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What do you think about playtech's game ?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by talkmg888, Mar 24, 2011.

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    Mar 24, 2011
  1. talkmg888

    talkmg888 Dormant account

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    I has play playtech's slot games, such as X-MAN, The Incredible Hulk......

    I find is not a fair game, because the games result is not random. I can easy proof this!


    What do you think ?
     
  2. Mar 24, 2011
  3. H1_Roller

    H1_Roller Non-Gambler

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    I would like to see your evidence (proof). :)
     
  4. Mar 24, 2011
  5. talkmg888

    talkmg888 Dormant account

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    Have you play the slot games X-MAN, The Incredible Hulk... too ?
    If play I can proof for you.
     
  6. Mar 24, 2011
  7. Nifty29

    Nifty29 Dormant account

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    OK Einstein.

    Show us what you got.

    :rolleyes:
     
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  9. Gremmyboy

    Gremmyboy Dormant account

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    :eat::eat::eat:
     
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  11. baldidiot

    baldidiot Experienced Member webmeister

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    The suspense is killing us!
     
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  13. Jasminebed

    Jasminebed Closer to 100 than Birth

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    I enjoy those games and would like to see what kind of proof you have. Are you talking about the slot themselves or the Marvel progressive jackpots?
     
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  15. talkmg888

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    They has control the portfolio of images, So is not random !
    Just give you one of this, is enough to proof !

    For example,
    Slot game : The Incredible Hulk
    The image 'smash bonus' show in reel 1 and 5.
    It will be has many portfolio if is random, But only 6 portfolio in the game

    Attachments is the 3 portfolio on the reel 1,
    Top: 'smash bonus' + 'K' + 'J'
    Center: 'A' + 'smash bonus' + 'K'
    Bottom: 'T' + 'A' + 'smash bonus'
    You never find any other portfolio on the reel 1 !!!!! (which have the image 'smash bonus')

    Another 3 portfolio on the reel 5 is
    Top: 'smash bonus' + 'A' + 'Aircraft'
    Center: 'Q' + 'smash bonus' + 'A'
    Bottom: 'Aircraft' + 'Q' + 'smash bonus'
    You never find any other portfolio on the reel 5 too !!!!! (which have the image 'smash bonus')

    I think this is enough to proof !!
    Tye play games you will find more !!
     

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  17. talkmg888

    talkmg888 Dormant account

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    Have you see any two the following images show in the same reel ???


    The image ' smash bonus ' in REEL 1 and 5
    The image ' The Incredible Hulk(Free games image)' in REEL 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5
    The image ' Hulk ( wild ) ' REEL 2 , 3 , 4



    I think never, So random ???
     
  18. Mar 24, 2011
  19. Gremmyboy

    Gremmyboy Dormant account

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    :confused::confused::confused:

    Huh?

    I need a lay down..............



    Cheers
    Gremmy
     
  20. Mar 24, 2011
  21. H1_Roller

    H1_Roller Non-Gambler

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    I appreciate that English isn't your first language (well, I hope not), and I certainly wouldn't be rude to someone for trying to explain something on a forum in a language which is not their mother tongue, but... that makes no sense whatsoever.

    I've played Hulk and X-Men many times and had mixed results, as I have with practically any slot I've played. Plenty of bonus games and free spins on both games.

    Not that any of that matters because, as I've said; I don't have the foggiest notion what it is you are trying to say.

    [edit] - WAIT! Are you saying that the images on the reels are SET? If so, then you'd be right. They usually are. That's the way slot games are.
     
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  23. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Yes - I think that's what they are trying to say...

    So are you saying your "proof" is that there is only 1 bonus symbol on each reel and it always appears in-between the same symbols?
    If so, that is perfectly normal and the way that most random video slots are produced.
    Some reels only have 1 bonus symbol, while others can have 2 or more = normal again.

    Here's some examples of reel layouts on MG slots - all have "Fixed" reel strips:
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    KK
     
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  25. talkmg888

    talkmg888 Dormant account

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    I am so sorry, My english is very bad :)
    My first language is chinese, And no forum talk about online casino at china. Sorry !

    Yes, I mean images on the reels are SET, Not really random !
     
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  27. baldidiot

    baldidiot Experienced Member webmeister

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    The order of the images on the reels aren't random, but this is just the same as a real life slot that uses physical reels. In fact by doing this they are more aunthentic.

    The results are still random though.
     
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  29. H1_Roller

    H1_Roller Non-Gambler

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    That's interesting KK. I didn't realize there would be differing amounts of symbols per reel, depending on the slot.
     
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  31. PlexRep

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    Every time you roll a dice, the number 6 will appear on the opposite side to the number 1. This doesn't mean the dice is loaded or anything underhanded is going on :cool:.

    If you're just saying the symbols appear in the same order, then like other members have pointed out this is quite normal and just like you would find in a 'real life' casino.
     
  32. Mar 25, 2011
  33. BillyBoy

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    Sorry for my bad English, this is not my native language, but I hear that playtech slots may use "adaptive mathematics algoritms"

    For example: they may give 110-115% payouts when play begin.
    When player rise bets, slots return to 95%-97% payouts.
    Average payouts < 100%. This is not are fraud coz slots give players
    very good payouts, but after this kind of play (110%-115%) most of
    players rise his bets and play more agressive.

    I don't know, is this false or true, but i hear about this method.
     
  34. Mar 25, 2011
  35. baldidiot

    baldidiot Experienced Member webmeister

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    If that were true then everybody could just go and play for a short period of time (during the >110% phase) and then leave and the casino.

    With the exception of directly making the player lose, any manipulation of the random odds can be used against the casino.
     
  36. Mar 25, 2011
  37. rainmaker

    rainmaker I'm not a penguin CAG webmeister

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    I see you have an active link in your signature. I read a recent thread where Simmo! removed a link in a signature based on "low level of activity". I don`t know the forum rules about this, but I would believe you may be considered as a "low active user" with 3 posts in 2-3 years. Just a heads up :)
     
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  39. Przecinek

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    Won't repeat what others have said.
    "True reels" feel way better when playing. After some time you can start to feel the frequency of payouts, how often each symbol appears etc, just like with table games.

    When a game is totally random you can't really do that. All those scratchcard slot games have this flaw.
     

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