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Thakid2u,
As far as the 200promo is concerned, that was a promo associated with a deposit that was approved and valid. I am sorry for dropping to your level inferring that you are a cheater. That was in response to you calling us crap. If you remember this thread was because you did not get paid on the day you, you were told you were. I do apologize for that, we were wrong there. You spoke to Danny, and asked when your payment would be sent, since you said everything was approved. Accounting which has the final say on if and when the money leaves the building reviewed the account and detected that the DTS had not been received. They delayed the payment till the form is sent in. Danny had no idea that you had not sent it in. In any organization there are steps to the chain of command, and when it comes to the players Credit Card information, not all links on the chain have that information.

Unicorn,
As Slotchick said I did not want names I wanted the Ids so I could look into their accounts. I have never said that we were never at fault and all the players who had complaints were wrong. In my opinion if someone has a complaint whether valid or not than the casino is wrong, because they did not make something apparent earlier to the player. The one thing I am not, as the Mouthpiece for the casino is someone who says do as I say and not as I do like you are. I show you a quote you just made about me, may be you should reread it and follow your own advice. I seriously doubt that berating and sarcastic comments towards people that are critical of your casino will help improve the image of Virtual in a positive way. Inter change people and casino, than look at yourself in a mirror.
 
lol What's this about...
"I am sorry for dropping to your level inferring that you are a cheater. That was in response to you calling us crap."

Are you to referring to this comment I made...

"So may this be a warning to you all....I guess decide what you want to do...But, I WOULD PUT THIS PLACE ON THE CRAP LIST...."
If so, how professional is that, as you are on a higher level than me (in your own mind), being a owner/manager at a casino.

My level...lol just for your info...I am a first yr resident in the emergency room at one of our local hospitals. In ley terms a Dr. Your attempts at still belittling me are poor and uncalled for in my opinion. If you wish to play that game of name calling and such, why dont you give me a call and NOT WASTE Bryans space, as you would say.

"I am sorry for dropping to your level inferring that you are a cheater."
"I show you a quote you just made about me, may be you should reread it and follow your own advice. I seriously doubt that berating and sarcastic comments towards people that are critical of your casino will help improve the image of Virtual in a positive way. Inter change people and casino, than look at yourself in a mirror."

hmm
 
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i don't want to step on any toes but i would like to state that i never had any serious probs when i played at virtual, even though i prolly won't play there anymore since they labeled me as "skilled" and decreased my wager window to 10-100. thanks for ratting me out ted :p ;)

i have made serveral 4 digit cashins from virtual while using a bonus and i was paid in full every time, sure it took em a coupla weeks and sometimes i need to drop a 'gentle' reminder to the csr, but they always stuck to their words and paid. unlike the recent actions from a supposedly 'reputable' group

the one thing about virtual is that they have many confusing t&c and a lot of players don't read thru or take the time to understand them fully. i personally made sure i read and re-read the t&c each time before i played and doubled-checked to make sure i have complied with each and every item before requesting a cashin. of course this is as much of a fault of the casino as it is of players

i only took one free chip in my lifetime i think to test out the rtg slots, i think the reason why free chips cause the most headaches for the casinos is that THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO UPSIDE from them in casino's perspective. they don't get any financial gains in return if you lose a free chip as opposed to a deposit bonus. that's why they have so many rules and stipulations attached to them. i personally find them a bother and wish the casinos would just do away from them and concentrate on simplifying the terms on their deposit bonuses
 
I understand T/Cs just perfect. It's not my lack of not reading them or anything. Its my fault for having confidence in a place to help keep records to where a player/customer can access them up front. I.E. Having an activity log that doesnt show No deposit coupons used.
 
Since you are so informed, Please list the player or players that had a legitimate cash out not paid to the in the last year and half since I have been there.

I had a legitimate cash out and you messed me around terribly. If I hadn't started a thread on this forum you'd never have paid, and you still haven't answered any of the issues raised in my thread.

Sounds like it's business as usual ted. If you really like lists, get Pam to list how many people she's had to lie to about you being "out of the office" or "in a meeting" in the last year and a half. Or list the people you've given bonuses to in the hope they'd lose their deposits, and if they won refused to pay by referring to some "rule" that isn't printed anywhere.

All you need to know about the man who put the "ted" in "cheated" is here:


https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/virtual-casino-belong-on-rogues-list.7209/?t=7209
 
Hey, are you guys sure that Virtual and Connectto are run by different people? I just found this at P4K, and it sure sounds familiar, a poster doing a complete turnaround all in the same day, really odd.

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I agree about not depositing here. I deposited there several times, and tried to cashout $60.00....no bonuses attached. It was my first time trying to cash out. I sent all the forms and copies, and they had one excuse after another. They didn`t even reply to me until 9 days after my withdrawal request!! I finally told them to keep the money. I will never play there again!!!

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I want to appologize for the above negative post about Virtual. I was foolishly unhappy at the time, and at the spur of the moment lost my self control. I would like to add, although I have not rec`d my payout yet, I spoke to a very nice person in accounting @Virtual that renewed my trust, and I am happy to say that I feel much better after talking with this most kind person, and feel that there is hope, and the reason for them not responding was due to certain circumstances, and that, because I am generally a trusting person, believe to be a good enough reason, that I am now driven to make this appology to you, my fellow board members, and to Virtual. Have a great evening, and happy gambling!!! :)



So I guess this is the new trend in online gaming? Offer to make good on past monies owing, with the stipulation that the poster must provide some glowing commentary on the site? Very bizarre.
 
Pinababy69 said:
Hey Thakid, did you win this $55 on the free $55 chip that Virtual was offering? If so, why isn't that showing in your records there? I'm on your side here, I think you made your share of deposits considering it's Virtual, it's just that I thought I read somewhere it was a free chip you managed to cash out on?

The RTGs I have played have new cashier software which does not list the free chips redeemed (bonus coupons) in the account history. It just lists the actual cash deposits made by a player.
 
Thanks Suzecat. See, I didn't know that. Just shows you how uninformed I am about RTG's. I just really don't play there myself, I am a Micro addict, lol.
 
Thakid2u said:
Disabling a chip if already used would stop some problems, yes there are gonna be people that just keep creating accounts to redeem the coupon again. There will always be those people.

In regards to T/Cs I read them too, and half the time contact support either via phone or live support. According to my cashier log, my last transaction was a deposit. No bonus or anything. If this would have shown that I did infact use coupons then of course things would be different. Also if support would have mentioned this from the get go.

3/28/2005 2:45:25 PM NETeller Withdrawal Approved! ($55.00)
3/24/2005 11:01:04 PM NETeller Withdrawal Requested ($55.00)
1/29/2005 7:17:57 PM Credit Card Deposit Approved! $40.00
1/29/2005 7:17:47 PM Credit Card Deposit Requested $40.00

I didnt really see the point in this comment...
"If he won that 200.00 chip because he bid on it, then he shouldnt of been able to win again, regardless of he is friends with the forum owner ( which is even MORE a reason not to apply that chip!! )"
but then again, Im not to sure how the whole $200 chip thing got started. It was a MATCH. The forum had nothing to do with it. I didnt ask anyone for help, if she did it was on her own act. That is what she does for all. She is the go between for Virtual and the players. Just because you are friends with someone at a board, should you be disqualified from everything? If so, a hell of alot of the people wouldnt get anything as they are friends with the admins and mods. I.E. anyone that is considered friends with Daera (which is alot) then they wouldnt be able to get anything from that board....(Sorry Daera, lol, but your a good example)


Like I said before...lol To me this is over unless it keeps going for some reason. Then I will continue to respond. I made some points and Ted made some points. I told Ted to keep his money or give it to whomever he feels like it. Not all my points were answered, but maybe in time. People can make their own choice on what to do.

If it was a match~~ where is your 200.00 deposit??? Actually if they were matches, there should be TWO 200.00 deposits! I dont see them...are they not there??? Forgive me if I can't see them.
 
They dont just offer 100% matches here. It may have been 500% or something. Trust me, it wasnt a free chip. lol I wish I could get a $200 dollar free chip.....
 
missed apology

Thakid2u,
In my last post I was trying to apologize to you for infering names at you, it was wrong of me, and once again I say sorry for calling you names. It was only in response to your post about us being Crap. And you are right it was inmature of me to respond in that way. Sometimes the heat of a situation gets to me.
My apologies

Ted
 
Actually Amit is out of the country and have not spoken to him. I am still waiting for your reason that you constantly follow these threads that Virtual is on. I have asked you to come up with your own FACTS not baseing it on hearsay, like your buddy does. Who are all of these players we have harmed? You keep saying things but have not shown anything worthwhile. At this point you are losing respect everytime you attack and do not make facts. You remind me of "Chicken little" running around telling everybody that casinos are out to cheat you, or that there is always an alternative motive to everything a casino does. So what is your motive?
 
Ted... CAUGHT!!

Here's Ted being apprehended after another 'unhappy' player found him...

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keep proving your point

Unicorn,
Keep proving my point, that you have nothing constructive to share on the industry or the forums. I will fight to my dieing day to defend your first amendments rights to free speech, but it does become monotonous at times.
 
virtualted:
Actually Amit is out of the country and have not spoken to him.
Amit is probably with Sting...
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I am still waiting for your reason that you constantly follow these threads that Virtual is on. I have asked you to come up with your own FACTS not baseing it on hearsay, like your buddy does.
I guess Teddy Boy means me.
I can't answer for Uni... but as for myself...
I follow these threads to keep The Virtual Group and it's clones out there so players KNOW to STAY AWAY!!!
 
funeralparty said:
The only thing this thread has proven so far:

Now that Cipher is gone, lanidar is the most arrogant poster on this board

IMO

You are absolutely correct. :thumbsup:
AND... I want you to know that it took a lot of work to be the way I am. :D
So, I humbly accept that as a compliment. :oops:
Thank You ... :notworthy


P.S. Funeralparty... here's the link to Insom. Come on over and we can REALLY have a go at it. :D
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Why does VirtualTed even come here? He comes and gets the snot kicked out of him by people 99% of the time. Meanwhile, people we REALLY want to talk to like Casino Action, Integriy Group, Casino Rewards, etc. don't come anywhere near this forum. I give Ted or whatever his name is kudos for showing up and taking abuse all the time(I have yet to play with their casino, so I can't say anything in that regard). But I get the feeling more and more people here just look for a reason to bitch than anything else...........
 
Crap.........you REALLY want me to register over there, don't you John?

....maybe if you can talk Cipher into a free copy of his "award winning bj system" :cheers:
 
Hi all,

Funeral, I must agree with you about the acidic person whose posts look like pasted ransom notes. If he puts his feet in his mouth any more, hes liable to get oral athletes foot. Sounds stinky dont it? The king has bad breath

Daytimer and pen for him? Nah, scrapbook and crayons are more like it.

I went lurking into his dive after my push became his shove in a forum thread here (Meister locked it). I couldnt believe the filthy language. Perhaps a coincidence (doubtful), but after inspecting his dive and one of his lady fans kingdom, the one that promotes G-Fed on her front page I ended up with a Spyware, an Adware, a Trojan and a worm in my investigation. Good thing I wear a raincoat. Be aware.

Yet another thread derailing The Meister is either amused or hes going to be fed up soon

Either way, we are in his living room, his turf, I accept this and any decision he takes.

Btw, I have had in the past personal contacts with Bruce (Cipher), and he is a good person. You just have to speak person-to-person with him to know it. I consider him as a friend. His conflicts are his and mine are mine. His system is his and mine is mine. We all have some temper, at times. Im sure that Bryan is a good person too, but we never had direct contact.

Also, Funeral Cipher gives out his Cipher strand system for free. Check it out, if interested.

And Ted, I did go back to virtual for a few stints (small stuff, no bonus), because you committed yourself here, and I wasnt screwed around. N.B. This is not an endorsement of any sort.

Cest la vie,

Regards,

Thatch
 
i concur, cipher is a very good person at heart, even though at times his tone can come across as overly-aggressive

v-ted and virtual seem to be condemned with every little road bump that hits the board, yet i have not seen any major probs with virtual recently. seems everyone should be concentrating their critcisms on ICL and CR who are attempting to steal thousands of players' winnings
 
Thatchatch said:
...Yet another thread derailing The Meister is either amused or hes going to be fed up soon
Sometimes it takes me a few days to get to these threads, this has seriously derailed so further bashings are unwelcome.

Like it or not, VTed is a member of this board and has every right as anyone else here not to have the snot kicked out of hime every time he posts. I'm still not convinced that he's a member of the lowiest lowlife scumbucket casino group that some of you project. In most instances, casinos create their own problems with way too many bonus types or amounts - there will always be bonus issues with casinos like these. At least in this case, you have someone who is answerable to these problems and is able to work them out.

Open communication = solutions to player problems. Let's keep it that way.
 

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