Are you really a Raging Homosexual Slots Queen? If so, I can tell by your posts.I I have been NOWHERE NEAR as blunt or rude as I could of been, I have made my points told him to get help if he needs it and to move on from it. The more he posts and reads the thread the less hes going to move on and forget hes mistakes, Draw a line in the sand and move on, I do hope he gets help IF he wants/needs it. But i think we all have reversed a withdrawal from time to time and not had an addiction.
Slow Pay Won 55.000 EUR at the Casino "CASINO SECRET" and lost it due to delayed withdrawals and cancellation
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compounding a wrong with another is entirely unhelpful..and uncalled for
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I have been here almost A YEAR, Not once have I EVER been called rude before nor have I been rude or blunt, This is just being blown out of context
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Love you to babes <3
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It's a very big difference.
I also wonder why the casino do not follow its own general terms and conditions:
"8.9. Minimum and maximum withdrawal amounts apply to withdrawals made by a Debit/Credit Card."
So withdrawals made by bank wire have no min. and max. amounts? If so, why has the casino restricted my withdrawal to 5K?
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Well, your message holds some kind of promise, even if this is your first blunt response on this forum. Thus, my question is justified and to the point. I'll accept an apology soon from you to the OP, thank you!
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Very sad but familiar story. As a player I think if you have a big win that needs investigating before withdrawals can be made, your whole account should be locked so you cannot bet or deposit. It's only fair. You should at least be able to ring-fence the money out of the reach of temptation if you cannot withdraw it. I feel sad for the OP. A win like that throws all reasonable judgement out of balance and it's easy to get swept up in a whirlwind, with the inevitable consequences.
As if that's not bad enough, you then get ESCJAMIE chiming in and telling you to 'get over it ffs'. Dangerous lack of sympathy on show there, bordering on downright insensitive.
The money's gone, OP. The money's gone
Put it behind you as best you can, and DON'T try to chase it any further. I can't offer any advice better than that.
All the best - Lemon
As if that's not bad enough, you then get ESCJAMIE chiming in and telling you to 'get over it ffs'. Dangerous lack of sympathy on show there, bordering on downright insensitive.
The money's gone, OP. The money's gone
Put it behind you as best you can, and DON'T try to chase it any further. I can't offer any advice better than that.All the best - Lemon
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Good god is there a full moon? Half of the forum seems to be suffering from sever PMT today
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Ouch. Spunk 55k up the wall or spunk on loads of rent boys with the 55k. I no my choice.
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Jesus Christ u durty clurt my straight eyes shouldn't be subjected to thon sort of talk lol
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You know what guys I've had enough of this now the amount of you piping up having digs at me over and over for something which I said when others have also told this person they have no control over the gambling and to seek help and thats its there own fault, Yet they have had none of this abuse givin to them like your giving me . You guys preach about words could have an affect on the OP, yet its a different rule for me when your all ganging up slamming me down. I GET IT you guys didn't like what I said fair enough, it dont take 10 of you to keep saying the same shit, Keep pushing guys and see where it ends up.
Only thing I will so sorry for is " Get over it ffs" yeah probs shouldn't of worded it like that FAIR ENOUGH, but the rest I stand by
Only thing I will so sorry for is " Get over it ffs" yeah probs shouldn't of worded it like that FAIR ENOUGH, but the rest I stand by
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You cannot play the victim when everything that has been said has been a direct consequence of your own words. This is exactly why people should think before saying something.
I'll personally give you the benefit of the doubt and accept that you didn't necessarily realise the potential effects that your words may have had on this person as I don't like to think bad of anyone if I can help it. However, it will perhaps serve as a reminder in future to practice a little bit of goodwill and tact towards someone who may be of vulnerable state of mind.
Also, yes, a line should be drawn now.
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I could do with a line to sober me up
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wow you could have taken a year or 2 off of work with all of this money
oh well, it was your choice
oh well, it was your choice
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Black and white for me here, the OP wouldn't have been here if he had reversed and won even more, gamblers greed is what i call it.
I've been there myself and know how much it hurts and if a few comments on a forum can be deemed enough to possibly send someone over the edge then why do we have forums at all.
@ESCJAMIE I'm with ya bud!
I've been there myself and know how much it hurts and if a few comments on a forum can be deemed enough to possibly send someone over the edge then why do we have forums at all.
@ESCJAMIE I'm with ya bud!
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to OP what were you expecting?
were you expecting to make a million dollars from 55k?
were you expecting to double it?
what were you thinking?
were you expecting to make a million dollars from 55k?
were you expecting to double it?
what were you thinking?
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grammar in that sentence has me on edge :-/
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Well no, but that's like saying someone wouldn't be at the dentist had they not broken a tooth or at the doctors had they not got ill.
The fact is, in a moment of madness, he played back 55k of winnings. A vast majority of people on this forum will know exactly what it's like to get sucked in within the moment, you lose all sense of reality. It's oh so easy to do when gambling. Most gamblers will have been there to some degree.
Except, we're not talking about a few hundred quid here, we're talking life changing money for a lot of people. It's oh so easy to sit here and shake our heads but the fact is it could happen to any of us, regardless of how strong willed you think you are.
The fact of the matter is, casinos should not be preying on people like this, money should not be sat pending and playable for that long. It's predatory.
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I can agree with some of what you say.
It is a hell of a lot of money to squander. Never ever will i have a chance to see money like that in my life. But if i did ever win that amount then stupidly somehow managed to blow it i don't know how i could live with doing it.
So like you said there is no need to keep pointing out what an idiot he was. People will never know how someone feels till they are in that situation. It will probably take him a long time to get over it if he ever does. I would personally never blow that sum of money if i ever hit it but say i did i know it would push me right over the edge.
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Belive me or not but the reason why I have played with my winnigs was NOT to win more money or to double it. By the way I raised the 55k to 68K for a while. The reason I kept playing was because CASINO SECRET gave me the feeling that they wont pay me out anyway. It was too unrealistic to me. I had 55K on my account but their withdrawal limit was only 5K. In the moment when the offical two days of processing time (for withdrawls) was over and they argued with "gamecheck in my case", I got angry and this is the result of it......
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Thank you, [U][COLOR=#0066cc]Mr_Slot5[/COLOR][/U]!! I absolutly agree with you. If a Casino wants to make a "gamecheck", all well and good, BUT than all winnings have to be "frozen" during this check!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Player should not be able to play with it and thats it. Nobody can say how long such investigations last. Everthing else is simply unethical conduct. I can deposit 10.000 EUR within 30 seconds but when it cames to withdrawals, other rules applies......
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Maybe it's a self-parody, maybe not. Who knows. He's certainly raging about the bloke trying to get some gambled reversals money back, the rest I'll leave you to imagine. But do the imagining in your mind, not on here please. The thread is about reversing 55k.
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And that my friend is the one HUGE bit of reversal psychology which rarely, if ever gets discussed or mentioned here. The lack of trust at a site you don't know well, which channels your thoughts into a fatalistic and negative vein. I know you messed up, but I totally understand your reasoning. Now the thought is "If I hadn't have done that, maybe they would have paid me OK...." It's a total head-f.
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I mean, i agree Jamie worded it a bit harsh, but alot of people have said exactly the same thing and more with their comments. (his own fault, no self control etc)
And looking on op:s posts it kind of looks like he still thinks there is some sliver of a chance he might see some "goodwill" from the casino, and there is just no way that is happening, not now, not ever.
Best is to sum this up as a really really harsh life lesson, and then do like Elsa, and let it go.
And looking on op:s posts it kind of looks like he still thinks there is some sliver of a chance he might see some "goodwill" from the casino, and there is just no way that is happening, not now, not ever.
Best is to sum this up as a really really harsh life lesson, and then do like Elsa, and let it go.
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Raging? Not in the slightest mate if you wanna here raging maybe go back to your new slot video you did a while back when you had the builders in or something kept banging and drilling now that was raging scared me you sounded like you was gonna kill someoneMaybe it's a self-parody, maybe not. Who knows. He's certainly raging about the bloke trying to get some gambled reversals money back, the rest I'll leave you to imagine. But do the imagining in your mind, not on here please. The thread is about reversing 55k.
btw OP.
you already saw that the casino do not want to give you your money, you waited 48 hours for your withdrawals to process (you would only be allowed to have one 5k withdrawal you said as there is a limit)
do you really think that they will give you anything back? like honestly this casino looks like straight trash to me.
Surely casinos shhould not be allowed to keep your money after the 48 hour period though?
who knows really. doesn't seem like the casinos get punished enough for things like this anyway.
you already saw that the casino do not want to give you your money, you waited 48 hours for your withdrawals to process (you would only be allowed to have one 5k withdrawal you said as there is a limit)
do you really think that they will give you anything back? like honestly this casino looks like straight trash to me.
Surely casinos shhould not be allowed to keep your money after the 48 hour period though?
who knows really. doesn't seem like the casinos get punished enough for things like this anyway.
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Lacoste2020
Once I was in a similar situation as yours, being drunk I lost 25K in one evening. This money was won from a £150 deposit. Playing roulette at 1-5K per spin was crazier than riding a rollercoaster... On next morning I did not wanna wake up. When I was having a coffee and smoking a cigarette I thought - WTF I have done and what I could have bought for this money...
These thoughts in my mind were following me for a couple of days and then I realized that no point to regret about anything as there is no way to turn back time and the life still goes on.
And the important thing that was calming me down is that I lost not 25K of my own money but only £150.
This gave me a lesson for the rest of my life - never regret about the past! Regretting about something is pointless and if you regret - you feel bad and only hurt your self more.
Focus on what's happening now and your future.
Once I was in a similar situation as yours, being drunk I lost 25K in one evening. This money was won from a £150 deposit. Playing roulette at 1-5K per spin was crazier than riding a rollercoaster... On next morning I did not wanna wake up. When I was having a coffee and smoking a cigarette I thought - WTF I have done and what I could have bought for this money...
These thoughts in my mind were following me for a couple of days and then I realized that no point to regret about anything as there is no way to turn back time and the life still goes on.
And the important thing that was calming me down is that I lost not 25K of my own money but only £150.
This gave me a lesson for the rest of my life - never regret about the past! Regretting about something is pointless and if you regret - you feel bad and only hurt your self more.
Focus on what's happening now and your future.
probably the best post on the thread
This is rogue behavior by the casino. If the casino has rules where it says that withdrawals will be processed in 1 to 3 days. You should expect the withdrawal to be proceed within that time. If this has not happened the company breech it's own terms.
If you go to a company and buy something. They say it will be ready in 1to 3 days. After this time they never contact you so you go back to the company to ask then why the order is not ready after 3 days. They say it will be other 2 days then that company has broke the contract and you can ask for a refund .
So why can casino say that they will process your withdrawals in 1 to 3 days and it doesn't happen. Why is it the customer fault that he reversed the withdrawal. The company did not process the withdrawal within the time frame. The company should be held responsible. If they are not like now they will continually abused their postion. If this happen in UK you can take the company to small claims court and the judge can decide. They will look at the company terms and conditions .The terms and conditions of company have said that the withdrawal will be processed within 1to3days . The judge will ask why was the withdrawal not processed after 3 days. What if the withdrawals pending for more then 3 days like 5 days the judge will ask why is the withdrawal pending for more then 5 days. This happened to me. They never even processed after 5 days they never contact me once to tell me why. I made over 96 withdrawals with the company. I waited for normal time of 24to48 and also 5 days and none where processed the company never email me. I spoke to a lawyer and they agreed what the company did was breech it own terms and conditions and the contact was void.
If you go to a company and buy something. They say it will be ready in 1to 3 days. After this time they never contact you so you go back to the company to ask then why the order is not ready after 3 days. They say it will be other 2 days then that company has broke the contract and you can ask for a refund .
So why can casino say that they will process your withdrawals in 1 to 3 days and it doesn't happen. Why is it the customer fault that he reversed the withdrawal. The company did not process the withdrawal within the time frame. The company should be held responsible. If they are not like now they will continually abused their postion. If this happen in UK you can take the company to small claims court and the judge can decide. They will look at the company terms and conditions .The terms and conditions of company have said that the withdrawal will be processed within 1to3days . The judge will ask why was the withdrawal not processed after 3 days. What if the withdrawals pending for more then 3 days like 5 days the judge will ask why is the withdrawal pending for more then 5 days. This happened to me. They never even processed after 5 days they never contact me once to tell me why. I made over 96 withdrawals with the company. I waited for normal time of 24to48 and also 5 days and none where processed the company never email me. I spoke to a lawyer and they agreed what the company did was breech it own terms and conditions and the contact was void.
This is rogue behavior by the casino. If the casino has rules where it says that withdrawals will be processed in 1 to 3 days. You should expect the withdrawal to be proceed within that time. If this has not happened the company breech it's own terms.
If you go to a company and buy something. They say it will be ready in 1to 3 days. After this time they never contact you so you go back to the company to ask then why the order is not ready after 3 days. They say it will be other 2 days then that company has broke the contract and you can ask for a refund .
So why can casino say that they will process your withdrawals in 1 to 3 days and it doesn't happen. Why is it the customer fault that he reversed the withdrawal. The company did not process the withdrawal within the time frame. The company should be held responsible. If they are not like now they will continually abused their postion. If this happen in UK you can take the company to small claims court and the judge can decide. They will look at the company terms and conditions .The terms and conditions of company have said that the withdrawal will be processed within 1to3days . The judge will ask why was the withdrawal not processed after 3 days. What if the withdrawals pending for more then 3 days like 5 days the judge will ask why is the withdrawal pending for more then 5 days. This happened to me. They never even processed after 5 days they never contact me once to tell me why. I made over 96 withdrawals with the company. I waited for normal time of 24to48 and also 5 days and none where processed the company never email me. I spoke to a lawyer and they agreed what the company did was breech it own terms and conditions and the contact was void.
If you go to a company and buy something. They say it will be ready in 1to 3 days. After this time they never contact you so you go back to the company to ask then why the order is not ready after 3 days. They say it will be other 2 days then that company has broke the contract and you can ask for a refund .
So why can casino say that they will process your withdrawals in 1 to 3 days and it doesn't happen. Why is it the customer fault that he reversed the withdrawal. The company did not process the withdrawal within the time frame. The company should be held responsible. If they are not like now they will continually abused their postion. If this happen in UK you can take the company to small claims court and the judge can decide. They will look at the company terms and conditions .The terms and conditions of company have said that the withdrawal will be processed within 1to3days . The judge will ask why was the withdrawal not processed after 3 days. What if the withdrawals pending for more then 3 days like 5 days the judge will ask why is the withdrawal pending for more then 5 days. This happened to me. They never even processed after 5 days they never contact me once to tell me why. I made over 96 withdrawals with the company. I waited for normal time of 24to48 and also 5 days and none where processed the company never email me. I spoke to a lawyer and they agreed what the company did was breech it own terms and conditions and the contact was void.
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Sucks. But a lesson for next time.
I know how annoying it is th Ugh. I had the same but then with 1.6k. Casino could only have 1 withdrawal at a time, 24 hour time frame and no weekend withdrawals.. and not able to deposit if you had a withdrawal pending.
On top of that the complaints team said they do withdraw on weekends, while nine waspendibg over 24h after time iut
I know how annoying it is th Ugh. I had the same but then with 1.6k. Casino could only have 1 withdrawal at a time, 24 hour time frame and no weekend withdrawals.. and not able to deposit if you had a withdrawal pending.
On top of that the complaints team said they do withdraw on weekends, while nine waspendibg over 24h after time iut
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Raging? Not in the slightest mate if you wanna here raging maybe go back to your new slot video you did a while back when you had the builders in or something kept banging and drilling now that was raging scared me you sounded like you was gonna kill someone
I don’t get it. Right under your name it says raging...i think that’s why he said it...
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Sorry but i know it is bad that you lost the money and are feeling so down but you need to try and move on before it destroys you. The money is lost now and you will never get it back.
The reason withdrawals were not processed right away is because the casino told you they had to do a gamecheck as it was a huge amount of winnings. That can take days to check with the provider and until they get the okay that the winnings were fine then they will not process withdrawals. You knew that then played it all back.
It should have been a case of you not playing till it was all sorted. But you chose to play it all back. The casino is not to blame it was sadly your choice. I know it is hard to accept that you lost it all an if possible you would like some back. But it is not going to happen. No matter how bad you feel the money is gone. For your sake you really need to try and move on.
I'm not op lol
In my case. I opened a account with a betting company. In December. I made in total 96 withdrawals. The company in the whole of December never contacted me once. I made 96 withdrawals. They never process even one. The pending time was 24 to48 hours. I also waited 5 days. Nothing no withdrawals processed or no emails . In my case how would this be customers fault?. I deposited they took money instantly.
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What happened to the 96? Did u cancel?
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Lol sorry i was half asleep when posting.
But end of the day it will still help OP reading it. The reasons his withdrawal was not done right away was because casino told him they needed to do a gamecheck like most do for that sort of money. He just needed to be patient.
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Not sure what the poster was expecting but if its support for his idea that the casino was at fault and should
refund him he really has accept that this is never going to happen and move on.
I would think myself lucky the whole episode only cost 600 euro,years ago i did something similar but the win
only covered losses and reversing it was an actual loss, could not blame anyone but myself and my stupid
lack of self control.
refund him he really has accept that this is never going to happen and move on.
I would think myself lucky the whole episode only cost 600 euro,years ago i did something similar but the win
only covered losses and reversing it was an actual loss, could not blame anyone but myself and my stupid
lack of self control.
My biggest reversal clusterfuck to date was still 'only' £1500 a couple of years ago. Let's just say I cried inside for a duration, and still get the odd flashback from time to time 
So even as you're watching the amount dwindle before your eyes, you convince yourself that just one good hit could remedy your cockup, as it was that 'one hit' that took you there...
Definitely painful and one to suck up
Oh God I feel sick again
So even as you're watching the amount dwindle before your eyes, you convince yourself that just one good hit could remedy your cockup, as it was that 'one hit' that took you there...
Definitely painful and one to suck up
Oh God I feel sick again
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From now on, I am a big opponent agaist every casino who uses stall tactics like in my case. "Casino Secret" had 4 working days to process my withdrawl. I have been through the general terms and conditions of the casino and I read plenty of mistakes/false informations/discrepancies.
Let me make it clear: There is absolutly no way to capitulate and close this case as nothing has happend. And if needed, I will invest further 10.000 EUR for lawyer and court proceedings to enforce not only my own rights but to enforce the casinos to rethink their bad businesses.
Casinos should start to learn that this is a rouge and unfair behaivor and this has to be stoped!!!! Therefore this case is also a big chance for Casino Secret.
TO ALL: Happy for everyone who wants to support me in my efforts. This is just my opinion. You dont need to share it and I respect all answers in favor of Casino Secret. But my position is very clear.
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You willing to spend 10k on lawyers yet few posts back you was asking for 5k back off the casino. I'm no maths genius but save the 10k on lawyer fees and you much better off over all.
Yes in my case where I made 96 withdrawals. The terms was that withdrawals will be proceed within 24to48hours. It will take no longer then 5 days I was fully verified. In the whole month at no stage did they ever contact me. They never processed even one . After a month I was fed up and contacted them. They blamed me for making a withdrawals but where happy to take over 100 deposit in a month. They didn't want to pay how is that allowed in UK.
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I would expect the best the casino might offer you would be around $50 with wagering, on a $600 lost deposit.
It's from the winter of 2007, before I joined CM, but a steno pad detailing my reversal(s) of a $2300 win still lives right beside my computer.
Live and learn friend, live and learn. There are RG tools to help prevent this in the future, and it is really important that you don't look at as losing $55K, or you will forever be chasing that "loss". You lost $600.
It's from the winter of 2007, before I joined CM, but a steno pad detailing my reversal(s) of a $2300 win still lives right beside my computer.
Live and learn friend, live and learn. There are RG tools to help prevent this in the future, and it is really important that you don't look at as losing $55K, or you will forever be chasing that "loss". You lost $600.
