machine-gunned YT enough, they act and strike or remove things. It's basically a volume-over-facts strategy and it works eventually. Before the channels are removed they subscribe and give thumbs-downs collectively when new material is posted. It's all part of the same thing. The streamers were their top priority as they earned the most and had more subs followed by the popular slot channels. The streamers were removed or seriously curtailed.

When gambling is finally washed away you can simply view their other 'safer' non-violating content like Drill Music, people defecating in public and violence.

I'm not denying you were specifically targeted, I just believe this was of YT's own doing, whether it be through these useful idiot groups or not, before I get too 'EdSkullMurphy' on this. I find it all too convenient in regards to the timing, considering YT would have a hard time removing content for absolutely no reason.

 

[dunover]

I'm not denying you were specifically targeted, I just believe this was of YT's own doing, whether it be through these useful idiot groups or not, before I get too 'EdSkullMurphy' on this. I find it all too convenient in regards to the timing, considering YT would have a hard time removing content for absolutely no reason.

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[goatwack]

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Youtube stating they'd remove gambling content?

I'm sure we've had threads on it before . I understand you're upset so I'll leave you to it

 

[nutnut]

I watched many Dunover videos and liked them but I do agree gambling should be banned from Youtube, problem is not everyone is banned so the rules are a joke. Ban them all or ban none.

It has nothing to do with being targeted either, it's just simply being caught in the system of clean up and many others will follow soon i'm sure. Next stop is banning them off Twitch as that is another site designed for kids so what the hell is gambling doing on it??

 

[dunover]

Youtube stating they'd remove gambling content?

I'm sure we've had threads on it before . I understand you're upset so I'll leave you to it

That's just it - I'm not 'upset' as you put it, more irritated. If I were a streamer I would be. When you look at the blank links that are going to be on this forum now and I've had to remove any links I have to the channel elsewhere it's annoying but where one door closes another opens.

 

[sufferinsilence]

I hope the cat and Dunover will be back soon somewhere! I didn't even get the chance to watch the latest Bonanza video

 

[toph11]

make a youtube channel called dunover's cat
first episode will be you telling the cat to shut for 5 minutes
second episode will be you telling us that the cat has been sent to spy on you by the missus and it will be 15 minutes long

 

[mcgameboy]

I hope the cat and Dunover will be back soon somewhere! I didn't even get the chance to watch the latest Bonanza video

Well you didn't miss much, except for two epic farts that most likely rendered the air "clothes peg clamping my nose bad".

On a side note, I noticed that CraigDaniel has removed all of his videos. Yet he has not been banned.

 

[dunover]

Well you wouldn't didn't miss much, except for two epic farts that most likely rendered the air "clothes peg clamping my nose bad".

On a side note, I noticed that CraigDaniel has removed all of his videos. Yet he has not been banned.

Well if he has no material up he has nothing to be banned for - what a fucking catch-22 YT have created for slots channels.

You're not suggesting I've been banned for a couple of rippers whilst playing slots? I though it was about irresponsible gambling, not incontinent gambling?

Hey, and I was speaking to Vimeo today - they will not host gambling videos or material promoting gambling according to them. But again they do....

The video hosters are just playing whack-a-mole it seems.

 

[gambyx7]

Somehow I can't believe that reviews are reason. You had MG session other day and maybe you didn't silenced copyrighted music while playing Game of Thrones.
Also, casino you advertised is no more (I couldn't find it, wanted to see what MG slots they have)...

I do hope you'll manage to find alternative since I really enjoyed your videos.

 

[dunover]

Somehow I can't believe that reviews are reason. You had MG session other day and maybe you didn't silenced copyrighted music while playing Game of Thrones.
Also, casino you advertised is no more (I couldn't find it, wanted to see what MG slots they have)...

I do hope you'll manage to find alternative since I really enjoyed your videos.

Copyright doesn't mean a thing - same on DHV as GoT. All they do is notify you to say you can't get ad revenue from the videos, no foul.

 

[Deeplay]

Well if he has no material up he has nothing to be banned for - what a fucking catch-22 YT have created for slots channels.

You're not suggesting I've been banned for a couple of rippers whilst playing slots? I though it was about irresponsible gambling, not incontinent gambling?

Hey, and I was speaking to Vimeo today - they will not host gambling videos or material promoting gambling according to them. But again they do....

The video hosters are just playing whack-a-mole it seems.

Well thats fucked up as some of the none streamers are already on Vimeo and as someone else said I think Twitch is going to come down on gambling hard next. Which will leave streamers with no where to go, unless someone builds a tube site specific for gambling but it would take an age to build traffic plus all the legislation on gaming / advertising etc its a night mare. Problem is YT / Twitch have massive traffic. No one can compete with that really. Shame for people like you who just post straight up videos. But I think its more to do with the streamers spunking massive bets with the whole thing skinned to look like a casino.

Seems like streamers if they dont adapt are gonna be out of a job. Cant you the host the videos on your own site ? They are a number of decent tube scripts out there. Sure the better ones are built for the adult industry but can be adapted. Just a thought ...

 

[Deeplay]

But the days of a person just wanting to start an casino / gaming affiliate business with a site few links and so on could be numbered. Not this year but over the coming few years we will see the landscape change for sure from the affiliate perspective .

 

[geordiecolin]

Well thats fucked up as some of the none streamers are already on Vimeo and as someone else said I think Twitch is going to come down on gambling hard next. Which will leave streamers with no where to go, unless someone builds a tube site specific for gambling but it would take an age to build traffic plus all the legislation on gaming / advertising etc its a night mare. Problem is YT / Twitch have massive traffic. No one can compete with that really. Shame for people like you who just post straight up videos. But I think its more to do with the streamers spunking massive bets with the whole thing skinned to look like a casino.

Seems like streamers if they dont adapt are gonna be out of a job. Cant you the host the videos on your own site ? They are a number of decent tube scripts out there. Sure the better ones are built for the adult industry but can be adapted. Just a thought ...

Craig slots was the only one I followed and subscribed too because he kept it real to begin with and for some reason I really rooted for him to do well. In recent times he diverted from realistic bets to max betting then ended up concentrating on buy in bonuses at max bet on the one slot again and again. It seemed as if the higher his subs got the less he catered for his viewers.
No wonder they cracked down on those who appeared to gamble irresponsibly,even if they where vocal about responsible gambling.

 

[mcgameboy]

Well if he has no material up he has nothing to be banned for - what a fucking catch-22 YT have created for slots channels.

Oh I understand that. I just find the decision to remove every single video from his channel to be a little strange. Especially as he uploaded an hour long video as recently as yesterday evening. As well as that, in one of his more recent vids, he started by responding to questions from his numerous subscribers regarding the relative lack of uploads he has done recently. The reason he gave was something along the lines of "he was trying to lie relatively low in order to avoid the attention of YT". He is clearly acutely aware of the recent ban on The Bandit and is presumeably trying to avoid the same fate. The guy has nearly 10,000 subscribers...and not one video.

If he is really THAT concerned about a YT ban, why would he upload a video one day, then remove it (and nearly another 200) the next day?
Seems a bit of an OTT pre-emptive precautionery strike of sorts. Surely he'd have been better off having a "business as usual" attitude and if he gets banned, then it's simply a case of que sera sera?

You're not suggesting I've been banned for a couple of rippers whilst playing slots? I though it was about irresponsible gambling, not incontinent gambling?

Haha of course not. YT might be pathetic, but they aren't that pathetic.

Hey, and I was speaking to Vimeo today - they will not host gambling videos or material promoting gambling according to them. But again they do....

The video hosters are just playing whack-a-mole it seems.

I have noticed that The Bandit has had no such issues since joining Vimeo.
But then again, I think he is on a "premium business" package, so they might not want to mess him about.
Perhaps their attitude adjusts according to how much you're prepared to pay them?

 

[dunover]

Oh I understand that. I just find the decision to remove every single video from his channel to be a little strange. Especially as he uploaded an hour long video as recently as yesterday evening. As well as that, in one of his more recent vids, he started by responding to questions from his numerous subscribers regarding the relative lack of uploads he has done recently. The reason he gave was something along the lines of "he was trying to lie relatively low in order to avoid the attention of YT". He is clearly acutely aware of the recent ban on The Bandit and is presumeably trying to avoid the same fate. The guy has nearly 10,000 subscribers...and not one video.

If he is really THAT concerned about a YT ban, why would he upload a video one day, then remove it (and nearly another 200) the next day?
Seems a bit of an OTT pre-emptive precautionery strike of sorts. Surely he'd have been better off having a "business as usual" attitude and if he gets banned, then it's simply a case of que sera sera?



Haha of course not. YT might be pathetic, but they aren't that pathetic.



I have noticed that The Bandit has had no such issues since joining Vimeo.
But then again, I think he is on a "premium business" package, so they might not want to mess him about.
Perhaps their attitude adjusts according to how much you're prepared to pay them?

So was I - I have been refunded!
480 squid + VAT

 

[steveh35]

What about using Metacafe?

 

[geordiecolin]

Oh I understand that. I just find the decision to remove every single video from his channel to be a little strange. Especially as he uploaded an hour long video as recently as yesterday evening. As well as that, in one of his more recent vids, he started by responding to questions from his numerous subscribers regarding the relative lack of uploads he has done recently. The reason he gave was something along the lines of "he was trying to lie relatively low in order to avoid the attention of YT". He is clearly acutely aware of the recent ban on The Bandit and is presumeably trying to avoid the same fate. The guy has nearly 10,000 subscribers...and not one video.

If he is really THAT concerned about a YT ban, why would he upload a video one day, then remove it (and nearly another 200) the next day?
Seems a bit of an OTT pre-emptive precautionery strike of sorts. Surely he'd have been better off having a "business as usual" attitude and if he gets banned, then it's simply a case of que sera sera?

My guess is that he wishes to lay low then once the landline is clear then he can come back with his many subscribers after other Youtubers have closed their accounts and moved on. That way he will have stolen a march?

 

[steveh35]

Youtube rules are just a joke I have had to put up with their inadequate rules for 10 years you can upload a video once and get copyright notices then upload it again and have none it is a lottery, the whole site is pot luck as to whether you break their rules or not. Recently they have got more stable on banned videos and easy to know if it will get blocked but it is usually guess work on their computer systems.