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Zack

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Not sure but it seems to be working,for deposits anyways..
the way ive been making deposits is with a mastercard giftcard.they all seem to like them havent had one rejected yet.
Spin Palace got intouch with me after making a dep with one the next day.
told them what i had and where i buy.she said you are the first depositer with such a thing.
I said jackpot. do i win something.
never heard boo from the again about the card.

so is that the best way to make a dep.no account info or bookers fees

and when iam lucky enough to WIN someday soon
Can i just ask for a check from these casinos.

i know it will take longer to receive but 2 or 3 week is ok with me.
would that be standard for a check
also would you have to give documents to them

would this be the best way to dep and withdraw from casinos.

Thanks this is a great site..Cheers
 
Well Zack I can see this post is not getting much attention and I think you need to understand that for a relatively new poster.. it usually scares off others to have someone new inquire about deposit and withdrawal options because of all the US hulla-baloo!;)

as well as this should be posted in "america the beautiful' maybe a mod can move it for you???

btw.. M/c is not your best option. they will shut you down real fast from past experience.. but if you go to the search option above and type in "deposit options" it will bring up a list of threads for you!!
Good luck!:thumbsup:
 
I don't see any need for this to be in ATB. The options that we use up here, are different than what the US uses, for the most part anyway.

Zack, I also use a Mastercard and have never had one single problem. I use it at 32Red, Inetbet and 3Dice. It is the prepaid variety that I got from Money Mart. When you want to load it, you just go to your local Money Mart, and if you are performing some other transaction (ie. cheque cash, Western Union, bill pay, etc), the load is free. If you are JUST loading the card, there is a $2 fee. Patrina mentioned something about a monthly fee you can pay instead, but I prefer to just pay as I go. They also charge a % for each transaction....for me it works out to about 50 cents to 1 dollar per transaction, depending if it is in Canadian dollars or US dollars. It works like a charm, and like I said, never had a problem with it. You can check your account online, and they even break down your spending into different areas, and gaming is one of them.

For withdrawals, I use Moneybookers. Once the casino sends payment, it's in your account instantly. From there, you can request a cheque withdrawal, which will be in US dollars, and the fee is a modest $4.95 (maximum). You also have the option of withdrawing to your bank account, but I prefer to not register a bank account with any ewallet. You can also fund Moneybookers from your Credit Card (not a prepaid one though), or through a wire transfer from your bank. But, for the wire transfer, you actually have to request your bank to send the money. You can't initiate it through the MB site. And be prepared to verify your identity with MB as well. But for an ewallet, they are tops in my book.

I would imagine you could also request a cheque withdrawal direct from any casino. Only thing with 32Red, is that they only issue cheques in British pounds, and that could be a pain when it comes to cashing it....only because of the "hold" on international cheques in a currency other than US dollars/Cdn dollars.

Knock on wood, but these methods have worked for me for years, with nary a glitch ever. Hope this helps.
 
I have to disagree no matter where
you are from all deposit an withdraw methods
should be discussed in ATB
even tho the OP is Canadian U are
still giving tips on how casino's operate on their
deposit an withdraw options

Big Brother is not Stupid

Cindy
 
I have to disagree no matter where
you are from all deposit an withdraw methods
should be discussed in ATB
even tho the OP is Canadian U are
still giving tips on how casino's operate on their
deposit an withdraw options

Big Brother is not Stupid

Cindy

I'm pretty sure your U.S. government knows that casinos use credit cards and Moneybookers. But seeing as that U.S. players cannot use Mastercard or Moneybookers, I don't see what the issue is. Why would they be interested in what methods Canadians use? If we were discussing options that U.S. players use, I would agree with you wholeheartedly.

Someone from the DoJ or government can still sign up to this forum if they so desire, and read the ATB forum by requesting access. All it does when a topic is moved in there, is take it out of the search engines.

A Canadian player is unlikely to come here and go to the ATB forum to get info on Canadian banking options for casinos. Makes no sense.

EDIT: I see the mods already moved it. So when Zack comes back to look for an answer, will he be able to get in here to read the thread? Or will he know to ask for access? Do new posters get a message telling them to PM a mod to gain access? Absolutely pointless for a thread on Canadian deposit/withdrawal methods to be locked away in a forum dedicated to U.S. players. Maybe it would just be better for U.S. players to not answer questions from players from other countries, unless they are sure of their info. In this case, the bit about Mastercard is completely untrue. It works fine up here.
 
Well Zack I can see this post is not getting much attention and I think you need to understand that for a relatively new poster.. it usually scares off others to have someone new inquire about deposit and withdrawal options because of all the US hulla-baloo!;)

as well as this should be posted in "america the beautiful' maybe a mod can move it for you???

btw.. M/c is not your best option. they will shut you down real fast from past experience.. but if you go to the search option above and type in "deposit options" it will bring up a list of threads for you!!
Good luck!:thumbsup:

When did the United States annex Canada?:D
 
When did the United States annex Canada?:D

Damn Mercy, is that Obama guy trying to take over the whole world already? Before he's even sworn in? :laugh:

No one told me, and funnily enough my taxes still go to Revenue CANADA. Go figure. :rolleyes:
 
Hey Zack, I have some knowledge about this and I feel the best way to deposit is through the pre-paid mc. As pina said, you pay as you go. I do know the card your speaking of, I believe it's a "Vanilla card" you only use it once? Either way, I have used all deposit methods, "echeck, ewallet, moneybookers etc" and the pre-paid card, I find is the best. With all the other options, I have had problems, (but that's just my situation, I'm not saying you will have the same problem) but, with the pre-paid card you can easily keep track of your purchases. If you call them via their # on the back of the card, they charge you like $1.75 for each call and most of the time they tell you their busy and to call back later, and you are still charged, so I highly recommend registering your card at the site as there are no fees involved. As pina said, yes, I pay the $15.00 flat monthly fee. This fee includes all transactions, loads, and you can pay bills etc at no extra charge. I think pina said this too, but if you dont want to pay the $15.00 monthly fee then you pay the $7.95 monthly fee and $1.50 for every transaction at a casino, when you load you pay money mart $2.50 and mc $2.00, So, if you play more then a few times a month then it's well worth it to pay the flat monthly fee, of course that's your choice, but if your like me and have bills to pay too, it's alot cheaper to have them directly paid with your card, instead of paying for a $4 money order or the $1 fee most places charge you to pay your bills. There is a list of perks included with the flat fee, but I dont have them handy. You can look at the site at nextwavetitaniumplus.com As well, I have another card I got from the cash store, this is a money in motion card? They charge alot more then money mart does. Echeck is real handy, and ewallet and moneybookers are also good alternatives but I found the fees high and I had a hard time keeping my transaction logs together. With the withdrawal options I always ask for a cheque, I have used moneybookers too but after the casino deposited my winnings, it took a long time to get my cheque from moneybookers. I prefer to pay the $35 courier fee (if it's a pretty good win) otherwise it will take anywhere from 7-11 days to get your money. It's a good idea to give the casinos where you play, copies of your card & ID so that in the future when you do win you dont have to go through all the hoopla. It can be a real pain in the ass running to the post office 3-4 times to get the copies or fax "right" (Btw pina, did you know when you load your card, you pay that fee to money mart and a $2.50 fee to mc as well?) I found out after about a year that paying the flat fee saved me about $30 a month, anyway, your choice of course!
Anyway nice to meet you Zack I hope this helps!!
Patrina:)
 
Btw pina, did you know when you load your card, you pay that fee to money mart and a $2.50 fee to mc as well?

That's odd Patrina, I've never paid a $2.50 fee in addition to the $2. And if I've paid a bill or cashed a cheque, I pay nothing. If I load $40, and have used one of their services, when I get home and check online, there's $40 on the card. How long have you been paying that? Cause I just did a load one day last week, and there were no additional fees.

Oh, I guess you don't pay the $2.50 now, lol....as you said you do the $15 a month thing. That is strange though why they've never taken that from me. Not that I'm complaining mind you. :laugh:

I find the Moneybookers cheques come fairly quickly...usually within 5 business days, sometimes 7 at the most. And the maximum fee I've paid is $4.98 or whatever it is.
 
I gotta agree that questions from Canadian players about our withdrawal and deposit options do not belong in the America The Beautiful thread.

And I hope I am not guilty of cross posting, but Zack asked this elsewhere and I answered there. I wanted to say ask about your withdrawal options before depositing. Rival casinos Simon Says and Slotocash do not offer cheques or bankwires as withdrawal options. And I've had trouble funding my Moneybookers account from my prepaid card, as they make an initial small deposit in Euros, but this appears on my card history as the amount in Cdn funds, and they will not accept this as a verification amount, and money mart was unable to tell me the amount they sent in euros. I could set it up so I can deposit directly from my bank account, a scenario I prefer to avoid.
 
I gotta agree that questions from Canadian players about our withdrawal and deposit options do not belong in the America The Beautiful thread.

And I hope I am not guilty of cross posting, but Zack asked this elsewhere and I answered there. I wanted to say ask about your withdrawal options before depositing. Rival casinos Simon Says and Slotocash do not offer cheques or bankwires as withdrawal options. And I've had trouble funding my Moneybookers account from my prepaid card, as they make an initial small deposit in Euros, but this appears on my card history as the amount in Cdn funds, and they will not accept this as a verification amount, and money mart was unable to tell me the amount they sent in euros. I could set it up so I can deposit directly from my bank account, a scenario I prefer to avoid.

Exact same thing happened to me Jasmine re: the verification deposit. I never was able to verify the card. And there were times when I wanted to deposit with MB, rather than CC, to avoid this documentation thing. It doesn't really matter now, as I only play three places, and I'm good for withdrawals at all of them.

And like you, I refuse to tie a bank account into an ewallet. It's just way too convenient, and I can't say that I trust them 100% either, lol. The prepaid card is the best, as you load what you can afford ie. cash on hand...when it's gone, it's gone.
 
With that wip I would have thought you didn't pay any taxes :icon_twis

No chatmaster, lol...I'm all for civil disobedience, but this gal has been paying her taxes faithfully since she was 13 years old. Nice thought though. :laugh:
 
That's odd Patrina, I've never paid a $2.50 fee in addition to the $2. And if I've paid a bill or cashed a cheque, I pay nothing. If I load $40, and have used one of their services, when I get home and check online, there's $40 on the card. How long have you been paying that? Cause I just did a load one day last week, and there were no additional fees.

Oh, I guess you don't pay the $2.50 now, lol....as you said you do the $15 a month thing. That is strange though why they've never taken that from me. Not that I'm complaining mind you. :laugh:

I find the Moneybookers cheques come fairly quickly...usually within 5 business days, sometimes 7 at the most. And the maximum fee I've paid is $4.98 or whatever it is.

Hey Pina, I am not sure why they haven't charged you that fee? When I used to do the 7.95 monthly fee, they charged me 2.50 Unless that was the money in motion card? I am curious now, I will have to check that out. I do remember the girl telling me that they charge and mc charges too, every time. I haven't had to pay that since I started paying the 15.00 fee and it could be possible that is when I stopped using the money in motion card so maybe that's it? I am going to the site and see what I can find, bbs
Patrina
 
No chatmaster, lol...I'm all for civil disobedience, but this gal has been paying her taxes faithfully since she was 13 years old. Nice thought though. :laugh:

Would like to point out that we do not pay taxes on gambling winnings, including casinos and lotteries. So if any of our south of the border friends want to come up and visit us, we won't be making any deductions from your payouts.
 
Ok, of course I had problems accessing the site:rolleyes: A few weeks ago I had lost my password and requested a new one, the guy said it was down and I would be sent a new one when they fixed their password retrieval. I gotit yesterday and tried tolog on but can't, so goes my luck, but I just clicked on the "how it works" and cant find the list of fees. But, I did just find out that you can now load your card from home! From your bank. That must be something new? Ok, got in, bb in a min.
Patrina
 
Would like to point out that we do not pay taxes on gambling winnings, including casinos and lotteries. So if any of our south of the border friends want to come up and visit us, we won't be making any deductions from your payouts.
if things dont get better here soon, i may take you up on that offer jasmine, lots of canadian friends i could be visiting.......................laurie
 
Ok, so this is what I found,
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I dont see the $2 mc fee, so that must of been the other money in motion card.

Patrina:)

p.s. The other card "money in motion" is at www.directcash.net, I went there to try and check the fees but they didn't give me any info. If the money in motion card does not charge the $2.50 fee then when I was loading my card all those times, I was being ripped off? hmmm Definitely something I am going to check out!!
 
Titanium Plus MC's site was down for quite a long time, but I've had telephone calls returned explaining the situation. I think they may still be having trouble. And I find I am taking a hit with the current exchange rate, especially since it fluctuates enough that what is initially reserved, may not be what finally appears on your statement, as they actually charge the prevelant rate at the time the merchant's request for payment is received.
 
Ok, of course I had problems accessing the site:rolleyes: A few weeks ago I had lost my password and requested a new one, the guy said it was down and I would be sent a new one when they fixed their password retrieval. I gotit yesterday and tried tolog on but can't, so goes my luck, but I just clicked on the "how it works" and cant find the list of fees. But, I did just find out that you can now load your card from home! From your bank. That must be something new? Ok, got in, bb in a min.
Patrina

Yes, but it takes up to 2 business days. So you cannot "instantaneously" transfer money from one to another, so it loses a lot of the temptation factor. But if I know that I cannot get out to deposit on my card, I can wait a couple of days by paying from my bank account. You set it up just like a bill payment. And Money Mart is now offering a direct deposit option from your bank account, so if you want to play $50 every payday or such, you can.
 
Damn Mercy, is that Obama guy trying to take over the whole world already? Before he's even sworn in? :laugh:

No one told me, and funnily enough my taxes still go to Revenue CANADA. Go figure. :rolleyes:


No one told me, and funnily enough my taxes still go to Revenue CANADA. Go figure

Not for Long:D
 
Regarding ALL comments seperating the US and Canada.

I answered a new members question honestly. Most of the long standing members here at CM tend to shy away from a newbie making thier first post about a deposit or withdrawal method. It has always been a red flag in the past.. thus the reason for ATB.

No where does it say ONLY U.S. payment processing, under "America the Beautiful." I think maybe because US posters get involved also.
When I reply to a post, veteran poster or newbie. I am not prejudice to where they are from. I answered his question, (which had gone unanswered for 3 hours.) and I answered it as honestly and informatively as I could. Which is what we as CM members are supposed to do.
No prejudice. I don't care if they are from US, Canada, Ireland, UK, Italy, China, whatever.. to me it does not matter. I love everyone equally. :D

So why can't we all just get along??

IMHO, comments about Obama or When did the United States annex Canada? are unnecessary derails.

Zack, I myself use a prepaid card, but it is All Access Netspend Visa. I used to use greendot mastercard (a prepaid) but that turned into a problem (yes, probably because I am in the US) But my preferred method is to use the Ewallet Quicktender. Most casino's will send you an invitation to Quicktender if you ask. It is fast and easy to use and also seems to be the ewallet of choice lately BUT I honestly am not sure if Quicktender is the Ewallet of choice for Canadians.:D But I do wish you luck. :thumbsup:
 
Regarding ALL comments seperating the US and Canada.

I answered a new members question honestly. Most of the long standing members here at CM tend to shy away from a newbie making thier first post about a deposit or withdrawal method. It has always been a red flag in the past.. thus the reason for ATB.

No where does it say ONLY U.S. payment processing, under "America the Beautiful." I think maybe because US posters get involved also.
When I reply to a post, veteran poster or newbie. I am not prejudice to where they are from. I answered his question, (which had gone unanswered for 3 hours.) and I answered it as honestly and informatively as I could. Which is what we as CM members are supposed to do.
No prejudice. I don't care if they are from US, Canada, Ireland, UK, Italy, China, whatever.. to me it does not matter. I love everyone equally. :D

So why can't we all just get along??

IMHO, comments about Obama or When did the United States annex Canada? are unnecessary derails.

Zack, I myself use a prepaid card, but it is All Access Netspend Visa. I used to use greendot mastercard (a prepaid) but that turned into a problem (yes, probably because I am in the US) But my preferred method is to use the Ewallet Quicktender. Most casino's will send you an invitation to Quicktender if you ask. It is fast and easy to use and also seems to be the ewallet of choice lately BUT I honestly am not sure if Quicktender is the Ewallet of choice for Canadians.:D But I do wish you luck. :thumbsup:

Bloody hell Mystic, the comment about U.S. annexing Canada was a joke. And the Obama thing is a private joke between Mercy and myself. We are both HUGE fans of his, and my comment was made tongue in cheek. You miss your happy pills today? :laugh:

Oh, and the point I was making about U.S. players, Canadian players, etc., is that we don't use the same methods that you do and so it does not matter if it's discussed in an open forum, as it doesn't affect you or your government. That's all.

If a UK player signed up and asked about the same thing, I wouldn't be able to answer as I know they have different options available than I do here in Canada. So whatever info I may provide would probably not be correct, and would be misinformation.
 
Mystic, I by no means want for anyone to fail to offer information they have.

But I stand by my statement that a question from a Canadian player should not be in America the Beautiful...I don't always get to read all posts, and it is one I do not always follow, as most things do not apply to me, nor can I offer anything constructive most times.

I've been a member for some time here, and I did not know that this kind of question was a "red flag". Isn't this something we all want to know? Especially when we first start gambling online.

And I'm pretty confident that Obama has no immediate plans to annex Canada. Palin would have worried me more :p J/K, J/K, don't shoot
 
And I'm pretty confident that Obama has no immediate plans to annex Canada. Palin would have worried me more :p J/K, J/K, don't shoot

:lolup: :lolup:

Sorry Laurie, but that was funny. Just a joke my friend. :laugh:

Like you Jasmine, I hardly ever come in here, maybe once a week. I just worry that maybe Zack may come back, look for an answer to his question, and think the thread was deleted or something.

Actually, I may PM him and tell him he needs to request access to get in here.
 
:lolup: :lolup:

Sorry Laurie, but that was funny. Just a joke my friend. :laugh:

Like you Jasmine, I hardly ever come in here, maybe once a week. I just worry that maybe Zack may come back, look for an answer to his question, and think the thread was deleted or something.

Actually, I may PM him and tell him he needs to request access to get in here.
..........that would prolly be best and less confusing for zack, good idea pina....... i got a kick out of the joke also:D..................laurie
 
Posse lol thats a new 1

good to go


Cindy

Yeah, well....I didn't wanna put Pitbull in my title. :laugh:

Still looking for a good sig line...nothing has really reached out and "touched" me yet, lol. :D
 
Well well well, hmmm, let me think for a minute.. Yes I think all banking should be in the same section. But I think us Canucks would like to be labled as well? How about "America the beautiful" and "Canada the wild" (or something else that may fit) I think us Canadians already know what the states does, affects us too, but from our own pride, we wouldn't want to be under the states name. So, all banking should be addressed in "one" section, but the names gotta go folks! Jmo and hey, I can take a joke too as long as it's not under someone elses expense!:) Btw, I am not familiar with atb, so I cannot comment more thoroughly, sorry.
Hey Zack, you still there? You ok buddy?
Patrina
p.s. And this comes from a half ass American/ half ass Canadian:D
 
It's a Small World section.

Posse lol thats a new 1

good to go


Cindy

Not just any posse jas! The P.O'd Posse ;) !!
Just when I thought I had heard and read just about everything imaginable here at CasinomeisterLand!

Back on subject (somewhat)... I myself hope that Nobody in any other country ever has to deal with anything remotely close to what US players have been through since big brother decided to control yet another aspect of our lives.
Thus creating the need for America the Beautiful.
But I thought we here at CM were more like a "family" or "neighborhood" of fellow players, affiliates, managers, webmasters, etc. who were here to share information, experiences, etc AND help each other. I didn't know someone drew a line where the country borders were?

IMHO America the Beautiful should be the place for all countries to discuss deposit/withdrawal options. Maybe instead of a whole seperate Canadian thread CM would consider a New "It's A Small World" section.:D Uniting all of us in this topic instead of dividing us even more. :thumbsup:

note: I am not implying in any way, shape or form that CM is dividing us on this subject. IMHO players themselves are doing this, whether intentional or not that appears to be what is happening.
 
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Not just any posse jas! The P.O'd Posse ;) !!
Just when I thought I had heard and read just about everything imaginable here at CasinomeisterLand!

Maybe instead of a whole seperate Canadian thread CM would consider a New "It's A Small World" section.:D Uniting all of us in this topic instead of dividing us even more. :thumbsup:

note: I am not implying in any way, shape or form that CM is dividing us on this subject. IMHO players themselves are doing this, whether intentional or not that appears to be what is happening.

And unfortunately, it has to be divided, thanks to the restrictions your government has placed on gambling. I see no reason that the rest of the world's discussion on payment options, processing, etc cannot be public info. There is nothing for any of us to hide. It's not any players creating this situation, it was your government that created it.

Those of us in other parts of the world (including Canada), are NOT under the same restrictions that you guys are, nor do we have the same worries when it comes to banking, payment processing, etc. Your situation is UNIQUE, and it requires your info to be hidden away from search engines, prying eyes, etc.

This sub forum is named America The Beautiful because it was designed to discuss American issues.....NOT Canadian, British, European, Australian, etc. Maybe someone should explain to me why players from other countries should not have our info freely accessible and openly discussed? Your situation does NOT affect us. And the payment methods we use, does not affect you or your government.

Honestly Mystic, if seeing the word Posse is you having seen everything at CM, you've been very sheltered. And PO'd? If you're referring to Rob and myself, it's not PO'd.....it's PDR. As in pee dee are.
 
Not just any posse jas! The P.O'd Posse ;) !!
Just when I thought I had heard and read just about everything imaginable here at CasinomeisterLand!

Back on subject (somewhat)... I myself hope that Nobody in any other country ever has to deal with anything remotely close to what US players have been through since big brother decided to control yet another aspect of our lives.
Thus creating the need for America the Beautiful.
But I thought we here at CM were more like a "family" or "neighborhood" of fellow players, affiliates, managers, webmasters, etc. who were here to share information, experiences, etc AND help each other. I didn't know someone drew a line where the country borders were?

IMHO America the Beautiful should be the place for all countries to discuss deposit/withdrawal options. Maybe instead of a whole seperate Canadian thread CM would consider a New "It's A Small World" section.:D Uniting all of us in this topic instead of dividing us even more. :thumbsup:

note: I am not implying in any way, shape or form that CM is dividing us on this subject. IMHO players themselves are doing this, whether intentional or not that appears to be what is happening.

America the Beautiful
Issues concerning the recent US move to ban online casinos, poker rooms, payment processing, and all other forms of decadent and immoral activity, should be posted here

The above quote was taking from the forum page itself. I was not being sarcastic, but rather just stating the facts regarding online gambling. As you will note, it states U.S, so my little CANADIEN comment was in effect to show that only the U.S. had restrictions.
 
But I thought we here at CM were more like a "family" or "neighborhood" of fellow players, affiliates, managers, webmasters, etc. who were here to share information, experiences, etc AND help each other. I didn't know someone drew a line where the country borders were?

The whole quotation shows that I was referring to here at CM. It's apparent that this is not what you guys want.. to get along that is.

Since I am NOT canadian. and the OP is......... I bow out.
 
The government did:)

yes the Goverment did but you guys the "Posse"
have taken it beyond that you have made it personal against
Mystic with comments like ""miss my happy pills"

it is a shame
IMO we as a group
race religion
gambling styles
need 2 get along
this snipping back an fourth needs to Stop

it is very childish

Cindy
 
btw.. M/c is not your best option. they will shut you down real fast from past experience..

yes the Goverment did but you guys the "Posse"
have taken it beyond that you have made it personal against
Mystic with comments like ""miss my happy pills"

Cindy, I have absolutely zero against you, nothing. I barely even know you, but from your posts, some of which I actually enjoy.

I was absolutely just waiting for the above comment, about it being personal against Mystic. Poor, poor Mystic....once again, the victim right? She injected herself into this thread with the above post I've quoted. While she may have been "shut down" in the U.S. with Mastercard, that is clearly NOT the case here in Canada, as evidenced by the posts in this thread from other Canadian players. So what she posted to the OP is inaccurate and untrue. Honest mistake on her part no doubt...but this is the whole crux of this issue. What doesn't work for you guys, DOES work for us.

Why attempt to provide info to a newbie, when you can't provide accurate info? And this is why we need to be separate, insofar as banking issues go. And then to further complicate the issue, she asked to have the thread moved in here, where the OP can't even access it, so what we HAVE posted to him is useless until he gets in here.

I'm sorry for the problems you are having in the U.S.....but, it does not affect me, nor does it affect Zack, nor any other player from other parts of the world. I have nothing to hide from my government, and had it been brought to Bryan's attention that the OP was from Canada, and not the U.S., I'm positive this thread would have stayed where it was. I'd bet money that he thought (or whoever moved it), that it was U.S. banking options being discussed.

In re: Mystic, I'm sorry, but I'm up to my ears in her victim routine, I really am. She brings it on herself, and I have to say that in my four plus years here, there has never been another poster who annoyed me to the point that she does, on a regular basis (and trust me, I'm not alone on that). Well, maybe one, and I used the ignore function for them, which is exactly where she is going right now.

Bryan, I'll take my 7 or 14 days now...whatever you deem fit, I deserve it I guess. Rest assured she is going on ignore right now, and she won't be an issue when I return. I've got a busy couple of weeks coming up anyway, so no sweat. I don't know if she is being deliberately thick, or just trying to piss off a few here. In any event, enjoy yourselves. Time for a break for this girl....real life calls. Back to my eight year old, who actually makes sense.

EDIT: Cindy, I wanted to say that my "happy pills" comment was meant as tongue in cheek humour, as was my comment to Mercy about Obama taking over the world. That's why I followed both comments with a laughing emoticon. Obviously, you don't get my sense of humour. And anyone who knows me, knows it's not my style to take digs at people, if that's what you were implying. If I have something to say to someone, I say it to them, straight out. See above.
 
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Cindy, I have absolutely zero against you, nothing. I barely even know you, but from your posts, some of which I actually enjoy.

I was absolutely just waiting for the above comment, about it being personal against Mystic. Poor, poor Mystic....once again, the victim right? She injected herself into this thread with the above post I've quoted. While she may have been "shut down" in the U.S. with Mastercard, that is clearly NOT the case here in Canada, as evidenced by the posts in this thread from other Canadian players. So what she posted to the OP is inaccurate and untrue. Honest mistake on her part no doubt...but this is the whole crux of this issue. What doesn't work for you guys, DOES work for us.

Why attempt to provide info to a newbie, when you can't provide accurate info? And this is why we need to be separate, insofar as banking issues go. And then to further complicate the issue, she asked to have the thread moved in here, where the OP can't even access it, so what we HAVE posted to him is useless until he gets in here.

I'm sorry for the problems you are having in the U.S.....but, it does not affect me, nor does it affect Zack, nor any other player from other parts of the world. I have nothing to hide from my government, and had it been brought to Bryan's attention that the OP was from Canada, and not the U.S., I'm positive this thread would have stayed where it was. I'd bet money that he thought (or whoever moved it), that it was U.S. banking options being discussed.

In re: Mystic, I'm sorry, but I'm up to my ears in her victim routine, I really am. She brings it on herself, and I have to say that in my four plus years here, there has never been another poster who annoyed me to the point that she does, on a regular basis (and trust me, I'm not alone on that). Well, maybe one, and I used the ignore function for them, which is exactly where she is going right now.

Bryan, I'll take my 7 or 14 days now...whatever you deem fit, I deserve it I guess. Rest assured she is going on ignore right now, and she won't be an issue when I return. I've got a busy couple of weeks coming up anyway, so no sweat. I don't know if she is being deliberately thick, or just trying to piss off a few here. In any event, enjoy yourselves. Time for a break for this girl....real life calls. Back to my eight year old, who actually makes sense.
....................if you must have a ban then there should be others banned, including myself, i will gladly do the time with you pina, as you were clearly baited imo, wtf:mad: all you were trying to do was help a fellow canadian and giving sound expert advice...........laurie
 
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Why are people requesting to get banned here? :what:

Ya lost me.
its just a mess bryan, zack needed the help and pina and other canadian forum members gave him sound advice and then the thread went to a.t.b section, where he may or may not be able to see.....its clear as that, no one wants to be banned lol, but it was a mere statement and i hope you read thru the lines fairly and can see how it reached this point....................laurie edit: oops, thanks bryan, posted at the same time.
 
Why are people requesting to get banned here? :what:

Ya lost me.

Can I insert my .2cents into the Casinomeister slot here? Well here goes...
Keep in mind that I am posting in GENERAL here :D
From where I'm sitting this is how I saw it going down:
I arrive here at the forum of Casinomeister and I am drawn towards a member who on a more than regular basis tells us how sick they are and how in need the family is. Okay, sentiments, wishes for best of health and luck etc, etc. Then comes along a winfall that they were robbed of.....makes headlines for abit then dies down. Then still hearing of ill health, we are informed of wrongfull doings of a certain casino regarding the RJ, after awhile that also dies down.
Then BAM!!!! Lo and behold person in general just happens to win a RJ and congrats are thrown out there. Before you know it, seems the almighty $$$$ has brought about new knowledge and new health(because you never hear another word about it) and it goes downhill from there.
Now this is just my view of person in general: seems all of a sudden CM appointed a third right hand because it seems all of a sudden they are the be all and end all and have a false sense of being more important than most regular forum members in the sense that they seem to feel they have the right to say whatever and basically tell the main man what he should do. Lord forbid if anyone should disagree with *general person* because then it is called foul play and only out to get *general person* on a personal basis.
*General person* seems to have an agenda for certain forum members and is constantly incorporating ways to get under their skin. Yet *general person* never seems to have a consequence for their actions.
Bottom line....people are sick of it and are tired of said *general person* and their holier than thou attitude.
I for the most part get along with everyone, but comes a time when enough is enough. Also, I normally keep myself out of trouble but sometimes you just have to let it all hang loose.
There you have it...I said my piece and remember, its only MY opinion. I can take whatever is handed out to me and I accept the consequences for saying my piece. :)
 
yes the Goverment did but you guys the "Posse"
have taken it beyond that you have made it personal against
Mystic with comments like ""miss my happy pills"

it is a shame
IMO we as a group
race religion
gambling styles
need 2 get along
this snipping back an fourth needs to Stop

it is very childish

Cindy

Oh pish posh:mad:
 
Since I am NOT canadian. and the OP is......... I bow out.

There was no reason for any of the personal attacks on me, my health or my family. and NO heatherad, I have NOT mentioned any of these in a long, long time! I responded to a thread started (not by me) informing members of the reason I had been missing for 2 weeks.
It is an obvious attack on me and I do not appreciate it. I have been forgiving and tried to be patient but can only tolerate so much baiting.
When you mention my win buying back my health .. that steps over a boundry. No amount of money would do that and I would not wish THIS on anyone of you.
IMHO This forum has turned around and not for the better. To allow attacks like these is uncalled for.

First I asked "can't we all just get along"... I also admitted.. "the OP is canadian therefore I bow out".. and that's that I bow out.
The thread is completely derailed with personal attacks.
 
Can I insert my .2cents into the Casinomeister slot here? Well here goes...
Keep in mind that I am posting in GENERAL here :D
From where I'm sitting this is how I saw it going down:
I arrive here at the forum of Casinomeister and I am drawn towards a member who on a more than regular basis tells us how sick they are and how in need the family is. Okay, sentiments, wishes for best of health and luck etc, etc. Then comes along a winfall that they were robbed of.....makes headlines for abit then dies down. Then still hearing of ill health, we are informed of wrongfull doings of a certain casino regarding the RJ, after awhile that also dies down.
Then BAM!!!! Lo and behold person in general just happens to win a RJ and congrats are thrown out there. Before you know it, seems the almighty $$$$ has brought about new knowledge and new health(because you never hear another word about it) and it goes downhill from there.
Now this is just my view of person in general: seems all of a sudden CM appointed a third right hand because it seems all of a sudden they are the be all and end all and have a false sense of being more important than most regular forum members in the sense that they seem to feel they have the right to say whatever and basically tell the main man what he should do. Lord forbid if anyone should disagree with *general person* because then it is called foul play and only out to get *general person* on a personal basis.
*General person* seems to have an agenda for certain forum members and is constantly incorporating ways to get under their skin. Yet *general person* never seems to have a consequence for their actions.
Bottom line....people are sick of it and are tired of said *general person* and their holier than thou attitude.
I for the most part get along with everyone, but comes a time when enough is enough. Also, I normally keep myself out of trouble but sometimes you just have to let it all hang loose.
There you have it...I said my piece and remember, its only MY opinion. I can take whatever is handed out to me and I accept the consequences for saying my piece. :)

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towards a member person in general *General person**general person* *general person*[/QUOTE]


Ok for f's sake already. We all know whom you are referring too right!? So say it, M-Y-S-T-I-C

Ok, so when I first came to the forum, and I voiced there were a few members who not only attacked my opinions, had others back them to see how much I could take, "trial by fire" I believe the statement was? Anyway, yes mystic is in bad health, yes we know about it, she is not the only one that expresses their unfortunate situations.. The girl has had alot of bad breaks, but I gotta say, I have seen the attacks and the mean comments, one poster will say something that is wrenching towards her, then all of a sudden she is under attack by all other of that op clan, whether it be "lol, good one! or an uneccesssary "thanks" or "let's all chime in and make fun of her" Yes, we have heard about her misfortunes. When she won that money from poc? (I think it was?) and got stiffed for it, there was some really uncalled for behaviour. First everyone sided with her, and then when she opens up and explains herself and why she is so upset, why she needed it so much, everyone turned around and more or less was against her, the responses were more like "Oh, well, you got f'ed so eat it!" Honestly, I told Mystic not to show her emotions too much because some will use it against her. I found out one thing about this forum and that is "If you are going to be a member here, you better be tough, and you better be able to back what you say!" So, I never knew that before, "that gamblers have to be invincable" We are all here for the same reasons right?! To support each other? So, then all is quiet about mystics loss, then (sorry was it laurie?) comes out with a confession and that mystic might (after all this time) get her money?!!!!! Mystic, is thrilled!! She is thinking, wow, maybe she will really help me, so she get's all excited and again, expresses how much she needs this money, probably hoping that anyone and everyone will back her on this especially now we have this new "revelation" Then wtf? We find out, no she isn't going to get the money. So, she becomes very upset and distressed about this, expresses this and bam! all of a sudden she is the bad one again! All hostility towards the poster that "spilled the beans" shall we say? gets turned around, twisted, and all of sudden we are feeling bad for the bean spiller. I was away for awhile so missed alot of what was going on around here, I come back and am invited to a private group, then I see there is another private group, and catch up on some threads and "goings on" and see alot of secretiveness, bashing, and so forth. None of us are perfect, sorry to have to break that to you, but I think some think they are. To be a reputable member here, and to have friends here should be valued and appreciated, it should not be used to the members advantage to say, "Hey, look at me" "I'm up here" "your down there" I have more right then you do! And here, I can make fun of you or I have power because I have more people then you do to back me on this, or, to give a member the feeling that they dont have a right to post their feelings. I don't have any bad feelings towards anyone here, I dont agree with some, and I have that right. What I dont like is the laughing at someone, the making fun of someone when they feel stongly about one thing or the other. We all have our demons, some show them a little more then others. I have shown mine too. I dont have it good either. Mystic has some pretty severe health problems, I know how she feels because I also am injured. I am not as bad as her, and thank god for that, because she has alot on her plate. You can't judge someone until you walk in their shoes. I gotta tell ya, one accident can change your entire life. That's not a mild statement. I mean your entire life, day to day things others take for granted. When your in pain your whole life is impacted. And when your in long standing pain, it affects your mind and stability. You get stressed and depressed. You wonder how your going to take care of those who you are responsible for, never mind yourself. Some days you go hungry because you are in just too much pain to cook for yourself. Trust me, on this. If you ever have an accident, say goodbye to the life you knew. So, with all these life altering events in your life, things change, you dont have the friends you used to, you come to a forum and make friends, then people turn on you. It hurts and it's sad. Before we judge someone, we should "really" put ourselves in their shoes. Just think what it would be like to be in a wheelchair, be paralyzed, have no where to live, be hungry, have all the people that you thought loved you, turn on you and leave you. And why? Because you were unfortunate enough to get hurt, or get sick, whatever reason brought you to the place you are. I see young kids fying down the street, speeding like crazy, and think, they have no idea, no idea that in a second, the life they knew could be over. Anyway, this is all jmo and my right, no? And with the atb thing, as a proud Canadian, I would like to see this listed as somewhere we "all" would feel comfortable going to. But, yes I think all banking would be more convenient in one group. Thanks for hearing me,
Patrina:)
 
patrina, i have nothing but alot of respect for you and with all that you have been through, i dont think i could ever be that strong as what you have had to deal with.........heather made a "general statement" about a "general person", she is never one to just fly off the handle so to speak , so this is something that she felt she needed to say, hence the "general person", hell she could have been referring to anyone for that matter or" joe the plumber," or "someone on another forum", it was like she said "general person," so take it for what it is a "general comment", no names were said, heather is a very sweet person and has the right to make a" general observation," she expressed herself, she didnt flame anyone as far as i can tell just this "general person", so can we all agree to get back on the topic at hand, that started out as a player needing help and stop with the baiting and bashing and such, im sure "general person," whom ever the person is, would also agree.........................laurie
 
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