When slots aren't hittin for you anywhere it's so demoralizing

[snorky510238]

Yes I know people do it, but it's not a valid strategy. There's no reason any other slot will be luckier than the one you're on (aside from rtp and variance differences).

And there’s no reason it won’t.

 

[Savatage79]

Yes I know people do it, but it's not a valid strategy. There's no reason any other slot will be luckier than the one you're on (aside from rtp and variance differences).

Says who? Well I racked up close to 100k recently in the last 2 years bouncing around, so it's pretty valid to me.

 

[snorky510238]

Says who? Well I racked up close to 100k recently in the last 2 years bouncing around, so it's pretty valid to me.

Yeah sitting there feeding a dead slot is a recipe for disaster as it very rarely turns in your favour. Slot hoppers United.

 

[TheresNoDInBonanza]

Why on earth would game programmers allow such an easily exploitable feature? If it made any difference, if you could honestly predict when a slot is hot or not we'd all be millionaires bouncing from one slot to the next then laughing all the way to the bank.
I know people think it helps but it's just confirmation bias at play, plus you'd never know all those times you'd left your "cold" machine five spins away from a jackpot.

 

[Savatage79]

Did I miss something here? Like... We got out of no where the slot police that has rolled in and tryin to lay down the law or something.

Who or what said anything is predictable? All I've ever said or asked and or done is I view it as games are maybe,, big maybe, hot or not... Somewhere at some time.

Maybe at slotocash nova 7s isn't hot for me lately but oh look I logged into casino extreme and I'm hitting decently, oh cool.. So I try to win some...thats it, that is all.

My whole point sometimes is it's hard to fathom "no" favorite game one may have being dead "at all times" on every casino.sincd they're all running on their own seperate instances . But that's simply a common mentality for anyone that's frustrated when on a cold streak.

In my experience i spread my money around in a session and yes there are times I can't hit a damn thing on one casino to go to another, same game and boom I rack up a nice cash out....i mean what exactly is there to even debate?? Nobody is talking about anything being predictable or exploitable, like...huh?

 

[TheresNoDInBonanza]

Who or what said anything is predictable?

You did.

Says who? Well I racked up close to 100k recently in the last 2 years bouncing around, so it's pretty valid to me.

Play the game at a different casino, play it on your phone, play it hanging upside down, log out of the casino and back in, close the game and reopen it in Firefox, play it in the bath tub if you like. The chance of winning will be the same.

Thinking that changing casinos/games will offer you any benefit over the long run makes no logical sense but you're clearly committed to the system so it's no skin off my nose if you want to delude yourself.

 

[Savatage79]

You did.



Play the game at a different casino, play it on your phone, play it hanging upside down, log out of the casino and back in, close the game and reopen it in Firefox, play it in the bath tub if you like. The chance of winning will be the same.

Thinking that changing casinos/games will offer you any benefit over the long run makes no logical sense but you're clearly committed to the system so it's no skin off my nose if you want to delude yourself.

I've never said that it's a guarantee anywhere, I've said it has worked for me... And it generally has. Changing games and or casinos in sessions simply means you're getting games at all different intervals, therefore who knows what the results will and can be.

There it such a thing as a dead or cold slot, I'm not going to keep throwing money into it after I've already done so. But if I enjoy that game I'll simply move to another casino in hopes that maybe I get lucky.. .how or why is this even a debatable concept in one's journey to try and be lucky?

Just because you believe that it makes zero difference doesn't mean you're right nor I saying anyone who does exactly what I'm doing will win, it's been a thing that has worked for me multiple times so what more do you want ?

 

[snorky510238]

You did.



Play the game at a different casino, play it on your phone, play it hanging upside down, log out of the casino and back in, close the game and reopen it in Firefox, play it in the bath tub if you like. The chance of winning will be the same.

Thinking that changing casinos/games will offer you any benefit over the long run makes no logical sense but you're clearly committed to the system so it's no skin off my nose if you want to delude yourself.

You’ve obviously tried all these things!!! You must just be unlucky as I always win when I hang upside down.

 

[SlotGrinder]

If you get frustrated with slots try poker for a week . After the 10th time your AA gets cracked by K4 you will be longing for a session of deadspins on DoA

 

[TheresNoDInBonanza]

Just because you believe that it makes zero difference doesn't mean you're right

Well no, but what if someone who built the slots said so? @trancemonkey ? Paging Dr. Monkey to the OR.

 

[Borgie]

You’ve obviously tried all these things!!! You must just be unlucky as I always win when I hang upside down.

I try and do a tripple spin between button presses . Made all the difference to my win lose ratio ......

 

[Savatage79]

Well no, but what if someone who built the slots said so? @trancemonkey ? Paging Dr. Monkey to the OR.

Doesn't mean a single thing to me, I'll play how I want to play

 

[snorky510238]

I try and do a tripple spin between button presses . Made all the difference to my win lose ratio ......

Just imagine the profit if you could fit a fourth spin in there. Not recommended though as a couple of my friends have ended up in hospital trying it.

 

[trancemonkey]

Doesn't mean a single thing to me, I'll play how I want to play

We all have our own ways to play.
Yes statistically it makes no difference, but psychologically it does... I move off a slot after a big win because I know they are rare, so I've beaten the statistics...

What they aren't is rigged. Or connected. Or changing based on date or time or weather.

Forget this line of thought as it's wrong.

But if you have a method you think works for you... so what. Yes it might be BS statistically but we know from all these threads that beliefs trump facts most of the time

 

[Savatage79]

We all have our own ways to play.
Yes statistically it makes no difference, but psychologically it does... I move off a slot after a big win because I know they are rare, so I've beaten the statistics...

What they aren't is rigged. Or connected. Or changing based on date or time or weather.

Forget this line of thought as it's wrong.

But if you have a method you think works for you... so what. Yes it might be BS statistically but we know from all these threads that beliefs trump facts most of the time

I think tho sometimes a forum isn't conveying what ones true thoughts are, especially when they're frustrated.

I'll try to reiterate, when we lose its easy to say it's rigged or controlled... That's natural as I'm sure many say that. Deep down I know they aren't rigged, because if I truly felt they were rigged I totally wouldn't play. I've won decent money so I know it's doable.

Its fun to vent when you're upset, and then after I do I have a nice session and all is well.. That's what this thread merely is.

You said yourself after a nice hit you move away from that slot since you've beaten the odds and I'm guessing go to a new slot, that's simply all I'm referring to when I move around as a portion of the time it's a nice session on one casino and I'm lookin for that good session hopefully somewhere else.

Like you also said they're not connected, which I know... But it sometimes just feels that they are when every deposit is identical in terms of not even being able to even get play time.. Deposit to zero, deposit to zero etc... Like 20 times at times and more....those odds just seem weird at times but like I said above when you're frustrated it's easy to say that.

I just move around in hopes to find a lucky session, that's really all I do. If I hit a casino for 5 to 10k recently like you said you beat the odds so move on, and that's simply what I was conveying above. My mindset is if I'm not hittin here then hopefully I'll hit over there....its just luck,, nothin more

 

[labeled]

This thread has turned decidedly & unnecessarily hostile. Dude, part of playing is the "fun" of hitting. So if you're sitting on a slot that's dead do you just sit there, day after day, deposit after deposit? No, you try some other game you like, so see if it's hitting for you. Part of "luck" is being at the right place/right time. Online gaming is no different. Games are set by the provider/creator w/a certain rtp. If one game is playing poorly, why wouldn't you try to find one that's meeting its programmed rtp?

 

[Playford7]

This thread has turned decidedly & unnecessarily hostile. Dude, part of playing is the "fun" of hitting. So if you're sitting on a slot that's dead do you just sit there, day after day, deposit after deposit? No, you try some other game you like, so see if it's hitting for you. Part of "luck" is being at the right place/right time. Online gaming is no different. Games are set by the provider/creator w/a certain rtp. If one game is playing poorly, why wouldn't you try to find one that's meeting its programmed rtp?

Pretty sure ‘trancemonkey’ agrees with you from a players point of view.
Also loads of us play on ‘instinct’ and ‘feelings’
Nothing wrong with that and nobody has said there is.
But sadly there is a true side to it ‘facts’ this can’t be argued with.
Just play how you want, use your own ‘method’ mate, honestly it’s all as random as hell.
I also can’t seem to find any hostility

 

[Savatage79]

This thread has turned decidedly & unnecessarily hostile. Dude, part of playing is the "fun" of hitting. So if you're sitting on a slot that's dead do you just sit there, day after day, deposit after deposit? No, you try some other game you like, so see if it's hitting for you. Part of "luck" is being at the right place/right time. Online gaming is no different. Games are set by the provider/creator w/a certain rtp. If one game is playing poorly, why wouldn't you try to find one that's meeting its programmed rtp?

Exactly Labeled, I simply assumed it was just how everyone rolled. If one casino is doing nothin for me and I'm x amount of bucks deep, jumping to a new casino might yield a better session...i don't get why anyone would jump on that

 

[Playford7]

Exactly Labeled, I simply assumed it was just how everyone rolled. If one casino is doing nothin for me and I'm x amount of bucks deep, jumping to a new casino might yield a better session...i don't get why anyone would jump on that

There is no facts behind that.
I’ve played at ikibu mega amounts last year, probably 100’s of losing deposits.
Yet 3/4 sessions at casumo gave me massive profit.
It’s nice to think changing games or casinos make a difference, sadly in reality it makes no difference.
It only makes a player feel better

 

[zreb]

If the slots are fair (not rigged or anything), there's no rational reason to change to a different one when losing. But changing won't hurt you either, so by all means go for it if it makes you happy.

 

[Savatage79]

There is no facts behind that.
I’ve played at ikibu mega amounts last year, probably 100’s of losing deposits.
Yet 3/4 sessions at casumo gave me massive profit.
It’s nice to think changing games or casinos make a difference, sadly in reality it makes no difference.
It only makes a player feel better

Right, it's something I assumed most just do if a slot is absolutely dead. I never said anything factual, that's why I said that it "might yield a better session than what I was experiencing.

 

[Savatage79]

If the slots are fair (not rigged or anything), there's no rational reason to change to a different one when losing. But changing won't hurt you either, so by all means go for it if it makes you happy.

Why would anyone sit endlessly on a slot that is zero fun by doing absolute shit ?

 

[zreb]

Why would anyone sit endlessly on a slot that is zero fun by doing absolute shit ?

Because it's not "doing" absolute shit. It's "done" absolute shit. Past tense. If it's a fair slot, it's just as random now as when it started.

If you stay at the same slot, it may keep losing, or it may turn around and win.

If you move to a new slot, you may keep losing, or you may turn it around and win.

The difference is only psychological. If moving to a new game feels like a psychological reset and makes you happier, by all means go for it. Most of the time, you're not going to get your money back by switching to a new slot (of course you will sometimes). Which is the exact same as if you stayed - you'd usually lose and occasionally get it all back.

If your own perception and experience tells you otherwise, you've simply been tricked by the randomness and variation that's inherent to gambling. We as people aren't good at watching patterns without bias and selective memory, and when you mix that in with the huge variance that can be present with slots - variance which can on rare occasion last for months without returning to normal - it's not surprising if you find that one method appears to work better than another for you. But in reality, switching to another casino has zero influence on your chance if both casinos offer the exact same game.

Some people have the exact opposite perception as you - that if a slot isn't paying, it's "due" to pay it back. But I would tell them the same thing - it's completely random, and your odds are the exact same as when you started.

 

[TheresNoDInBonanza]

Because it's not "doing" absolute shit. It's "done" absolute shit. Past tense. If it's a fair slot, it's just as random now as when it started.

If you stay at the same slot, it may keep losing, or it may turn around and win.

If you move to a new slot, you may keep losing, or you may turn it around and win.

The difference is only psychological. If moving to a new game feels like a psychological reset and makes you happier, by all means go for it. Most of the time, you're not going to get your money back by switching to a new slot (of course you will sometimes). Which is the exact same as if you stayed - you'd usually lose and occasionally get it all back.

If your own perception and experience tells you otherwise, you've simply been tricked by the randomness and variation that's inherent to gambling. We as people aren't good at watching patterns without bias and selective memory, and when you mix that in with the huge variance that can be present with slots - variance which can on rare occasion last for months without returning to normal - it's not surprising if you find that one method appears to work better than another for you. But in reality, switching to another casino has zero influence on your chance if both casinos offer the exact same game.

Some people have the exact opposite perception as you - that if a slot isn't paying, it's "due" to pay it back. But I would tell them the same thing - it's completely random, and your odds are the exact same as when you started.

What he said.

 

[Savatage79]

Because it's not "doing" absolute shit. It's "done" absolute shit. Past tense. If it's a fair slot, it's just as random now as when it started.

If you stay at the same slot, it may keep losing, or it may turn around and win.

If you move to a new slot, you may keep losing, or you may turn it around and win.

The difference is only psychological. If moving to a new game feels like a psychological reset and makes you happier, by all means go for it. Most of the time, you're not going to get your money back by switching to a new slot (of course you will sometimes). Which is the exact same as if you stayed - you'd usually lose and occasionally get it all back.

If your own perception and experience tells you otherwise, you've simply been tricked by the randomness and variation that's inherent to gambling. We as people aren't good at watching patterns without bias and selective memory, and when you mix that in with the huge variance that can be present with slots - variance which can on rare occasion last for months without returning to normal - it's not surprising if you find that one method appears to work better than another for you. But in reality, switching to another casino has zero influence on your chance if both casinos offer the exact same game.

Some people have the exact opposite perception as you - that if a slot isn't paying, it's "due" to pay it back. But I would tell them the same thing - it's completely random, and your odds are the exact same as when you started.

But everything you said goes without saying. When I move slots, change games or change casinos.. .it may or may not work, I fully 1000% understand this. I don't think anything you're saying is magical gospel rather than your "opinion" on how you would go about it.

Everything you said ended with it may or may not work, it's completely random .. So it doesn't matter if I move to 20 casinos a night or sit at one, the chances are all the same... But that takes me back to my original sentiment then as to why even debate this with someone?

Like you said there are some that'll stay on a dead slot and feel it's due and some that move on, both are viable .. Why then are we having this discussion??